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[NJ OAK]

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Rotoworld:

Marques Colston-WR- Saints Dec. 7 - 5:12 pm et

Marques Colston (questionable, ankle) missed at least a portion of practice again Thursday.

Colston may be making progress in practice, but it appears he's recovering from a high ankle sprain despite initial reports to the contrary. Colston still can't push off without pain, now almost three weeks removed from his injury.

He's done.

 

[Todem]

I am preparing to not have Colston available for the Fantasy playoffs. With that and Horn being out this week in all likleyhood Terence Copper looks like a nice sleeper play.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I am preparing to not have Colston available for the Fantasy playoffs. With that and Horn being out this week in all likleyhood Terence Copper looks like a nice sleeper play.

Let's hope so.

 

[Marc Levin]

Re-set to zero versus zero.

Let's keep it nice and on the news.

Thanks.

 

[redman]

"Mike Detillier, a beat writer who's been with the Saints for just as long as there's been dirt,

Huh, and here I thought that the Saints were an expansion team . . .

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Any updates from Friday practice?

 

[Doug B]

Rotoworld:

Marques Colston-WR- Saints Dec. 7 - 5:12 pm et

... but it appears he's recovering from a high ankle sprain despite initial reports to the contrary ...

He's done.

I was telling people that this was the deal three weeks ago, when Colston first went down. Naysayers soon rushed in, saying Colston was barely hurt.

 

[Franknbeans]

I'm beginning to think Colston is a big #####

 

[redman]

And I would have played Nate Washington last night if I'd known for sure he wasn't going to play.

 

[DoubleG]

Rotoworld:

Marques Colston-WR- Saints Dec. 7 - 5:12 pm et

... but it appears he's recovering from a high ankle sprain despite initial reports to the contrary ...

He's done.

I was telling people that this was the deal three weeks ago, when Colston first went down. Naysayers soon rushed in, saying Colston was barely hurt.

I beleive the "I told you so" forum is a few doors down

 

[Doug B]

Any updates from Friday practice?

Should be coming out about 5 p.m. Central.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm beginning to think Colston is a big #####

Based on what? An Achilles heel injury that he played with but aggravated? I don't think the best analysis is that it is a HAS, but that it is an achilles injury complicating his recovery from the sprain.It could be a HAS, but there is no definitive word on that. I think there was a pretty good word that his Achilles injury is complicating his recovery from the sprain - this is a compendium from this thread:

He has a sprained ankle (although not a high ankle sprain) as well as a sprained achilles. Here's the link although I can't vouch for the accuracy.

http://saints.aolsportsblog.com/ Go about 7 stories down and you'll find this quote:

Mike Detillier, a beat writer who's been with the Saints for just as long as there's been dirt, has reported on the Saints Report radio show that Colston was not close to playing last week against the 49ers, as the team indicated. He wasn't simply out for precautionary reasons. The ankle is giving him problems. It's actually a combination of ankle sprain (although it's not a "high" ankle sprain, which is good) and an Achilles strain.

From Dr. Brammel:

but I've been and still am skeptical about the "this is not a high ankle sprain" talk too. It looked like the mechanism for a high ankle sprain and the recovery period is starting to push that of a lower ankle injury.

If it isn't a high ankle sprain and there's any truth to the Achilles question, that's a pretty big red flag also.

And the counter-argument from shuke:

3 weeks would be "pushing it" for recovery time of lower ankle sprain? Come on.

With that said, it really doesn't matter what we call it, because there are varying degrees of severity for any sprain. People shouldn't just assume that a high ankle sprain means 8 weeks and other ankle sprains mean 4.

And from JBTV:

As far as high versus low, the main difference is that with a high sprain, the ankle twists outward (away from your other leg.) Generally they are worse because the ligaments can stretch farther going that way, causing more damage, especially to the ligaments a little farther up the leg, which is why they call it a "high" sprain. A regular sprain can be just as painful and take as long of a recovery if it is severe enough, it's just less likely to be as severe an injury.

I'm no doctor, but I know a lot about ankle sprains from personal experience. Doesn't really have anything to do with when he'll be back, but just so you know the facts.

And from (seemingly quite knowledgeable) Saints fan Sidewinder:

I posted this several weeks ago, but it probably got lost in the shuffle. Colston had been having some Achilles problems a week or two prior to the ankle injury. Obviously not enough to have kept him from playing, and not something the team was publicizing as he never made an injury report with it, but it was a concern. The ankle injury aggravated the Achilles, and the combination of the two are what has given him trouble and made it hard to determine when he'll be back. This has been talked about several times on local radio by the guy who hosts the weeknight sports talk shows on WWL, is the Saints sideline reporter, and has covered the team for close to twenty years.

