WR Garrett Wilson, NYJ (1 Viewer)

[Jacob's Ladder]

Rodgers burned this franchise to the ground.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Rodgers burned this franchise to the ground.

He was forcing throws to DA. I mean he targeted DA 13 times. It led to 6 catches for 31 yards. Terrible efficiency. This was the fear for us GW owners. There was no need to trade for DA.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Rodgers burned this franchise to the ground.

He was forcing throws to DA. I mean he targeted DA 13 times. It led to 6 catches for 31 yards. Terrible efficiency. This was the fear for us GW owners. There was no need to trade for DA.

The first red flag was when Rodgers brought that slug Hackett to NY. If it wasn’t DA it was going to be Allen Lazard or maybe Rodgers could have lured Randall Cobb out of retirement.

Mike Williams sure looked good catching that go ahead TD today though…for the Steelers.

 

[Chemical X]

Rodgers burned this franchise to the ground.

it was already burned down, rodgers is just letting the ashes sit on top of the tin foil rain after rain so that it becomes a filthy mess that no one wants to clean up.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Rodgers burned this franchise to the ground.

it was already burned down, rodgers is just letting the ashes sit on top of the tin foil rain after rain so that it becomes a filthy mess that no one wants to clean up.

The only positive is that they have some nice pieces for whoever comes in. If they keep losing they can draft a new QB and won't be far off provided they find a coaching staff that can get all these me first players playing as a team. Salah has to be laughing his *** off right now.

 

[Chemical X]

Rodgers burned this franchise to the ground.

it was already burned down, rodgers is just letting the ashes sit on top of the tin foil rain after rain so that it becomes a filthy mess that no one wants to clean up.

The only positive is that they have some nice pieces for whoever comes in. If they keep losing they can draft a new QB and won't be far off provided they find a coaching staff that can get all these me first players playing as a team. Salah has to be laughing his *** off right now.

i would like to believe this, but with wilson, hall, gardner and even JJ coming off of rookie deals, the jets will need to spend if these guys even want to bother sticking around. this is gonna be a full org rebuild and 25 year olds might want to actually win. i wouldn’t be confident winning and the jets will be in the same sentence and this qb class looks like it will be dry when the jets go around 12. ugh

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Rodgers burned this franchise to the ground.

it was already burned down, rodgers is just letting the ashes sit on top of the tin foil rain after rain so that it becomes a filthy mess that no one wants to clean up.

The only positive is that they have some nice pieces for whoever comes in. If they keep losing they can draft a new QB and won't be far off provided they find a coaching staff that can get all these me first players playing as a team. Salah has to be laughing his *** off right now.

i would like to believe this, but with wilson, hall, gardner and even JJ coming off of rookie deals, the jets will need to spend if these guys even want to bother sticking around. this is gonna be a full org rebuild and 25 year olds might want to actually win. i wouldn’t be confident winning and the jets will be in the same sentence and this qb class looks like it will be dry when the jets go around 12. ugh

I hear ya, but if they get a QB and a coach next year all might be forgiven. They can cut Lazard and a few other anchors next season without consequence. It was criminal what they were paying AL anyway. Most of the young guys are under contract through 2025 so they have a little time to decide and free up more cap space before making decisions. Hall is a great player, but if Allen continues to evolve Hall might be gone. Wilson and Sauce have to be priorities. I'm not too concerned about the roster or cap space outside of Rodgers. They really screwed up with his contract. It's going to be a problem but if they don't cut Rodgers, it might be hard finding a real coach next year though and that might burn them long term. Next season is so important in so many ways.

 

[Chemical X]

Rodgers burned this franchise to the ground.

it was already burned down, rodgers is just letting the ashes sit on top of the tin foil rain after rain so that it becomes a filthy mess that no one wants to clean up.

