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[NJ OAK]

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[fsufan]

I hope he plays this week, I need him

 

[gman74]

I hope he plays this week, I need him

thanks for the update

 

[MileHigh]

Saints had the day off today, but all of the sites are saying he will likely start this week. Still don't think I could start him as he is not going to be 100% anyway. Would you really start him in a playoff game after being out 3 weeks? He has definitely hurt my team, but still could not start him his first game (especially in playoffs).

What's the norm on recovery for ankle sprain?

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Saints had the day off today, but all of the sites are saying he will likely start this week. Still don't think I could start him as he is not going to be 100% anyway. Would you really start him in a playoff game after being out 3 weeks? He has definitely hurt my team, but still could not start him his first game (especially in playoffs).What's the norm on recovery for ankle sprain?

if he's healthy, why would you sit him? KJ seemed to do fine this week recovering from an ankle. the fact that he didn't play last week makes me more comfortable starting him this week, not less. seems like the saints are waiting til he's 100%. if they are comfortable with him, so am i.

 

[Evilhomer3k]

Didn't he practice some last week and then was a Sunday scratch?

 

[Ditka is God]

I read today that he wasn't close to returning last week, and likely won't play for another 2-3 weeks. He has a sprained ankle (although not a high ankle sprain) as well as a sprained achilles. Here's the link although I can't vouch for the accuracy. I was hoping Colston would be back in time for my playoffs but I'm not banking on it now.

 

[FantasyGuru#1]

That article is a bunch of bull.. Holding him out till the playoffs.. Come On! IF that was the case wouldnt u think that they would of not started horn this week!

With Horn hurting they will get Colsten in as soon as he feels real close......

My bet is he plays this week or next week by the latest.. They need him as this week I feel Dallas will beat them.... They cannot afford to think that they will be a shoe in for the playoffs by holding out colsten... If they feel he wasnt close then last week he wouldn't of tried to give it a go at game time!

 

[SickThing]

Didn't he practice some last week and then was a Sunday scratch?

IIRC he was out running on it, but couldn't make cuts. Saints will update his status on Wednesday. I hope he's available for me this playoff week.

 

[kd1]

I read today that he wasn't close to returning last week, and likely won't play for another 2-3 weeks. He has a sprained ankle (although not a high ankle sprain) as well as a sprained achilles. Here's the link although I can't vouch for the accuracy. I was hoping Colston would be back in time for my playoffs but I'm not banking on it now.

yeah, he was on cold pizza this morning, and sounded very sketchy when they asked him when he was coming back and if he would be back this week. almost like he was withholding telling them that he's not coming back any time soon. who knows though.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

I hope he plays this week, I need him

thanks for the update

Yeah, you were really helpful as well.If it really is a high ankle sprain, which is what it looks like now, he's not coming back until week 16 or 17. Sad but true.

 

[fsufan]

I hope he plays this week, I need him

thanks for the update

Yeah, you were really helpful as well.

 

[fsufan]

That article is a bunch of bull.. Holding him out till the playoffs.. Come On! IF that was the case wouldnt u think that they would of not started horn this week!With Horn hurting they will get Colsten in as soon as he feels real close......My bet is he plays this week or next week by the latest.. They need him as this week I feel Dallas will beat them.... They cannot afford to think that they will be a shoe in for the playoffs by holding out colsten... If they feel he wasnt close then last week he wouldn't of tried to give it a go at game time!

this is a big game for NO and Dallas. It could decide who is the #2 seed in the NFL

 

[Bri]

That article is a bunch of bull.. Holding him out till the playoffs.. Come On! IF that was the case wouldnt u think that they would of not started horn this week!With Horn hurting they will get Colsten in as soon as he feels real close......My bet is he plays this week or next week by the latest.. They need him as this week I feel Dallas will beat them.... They cannot afford to think that they will be a shoe in for the playoffs by holding out colsten... If they feel he wasnt close then last week he wouldn't of tried to give it a go at game time!

this is a big game for NO and Dallas. It could decide who is the #2 seed in the NFC

 

[Cowboys#1]

if he doesnt play against the Cowboys my thinking is he wont be back until week 16 at the earliest..

this game is HUGE for both teams, winner has the upper hand on the #2 seed and i would imagine that they would do whatever it takes to get a guy playing...

