WR Brandon Aiyuk, SF (4 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Brandon Ayuk weighs in on Tom Pelisarro’s tweets:

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[sm8680]

HSG did we make your 3 page prediction?

 

[Wingnut]

As soon as he signs with the 49ers, all the SF fans are going to be in here saying how much better he is than Amari Cooper now lol

Were there 49er fans in here saying Cooper is better?

All I saw was a few 49er fans saying Cooper wouldn't be a huge downgrade from Aiyuk and if SF got him in a trade they wouldn't hate it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

HSG did we make your 3 page prediction?

Close!


Hopefully pretty ricky will tweet again, cuz I took the over.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

All I saw was a few 49er fans saying Cooper wouldn't be a huge downgrade from Aiyuk and if SF got him in a trade they wouldn't hate it.

I believe I suggested a case could be made based on Cooper having 1000+ yards in 4 of the last 5 seasons.

But the point was they wouldn’t miss a beat.

In the long-term obviously locking up Brandon Ayuk would be for the best due to age.

 

[Dez]

Via Matt Maiocco, Aiyuk put the kibosh on a deal that would have sent Aiyuk to the Browns for receiver Amari Cooper, a second-round pick, and a fifth-round pick.

 

[FarFromHome]

Via Matt Maiocco, Aiyuk put the kibosh on a deal that would have sent Aiyuk to the Browns for receiver Amari Cooper, a second-round pick, and a fifth-round pick.

In my opinion he did the Niners (meant to say browns) a big favor.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Via Matt Maiocco, Aiyuk put the kibosh on a deal that would have sent Aiyuk to the Browns for receiver Amari Cooper, a second-round pick, and a fifth-round pick.

In my opinion he did the Niners a big favor.

I woulda loved it as a Cooper shareholder who’s also a 49er fan.

 

[scothawk]

Via Matt Maiocco, Aiyuk put the kibosh on a deal that would have sent Aiyuk to the Browns for receiver Amari Cooper, a second-round pick, and a fifth-round pick.

In my opinion he did the Niners a big favor.

Also did the Browns a massive favor

 

[FarFromHome]

Via Matt Maiocco, Aiyuk put the kibosh on a deal that would have sent Aiyuk to the Browns for receiver Amari Cooper, a second-round pick, and a fifth-round pick.

In my opinion he did the Niners a big favor.

Also did the Browns a massive favor

I completely typed that wrong. He did the BROWNS a huge favor. My bad. I think after all the drama if the Niners could have landed that deal they would have been thrilled.

 

[Wingnut]

The drama continues.

Tom Pelissero says Steelers still in play.

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The 49ers are asking for a 2025 2nd and a 3rd round pick from the Steelers for Brandon Aiyuk, per @MaioccoNBCS

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[Long Ball Larry]

Via Matt Maiocco, Aiyuk put the kibosh on a deal that would have sent Aiyuk to the Browns for receiver Amari Cooper, a second-round pick, and a fifth-round pick.

What does this even mean? I guess that he was unwilling to sign a long term deal with Cleveland?

 

[menobrown]

Don't know structure but Dianna Russini is reporting that NE offered him $32.5M a year and worked out the trade with SF which was already reported.

Multiple thoughts on that if true but my main one as a Steeler's fan is nervousness. I want no part of that deal.

Those kind of numbers are meaningless without the details. Agents throw in bogus last year numbers to prop up the average.

Right, that's why I said I don't know the structure but I'm pretty sure it was a stout offer.

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[menobrown]

Via Matt Maiocco, Aiyuk put the kibosh on a deal that would have sent Aiyuk to the Browns for receiver Amari Cooper, a second-round pick, and a fifth-round pick.

What does this even mean? I guess that he was unwilling to sign a long term deal with Cleveland?

Yes

 

[menobrown]

The drama continues.

Tom Pelissero says Steelers still in play.

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The 49ers are asking for a 2025 2nd and a 3rd round pick from the Steelers for Brandon Aiyuk, per @MaioccoNBCS

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Please for the love of god SF, give him what he wants.