The only positive is that they have some nice pieces for whoever comes in. If they keep losing they can draft a new QB and won't be far off provided they find a coaching staff that can get all these me first players playing as a team. Salah has to be laughing his *** off right now.

i would like to believe this, but with wilson, hall, gardner and even JJ coming off of rookie deals, the jets will need to spend if these guys even want to bother sticking around. this is gonna be a full org rebuild and 25 year olds might want to actually win. i wouldn’t be confident winning and the jets will be in the same sentence and this qb class looks like it will be dry when the jets go around 12. ugh

I hear ya, but if they get a QB and a coach next year all might be forgiven. They can cut Lazard and a few other anchors next season without consequence. It was criminal what they were paying AL anyway. Most of the young guys are under contract through 2025 so they have a little time to decide and free up more cap space before making decisions. Hall is a great player, but if Allen continues to evolve Hall might be gone. Wilson and Sauce have to be priorities. I'm not too concerned about the roster or cap space outside of Rodgers. They really screwed up with his contract. It's going to be a problem but if they don't cut Rodgers, it might be hard finding a real coach next year though and that might burn them long term. Next season is so important in so many ways.

honestly, i assume woody will be gone and CJ will be calling the shots. but they haven’t gotten anything right in years so i will be highly pessimistic they can figure out anything regardless who is hiring.

 

[Uncle Leo]

What then heck was that? 4-18 on 8 targets? Butterfingers or Indy double teamed him? AR’s BFF had a much better game comparatively.

 

[togo]

Great questions.
What a dud of a game.

 

[JohnnyU]

85 Bears

 

[togo]

Last 4 games yardage:
41
33
57
60

Killing me.
Seems like he is now an after thought with Roger’s and Adams.

 

[irish eyes]

Last 4 games yardage:
41
33
57
60

Killing me.
Seems like he is now an after thought with Roger’s and Adams.

Yep, can't start him anymore. Try being me in dynasty with him & Breece. Can't start either one with 85 year old Rodgers & his man love for Adams and this horrible franchise. These 2 couldn't have gone to a worse team.

 

[Chaka]

Last 4 games yardage:
41
33
57
60

Killing me.
Seems like he is now an after thought with Roger’s and Adams.

Yep, can't start him anymore. Try being me in dynasty with him & Breece. Can't start either one with 85 year old Rodgers & his man love for Adams and this horrible franchise. These 2 couldn't have gone to a worse team.

He had 10 targets.

 

[irish eyes]

Last 4 games yardage:
41
33
57
60

Killing me.
Seems like he is now an after thought with Roger’s and Adams.

Yep, can't start him anymore. Try being me in dynasty with him & Breece. Can't start either one with 85 year old Rodgers & his man love for Adams and this horrible franchise. These 2 couldn't have gone to a worse team.

He had 10 targets.

Look at his yards last 4 games above, it's pathetic. But actually I show 91,41,18,41 which is still awful.

 

[Chaka]

Last 4 games yardage:
41
33
57
60

Killing me.
Seems like he is now an after thought with Roger’s and Adams.

Yep, can't start him anymore. Try being me in dynasty with him & Breece. Can't start either one with 85 year old Rodgers & his man love for Adams and this horrible franchise. These 2 couldn't have gone to a worse team.

He had 10 targets.

Look at his yards last 4 games above, it's pathetic. But actually I show 91,41,18,41 which is still awful.

Okay. He still has 10 targets and Rodgers,. unfortunately missed him wide open in the end zone.

You don't have a lot of 10 target/game WRs in the NFL.

 

[Uncle Leo]

AR missed him in the end zone for a TD. He was wide open.

 

[Faust]

Jets' Garrett Wilson tries to clear air after sideline outburst

 

[irish eyes]

Jets' Garrett Wilson tries to clear air after sideline outburst

Please leave the Jets. I have him in dynasty & this is about the worst franchise to be on

 

[Faust]

Wide receiver Garrett Wilson noncommittal about remaining with Jets long-term

Jets’ Garrett Wilson Had Sad Answer on His Limited Targets in Loss to Rams

 

[BlackCrowes]

Get out of that joke of a franchise…now

 

[Uncle Leo]

This went exactly as we alll thought when DA came over. Wilson went from a stud to an average PPR WR.

 

[Dizzy]

This went exactly as we alll thought when DA came over. Wilson went from a stud to an average PPR WR.

Eh... more like "potential" stud to pretty much the same player he has been all year.