 

[MSULions]

What's the word on Horn as well? I just picked up Copper - if both are out he could be a decent fill in...

 

[mad sweeney]

if he doesnt play against the Cowboys my thinking is he wont be back until week 16 at the earliest..this game is HUGE for both teams, winner has the upper hand on the #2 seed and i would imagine that they would do whatever it takes to get a guy playing...

More like a half step over the other for the #2. Seahawks have a cake schedule the rest of the way (AZ, SF, SD, TB) and should finish 3-1. The winner of this game has no more than a leg up on the other and still a dogfight for #2.

 

[Sidewinder]

What's the word on Horn as well? I just picked up Copper - if both are out he could be a decent fill in...

Horn will miss the next game or two at minimum -- small groin tear (per local radio last night). And they were not very optimistic about Colston or Will Smith playing this week either, but should know alot more after today's practice.

 

[Jene Bramel]

If it really is a high ankle sprain, which is what it looks like now, he's not coming back until week 16 or 17. Sad but true.

I don't really want to get into the anatomical discussion again, but I've been and still am skeptical about the "this is not a high ankle sprain" talk too. It looked like the mechanism for a high ankle sprain and the recovery period is starting to push that of a lower ankle injury.If it isn't a high ankle sprain and there's any truth to the Achilles question, that's a pretty big red flag also.Regardless, the outlook doesn't look good for his owners. Hopefully we'll get good news after practice today.

 

[Bri]

What's the word on Horn as well? I just picked up Copper - if both are out he could be a decent fill in...

Horn will miss the next game or two at minimum -- small groin tear (per local radio last night). And they were not very optimistic about Colston or Will Smith playing this week either, but should know alot more after today's practice.

Copper, not Devery, is Horn's backup right?

 

[Sidewinder]

Copper, not Devery, is Horn's backup right?

For the most part, that's right. Copper started when Horn was out at Pitt and at TB, and came in for him last week vs SF. Henderson came in for Colston when he was hurt vs Cinc, and started in that spot at Atl and vs SF.

 

[MSULions]

Copper, not Devery, is Horn's backup right?

For the most part, that's right. Copper started when Horn was out at Pitt and at TB, and came in for him last week vs SF. Henderson came in for Colston when he was hurt vs Cinc, and started in that spot at Atl and vs SF.

so for us Horn owners, the Copper should be the right fill in?

 

[Biabreakable]

Copper, not Devery, is Horn's backup right?

For the most part, that's right. Copper started when Horn was out at Pitt and at TB, and came in for him last week vs SF. Henderson came in for Colston when he was hurt vs Cinc, and started in that spot at Atl and vs SF.

so for us Horn owners, the Copper should be the right fill in?

Yes with Horn out if Colston plays Henderson will go back to his role as the WR3.Copper backs up Horn and the game that Horn missed before while Colston was healthy Copper started for Horn not Henderson.

 

[Lock Daddy]

Copper, not Devery, is Horn's backup right?

For the most part, that's right. Copper started when Horn was out at Pitt and at TB, and came in for him last week vs SF. Henderson came in for Colston when he was hurt vs Cinc, and started in that spot at Atl and vs SF.

so for us Horn owners, the Copper should be the right fill in?

Yes with Horn out if Colston plays Henderson will go back to his role as the WR3.Copper backs up Horn and the game that Horn missed before while Colston was healthy Copper started for Horn not Henderson.

Henderson went for 111/2 when Horn was out at TB while Copper had one catch for 11 yards. Granted, Copper had 6 catches for 95/1 the following week at Pitt while Henderson put up the goose egg. Did Henderson get his touches as the #3 WR in the TB game or did he fill in some for Horn? I would expect Henderson to get additional looks with Horn out regardless of Colston's status. Am I wrong here?

 

[Sidewinder]

...Henderson went for 111/2 when Horn was out at TB while Copper had one catch for 11 yards. ... Did Henderson get his touches as the #3 WR in the TB game or did he fill in some for Horn? ...

I was at the Tampa game (group of us always go to one road game a year). I'm pretty certain that both of Henderson's TDs in that game came out of 3WR formations. Don't know of any way to confirm that though.

...I would expect Henderson to get additional looks with Horn out regardless of Colston's status. Am I wrong here?