Rotoworld is reporting it as a "seeming" HAS, but they are clueless. More wrong reports from Rotoworld than I can count. The end result is the same - whether it is a HAS or an ankle sprain complicated by an Achilles injury, Colston's in extreme pain when he pushes off, he is currently questionable on the IR, and he will be a GTD. Given those factors, and the skill of the Dallas defenders, I'd ccount on him NOT being able to play for you and, if he is not a gameday scratch, make a last minute decision to start him.

 

[Marc Levin]

Rotoworld:

Marques Colston-WR- Saints Dec. 7 - 5:12 pm et

... but it appears he's recovering from a high ankle sprain despite initial reports to the contrary ...

He's done.

I was telling people that this was the deal three weeks ago, when Colston first went down. Naysayers soon rushed in, saying Colston was barely hurt.

I beleive the "I told you so" forum is a few doors down

Where's the "unnecessary noise" forum?

 

[Doug B]

The end result is the same - whether it is a HAS or an ankle sprain complicated by an Achilles injury, Colston's in extreme pain when he pushes off, he is currently questionable on the IR, and he will be a GTD. Given those factors, and the skill of the Dallas defenders, I'd ccount on him NOT being able to play for you and, if he is not a gameday scratch, make a last minute decision to start him.

I was hasty in latching on to a quasi-confirmation of the HAS diagnosis. But you're right about how severe his injury is (and always was).

 

[Doug B]

No news yet ... might hear something on the way home on local sports radio. Unfortunately, I don't have Internet access at home right now ... won't be able to post anything.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

No news yet ... might hear something on the way home on local sports radio. Unfortunately, I don't have Internet access at home right now ... won't be able to post anything.

Can you "phone a friend"?

 

[jagbag]

Per Bob harris at football diehards.

ESPN "NFL Live" host Trey Wingo just advised viewers that Marques Colston was limited to individual drills again Friday and remains questionable for Sunday's game against the Cowboys.

Colston has not played in nearly three full games due to a sprained left ankle.

Wingo suggested the fact that Colston has been able to work at least on a limited basis this week, makes him a true "Dreaded Game-Time Decision." I tend to agree. I strongly suspect nothing will be decided until Colston hits the field during pre-game warmups and tests his injured ankle.

That's also how it was last week.

Veteran Joe Horn, on the other hand, has done very little in practice this week and was also held out of full-team drills again Friday. He seems less likely to make it onto the field Sunday night than Colston.

Horn started last Sunday in a win over San Francisco, but aggravated his nagging groin injury.

Terrance Copper would probably start if Horn can't play against the Cowboys. Devery Henderson will likely start again if Colston can't play.

I'd love to start Henderson, but he sure screwed me last week. I dodn't know if I can roll the dice again.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Bump up Bush's value once again.

If you need a TE, Mark Campbell was targeted often last week with no Horn or Colston and Dev Henderson dropping passes.

If Dallas can somehow contain Bush, it could be a long day for the Saints.

 

[Bri]

Rotoworld:

Marques Colston-WR- Saints Dec. 7 - 5:12 pm et

... but it appears he's recovering from a high ankle sprain despite initial reports to the contrary ...

He's done.

I was telling people that this was the deal three weeks ago, when Colston first went down. Naysayers soon rushed in, saying Colston was barely hurt.

I beleive the "I told you so" forum is a few doors down

Where's the "unnecessary noise" forum?

echo, echo, echoright here

 

[Marc Levin]

Excellent update, jagbag.

Thanks!

 

[sib]

Bump up Bush's value once again.

If you need a TE, Mark Campbell was targeted often last week with no Horn or Colston and Dev Henderson dropping passes.

If Dallas can somehow contain Bush, it could be a long day for the Saints.

Man I've been thinking the same thing. First round of the playoffs and I have LJ, Betts, Marion Barber, and R Bush to choose from. I hate LJ's matchup, but he's been my horse all year and I'm gonna stick with him. I'm real tempted to start Bush also (PPR league) with Colston/Horn hobbling around, but I think I may play it safe and stick with Betts. If Reggie has another huge game this week, he will have made a believer out of me that he has turned the corner.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

If Dallas can somehow contain Bush, it could be a long day for the Saints.

Are we talking about the same Reggie Bush who hasn't done squat (in non-ppr leagues) until last week against the rather pathetic Niner defense? I don't think Dallas will have any problem containing him.

 

[Marc Levin]

Wow - tough choice.

Normally, you have to play Bush in a PPR. But, that Dallas D is scary. You have great choices at RB and I think that is the safe move - LJ/Betts

Depends on your matchup - if you feel confident against your opponent, you play it safe. If you need to roll the dice b/c your opponent has superior firepower, you have a hard choice.

