Why soccer will never be big in the USA....... (2 Viewers)

[Zigg]

Alright, now feck you again!

Why does soccer bother you so     ?!...watch tennis, & leave us nerds alone.

Soccer and tennis are probably my two favourite sports right now.  Stupid Olympics are getting in the way of my tennis. 

ANOTHER GAME FOR MILOS!!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtZ5aBx2bCk

 

[Kafka]

Soccer and tennis are probably my two favourite sports right now.  Stupid Olympics are getting in the way of my tennis. 

ANOTHER GAME FOR MILOS!!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtZ5aBx2bCk

Again, I apologize for being so "defensive", I'm part Italian, it's my nature... ForzaTennis??

 

[bentley]

Make the net bigger for normal play and smaller for penalty kicks.  

Dynamic goal sizing would be even better. As teams build a lead, their goal could shrink while the losing team's goal gets bigger. Would encourage more scoring and ensure that games were always close.

 

[Kafka]

Dynamic goal sizing would be even better. As teams build a lead, their goal could shrink while the losing team's goal gets bigger. Would encourage more scoring and ensure that games were always close.

#no sarcasm 

 

[CGRdrJoe]

You might be worse than me...

Now imagine that I'd actually had a drink today

 

[Kafka]

Now imagine that I'd actually had a drink today

today=west coast, Sissy?

....pass that bag,when finished ...

 

[CGRdrJoe]

today=west coast, Sissy?

....pass that bag,when finished ...

 at the edit comment

 

[Kafka]

 at the edit comment

It's not funny, man !

 

[Kafka]

 at the edit comment

You are Sebowski ...

I miss you both...

 

[Kafka]

When I first "joined" this thread, there was one who always supported my anti-cracker/Anglo takes.... plus , I think we're tight with limited Linoleum .....MFkgn Bolivians!

Sebowski

 

[Sebowski]

Again, I apologize for being so "defensive", I'm part Italian, it's my nature... ForzaTennis??

Is that an Italicized emoticon? Whoa. More like Italianized emoticon, emirate? 

 

[Sebowski]

When I first "joined" this thread, there was one who always supported my anti-cracker/Anglo takes.... plus , I think we're tight with limited Linoleum .....MFkgn Bolivians!

Sebowski

I call stage right!

 

[Kafka]

Is that an Italicized emoticon? Whoa. More like Italianized emoticon, emirate? 

Let's leave Arsenal's stadium out of this...

 

[Sinn Fein]

A list of games available on TV in the US this weekend, for those that are interested:

Home team listed first.

FRIDAY, August 19

BeIN SPORTS
Ligue 1

LYON-CAEN (live) 2:40 pm.

BIG TEN NETWORK

Women's College
PENN STATE-WEST VIRGINIA (live), 7:30 p.m.

MSNBC

Women's Bronze-Medal Match
CANADA-BRAZIL (live) Noon.

NBCSN

Women's Gold-Medal Match

SWEDEN-GERMANY (live) 4:30 pm.

OLYMPIC SOCCER CHANNEL

Women's Bronze-Medal Match

BRAZIL-CANADA (live) Noon.

Women's Gold-Medal Match

SWEDEN-GERMANY (live) 4:30 pm.

USA

Premier League

MANCHESTER UNITED-SOUTHAMPTON (live) 3 pm.

AZTECA AMERICA
Liga MX

VERACRUZ-TOLUCA (live) 10 pm.

BeIN SPORTS en Espanol
La Liga

MALAGA-OSASUNA (live) 2:40 pm.

DEPORTIVO-EIBAR (live) 4:40 pm.

ESPN DEPORTES
German Cup

CARL ZEISS JENA-BAYERN MUNICH (live) 2:30 pm.

GOLTV
Ascenso MX

VENADOS-DORADOS (live) 9:30 pm.

UNIMAS
Major League Soccer

SAN JOSE-HOUSTON (live) 11 pm.

ESPN3.com

Women’s College

BAYLOR-DETROIT MERCY (live) 3 pm.
MINNESOTA-KANSAS (live) 6 pm.
NORTH GEORGIA-JACKSONVILLE (live) 7 pm.
WESTERN ILLINOIS-INDIANA STATE (live) 7 pm.
AKRON MILWAUKEE (live) 7 pm.
WISCONSIN-ILLINOIS STATE (live) 8 pm.
JACKSON STATE-STEPHEN F. AUSTIN (live) 8 pm.

SATURDAY, August 20

BeIN SPORTS

La Liga

BARCELONA-REAL BETIS (live) Noon.