Certainly a reasonable expectation, but I would have expected Henderson to have gotten at least a few looks at Pitt (he got zero), and I would have expected Copper to have gotten some targets last week vs SF (he got zero). So, guess what I'm saying is, it's not a given. From a fan's perspective, that's the great thing about this offense, and probably a nightmare for opposing defensive coordinators and fantasy football owners.There is one other guy I expect to see get anywhere from 3 to 6 looks this week, and that is Aaron Stecker. Payton loves to use him in the slot and split wide, and with Horn (almost certain to be) out and Colston still very iffy, Stecker may get a good bit of playing time as the WR3 and WR4. (edited to add: scratch that, Stecker is now listed as doubtful this week)

 

[Marc Levin]

I read today that he wasn't close to returning last week, and likely won't play for another 2-3 weeks. He has a sprained ankle (although not a high ankle sprain) as well as a sprained achilles. Here's the link although I can't vouch for the accuracy. I was hoping Colston would be back in time for my playoffs but I'm not banking on it now.

yeah, he was on cold pizza this morning, and sounded very sketchy when they asked him when he was coming back and if he would be back this week. almost like he was withholding telling them that he's not coming back any time soon. who knows though.

That does not sound good. Wish I had seen that episode so I could judge for myself.

 

[Biabreakable]

QUOTE(Lock Daddy @ Dec 6 2006, 03:22 PM) ...I would expect Henderson to get additional looks with Horn out regardless of Colston's status. Am I wrong here?

I think Henderson is a strong play regardless of where he is lining up on the field but his game is all about speed so it is a bit hit or miss. If Colston is out he may draw coverage from Newman though and that is not a matchup I would feel totaly comfortable with.What happened to Henderson last week anyways? He got pretty much shut down IIRC.

 

[footballgeek]

 

[Marc Levin]

QUOTE(Lock Daddy @ Dec 6 2006, 03:22 PM) ...I would expect Henderson to get additional looks with Horn out regardless of Colston's status. Am I wrong here?

I think Henderson is a strong play regardless of where he is lining up on the field but his game is all about speed so it is a bit hit or miss. If Colston is out he may draw coverage from Newman though and that is not a matchup I would feel totaly comfortable with.What happened to Henderson last week anyways? He got pretty much shut down IIRC.

I think the inside/outside of Deuce and Reggie made all the WRs irrelevant.Only 6 targets, and he dropped some easy ones early. No targets at all in the second half.

 

[JerseyPaul]

 

[djb916420]

Marques Colston (questionable, ankle) and Joe Horn (questionable, groin) both missed at least a portion of practice Wednesday.

We expect both to again be game-time decisions. Horn is believed to have aggravated the groin injury that's hindered him since mid-season. There's been no new news on Colston, and it is clear that his ankle sprain was more serious than Saints coach Sean Payton initially let on.

 

[joffer]

Saints | Colston limited in practice Wednesday

Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:18:08 -0800

New Orleans Saints WR Marques Colston (ankle) was limited in practice Wednesday, Dec. 6, and is questionable for Week 14.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Saints | Colston limited in practice WednesdayWed, 6 Dec 2006 15:18:08 -0800New Orleans Saints WR Marques Colston (ankle) was limited in practice Wednesday, Dec. 6, and is questionable for Week 14.

"ouch"

 

[kncks12]

Saints | Colston limited in practice WednesdayWed, 6 Dec 2006 15:18:08 -0800New Orleans Saints WR Marques Colston (ankle) was limited in practice Wednesday, Dec. 6, and is questionable for Week 14.

"ouch"

GTD for a Sunday night game. If you have to set line ups by 1:00 and you are fighting for a playoff spot, I just don't think many will be starting him with that format! Too risky!

 

[Chickenwang]

I went w/o a TE the last two weeks because I knew I was going to make the playoffs.

This week, I was hoping he'd be back. Part of the reason i'm in the playoffs..haha

Now I have to pickup some scrub off the WW

 

[NJ OAK]

Saints | Colston limited in practice WednesdayWed, 6 Dec 2006 15:18:08 -0800New Orleans Saints WR Marques Colston (ankle) was limited in practice Wednesday, Dec. 6, and is questionable for Week 14.

Friggin' wonderful. He's not playing, bet on it. Why can't anybody ever diagnose the seriousness of these ankle injuries (or disclose them)? This started out with him saying he could have played the Sunday after the injury but decided not to play. Now, in a crucial game, he is still questionable and limited in practice. I expected this week to be the target date of his return. Guess I was wrong. Sorry for the rant....