 

[menobrown]

This went exactly as we alll thought when DA came over. Wilson went from a stud to an average PPR WR.

Eh... more like "potential" stud to pretty much the same player he has been all year.

He was WR12 before the trade in PPR PPG, has performed as WR25 since the trade. He's dropped around 2.3 fantasy points a game so I'm not trying to mis-represent this but that's typical for that small of a point differential to make that big of a difference. On the season the gap between the current WR12(Terry) and the current WR25(Jeudy) is 2.7 points.

And that all sounds about right for Wilson. Trade dropped him WR1/2 fringe to WR2/3 fringe.


I honestly think Rodgers suddenly start peppering Wilson with targets the two games before they traded for Davante on the notion he knew once he got Davante, and he knew he would get him, that he was going to reduce Wilson to the #2 in every way and he was trying to placate him while he could.

And I don't think Wilson lack of usage after blowing up on Rodgers last week for not throwing him a fade(which he proceeded to throw to Adams) is mere conicidence either. This is all just the kind of passive/aggressive schemer I believe Rodgers to be. Obviously can't prove any of this so don't ask, just my thoughts on who Rodgers is as a person.

Wilson's had enough that's for sure. He was waxing poetic after the game about the Mike LaFluer era of his career and having taken it for granted and when someone is saying that you know it's bad right now, like god awful bad. Was calm but seemed clearly frustrated with his role, saying stuff like he'd like to do more but people see it differently and there nothing he can do about it. Will be an interesting off-season, but if Jets actually decide they want to keep Rodgers I would not be surprised if he does not request a trade, more along the lines of shocked. Might request one anyway but I think if they get rid of Rodgers they got a better shot of workign it out with him if they want to.

 

[BladeRunner]

This went exactly as we alll thought when DA came over. Wilson went from a stud to an average PPR WR.

Eh... more like "potential" stud to pretty much the same player he has been all year.

He was WR12 before the trade in PPR PPG, has performed as WR25 since the trade. He's dropped around 2.3 fantasy points a game so I'm not trying to mis-represent this but that's typical for that small of a point differential to make that big of a difference. On the season the gap between the current WR12(Terry) and the current WR25(Jeudy) is 2.7 points.

And that all sounds about right for Wilson. Trade dropped him WR1/2 fringe to WR2/3 fringe.


I honestly think Rodgers suddenly start peppering Wilson with targets the two games before they traded for Davante on the notion he knew once he got Davante, and he knew he would get him, that he was going to reduce Wilson to the #2 in every way and he was trying to placate him while he could.

And I don't think Wilson lack of usage after blowing up on Rodgers last week for not throwing him a fade(which he proceeded to throw to Adams) is mere conicidence either. This is all just the kind of passive/aggressive schemer I believe Rodgers to be. Obviously can't prove any of this so don't ask, just my thoughts on who Rodgers is as a person.

Wilson's had enough that's for sure. He was waxing poetic after the game about the Mike LaFluer era of his career and having taken it for granted and when someone is saying that you know it's bad right now, like god awful bad. Was calm but seemed clearly frustrated with his role, saying stuff like he'd like to do more but people see it differently and there nothing he can do about it. Will be an interesting off-season, but if Jets actually decide they want to keep Rodgers I would not be surprised if he does not request a trade, more along the lines of shocked. Might request one anyway but I think if they get rid of Rodgers they got a better shot of workign it out with him if they want to.

I'd love to see Wilson go to the Packers.

 

[Faust]

Garrett Wilson's future in New York a key question for Jets' 2025 offseason

 

[-OZ-]

Garrett Wilson's future in New York a key question for Jets' 2025 offseason

Imagine Wilson with a good QB who knows how and wants to use him.

 

[Aznflyer14]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

 

[eighsse2]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

 

[BassNBrew]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

 

[eighsse2]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

 

[BassNBrew]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Wilson, Olave, and Williamson all draft in the 10-12 range and all 24 yo. IMO the ceiling is the same for those 3. I'd rather have more bullets in the chamber.

 

[eighsse2]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Wilson, Olave, and Williamson all draft in the 10-12 range and all 24 yo. IMO the ceiling is the same for those 3. I'd rather have more bullets in the chamber.