 

[3nOut]

I don’t get it. Am I missing something? If Aiyuk had no intention of going to Cleveland, why did he let his agent and SF take it this far?

 

[osubuckeyeman]

It seems like BA wants to stay in SF. Is he using the other teams as leverage? Declining trades, hoping SF sees his value based on other teams' willingness to pay him?

Seems confusing that 3 teams have been in and then out and maybe back in again without a deal.

 

[Lansdowne]

I don’t get it. Am I missing something? If Aiyuk had no intention of going to Cleveland, why did he let his agent and SF take it this far?

My guess is it’s still in Aiyuk’s best interest to get as much guaranteed money as possible, and having the Browns involved could force the Steelers to up their contract offer to Aiyuk.

 

[thecatch]

The drama continues.

Tom Pelissero says Steelers still in play.

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The 49ers are asking for a 2025 2nd and a 3rd round pick from the Steelers for Brandon Aiyuk, per @MaioccoNBCS

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Please for the love of god SF, give him what he wants.

The Athletic reported the Steelers are offering him less $$ than the Niners, so he must really love Tomlin.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Athletic reported the Steelers are offering him less $$ than the Niners, so he must really love Tomlin.

Or he’s using the Steelers as leverage to stay in SF.

 

[Jail]

The drama continues.

Tom Pelissero says Steelers still in play.

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The 49ers are asking for a 2025 2nd and a 3rd round pick from the Steelers for Brandon Aiyuk, per @MaioccoNBCS

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That doesn't sound like a lot. If true, SF might be leaking this stuff as it's kinda doing 2 things at once. It makes him look like theunreasonableone. And maybe it generates more interested teams. If they are asking for 2nd and 3rd 2025...maybe they'd take 2025 and 2026 2nds. He is definitely worth that.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

The drama continues.

Tom Pelissero says Steelers still in play.

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The 49ers are asking for a 2025 2nd and a 3rd round pick from the Steelers for Brandon Aiyuk, per @MaioccoNBCS

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That doesn't sound like a lot. If true, SF might be leaking this stuff as it's kinda doing 2 things at once. It makes him look like theunreasonableone. And maybe it generates more interested teams. If they are asking for 2nd and 3rd 2025...maybe they'd take 2025 and 2026 2nds. He is definitely worth that.

Seems like the Niners aren’t sure what they want to do here

 

[thecatch]

The Athletic reported the Steelers are offering him less $$ than the Niners, so he must really love Tomlin.

Or he’s using the Steelers as leverage to stay in SF.

Maybe but if they aren't offering as much money, it's not ideal leverage.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

maybe they'd take 2025 and 2026 2nds. He is definitely worth that.

He’s definitely worth more than that. And in the context of their roster especially.

Why would SF possibly take that? 2x 2nds doesn’t replace their WR.

If the 49ers settle for 2x 2nds for Aiyuk I’m gonna be livid.

 

[Soulfly3]

Cooper + 2nd + 5th ????

Thank you, Brandon. Thank you.

 

[crushedspirit]

Wouldn't surprise me that the Steeler offer is the lowest of them all for both contract and trade compensation.

 

[Wingnut]

If the 49ers settle for 2x 2nds for Aiyuk I’m gonna be livid

The report said the deal included 2 draft picks, meaning in addition to a starting player.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Cooper + 2nd + 5th ????

Thank you, Brandon. Thank you.

That actually does sound like a dynasty trade.

 

[Joe Bryant]

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My guy Rickey is going to be fun with this one.

Ian Rapoport

@RapSheet

Update on Brandon Aiyuk:-- The Steelers and #49ers have a deal on a potential trade and PIT is in a good place on an Aiyuk contract, sources say. If SF gives the final sign-off, it's done.-- SF has an offer out to Aiyuk on a long-term deal for him to stay. He hasn't accepted.

 

[Terpman22]

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My guy Rickey is going to be fun with this one.