Serie A

JUVENTUS-FIORENTINA (live) 2:45 pm.

NASL

CAROLINA-INDY ELEVEN (live) 7:30 pm.

CNBC

English Premier League

WATFORD-CHELSEA (live) 10 am.

LEICESTER CITY-ARSENAL (live) 12:30 pm.

ESPN

Major League Soccer

NYC FC-LOS ANGELES (live) 3 pm.

NBCSN

English Premier League

STOKE CITY-MANCHESTER CITY (live) 7:30 am.
BURNLEY-LIVERPOOL (live) 10 am.

Men's Bronze-Medal Match
HONDURAS-NIGERIA (live) Noon.
Men's Gold Medal Match
BRAZIL-GERMANY (live) 4:30 pm.

OLYMPIC SOCCER CHANNEL
Men's Bronze-Medal Match

HONDURAS-NIGERIA (live) Noon.

Men's Gold Medal Match

BRAZIL-GERMANY (live) 4:30 pm.

ONE WORLD SPORTS

North American Soccer League

NY COSMOS-PUERTO RICO (live) 7:30 pm.

AZTECA AMERICA

Liga MX

MONARCAS MORELIA-JAGUARES DE CHIAPAS (live) 8 pm.

BeIN SPORTS en Espanol

La Liga

BARCELONA-REAL BETIS (live) Noon.

GRANADA-VILLARREAL (live) 2:10 pm.

SEVILLA-ESPANYOL (live) 4:10 pm.

ESPN DEPORTES

Copa Mexico

TAPACHULA-JAGUARES (live) 4 am.

Major League Soccer

NYC FC-LOS ANGELES (live) 3 pm.

GALAVISION
Liga MX
LEON-QUERETARO (live) 8 pm.

NECAXA-TIJUANA (live) 10 pm.

GOLTV

Ascenso MX

CAFETALEROS-CORRECAMINOS (live) 8 pm.

Brazil

BOTAFOGO-SPORT (delay) 10 pm.

NASL

MIAMI-RAYO OKC (delay) 11:59 pm.

TELEMUNDO

Men's Bronze-Medal Match

HONDURAS-NIGERIA (live) Noon.
Men's Gold-Medal Match

BRAZIL-GERMANY (live) 4:30 pm.

UNIVISION
Liga MX
TIGRES-PACHUCA (live) 8 pm.

CHIVAS-ATLAS (live) 10 pm.

UNIVISION DEPORTES
Netherlands
ZWOLLE-EINDHOVEN (live) 1:30 pm.

Portugal

PORTO-ESTORIL (delay) 3:45 pm.

Liga MX

CRUZ AZUL-SANTOS (live) 6 pm.

TIGRES-PACHUCA (live) 8 pm.

CHIVAS-ATLAS (live) 10 pm.

ESPN3.com

German Cup

DYNAMO DRESDEN-RB LEIPZIG (live) 9:30 am.

NASL

JACKSONVILLE-MINNESOTA (live) 2:30 pm.

FORT LAUDERDALE-OTTAWA (live) 7 pm.

TAMPA BAY-EDMONTON (live) 7:30 pm.

PUERTO RICO-NY COSMOS (live) 7:30 pm.

RAYO OKC-MIAMI (live) 9 pm.

Men’s College

DUQUESNE-PITTSBURGH (live) 7 pm.

FOXSOCCER2GO.com

Scottish Premiership

ST JOHNSTONE-CELTIC (live) 7:15 am.

MLS DIRECT KICK/MLS LIVE

Major League Soccer

PHILADELPHIA-TORONTO (live) 7 pm.

MONTREAL-CHICAGO (live) 7:30 pm.

NEW ENGLAND-COLUMBUS (live) 7:30 pm.

COLORADO-ORLANDO CITY (live) 9 pm.

REAL SALT LAKE-DALLAS (live) 10 pm.

KANSAS CITY-VANCOUVER (live) 10 pm.

NBC SPORTS LIVE EXTRA
Premier League

TOTTENHAM-CRYSTAL PALACE (live) 10 am.

WEST BROM-EVERTON (live) 10 am.

SWANSEA CITY-HULL CITY (live) 10 am.

SUNDAY, August 21

BeIN SPORTS

Serie A

AC MILAN-TORINO (live) Noon.

La Liga

REAL SOCIEDAD-REAL MADRID (live) 2:10 pm.

ATLETICO MADRID-ALAVES (live) 4:10 pm.

Ligue 1

PSG-METZ (delay) 7:30 pm.

CNBC

English Premier League

WEST HAM-BOURNEMOUTH (live) 11 am.