Yeah he may be a little bit over the top on his Garrett hopes. Metcalf is on the old side, the narrative on Olave is he'll be braindead soon, and Williams of course is exciting but still a knucklehead. But Wilson comes with a knock as well, that being, if he's not elite by now, when?

Also ... what do you mean exactly when you say 10-12 range? In all of the interpretations that I can think of, that seems either too high or too low.

 

[BassNBrew]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Wilson, Olave, and Williamson all draft in the 10-12 range and all 24 yo. IMO the ceiling is the same for those 3. I'd rather have more bullets in the chamber.

Yeah he may be a little bit over the top on his Garrett hopes. Metcalf is on the old side, the narrative on Olave is he'll be braindead soon, and Williams of course is exciting but still a knucklehead. But Wilson comes with a knock as well, that being, if he's not elite by now, when?

Also ... what do you mean exactly when you say 10-12 range? In all of the interpretations that I can think of, that seems either too high or too low.

Where the NFL originally drafted them. Williamson probably would have been higher but had the injury. Basically the NFL saw their ceiling as the same. Has anything changed outside of Olave picking up knocks, Wilson having bad QBs, and Williamson being stuck in an offense with great options?

FBG has Metcalf, Olave, and Godwin projected ahead of Garrett this year. I take the side of the trade that gets better production this year and more bullets in future years.

 

[menobrown]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Wilson, Olave, and Williamson all draft in the 10-12 range and all 24 yo. IMO the ceiling is the same for those 3. I'd rather have more bullets in the chamber.

Yeah he may be a little bit over the top on his Garrett hopes. Metcalf is on the old side, the narrative on Olave is he'll be braindead soon, and Williams of course is exciting but still a knucklehead. But Wilson comes with a knock as well, that being, if he's not elite by now, when?

Also ... what do you mean exactly when you say 10-12 range? In all of the interpretations that I can think of, that seems either too high or too low.

Where the NFL originally drafted them. Williamson probably would have been higher but had the injury. Basically the NFL saw their ceiling as the same. Has anything changed outside of Olave picking up knocks, Wilson having bad QBs, and Williamson being stuck in an offense with great options?

FBG has Metcalf, Olave, and Godwin projected ahead of Garrett this year. I take the side of the trade that gets better production this year and more bullets in future years.

That's surprising because in FFPC redrafts Wilson is going a good 3 rounds over all of them.

 

[BassNBrew]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Wilson, Olave, and Williamson all draft in the 10-12 range and all 24 yo. IMO the ceiling is the same for those 3. I'd rather have more bullets in the chamber.

Yeah he may be a little bit over the top on his Garrett hopes. Metcalf is on the old side, the narrative on Olave is he'll be braindead soon, and Williams of course is exciting but still a knucklehead. But Wilson comes with a knock as well, that being, if he's not elite by now, when?

Also ... what do you mean exactly when you say 10-12 range? In all of the interpretations that I can think of, that seems either too high or too low.

Where the NFL originally drafted them. Williamson probably would have been higher but had the injury. Basically the NFL saw their ceiling as the same. Has anything changed outside of Olave picking up knocks, Wilson having bad QBs, and Williamson being stuck in an offense with great options?

FBG has Metcalf, Olave, and Godwin projected ahead of Garrett this year. I take the side of the trade that gets better production this year and more bullets in future years.

That's surprising because in FFPC redrafts Wilson is going a good 3 rounds over all of them.

Olave 19
Metcalf 23
Godwin 27
Wilson 29

Unfortunately there might be something biasing the results like a date submitted filter.

@Joe Bryant Can we please get the expert projections on the player pages like it used to be so we can identify any outliers instantly instead of have to open numerous sets of projections?

 

[menobrown]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Wilson, Olave, and Williamson all draft in the 10-12 range and all 24 yo. IMO the ceiling is the same for those 3. I'd rather have more bullets in the chamber.

Yeah he may be a little bit over the top on his Garrett hopes. Metcalf is on the old side, the narrative on Olave is he'll be braindead soon, and Williams of course is exciting but still a knucklehead. But Wilson comes with a knock as well, that being, if he's not elite by now, when?