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

Update on Brandon Aiyuk:-- The Steelers and #49ers have a deal on a potential trade and PIT is in a good place on an Aiyuk contract, sources say. If SF gives the final sign-off, it's done.-- SF has an offer out to Aiyuk on a long-term deal for him to stay. He hasn't accepted.

I just want to see Aiyuk get what he deserves really. I hope it works out for him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

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My guy Rickey is going to be fun with this one.

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

Update on Brandon Aiyuk:-- The Steelers and #49ers have a deal on a potential trade and PIT is in a good place on an Aiyuk contract, sources say. If SF gives the final sign-off, it's done.-- SF has an offer out to Aiyuk on a long-term deal for him to stay. He hasn't accepted.

You should bring Ricky’s credibility on to the FBG staff.

Really hype him up & boost FBG’s profile by making him a featured dude.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If Aiyuk does go to the Steelers with either Russ or Fields as his QB, I could see him taking a hit to his stats. Makes me not regret trading him away last year quite as much as if he’d gone to a more potent pass 1st offense.

But as a Niners fan I’d be very disappointed they couldn’t get it done.

 

[Joe Bryant]

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My guy Rickey is going to be fun with this one.

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

Update on Brandon Aiyuk:-- The Steelers and #49ers have a deal on a potential trade and PIT is in a good place on an Aiyuk contract, sources say. If SF gives the final sign-off, it's done.-- SF has an offer out to Aiyuk on a long-term deal for him to stay. He hasn't accepted.

You should bring Ricky’s credibility on to the FBG staff.

Really hype him up & boost FBG’s profile by making him a featured dude.

LOL. That would be awesome but I'm sure I can't afford him.

There are tons of theories on who he actually is. He was getting draft selections before they were in this year. It's wild.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

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My guy Rickey is going to be fun with this one.

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

Update on Brandon Aiyuk:-- The Steelers and #49ers have a deal on a potential trade and PIT is in a good place on an Aiyuk contract, sources say. If SF gives the final sign-off, it's done.-- SF has an offer out to Aiyuk on a long-term deal for him to stay. He hasn't accepted.

You should bring Ricky’s credibility on to the FBG staff.

Really hype him up & boost FBG’s profile by making him a featured dude.

LOL. That would be awesome but I'm sure I can't afford him.

There are tons of theories on who he actually is. He was getting draft selections before they were in this year. It's wild.

Color me skeptical, still.

That whole “make 100 predictions & delete the 99 incorrect ones” doesn’t sit well with me.

I’m also a little skeptical that the PIT deal is happening. With Pearsall hurt, that would leave the Niners pretty thin at WR, and I don’t believe Robbie Chosen moves the needle, though he was hilarious in Scary Movie.

 

[Lansdowne]

The question is, does Wilson/Fields diminish Aiyuk, or does Aiyuk elevate Wilson/Fields?

 

[Deamon]

The question is, does Wilson/Fields diminish Aiyuk, or does Aiyuk elevate Wilson/Fields?

Both.

 

[jabarony]

The question is, does Wilson/Fields diminish Aiyuk, or does Aiyuk elevate Wilson/Fields?

The former.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The question is, does Wilson/Fields diminish Aiyuk, or does Aiyuk elevate Wilson/Fields?

The 1st part.

 

[travdogg]

Color me skeptical, still.

That whole “make 100 predictions & delete the 99 incorrect ones” doesn’t sit well with me.

I’m also a little skeptical that the PIT deal is happening. With Pearsall hurt, that would leave the Niners pretty thin at WR, and I don’t believe Robbie Chosen moves the needle, though he was hilarious in Scary Movie.

I think they could weather the storm at WR. Deebo is capable of more targets, perhaps so is Jennings. They seem to like Bell, and maybe Gray becomes something, at least as a clearout guy.