ESPN

Major League Soccer

D.C UNITED-NY RED BULLS (live) 3 pm.

FOX SPORTS 1

Major League Soccer

SEATTLE-PORTLAND (live) 9:30 pm.

NBCSN

English Premier League

SUNDERLAND-MIDDLESBROUGH (live) 8:30 am.

BeIN SPORTS en Espanol

La Liga

REAL SOCIEDAD-REAL MADRID (live) 2:10 pm.

ATLETICO MADRID-ALAVES (live) 4:10 pm.

Ligue 1

PSG-METZ (delay) 7:30 pm.

ESPN DEPORTES

German Cup

SC HAUENSTEIN-BAYER LEVERKUSEN (live) 9:30 am.

Major League Soccer

D.C UNITED-NY RED BULLS (live) 3 pm.

GOLTV

Brazil

INTERNACIONAL-SAO PAULO (live) 3 pm.

FIGUEIRENSE-CRUZEIRO (live) 5:30 pm.

Venezuela

ZAMORA-ATLETICO (live) 7:30 pm.

Portugal

BENFICA-VITORIA SETUBAL (delay) 9:30 pm.

UNIVISION

Liga MX

PUMAS-MONTERREY (live) 1 pm.

UNIVISION DEPORTES

Liga MX

PUMAS-MONTERREY (live) 1 pm.

PUEBLA-AMERICA (live) 7 pm.

ESPN3.com

German Cup

JAHN REGENSBURG-HERTHA BERLIN (live) 12:30 pm.

Women’s College

NORTHERN ILLINOIS-MILWAUKEE (live) 2 pm.
ALBANY-ST. JOHN'S (live) 7:30 pm.

MARQUETTE-KANSAS (live) 8 pm.

Men’s College

KENTUCKY-NORTHERN KENTUCKY (live) 7 pm.

MONDAY, August 22

BeIN SPORTS

La Liga

CELTA-LEGANES (live) 2 pm.

VALENCIA-LAS PALMAS (live) 4 pm.

BeIN SPORTS en Espanol

La Liga

CELTA-LEGANES (live) 2 pm.

VALENCIA-LAS PALMAS (live) 4 pm.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Doug B is drawing me off topic, but controlling the ball > 50% has absolutely no correlation to winning soccer games.  You don't get a correlation until you're at 65% or so. 

Going to need to re-calibrate.

Liverpool had 81% of possession and 26 shots - but only tested Clarets keeper Tom Heaton with shots from distance.

Thanks, Jurgen!

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Has anyone mentioned ties? Ties really, really suck. At least they use a 3 point system in soccer.

 

[Kafka]

Has anyone mentioned ties? Ties really, really suck. At least they use a 3 point system in soccer.

Especially  the "bow" ones.

 

[Christo]

Has anyone mentioned ties? Ties really, really suck. At least they use a 3 point system in soccer.

Another thing they have wrong in US sports. Nothing wrong with a hard-fought game between two teams of equal caliber ending in a tie.

 

[Steve Tasker]

I realize I'm in the minority but I really don't mind ties.  I'm not really a fan of the NHL shootouts either.

 

[comfortably numb]

Just paid $30/month to get my Portugal soccer and a bunch of other euro channels  

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Another thing they have wrong in US sports. Nothing wrong with a hard-fought game between two teams of equal caliber ending in a tie.

You play to win the game. /Herm

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I realize I'm in the minority but I really don't mind ties.  I'm not really a fan of the NHL shootouts either.

Yeah, the NHL has really ####ed that up. Losers points and shootouts are terrible.

 

[comfortably numb]

Another thing they have wrong in US sports. Nothing wrong with a hard-fought game between two teams of equal caliber ending in a tie.

I hate ties but have grown to accept them in soccer....but will let say for the anti soccer crowd I understand how ties are terrible for a sport.  Not necessarily the end result  being a tie but in that many teams are content with a tie leading to a 1 sided crap show of a match that makes for terrible viewing. 

 

[Zigg]

You play to win the game. /Herm

Then win.  3 on 3 followed by a shootout is not winning.  Overtime sucks.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Then win.  3 on 3 followed by a shootout is not winning.  Overtime sucks.

I agree. The problem with regular season games is they have to end on a fairly tight schedule and we know hockey (and soccer if they let it) can go on for hours. NHL gets it right for playoffs. As least 3v3 is still the same game. Shootouts are just a ####ty skills contest. 

 

[Hawks64]

Yeah, the NHL has really ####ed that up. Losers points and shootouts are terrible.

4v4 and 3v3 are awesome. Shootouts suck balls.