 

[Marc Levin]

If Dallas can somehow contain Bush, it could be a long day for the Saints.

Are we talking about the same Reggie Bush who hasn't done squat (in non-ppr leagues) until last week against the rather pathetic Niner defense? I don't think Dallas will have any problem containing him.

Agree that Bush is not a reliable choice in non-PPR leagues - esp. against that Dallas D.But, he's hard to bench in PPR leagues.I hate the matchup for the Saints - I think Dallas' D is too strong, especially at home in a really important game, for the Saints to have an offensive explosion on the road.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Good info in here. Thanks to all who contributed and didn't get sidetracked.

 

[gman74]

it sounds like colston is done for the ff season

 

[acme]

what exactly does the envelope with the hole thru it mean? i really don't know...thanks in advance for a straight forward response to a less-experienced poster.

 

[Skeetcher]

what exactly does the envelope with the hole thru it mean? i really don't know...thanks in advance for a straight forward response to a less-experienced poster.

It puts a black dot on the thread so you can reference it later

 

[guest 54788]

what exactly does the envelope with the hole thru it mean? i really don't know...thanks in advance for a straight forward response to a less-experienced poster.

Read this post...

 

[Lambert]

Okay, definitely take this with a HUGE grain of salt, because it's a secondhand report about what was said on local radio, but in the interest of more information being better, someone on the Saints local board posted that WWL (the local New Orleans Saints radio station) reported Colston will play this Sunday. Again, this is NOT at all confirmed that WWL actually said this (or that it is necessarily true even if WWL did say it).

Here's the link:

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthr...7388&page=2

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Suprise most here never read threads about high ankle sprains (which is what it is but Saints never want to say that)..its a 4-6 week recovery period..all asking if he will play since week 11 (saw alot of them- a fact).

Since this is his 4th week since injury its a possible GTD..but against Dallas at Dallas..one more week most likely..Just my opinion!

 

[NJ OAK]

Suprise most here never read threads about high ankle sprains (which is what it is but Saints never want to say that)..its a 4-6 week recovery period..all asking if he will play since week 11 (saw alot of them- a fact).Since this is his 4th week since injury its a possible GTD..but against Dallas at Dallas..one more week most likely..Just my opinion!

Are you implying that they would concede the game?

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Suprise most here never read threads about high ankle sprains (which is what it is but Saints never want to say that)..its a 4-6 week recovery period..all asking if he will play since week 11 (saw alot of them- a fact).Since this is his 4th week since injury its a possible GTD..but against Dallas at Dallas..one more week most likely..Just my opinion!

Are you implying that they would concede the game?

As stated was my opinion!

 

[NJ OAK]

Suprise most here never read threads about high ankle sprains (which is what it is but Saints never want to say that)..its a 4-6 week recovery period..all asking if he will play since week 11 (saw alot of them- a fact).Since this is his 4th week since injury its a possible GTD..but against Dallas at Dallas..one more week most likely..Just my opinion!

Are you implying that they would concede the game?

As stated was my opinion!

I think Sean Payton playing for the first time as a head coach against one of his former Mentors would do everything in his power to give his team the best chance of winning. That includes playing your best players.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Suprise most here never read threads about high ankle sprains (which is what it is but Saints never want to say that)..its a 4-6 week recovery period..all asking if he will play since week 11 (saw alot of them- a fact).Since this is his 4th week since injury its a possible GTD..but against Dallas at Dallas..one more week most likely..Just my opinion!

Are you implying that they would concede the game?

As stated was my opinion!

I think Sean Payton playing for the first time as a head coach against one of his former Mentors would do everything in his power to give his team the best chance of winning. That includes playing your best players.

The best players are healthy players...Henderson and Copper did ok as backups and most likely will start this week14.

 

[NJ OAK]

Suprise most here never read threads about high ankle sprains (which is what it is but Saints never want to say that)..its a 4-6 week recovery period..all asking if he will play since week 11 (saw alot of them- a fact).Since this is his 4th week since injury its a possible GTD..but against Dallas at Dallas..one more week most likely..Just my opinion!

Are you implying that they would concede the game?

As stated was my opinion!

I think Sean Payton playing for the first time as a head coach against one of his former Mentors would do everything in his power to give his team the best chance of winning. That includes playing your best players.

The best players are healthy players...Henderson and Copper did ok as backups and most likely will start this week14.

Has Copper even caught any balls aside from the freak lucky ''hail mary' at the end of the half a couple of weeks ago?

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Suprise most here never read threads about high ankle sprains (which is what it is but Saints never want to say that)..its a 4-6 week recovery period..all asking if he will play since week 11 (saw alot of them- a fact).Since this is his 4th week since injury its a possible GTD..but against Dallas at Dallas..one more week most likely..Just my opinion!

