And if you did he would have 2 points. It is what it is.Jeeeez. I wanted so badly to start him. I did. I followed the gurus and started a bunch of guys rated higher this week. Ugh.
NO he’d still have like 40 points lolAnd if you did he would have 2 points. It is what it is.
Sad. Sad, but true.so he was in my lineup last week. swear to god, he's averaging 3 ppg in the games I've started him this year. I'll start him next week for his 3 for 18
Yep. Looks like the talent evaluators could see the problem wasn't with him...For everyone who was laughing at Dallas for the trade: happy now?
Theyre undefeated since he joined and the offense is just so much more effective even setting aside his solid performances. Kid is a gamer. Great trade for Dallas.
Same boat.so he was in my lineup last week. swear to god, he's averaging 3 ppg in the games I've started him this year. I'll start him next week for his 3 for 18
I never stopped believing in the talent. I think last year was injury and this season Carr never got it going.For everyone who was laughing at Dallas for the trade: happy now?
Theyre undefeated since he joined and the offense is just so much more effective even setting aside his solid performances. Kid is a gamer. Great trade for Dallas.
If they can keep finding ways to get into his hands, Dallas will be a formidable match. Curious to see if they can put up a fight next weekI never stopped believing in the talent. I think last year was injury and this season Carr never got it going.
Cooper is on his way and he could well help Dallas win the division.
As I've stated earlier, Cooper could go on to be in 10 pro bowls and it would still be not as good of a deal as Dallas could have gotten. They could have gotten him for a 2nd.For everyone who was laughing at Dallas for the trade: happy now?
Theyre undefeated since he joined and the offense is just so much more effective even setting aside his solid performances. Kid is a gamer. Great trade for Dallas.
How could you possibly know that? It is possible they could have, but it’s also possible some other team would have (or did) offered a first and then they don’t get him.As I've stated earlier, Cooper could go on to be in 10 pro bowls and it would still be not as good of a deal as Dallas could have gotten. They could have gotten him for a 2nd.
The power of PMA on full display todayI was happy to see him take the high road about the Raiders. Said he didn’t want to prove the Raiders wrong, he just wants to prove the Cowboys right. Good stuff.
I am going off reports. you're right, we may not know of another teamHow could you possibly know that? It is possible they could have, but it’s also possible some other team would have (or did) offered a first and then they don’t get him
I don't get this.As I've stated earlier, Cooper could go on to be in 10 pro bowls and it would still be not as good of a deal as Dallas could have gotten. They could have gotten him for a 2nd.
I use buying a home as an example. You pay 25k over asking price, but the house goes up 75k. is that as big of a win as.you could have had? no.
Dallas gave up an unknown draft pick for him, which at this point is working out excellent for Dallas. They gave up too much at the time of the trade.
As far as fantasy goes, I was always 50/50 on him. I remember in his player spotlight thread being on the pro side but by the time the season started I was in the negative. He can post some big games, obviously, but it remains to be seen if hes a stud or just the 2018 version of Chad Johnson- finish the season in the top 20, but 80% of his points are in 3-4 games, and then rest are 3-35.
anti cowboy fanI don't get this.
There were reports that a couple of teams offered a 2nd. If THEY didn't get him for a 2nd, why are you and other anti Cowboy fans saying Dallas should have gave a 2nd, 3rd or whatever? If Dallas wanted him, then it took a 1st. Period. So the horrible comparisons to giving $100,000 for a $25,000 house and all that nonsense is just that- nonsense. They gave what they had to to, to keep from letting the next bidding homeowners move in. It now looks like they were pretty awesome at better understanding perceived value then the rest of the bidders. The NFC East foes are just gonna have to suck it up and face it.
Jay Glazer reported 6 or 7 teams were interested in Cooper. The Raiders weren't going to hand that kind of talent over for a 2nd round pick, especially at 24 years old. And most certainly not since they had the 5th year option available.As I've stated earlier, Cooper could go on to be in 10 pro bowls and it would still be not as good of a deal as Dallas could have gotten. They could have gotten him for a 2nd.
I use buying a home as an example. You pay 25k over asking price, but the house goes up 75k. is that as big of a win as.you could have had? no.
Dallas gave up an unknown draft pick for him, which at this point is working out excellent for Dallas. They gave up too much at the time of the trade.
As far as fantasy goes, I was always 50/50 on him. I remember in his player spotlight thread being on the pro side but by the time the season started I was in the negative. He can post some big games, obviously, but it remains to be seen if hes a stud or just the 2018 version of Chad Johnson- finish the season in the top 20, but 80% of his points are in 3-4 games, and then rest are 3-35.