 

[Biabreakable]

Actualy some posters who saw the trainers working on Colston right after the injury speculated that it was a high ankle sprain and it is looking like that assesment was correct.

Lots of smoke screens by coaches and players alike trying to keep defenses guessing in the NFL.

 

[Marc Levin]

Lots of smoke screens by coaches and players alike trying to keep defenses guessing in the NFL.

Seems to have worked well for DeAngelo Williams Monday night.

 

[FantasyGuru#1]

Lots of smoke screens by coaches and players alike trying to keep defenses guessing in the NFL.

Seems to have worked well for DeAngelo Williams Monday night.

Yeah but What I can't Understand is the week after the injury, he tried to give it a go and there were reports that said that he looked good running his routes, but that he had a bit of a problem cutting and that was 2 weeks ago.. ur telling me hes gotten worse.. when can we expect this kid to be back.. Thank God that I have a bye this week in the playoffs but can he possibly return the following week.. Maybe the guy Is a #####cat like some are saying!

 

[mr. furley]

BVWIH

 

[shuke]

If it really is a high ankle sprain, which is what it looks like now, he's not coming back until week 16 or 17. Sad but true.

I don't really want to get into the anatomical discussion again, but I've been and still am skeptical about the "this is not a high ankle sprain" talk too. It looked like the mechanism for a high ankle sprain and the recovery period is starting to push that of a lower ankle injury.If it isn't a high ankle sprain and there's any truth to the Achilles question, that's a pretty big red flag also.Regardless, the outlook doesn't look good for his owners. Hopefully we'll get good news after practice today.

3 weeks would be "pushing it" for recovery time of lower ankle sprain? Come on.With that said, it really doesn't matter what we call it, because there are varying degrees of severity for any sprain. People shouldn't just assume that a high ankle sprain means 8 weeks and other ankle sprains mean 4.

 

[FantasyGuru#1]

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High Ankle is usually 4 weeks Unless its really severe..

 

[JBTV]

Lots of smoke screens by coaches and players alike trying to keep defenses guessing in the NFL.

Seems to have worked well for DeAngelo Williams Monday night.

Yeah but What I can't Understand is the week after the injury, he tried to give it a go and there were reports that said that he looked good running his routes, but that he had a bit of a problem cutting and that was 2 weeks ago.. ur telling me hes gotten worse.. when can we expect this kid to be back.. Thank God that I have a bye this week in the playoffs but can he possibly return the following week.. Maybe the guy Is a #####cat like some are saying!

You can actually do a lot more right after you sprain an ankle than you can after you stop moving on it and it swells up. That's why he could do some stuff after the injury before it got swollen and tightened up. As far as high versus low, the main difference is that with a high sprain, the ankle twists outward (away from your other leg.) Generally they are worse because the ligaments can stretch farther going that way, causing more damage, especially to the ligaments a little farther up the leg, which is why they call it a "high" sprain. A regular sprain can be just as painful and take as long of a recovery if it is severe enough, it's just less likely to be as severe an injury.I'm no doctor, but I know a lot about ankle sprains from personal experience. Doesn't really have anything to do with when he'll be back, but just so you know the facts.

 

[Fantasy Bum]

QUOTE(Lock Daddy @ Dec 6 2006, 03:22 PM) ...I would expect Henderson to get additional looks with Horn out regardless of Colston's status. Am I wrong here?

I think Henderson is a strong play regardless of where he is lining up on the field but his game is all about speed so it is a bit hit or miss. If Colston is out he may draw coverage from Newman though and that is not a matchup I would feel totaly comfortable with.What happened to Henderson last week anyways? He got pretty much shut down IIRC.

Last week was the 'Reggie Bush' show. Brees threw for 186 yards. Bush had 131 receiving. I don't see that happening again. Look for the ball to be distributed better as Dallas will have it's heart set on stopping Reggie.

 

[Bri]

Lots of smoke screens by coaches and players alike trying to keep defenses guessing in the NFL.

Seems to have worked well for DeAngelo Williams Monday night.