I will say, one of the great tragedies of our numbers obsessed era when it comes to HOF cases has been George Kittle. I'd argue he's been better than Kelce this whole time, he just hasn't been targeted at the same level. If Aiyuk goes, maybe we get the 140 target Kittle that we've missed out on.

The question is, does Wilson/Fields diminish Aiyuk, or does Aiyuk elevate Wilson/Fields?

I'd bet on Aiyuk helping to elevate, but not being his 2023 self fantasy wise.

Most would agree that Aiyuk is better than DJ Moore, who just went for 96-1364-8 with mostly Fields at QB.

Everyone would argue Aiyuk is better than Sutton, who just 10 TDs with Wilson.

I'm of the impression that its Fields job to lose in Pittsburgh, and that Wilson needs to clearly outplay him in camp/preseason to win the job.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

NFL Rumors is saying Niners want Minka Fitz back so that’s probably why this is taking so long. Steelers are trying to stop laughing long enough to reject the proposal.

I sense this isn’t as close as we’re being led to believe, but then Rappaport has a long history of being wrong as well. Everyone reporting is just parroting him at this point.

on the upside, I believe I just hit my O/U on +3 more pages. Good work everyone! Easy money.

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[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think they could weather the storm at WR. Deebo is capable of more targets, perhaps so is Jennings. They seem to like Bell, and maybe Gray becomes something, at least as a clearout guy.

Jennings isn't the best route runner. Reportedly one reason they drafted Pearsall is that they needed a 2nd crisp route runner so that Shanny's misdirection would be more effective to open things up for Deebo & CMC out the backfield.

If Aiyuk leaves, that puts the 49ers back into the position of needing a 2nd crisp route runner, AND depending on a rookie to be that guy.

I will say, one of the great tragedies of our numbers obsessed era when it comes to HOF cases has been George Kittle. I'd argue he's been better than Kelce this whole time, he just hasn't been targeted at the same level. If Aiyuk goes, maybe we get the 140 target Kittle that we've missed out on.

Totally agree about Kittle, and he becomes significantly more compelling if Aiyuk is gone.

I'd bet on Aiyuk helping to elevate, but not being his 2023 self fantasy wise.

Most would agree that Aiyuk is better than DJ Moore, who just went for 96-1364-8 with mostly Fields at QB.

Everyone would argue Aiyuk is better than Sutton, who just 10 TDs with Wilson.

I'm not going to disagree with any of these 3 points. However, I don't see the Steelers going pass-heavy all of a sudden, and quite a bit of their passing are dump-offs to the running back, IIRC. Strikes me that Aiyuk might struggle to get the same numbers with Pickens on the other side, and a reduced passing volume.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The question is, does Wilson/Fields diminish Aiyuk, or does Aiyuk elevate Wilson/Fields?

Both.

If this is only draft picks it makes SF worse short term but maybe better down the road. Reverse for Pitt.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I will say, one of the great tragedies of our numbers obsessed era when it comes to HOF cases has been George Kittle.

He's lucky he plays in the NFL instead of the MLB. MLB HOF inductions are (mostly) based on stats. NFL HOF inductions are based on narrative. So Kittle may have a shot, especially if SF wins a title or two before he retires.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

but then Rappaport has a long history of being wrong as well.

Also of just parroting what an agent tells him regardless of whether there's any truth to it. The amount of time he spends fact-checking is close to zero.

 

[travdogg]

I think they could weather the storm at WR. Deebo is capable of more targets, perhaps so is Jennings. They seem to like Bell, and maybe Gray becomes something, at least as a clearout guy.

Jennings isn't the best route runner. Reportedly one reason they drafted Pearsall is that they needed a 2nd crisp route runner so that Shanny's misdirection would be more effective to open things up for Deebo & CMC out the backfield.

If Aiyuk leaves, that puts the 49ers back into the position of needing a 2nd crisp route runner, AND depending on a rookie to be that guy.

I will say, one of the great tragedies of our numbers obsessed era when it comes to HOF cases has been George Kittle. I'd argue he's been better than Kelce this whole time, he just hasn't been targeted at the same level. If Aiyuk goes, maybe we get the 140 target Kittle that we've missed out on.