 

[eoMMan]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/world-cup-ratings-complete-nightmare-110758269.html

 

[comfortably numb]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/world-cup-ratings-complete-nightmare-110758269.html

Its hard to look at these ratings lists and compare numbers with so many people ditching cable year to year.

 

[Apple Jack]

The games are in the middle of the work day and I have to assume that a lot of people are watching on their computers.

 

[Arizona Ron]

I don't feel the hype that I felt 4 years ago.  I can only speak for my direct friends/co-workers/neighborhood but no one seems to give a crap about it.

I'm out at the bars and the only people I see caring about the games are the kitchen staff. 

 

[comfortably numb]

I don't feel the hype that I felt 4 years ago.  I can only speak for my direct friends/co-workers/neighborhood but no one seems to give a crap about it.

I'm out at the bars and the only people I see caring about the games are the kitchen staff. 

Never thought I'd say this but...you need new friends 

 

[El Floppo]

I don't feel the hype that I felt 4 years ago.  I can only speak for my direct friends/co-workers/neighborhood but no one seems to give a crap about it.

I'm out at the bars and the only people I see caring about the games are the kitchen staff. 

Was wondering about this, with the US not being in it, would the casual/non soccer fan be interested the way they have been (and growing) over last several WCs. The bars in my NYC hood were packed yesterday with people watching...but no idea about during the week. They showed Portugal v Spain in Times Square, but don't know how well it was attended.

 

[eoMMan]

Its hard to look at these ratings lists and compare numbers with so many people ditching cable year to year.

From that article:

"Since the 2014 World Cup, Nielsen has adjusted its methodology to account for streaming viewers, an attempt to better capture the entire audience as digital and mobile options become more popular."

 

[The Z Machine]

I don't feel the hype that I felt 4 years ago.  I can only speak for my direct friends/co-workers/neighborhood but no one seems to give a crap about it.

I'm out at the bars and the only people I see caring about the games are the kitchen staff. 

You're hanging out with the wrong people.

 

[Jobber]

The only reason I can watch these games is because I’m a telecommuter. Otherwise, I’d have to catch recaps in the evenings. 

 

[comfortably numb]

From that article:

"Since the 2014 World Cup, Nielsen has adjusted its methodology to account for streaming viewers, an attempt to better capture the entire audience as digital and mobile options become more popular."

Ah.

I missed that. 

 

[DaVinci]

The only reason I can watch these games is because I’m a telecommuter. Otherwise, I’d have to catch recaps in the evenings. 

I’ve been watching them in the evenings on YouTube TV. Just have to avoid the scores during the day.

 

[Hov34]

Here's a reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbVJ-31JSrA

NSFW Language

 

[Sinn Fein]

Here's a reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbVJ-31JSrA

NSFW Language

Probably not a valid reason

Apparently American sports fan love this

 

[Hov34]

Ok, a more real reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PNqVilJESg&t=3s

 

[EYLive]

Still don't care about this sport.

 

[Christo]

Still don't care about this sport.

Congratulations?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Still don't care about this sport.

Keep us updated! 

 

[Steve Tasker]

I’ve been watching them in the evenings on YouTube TV. Just have to avoid the scores during the day.

I've been DVRing the games and watching at night.  Pick the 2 best games of the day and watch them after work.  No halftimes or delays, it's not bad at all.  The hardest part is avoiding Twitter spoilers and score updates if I'm listening to sports talk when driving.

 

[Christo]

I've been DVRing the games and watching at night.  Pick the 2 best games of the day and watch them after work.  No halftimes or delays, it's not bad at all.

Exactly what I've been doing.

 

[AAABatteries]

One thing I always notice and maybe I’m off base with this but it seems like the WC and soccer in general is much bigger with women outside the US.  Maybe it’s a generational thing but my wife has zero interest in the WC but she’ll watch the Olympics even though she doesn’t follow any of those sports.  The stadium and live shots from other countries always have a lot of women. 

 

[NewlyRetired]

Germany & Mexico Wins Shatter World Cup Ratings Records For Fox

 

[shadyridr]

The whole clock thing annoys me. As a spectator I should know how much time is left in the game. 

 

[E Street Brat]

. Somebody explain this offsides to me. Where's the Blue Line? Do they actually penalize a team for being quicker?

 

[TripItUp]

Soccer has been steadily gaining momentum in this country for decades with no signs of slowing down...MLS continues to gain popularity and fans, not to mention soccer is increasingly becoming the most popular youth sport.

You old farts will go to your graves missing the boat...and nobody will care.  Time to go tend to your lawn.