I'm guessing you've never bought a house in a sellers market. Asking price is often synonymous with "the bidding starts here" where they likely won't accept the "asking price" anyway. Market value is what it takes to successfully acquire that house at that point in time. You are measuring a "win" against an artificial benchmark.I use buying a home as an example. You pay 25k over asking price, but the house goes up 75k. is that as big of a win as.you could have had? no.
but you said, according to your infamous eye balls, Dak was the best mid round qb in the history of the game?Also, the Cowboys don't have a lot of other needs so Dak could very well be on the chopping block by 2020. A better passer could really take advantage of Cooper's skills.
LOL.but you said, according to your infamous eye balls, Dak was the best mid round qb in the history of the game?
Yeah, he's turned it up a notch since he came to the Cowboys.What I am really impressed by his sense for the first down marker. On the long routes you see he still has top end speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiVdcXeJYj8
And now, I'm regretting this.And now?
And blow up the week after thatAmari Cooper is hot garbage. He went off because he was playing against a hurt Quinton Dunbar. Can't wait for people to start this loser next week and get 3-42.
Raiders fan or just blind?Amari Cooper is hot garbage. He went off because he was playing against a hurt Quinton Dunbar. Can't wait for people to start this loser next week and get 3-42.
He has a point. Hes not wrong in that he had poor coverage. My biggest worry if I were an owner would be if he ends up as this generations version of Chad JohnsonRaiders fan or just blind?
Cooper owners should be praying for that.He has a point. Hes not wrong in that he had poor coverage. My biggest worry if I were an owner would be if he ends up as this generations version of Chad Johnson
praying he scores 80% of his points in 20% of his games?Cooper owners should be praying for that.
A HOF nomination, 6x Pro-Bowl selections, 2x All-Pro teams, 11,000 yards. Rational Cooper owners would happily signup for that.praying he scores 80% of his points in 20% of his games?
Chad Johnson was a better NFL wr than he was in fantasy. he would finish in the top 15-20 but when you looked at his game log you held your nose. He was the biggest fools gold there was in my fantasy career.A HOF nomination, 6x Pro-Bowl selections, 2x All-Pro teams, 11,000 yards. Rational Cooper owners would happily signup for that.
If you venture into the Raiders thread, you would know that most Raider fans are still big fans of Cooper. Cooper is not an elite talent but he is real good. Huge weeks mixed in with disappearing acts has been very common for himRaiders fan or just blind?
Chad Johnson was a boom/bust WR, like many (most-?) WRs. You plugged him in each week and took the down games to get the huge games. Despite that, discounting his rookie year & last year with NE, he put up 10+ FF pts (non-ppr) 39% of the time.Chad Johnson was a better NFL wr than he was in fantasy. he would finish in the top 15-20 but when you looked at his game log you held your nose. He was the biggest fools gold there was in my fantasy career.
If that's what you want, best of luck to you
So if Cooper becomes a WR3/flex it's a good outcome. I can agree with that.Chad Johnson was a boom/bust WR, like many (most-?) WRs. You plugged him in each week and took the down games to get the huge games. Despite that, discounting his rookie year & last year with NE, he put up 10+ FF pts (non-ppr) 39% of the time.
He wasn’t the consistent game to game stud like Rice, Calvin, or AB, but he was a fine FF WR. If Cooper becomes that, that would be a good outcome, IMO.
I think we are looking for different things. I couldn't care less about his fantasy production. I’m estatic he’s a Cowboy. He run good routs, he can actually catch, has break away speed and isn’t a diva. Could not be happier.If you venture into the Raiders thread, you would know that most Raider fans are still big fans of Cooper. Cooper is not an elite talent but he is real good. Huge weeks mixed in with disappearing acts has been very common for him
I think he is likely a WR2 in fantasy but as you say if the Cowboys upgrade at QB then he could vault to a WR1. The thing is that the team is designed as Ezekiel's team first and a passing team second so that creates a cap.It's important to distinguish between Cooper's NFL value & his FF value. It's much easier to see what he means to the Cowboys, but FF-wise, the question is will he be a WR1, WR2, or WR3?
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on this season as far as FF. It's very difficult for a WR to get fully integrated mid-season. All the play installation work is done for the most part so he's just winging it.
Cooper's raw ability, alone, should make him a WR2. A QB upgrade could easily vault him to WR1 status & he may get there, anyway (long-term).
Sure, if you consider a WR who was top-12 weekly WR 39 times during his time in Cincy a WR3/flex, I guess.So if Cooper becomes a WR3/flex it's a good outcome. I can agree with that.