Yeah but What I can't Understand is the week after the injury, he tried to give it a go and there were reports that said that he looked good running his routes, but that he had a bit of a problem cutting and that was 2 weeks ago.. ur telling me hes gotten worse.. when can we expect this kid to be back.. Thank God that I have a bye this week in the playoffs but can he possibly return the following week.. Maybe the guy Is a #####cat like some are saying!

You can actually do a lot more right after you sprain an ankle than you can after you stop moving on it and it swells up. That's why he could do some stuff after the injury before it got swollen and tightened up.

JBTV, I don't disagree with the thinking of the response but realize the Q you replied to was how he would play in (then)"next week's game." Enough time to swell

 

[baronson]

if my memory serves me, isn't a high-ankle sprain, or even a moderate or grade-2 sprain a 4 week injury? does someone have some empirical evidence on this?

if i'm correct, then i wouldn't expect him back this week, but he should be back for next week. sounds reasonable too, given his progress. from sportsline:

Marques Colston, WR NO

News: Saints WR Marques Colston, who has not played for nearly three full games, said Wednesday that he is making progress on his sprained left ankle. He said he has the strength to push off and play, but that he would be doing so in pain and possibly risking further injury. For that reason, trainers are taking a conservative approach with him as the Saints, leading the NFC South, make a push for the playoffs. "For a while it was getting pretty frustrating, but you've got to realize it's something that comes with this game," Colston said. "You just try to keep a positive attitude and get back as soon as possible. Physically I can probably get out there and push through some of the pain, but on Wednesday that really doesn't help too much, so we're just trying to be smart about it."

 

[redman]

He got me into the playoffs, but now I'm wondering whether he'll be there to help me win in the playoffs.

 

[Sidewinder]

if my memory serves me, isn't a high-ankle sprain, or even a moderate or grade-2 sprain a 4 week injury? does someone have some empirical evidence on this? ...

I posted this several weeks ago, but it probably got lost in the shuffle. Colston had been having some Achilles problems a week or two prior to the ankle injury. Obviously not enough to have kept him from playing, and not something the team was publicizing as he never made an injury report with it, but it was a concern. The ankle injury aggravated the Achilles, and the combination of the two are what has given him trouble and made it hard to determine when he'll be back. This has been talked about several times on local radio by the guy who hosts the weeknight sports talk shows on WWL, is the Saints sideline reporter, and has covered the team for close to twenty years.

 

[cartel]

if my memory serves me, isn't a high-ankle sprain, or even a moderate or grade-2 sprain a 4 week injury? does someone have some empirical evidence on this? ...

I posted this several weeks ago, but it probably got lost in the shuffle. Colston had been having some Achilles problems a week or two prior to the ankle injury. Obviously not enough to have kept him from playing, and not something the team was publicizing as he never made an injury report with it, but it was a concern. The ankle injury aggravated the Achilles, and the combination of the two are what has given him trouble and made it hard to determine when he'll be back. This has been talked about several times on local radio by the guy who hosts the weeknight sports talk shows on WWL, is the Saints sideline reporter, and has covered the team for close to twenty years.

I am in aggreement with the Inbreeder. If this were a grade 2 ankle sprain this dude would be back by now. High ankle sprains or more omniously achilles problems would be a more likely scenerio for someone to be out this long. Both Jennings and Kevin Jones had sig ankle sprains and were back in a week or two...I am a little worried about Coleston.

 

[Ditka is God]

I read today that he wasn't close to returning last week, and likely won't play for another 2-3 weeks. He has a sprained ankle (although not a high ankle sprain) as well as a sprained achilles. Here's the link although I can't vouch for the accuracy. I was hoping Colston would be back in time for my playoffs but I'm not banking on it now.

Bump. I provided that link because it states he doesn't have a high ankle sprain - he has a regular ankle sprain combined with an achilles strain."Mike Detillier, a beat writer who's been with the Saints for just as long as there's been dirt, has reported on the Saints Report radio show that Colston was not close to playing last week against the 49ers, as the team indicated. He wasn't simply out for precautionary reasons. The ankle is giving him problems. It's actually a combination of ankle sprain (although it's not a "high" ankle sprain, which is good) and an Achilles strain. I'd guess that he only comes back in the regular season if the Saints begin to falter and need to scrap for a playoff spot in Weeks 16 and 17. More likely, the team will keep him out for the rest of the regular season so that he is good-to-go for the playoffs."