Also ... what do you mean exactly when you say 10-12 range? In all of the interpretations that I can think of, that seems either too high or too low.

Where the NFL originally drafted them. Williamson probably would have been higher but had the injury. Basically the NFL saw their ceiling as the same. Has anything changed outside of Olave picking up knocks, Wilson having bad QBs, and Williamson being stuck in an offense with great options?

FBG has Metcalf, Olave, and Godwin projected ahead of Garrett this year. I take the side of the trade that gets better production this year and more bullets in future years.

That's surprising because in FFPC redrafts Wilson is going a good 3 rounds over all of them.

Olave 19
Metcalf 23
Godwin 27
Wilson 29

Unfortunately there might be something biasing the results like a date submitted filter.

@Joe Bryant Can we please get the expert projections on the player pages like it used to be so we can identify any outliers instantly instead of have to open numerous sets of projections?

I believe you and can see the same thing, just surprising because in actual drafts it's very different.

I'm in a FFPC BB draft right now and it went:

Wilson-WR10
Godwin- WR27
Olave-WR29
DK-WR30 (picked right after Olave)

In FFPC non BB redrafts over last 10 days:

Wilson -WR12
Godwin- WR24
Olave- WR25
Metcalf-WR29

And fwiw Jameson is WR31

To your larger point if roster space is not an issue I'd take 3 of them over Wilson.

 

[BassNBrew]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Wilson, Olave, and Williamson all draft in the 10-12 range and all 24 yo. IMO the ceiling is the same for those 3. I'd rather have more bullets in the chamber.

Yeah he may be a little bit over the top on his Garrett hopes. Metcalf is on the old side, the narrative on Olave is he'll be braindead soon, and Williams of course is exciting but still a knucklehead. But Wilson comes with a knock as well, that being, if he's not elite by now, when?

Also ... what do you mean exactly when you say 10-12 range? In all of the interpretations that I can think of, that seems either too high or too low.

Where the NFL originally drafted them. Williamson probably would have been higher but had the injury. Basically the NFL saw their ceiling as the same. Has anything changed outside of Olave picking up knocks, Wilson having bad QBs, and Williamson being stuck in an offense with great options?

FBG has Metcalf, Olave, and Godwin projected ahead of Garrett this year. I take the side of the trade that gets better production this year and more bullets in future years.

That's surprising because in FFPC redrafts Wilson is going a good 3 rounds over all of them.

Olave 19
Metcalf 23
Godwin 27
Wilson 29

Unfortunately there might be something biasing the results like a date submitted filter.

@Joe Bryant Can we please get the expert projections on the player pages like it used to be so we can identify any outliers instantly instead of have to open numerous sets of projections?

I believe you and can see the same thing, just surprising because in actual drafts it's very different.

I'm in a FFPC BB draft right now and it went:

Wilson-WR10
Godwin- WR27
Olave-WR29
DK-WR30 (picked right after Olave)

In FFPC non BB redrafts over last 10 days:

Wilson -WR12
Godwin- WR24
Olave- WR25
Metcalf-WR29

And fwiw Jameson is WR31

To your larger point if roster space is not an issue I'd take 3 of them over Wilson.

Your actual results mirror what i would expect.

I think there's an issue with the FBG rankings not picking up all the projectors and defaulting to one projector right now. Consensus has Wilson at 218.3. Wood 218.3, Norton 218.3, Harris 245.5, Tremblay 224,3. So obviously something is broken. @Joe Bryant I submitted a support ticket. Hate to harp on this, but have the individual projections on the player pages would making finding stuff like this much easier.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Curious... what's everyone's overall value on Wilson? Is he hold? Sell?

I keep trying to buy him but I only want to stack multiple lower players for him, which of course is hard to get done.

Just fyi, this is what I offered to the Wilson owner.

Pick any three of the following:
DK Metcalf
Chris Olave
Jameson Williams
Ricky Pearsall
Chris Godwin
Travis Etienne
D'Andre Swift

For:
Garrett Wilson
And the #23 pick

Note that (1) our league loves RB's much more than WR's, (2) that #23 pick isn't worth much in our league and I would do the trade without it, and (3) we can only start 2-3 WR, so elite guys could come at a premium compared to most leagues.

