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Perhaps not but I was using it the same. I just don't see it as that strong. Looks like much of the market agrees.
I think they drafted Egbuka over the 29 year old seriously injured Godwin to specifically do that very thing. I think that is 100% what they had in mind. And at this point anything Godwin gives them moving forward is a bonus.
I mean they are both 1A and 1B and this is now the 3rd time I've said that. Is that really so weird?
You say that but Evans ADP remains higher.
Don't think they'd activate him if they did not think he'd be returning in at least October and as I said even if he's not quite himself he's still going to man the valuable primary slot role in this offense.
I don't know how you are arriving at this conclusion.
Or can feel so definitive to say this.
You mean the same seriously injured 29 year old they just guaranteed $44m? Come on already. Egbuka may be the slot of the future, he's not that guy when Godwin is back.
Yes.
Does ANY of the market agree? Do you have any adp lists, or redrafts you've seen, where he is drafted above Evans?
I can buy Godwin will be a problem IF he is strong when he comes back. I don't actually believe that is going to happen. They signed him in March before the draft and I think they were protecting their investment because they didn't/don't want to lose him if he is in fact able to come back strong. But it was also the most eyebrow raising deal of the offseason for me. Look he is one of my favorite players but I just think he has had his day. The Bucs wanted to do him right and have some faith yes. Then they drafted Egbuka at 19 I think that actually says more than the money.
If my understanding is correct, he had a 2nd surgery over the summer. Was that expected when they resigned Godwin or has he suffered a setback?
As I sit here today I see Evans #1 on the outside and Egbuka #1 at slot and so my standing question that nobody has answered is who else TODAY?
Don't know but doubt it was to much of a surprise either way considering it was the spring when both of those things happened.
I think it would be to Godwin.
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Strongly agree with this post, even as a long time Egbuka-stan. Prior to going down last season, Godwin was looking like he was going to hit, if not surpass, his 2019 numbers. Definitely on pace to finish as a WR1, potentially top 6 guy. It's hard to predict what he looks like when he comes back, and where the offense will be at. But looking to 2026 I'd imagine he'll be the lead guy in that WR room again.I think it would be to Godwin.
A trying year helped Chris Godwin realize he has everything he needs in Tampa Bay
Godwin, ready to be a spoke in the wheel again, is rehabbing from last season's fractured fibula, torn deltoid and high ankle sprain.
Still, Godwin expects his role to be similar to what it was in 2024, when he played primarily in the slot, as he had from 2019 through 2022.
“Last year verified for me that the slot is where I feel most comfortable, where I can be most involved in the game and do the most damage,” he says.
Godwin’s production has never been the result of nine routes that leave a trail of vapor. He’s not the type of playmaker who shows up every week on “You Got Mossed.”
He has dominated with movements that are subtle, precision that is surgical, and grit that is commanding. And he has been consistent like an atomic clock.
Godwin’s style of play could bode well for him in his post-ankle injury phase. Certainly, the Bucs, Patriots and Steelers saw it that way. The Bucs wouldn’t have given him $44 million in guaranteed money if they had doubts.
With all due respect I feel, with extreme confidence, I already know.
If you believe in Egbuka's talent like I do, Godwin coming back isn't going to matter. Egbuka is the future for the team and if he's productive while Godwin is out, they aren't going to cut his snaps.
Just as a note on the bolded; I heard it a bit last year, but it's been gaining steam and heard many of the bigger names quoting these stats this offseason in regards to fantasy strategies shifting from looking at late season wins/fantasy playoff matchups etc. vs the importance of starting out hot. They reference a lot of different things against it, including one of the other more popular strategy flips from what it used to be 5+ years ago till now of drafting vs avoiding injured players at a discount. Seems to have gone from a sought out thing, to this concept that "injuries will find your team all on their own, don't seek them out in your draft".
I'm interested to see if the new OC does more of the same that Coen was doing or tried to switch it up to his own style. In which case what does that mean for CG when he comes back. He may not get that role back because it might not be the same in the new offense.Strongly agree with this post, even as a long time Egbuka-stan. Prior to going down last season, Godwin was looking like he was going to hit, if not surpass, his 2019 numbers. Definitely on pace to finish as a WR1, potentially top 6 guy. It's hard to predict what he looks like when he comes back, and where the offense will be at. But looking to 2026 I'd imagine he'll be the lead guy in that WR room again.I think it would be to Godwin.