Totally agree about Kittle, and he becomes significantly more compelling if Aiyuk is gone.

I'd bet on Aiyuk helping to elevate, but not being his 2023 self fantasy wise.

Most would agree that Aiyuk is better than DJ Moore, who just went for 96-1364-8 with mostly Fields at QB.

Everyone would argue Aiyuk is better than Sutton, who just 10 TDs with Wilson.

I'm not going to disagree with any of these 3 points. However, I don't see the Steelers going pass-heavy all of a sudden, and quite a bit of their passing are dump-offs to the running back, IIRC.

Fair on Jennings. I was thinking of him just as more of an acceptable bridge to Pearsall being the #2 and being capable of being that guy for at least the early part of the season.

Kittle, I think would have a TE1 overall case if Aiyuk goes.

The Steelers are likely cutting down on checkdown throws a lot with the new OC who is a fan of PA and deep shots, as opposed to the old OC who was a fan of...being clueless on how to call plays, and hoping for the best? I think that is also why Fields is getting a long look (which I think happens regardless of Wilson's injury) as he throws a nice deep ball. I don't think the Steelers become pass heavy, but I do think they are attempting to challenge a lot more vertically, and all of their moves (OC, QB, OL, and if it happens Aiyuk) point to that direction.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but then Rappaport has a long history of being wrong as well.

Also of just parroting what an agent tells him regardless of whether there's any truth to it. The amount of time he spends fact-checking is close to zero.

Yep, this too. And when it comes to these situations, agents leaking rumors seems to drive a lot of narratives.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Steelers are likely cutting down on checkdown throws a lot with the new OC who is a fan of PA and deep shots, as opposed to the old OC who was a fan of...being clueless on how to call plays, and hoping for the best? I think that is also why Fields is getting a long look (which I think happens regardless of Wilson's injury) as he throws a nice deep ball. I don't think the Steelers become pass heavy, but I do think they are attempting to challenge a lot more vertically, and all of their moves (OC, QB, OL, and if it happens Aiyuk) point to that direction.

As a Fields shareholder in 2 leagues, I certainly hope you're right about that, especially if Aiyuk goes to PIT.

 

[Wingnut]

think they could weather the storm at WR. Deebo is capable of more targets, perhaps so is Jennings. They seem to like Bell, and maybe Gray becomes something, at least as a clearout guy

Jennings isn't the best route runner. Reportedly one reason they drafted Pearsall is that they needed a 2nd crisp route runner so that Shanny's misdirection would be more effective to open things up for Deebo & CMC out the backfield.

If Aiyuk leaves, that puts the 49ers back into the position of needing a 2nd crisp route runner, AND depending on a rookie to be that guy.

I think Chris Conley is the closest SF has to Aiyuk at the moment. I'm not saying he's as good, or that hes a plug in replacement, but the way he runs his routes reminds me of Aiyuk and he has good hands.

I could see Conley and Jennings splitting BAs targets and Pearsall being worked in more as the season goes on.

 

[menobrown]

The Steelers are likely cutting down on checkdown throws a lot with the new OC who is a fan of PA and deep shots, as opposed to the old OC who was a fan of...being clueless on how to call plays, and hoping for the best? I think that is also why Fields is getting a long look (which I think happens regardless of Wilson's injury) as he throws a nice deep ball. I don't think the Steelers become pass heavy, but I do think they are attempting to challenge a lot more vertically, and all of their moves (OC, QB, OL, and if it happens Aiyuk) point to that direction.

As a Fields shareholder in 2 leagues, I certainly hope you're right about that, especially if Aiyuk goes to PIT.

It's Russell Wilson's job.

 

[Chaka]

NFL Rumors is saying Niners want Minka Fitz back so that’s probably why this is taking so long. Steelers are trying to stop laughing long enough to reject the proposal.

I guess you can't blame them for asking. Could not reject fast enough.