He said he'd think about it but I don't think he'll be going for it.

I would be all over this taking the Metcalf, Olave, and Williamson/Godwin side.

Yeah I think anyone would admit it's a good, strong offer. In a league where you start 3-5 WR or something like that, it would maybe be a smash accept for him. But when it's only 2-3, you kind of hold out hope for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Wilson, Olave, and Williamson all draft in the 10-12 range and all 24 yo. IMO the ceiling is the same for those 3. I'd rather have more bullets in the chamber.

Yeah he may be a little bit over the top on his Garrett hopes. Metcalf is on the old side, the narrative on Olave is he'll be braindead soon, and Williams of course is exciting but still a knucklehead. But Wilson comes with a knock as well, that being, if he's not elite by now, when?

Also ... what do you mean exactly when you say 10-12 range? In all of the interpretations that I can think of, that seems either too high or too low.

Where the NFL originally drafted them. Williamson probably would have been higher but had the injury. Basically the NFL saw their ceiling as the same. Has anything changed outside of Olave picking up knocks, Wilson having bad QBs, and Williamson being stuck in an offense with great options?

FBG has Metcalf, Olave, and Godwin projected ahead of Garrett this year. I take the side of the trade that gets better production this year and more bullets in future years.

That's surprising because in FFPC redrafts Wilson is going a good 3 rounds over all of them.

Olave 19
Metcalf 23
Godwin 27
Wilson 29

Unfortunately there might be something biasing the results like a date submitted filter.

@Joe Bryant Can we please get the expert projections on the player pages like it used to be so we can identify any outliers instantly instead of have to open numerous sets of projections?

I believe you and can see the same thing, just surprising because in actual drafts it's very different.

I'm in a FFPC BB draft right now and it went:

Wilson-WR10
Godwin- WR27
Olave-WR29
DK-WR30 (picked right after Olave)

In FFPC non BB redrafts over last 10 days:

Wilson -WR12
Godwin- WR24
Olave- WR25
Metcalf-WR29

And fwiw Jameson is WR31

To your larger point if roster space is not an issue I'd take 3 of them over Wilson.

Your actual results mirror what i would expect.

I think there's an issue with the FBG rankings not picking up all the projectors and defaulting to one projector right now. Consensus has Wilson at 218.3. Wood 218.3, Norton 218.3, Harris 245.5, Tremblay 224,3. So obviously something is broken. @Joe Bryant I submitted a support ticket. Hate to harp on this, but have the individual projections on the player pages would making finding stuff like this much easier.

Thanks. We'll take a look there. Working on lots of new look stuff for this year.

 

[pinkstapler]

Jets have do have an option on him for 2026 but spotrac has it as a nearly $17mil price tag.

I'd imagine his fantasy price starts to creep up as people get their hopes up for him going... well practically anywhere that isn't the Jets. Current ADP ~WR14 start up. I'd think he jumps into the 8-10 range by years end regardless of how he does this season, when we are fantasizing about adding him to the Broncos/Chargers/Chiefs/Panthers/Packers/etc.

 

[efactor]

Garrett Wilson's future in New York a key question for Jets' 2025 offseason

Imagine Wilson with a good QB who knows how and wants to use him.

I do that every time I draft him with a 1-2 turn pick in redraft

 

[menobrown]

Jets have do have an option on him for 2026 but spotrac has it as a nearly $17mil price tag.

I'd imagine his fantasy price starts to creep up as people get their hopes up for him going... well practically anywhere that isn't the Jets. Current ADP ~WR14 start up. I'd think he jumps into the 8-10 range by years end regardless of how he does this season, when we are fantasizing about adding him to the Broncos/Chargers/Chiefs/Panthers/Packers/etc.

I honestly moved on from idea of him leaving the Jets, just don't see it happening.

I know they will work diligently to extend him after the draft but young talented WR's like him just don't hit FA so even if they don't get it done this off-season I think they will and have no interest in making him available by trade unless he wanted out and I think he's pretty happy to get Fields, even if his fantasy owners are less then jacked up about it.