Are you implying that they would concede the game?

As stated was my opinion!

I think Sean Payton playing for the first time as a head coach against one of his former Mentors would do everything in his power to give his team the best chance of winning. That includes playing your best players.

The best players are healthy players...Henderson and Copper did ok as backups and most likely will start this week14.

Has Copper even caught any balls aside from the freak lucky ''hail mary' at the end of the half a couple of weeks ago?

Does he play alot? To me any saint WR is not going to have good stats..Dallas is in the hunt and will play great at home!

 

[Skeetcher]

Has Copper even caught any balls aside from the freak lucky ''hail mary' at the end of the half a couple of weeks ago?

6/87/1 against the Bengals the week prior to the 'hail mary' game. 6/92/1 the week before that against the Steelers.http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/player/g...ogs/2006/501448

Yup, he's caught a few.....

 

[NJ OAK]

Has Copper even caught any balls aside from the freak lucky ''hail mary' at the end of the half a couple of weeks ago?

6/87/1 against the Bengals the week prior to the 'hail mary' game. 6/92/1 the week before that against the Steelers.http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/player/g...ogs/2006/501448

Yup, he's caught a few.....

Yes, 2 games that Colston was still playing and getting all of the attention. (Actually, the Cinci game is when he got hurt and when Copper played, he was a nobody and was not considered a focal point for the Cinci Defense) Anyway, my bad. I have committed one of my own pet peeves and derailed this post from actual news.

 

[Skeetcher]

Has Copper even caught any balls aside from the freak lucky ''hail mary' at the end of the half a couple of weeks ago?

6/87/1 against the Bengals the week prior to the 'hail mary' game. 6/92/1 the week before that against the Steelers.http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/player/g...ogs/2006/501448

Yup, he's caught a few.....

Yes, 2 games that Colston was still playing and getting all of the attention. (Actually, the Cinci game is when he got hurt and when Copper played, he was a nobody and was not considered a focal point for the Cinci Defense) Anyway, my bad. I have committed one of my own pet peeves and derailed this post from actual news.

You asked whether Copper had caught any balls and I was merely pointing out that he had. The fact is Henderson is more likely to replace Colston than Copper (who is generally seen as a back up for Horn). In the Cincinnati game both players were able to put up good numbers and with the additional threat of (a more dangerous) Reggie Bush to keep the Dallas D honest I can see no reason why they can't have good games again on Sunday night.

 

[Marc Levin]

I don't care if you all wanna talk Copper here - it's fine by me.

But, as NJ OAK acknowledges, a lotta folks don't want to sift through that for Colston news.

Copper talk

Here.

and here.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

The only news on Colston news is the same since week11...GTD!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Anyway, my bad. I have committed one of my own pet peeves and derailed this post from actual news.

The sad thing is that there will likely not be much news between now and Sunday Night, which will kill most of the chances for starting him this week.Unless you have Henderson or a Dallas, STL or CHI alternative and can make changes up until kickoff, you're in a terrible position here and have to assume he is out for the week.I just don't see any real meaningful info coming before Colston warms up (unless I missed any news of him not travelling with the team.....)

 

[Statorama]

Unless you have Henderson or a Dallas, STL or CHI alternative and can make changes up until kickoff, you're in a terrible position here and have to assume he is out for the week.

My feeling as well. I don't like the matchup against the Cowboys anyway.I've checked every reliable fantasy source in my arsenal, but all I'm getting back on Colston is :crickets:

 

[gbill2004]

John Czarnecki of FOXSports.com reports the Saints "figure to be minus rookie wide receiver Marques Colston (ankle)" against the Cowboys.

Colston and Joe Horn (groin) are officially game-time decisions. The Czar doesn't mention Horn but we still aren't confident he'll play or play much even if he's active. Devery Henderson will start for Colston.

Source: FOXSports.com

 

[joffer]

John Czarnecki of FOXSports.com reports the Saints "figure to be minus rookie wide receiver Marques Colston (ankle)" against the Cowboys.

####. just when it looked like he wasn't going to play!

 

[gbill2004]

ESPN's John Clayton reports Joe Horn (groin) is out for Sunday's game but Marques Colston (ankle) might try to play.

We'd still be wary of using Colston in a receiver spot because he's highly unlikely to be 100 percent. He remains a game-time decision and the inactives should be posted shortly. If he plays, Colston is a decent fantasy start if you can use him as a tight end. Terrance Copper will start for Horn.

 

[MrPhoenix]

Updates?

 

[Ditka is God]

With an 8:15 start time you probably won't hear anything concrete until after the 4:00 games have started.

 

[MrPhoenix]

With an 8:15 start time you probably won't hear anything concrete until after the 4:00 games have started.

Looks like he's on the bench again.