A trying year helped Chris Godwin realize he has everything he needs in Tampa Bay
Godwin, ready to be a spoke in the wheel again, is rehabbing from last season's fractured fibula, torn deltoid and high ankle sprain.
Still, Godwin expects his role to be similar to what it was in 2024, when he played primarily in the slot, as he had from 2019 through 2022.
“Last year verified for me that the slot is where I feel most comfortable, where I can be most involved in the game and do the most damage,” he says.
Godwin’s production has never been the result of nine routes that leave a trail of vapor. He’s not the type of playmaker who shows up every week on “You Got Mossed.”
He has dominated with movements that are subtle, precision that is surgical, and grit that is commanding. And he has been consistent like an atomic clock.
Godwin’s style of play could bode well for him in his post-ankle injury phase. Certainly, the Bucs, Patriots and Steelers saw it that way. The Bucs wouldn’t have given him $44 million in guaranteed money if they had doubts.
Considering they just promoted the passing game coordinator who was responsible for third down packages it's really hard for to think anything is going to change.I'm interested to see if the new OC does more of the same that Coen was doing or tried to switch it up to his own style. In which case what does that mean for CG when he comes back. He may not get that role back because it might not be the same in the new offense.Strongly agree with this post, even as a long time Egbuka-stan. Prior to going down last season, Godwin was looking like he was going to hit, if not surpass, his 2019 numbers. Definitely on pace to finish as a WR1, potentially top 6 guy. It's hard to predict what he looks like when he comes back, and where the offense will be at. But looking to 2026 I'd imagine he'll be the lead guy in that WR room again.I think it would be to Godwin.
A trying year helped Chris Godwin realize he has everything he needs in Tampa Bay
Godwin, ready to be a spoke in the wheel again, is rehabbing from last season's fractured fibula, torn deltoid and high ankle sprain.
Still, Godwin expects his role to be similar to what it was in 2024, when he played primarily in the slot, as he had from 2019 through 2022.
“Last year verified for me that the slot is where I feel most comfortable, where I can be most involved in the game and do the most damage,” he says.
Godwin’s production has never been the result of nine routes that leave a trail of vapor. He’s not the type of playmaker who shows up every week on “You Got Mossed.”
He has dominated with movements that are subtle, precision that is surgical, and grit that is commanding. And he has been consistent like an atomic clock.
Godwin’s style of play could bode well for him in his post-ankle injury phase. Certainly, the Bucs, Patriots and Steelers saw it that way. The Bucs wouldn’t have given him $44 million in guaranteed money if they had doubts.
Interesting but I'm sure so much variance depending on league set up.
Another part of starting off hot is you have the market for trades if you want
Certainly it makes sense that record after five games would be very highly correlated to making the playoffs, mostly because of two obvious reasons: (1) five games of your schedule are already determined, and your record is what gets you into the playoffs or not (in most leagues), and (2) your record is a reflection of your team's strength, and your team's strength influences the outcome of your remaining matches. But using that to say that it's specifically important to win the first five games, versus any other five games, seems fallacious to me. Akin to "this team is 9-0 when they have at least 35 passing attempts, and 2-3 when they don't; therefore it's critical that they get those 35 attempts in."
Yeah I haven't really felt strongly enough to push my bet on one side or the other. But my purely biased experience has found that buying players for an injury discount in the draft rarely provides much of a boon for my team. I wouldn't say it hurts me every time; other than the obvious inherent downside of using a roster spot on a guy who can't play for a number of weeks. But in general, the discounts are never that great IME. Plus the finicky nature of injuries, there have been times I get burned a week or two when the guy finally comes back and gets the start, but is almost more of a decoy than an active participant.
Yes and it still might be worth it. ADPs never rise or fall quickly enough with real news. In this case the news is, there is zero resistance to him getting out there and showing it day 1. If Godwin was known to be hurt and McMillan was known to be hurt before draft season started, this wouldn't feel like a steep price because we would've never seen the complete misprice early on. It would've just been an extremely high pedigree WR with high draft capital going to a great passing situation with tons of available targets. Marvin Harrison was getting drafted at the 1/2 turn for less last offseason.