 

[pinkstapler]

Jets have do have an option on him for 2026 but spotrac has it as a nearly $17mil price tag.

I'd imagine his fantasy price starts to creep up as people get their hopes up for him going... well practically anywhere that isn't the Jets. Current ADP ~WR14 start up. I'd think he jumps into the 8-10 range by years end regardless of how he does this season, when we are fantasizing about adding him to the Broncos/Chargers/Chiefs/Panthers/Packers/etc.

I honestly moved on from idea of him leaving the Jets, just don't see it happening.

I know they will work diligently to extend him after the draft but young talented WR's like him just don't hit FA so even if they don't get it done this off-season I think they will and have no interest in making him available by trade unless he wanted out and I think he's pretty happy to get Fields, even if his fantasy owners are less then jacked up about it.

True. DJ Moore seemed to like him quite a bit, I think I remember him being a little upset when Chicago moved on from Fields. And while it might have not always looked pretty on tv, I think Fields at QB led Moore to career highs in receptions/yards/and TDs. I still wish Steelers invested at least one more season in him; especially now seeing our options this year are a one year Rodgers bridge, or a rookie I'm not especially high on.

But yeah, if I was a Wilson owner, I wouldn't be too upset about a Fields led offense for his fantasy production.

 

[Cheen]

Was all in on GW with Rodgers, pretty big disappointment.

Now we have another defensive HC and an OC hired away from Detroit who maybe Detroit didn't want to keep. Justin Fields is being paid pretty decent money for a player who couldn't keep Russ Wilson off the field.

I think the only hope for GW fantasy owners is such a miserable year this year that he decides he wants out of NYJ.

Last couple days during rookie draft I tried offloading GW for Tet Mcmillan..Denied, then Treyveon Henderson...Denied. In hindsight maybe I should have tried trading for the pics as owners tend to be tied to players after they are drafted.

 

[wgoldsph]

I'm the opposite of the thinking on Wilson apparently. He put up great numbers with fricken Mike White at QB, image how he could do with just a low end starter throwing him the ball.

I think Fields locks onto him and Wilson finally breaks into the elites

 

[KellysHeroes]

I'm the opposite of the thinking on Wilson apparently. He put up great numbers with fricken Mike White at QB, image how he could do with just a low end starter throwing him the ball.

I think Fields locks onto him and Wilson finally breaks into the elites

Fields will target Wilson... but with the most in-accurate NFL Balls in the league. Not looking forward to this.

 

[travdogg]

I'm the opposite of the thinking on Wilson apparently. He put up great numbers with fricken Mike White at QB, image how he could do with just a low end starter throwing him the ball.

I think Fields locks onto him and Wilson finally breaks into the elites

Fields will target Wilson... but with the most in-accurate NFL Balls in the league. Not looking forward to this.

Fields is more accurate than what Wilson has had for almost all his career. He also was the QB when DJ Moore had his best season.

I think the issue for Wilson is less about QB, and more about what reason does any defense have not to double him constantly?

 

[darksideofoz]

Fields' ADOT is lower than Russel's, as is his big time throw rate. easier to be accurate when short passes are happening a lot more often. The passing accuracy and on target stats also don't seem to support your statement.

 

[wgoldsph]

I'm the opposite of the thinking on Wilson apparently. He put up great numbers with fricken Mike White at QB, image how he could do with just a low end starter throwing him the ball.

I think Fields locks onto him and Wilson finally breaks into the elites

Fields will target Wilson... but with the most in-accurate NFL Balls in the league. Not looking forward to this.

Fields <<<<<<<<<<<< Mike White.

 

[eighsse2]

I'm the opposite of the thinking on Wilson apparently. He put up great numbers with fricken Mike White at QB, image how he could do with just a low end starter throwing him the ball.

I think Fields locks onto him and Wilson finally breaks into the elites

Fields will target Wilson... but with the most in-accurate NFL Balls in the league. Not looking forward to this.

Fields <<<<<<<<<<<< Mike White.

I think you mean >>>>>>>>>>>>. But also seems a few too many >'s.