Ray Finkle
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Just wondering what everyone thinks will be the lowest scoring teams this year? The first ones that come to mind are the Browns, Bucs, and Raiders.
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Black
Footballguy
I am not that low on the Raiders. Bucs are a mystery because of the QB situation. Browns didn't get that much better. I don't like the Bills (the O-line is horrible) or STL (injury bug is already here...).
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Footballguy
The Raiders should at least have a running game. I put STL toward the bottom. Their offensive personnel are dreck except for SJax and the injured Avery. SJax won't be able to do a whole lot by himself.
Nemesis Enforcer
Footballguy
The Browns
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
St. Louis is my bet for #32.
Cleveland started Ken Dorsey in most of those games they didn't score a TD in last year, so I don't think they'll be quite as bad this year.
Cleveland started Ken Dorsey in most of those games they didn't score a TD in last year, so I don't think they'll be quite as bad this year.
No to both. No matter how bad Orton is, Clady/Hamilton/Weigmann/Kuper/Harris/Graham/Scheffler/Royal/Moreno/(Marshall?) is far too good of a core for the Broncos to be a bottom-scoring offense. Besides, that terrible defense means they'll be in a lot of shootouts.The Ravens had the 11th best scoring offense last season, and look objectively better this year with the maturation of Flacco and Rice alone.Redskins are also probably a bit of a stretch. Their defense should give their offense plenty of short fields, and Campbell/Portis/Santana Moss might not be the sexiest set of "triplets", but it'll be enough to keep them out of the basement.
Not as bad as "no offensive TDs for six consecutive weeks" can still be pretty darn bad.
Lord Fantasy
Footballguy
Per Dodds, in his excellent "Eliminating the Suck" post, here are the bottom ten:
Cleveland Browns
Oakland Raiders
Detroit Lions
Baltimore Ravens
St. Louis Rams
Tennessee Titans
New York Jets
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Kansas City Chiefs
Washington Redskins
I disagree with Titans and Ravens, but only because of their run game.
Also, what do these ten offenses have in common? Trouble (or at least uncertainty) at QB.
Cleveland Browns
Oakland Raiders
Detroit Lions
Baltimore Ravens
St. Louis Rams
Tennessee Titans
New York Jets
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Kansas City Chiefs
Washington Redskins
I disagree with Titans and Ravens, but only because of their run game.
Also, what do these ten offenses have in common? Trouble (or at least uncertainty) at QB.
puckalicious
Footballguy
Only 1 mention of the Lions... maybe I should be optimistic this season after all!
MAC_32
Footballguy
Wrong...we started Bruce Gradkowski too.PlasmaDogPlasma said:
While the TD-less streak is embarrassing who was under center cannot be ignored. The offense shouldn't be great, but I think it will be average. Whether the team is competitive or not depends on the development of the defense.I think the lowest scoring offenses usually come via a combo of bad defense and bad offense. I'm looking at Kansas City, Oakland, Detroit, Tampa, and St Louis right now. Washington could be a dark horse...and of course those teams that get attacked by the injury bug early. For example, teams that have to resort to starting QB's like Ken Dorsey and Bruce Gradkowski.
Tigerbot Hesh
Footballguy
I'd put money on the Rams being at the very bottom. The Browns will be bad, but they also have a lot of young guys that need to see the field. I could see a lot of the Browns' games turning into glorified scrimmages in the fourth quarter and their young guys scoring some garbage-time TDs late.
evilempire
Footballguy
Top (or is that bottom) five candidates :
Buffalo
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
Denver
Washington
Buffalo
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
Denver
Washington
CiscoKid
Footballguy
I don't think the Raiders are going to be that bad on offense either. I do have to agree with the Bucs, Browns and Rams. While I'm concerned about the Bills "O" line, I think the no huddle will mitigate some of the issues that they have there so long as Edwards remains healthy. I could see the "O" line problems creating an impact in Seattle, but I can't see them slipping as far as those 1st 3 teams.
Ray Finkle
Footballguy
Bottom 10:
Rams 11.2
Raiders 11.9
Browns 12.2
Bucs 14.6
Chiefs 15.8
Lions 16.1
Bills 16.5
Panthers 17.3
Redskins 18.0
Jaguars 18.1
Rams 11.2
Raiders 11.9
Browns 12.2
Bucs 14.6
Chiefs 15.8
Lions 16.1
Bills 16.5
Panthers 17.3
Redskins 18.0
Jaguars 18.1
Ray Finkle
Footballguy
Thoughts for this season? Rams, Browns, and Bills appear ready to show up in the bottom 10 again.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
Rams, Browns, Bills for sure.
Maybe the Cardinals depending on Leinart.
I like the Lions and 49ers to be decent (if not very decent) on offense this year.
Maybe the Cardinals depending on Leinart.
I like the Lions and 49ers to be decent (if not very decent) on offense this year.
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Footballguy
Cleveland and Buffalo stand out. It is not necessarily a bad strategy to avoid EVERYONE from those teams.
St. Louis will again have some problems, but may not be quite as bad as Cleveland and Buffalo if Bradford develops quickly. And they still have SJax.
St. Louis will again have some problems, but may not be quite as bad as Cleveland and Buffalo if Bradford develops quickly. And they still have SJax.
Not a bad list here, although I would remove the Ravens and Skins. I think the addition of McNabb and Shanny will make this offense move out of the bottom 10. I also believe Flacco takes another step forward and adding Boldin moves this team up and out of the bottom 10.I would replace the Skins and Ravens with the Bills and the Bucs.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
Just so you know, that list is from 2009.rotohuff said:
texasbirdfan
Footballguy
to me it is any team with a non-prolific offense combined with a defense that can't get the other team off the field.
Last year the Falcons were fortunate to have an above average offense, however the defense caughed up more 3rd downs than anyone.
It is a function of time of possession- how many minutes does your defense give you out of the 60 to score.
Last year the Falcons were fortunate to have an above average offense, however the defense caughed up more 3rd downs than anyone.
It is a function of time of possession- how many minutes does your defense give you out of the 60 to score.
Man, I hate that I read this whole thing only to realize it is a year old. I know I should mouse over the thread title before I open one, but how about we let people know up front???
schooner44
Footballguy
It took all the way until post #17 for someone to mention the Bills...I guess my expectations are lower than most.CRAP...just saw this is a year old. And to think I thought there may be hope for Buffalo yet. Oh well--back to my 3-13 expectations.
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Faust
MVP
The Bills have nowhere to go, but up:
Bills Camp Report
Excerpt:
The more I study this defense, the more impressed I am with it and the players' effort. Last year the Bills gave up just 20.4 points a game and had the second-ranked pass defense (184.2 yards per game). They may have to be even better this year. When you consider the Bills had one of the worst third-down offenses in 20 years and forced the defense to go back on the field after three and-out series constantly, it was not praised enough.
Bills Camp Report
Excerpt:
The more I study this defense, the more impressed I am with it and the players' effort. Last year the Bills gave up just 20.4 points a game and had the second-ranked pass defense (184.2 yards per game). They may have to be even better this year. When you consider the Bills had one of the worst third-down offenses in 20 years and forced the defense to go back on the field after three and-out series constantly, it was not praised enough.
Woogie Lee
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