WR Jakobi Meyers, LV (28 Viewers)

[FGITLOTR]

anywhere but vegas

 

[WhoCares]

Would love to see him traded.

LV was as dumb with Meyers as SF was with Jennings. Either pay them or get something for them.

Jennings is probably being asked about by the same teams asking about Meyers. Jennings most likely tanked his value/appeal after his shouting match with shanny and then saying he’s got 5 broken ribs, 4 ankle sprains, went deaf in one ear, glaucoma, and explosive diarrhea.

Meyers is the best WR (possibly) on the market.

 

[Faust]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

 

[KellysHeroes]

I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.

Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.

That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.

The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal

I'm certain KH knows that.

you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.

He was WR 12 in receptions last year with Adams there for 6 weeks, Bowers beasting out (only 1 more TD) and having Minshew/O'Connell as his QBs. He was substatially better than DK Metcalf, among other top names WRs, IRL and fantasy last year. DK just scored something like $30 million a year? Jakobi's underpaid but probably doesn't have much leverage since, much like experts in the FF community, nobody thinks he's actually a really good WR.

How's this looking BTW?

 

[ericttspikes]

I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.

Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.

That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.

The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal

I'm certain KH knows that.

you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.

He was WR 12 in receptions last year with Adams there for 6 weeks, Bowers beasting out (only 1 more TD) and having Minshew/O'Connell as his QBs. He was substatially better than DK Metcalf, among other top names WRs, IRL and fantasy last year. DK just scored something like $30 million a year? Jakobi's underpaid but probably doesn't have much leverage since, much like experts in the FF community, nobody thinks he's actually a really good WR.

How's this looking BTW?

He's a good WR in a bad situation. I don't think Bowers and Jeanty are bums, do you? Looks like all Raiders are underperforming. Still like Meyers a lot and hope he gets traded. Was pretty hopeful that coaching changes and Geno would elevate the O, but that didn't happen. Maybe Aden O'Connell wasn't so bad after all?

 

[Bronco Billy]

I completely side with Meyers. He is underpaid and should get more, but roughly 10 days before the season starts is a horrible time to demand a trade. He needs to go Jerry McGuire this season and play out his ****ty contract and earn a better one for next year.

Do you feel he's over-performed his 34 mil contract?

Yes.

The guy signed a deal 2 YEARS AGO!, and it was a short deal so he could get to Free Agency in his prime... sorry but this one just smells of greed. Play out your final year, if you get Tagged then so be it and cash the 30 million dollar Franchise Tag check and become a FA at age 30. that doesn't sound so bad at all.

That's not how NFL contracts work and I'm pretty sure you know that.

And no one wants to play under the franchise tag no matter how much it might look like. A sweet payday to people like us who've likely never seen $30 million in one year.

so he's not going to make $33 Million in 3 yrs? I'm confused.

And yes, I get they don't want to be Tagged... but at some point when you start talking about a projected $28 million guaranteed for a yr and THEN he gets a chance to earn a final contract as a Free Agent... I mean thats a lot of money, no offense.. but we're not talking about CeeBee lamb here, but thats a LOT of money for a guy at the talent level of Meyers.

The going rate for productive WR1’s is $30M a year. Not $11M. With the lack of guaranteed money in the last year of most contracts and the risk of injury he has every right to get his bag now. That’s the way it’s done. You don’t wait for contracts with expiring guaranteed money to end before signing a new deal

I'm certain KH knows that.

you guys are pitching me softballs here
Please define "productive" and what an NFL WR1 is

Meyers signed in 2023 for $33 mil after a so/so career start in New England, being that D Adams was still on the Raiders that yr I do feel that yr 1 of that $33M was an Overpaid
2024 Adams left about a quarter of the way through the season making Meyers defector WR1 during the rest of the season but still barely broke 1,000 years, and in actually Bowers become the #1 receiving option.
Now its yr 3/final yr of his deal at $11M a yr; what has he done to say he deserves more? Bowers and Jeanty are the focal point of the offense. This isn't the team that drafted him and asked him to shut up and color like Washington did with Terry; this is the team he went to in Free Agency 2 yrs ago, gave him a short term deal so he could cash out again in his prime and so far he's only given them 1,800 yards an a couple of TDs.

He was WR 12 in receptions last year with Adams there for 6 weeks, Bowers beasting out (only 1 more TD) and having Minshew/O'Connell as his QBs. He was substatially better than DK Metcalf, among other top names WRs, IRL and fantasy last year. DK just scored something like $30 million a year? Jakobi's underpaid but probably doesn't have much leverage since, much like experts in the FF community, nobody thinks he's actually a really good WR.

How's this looking BTW?

He's a good WR in a bad situation. I don't think Bowers and Jeanty are bums, do you? Looks like all Raiders are underperforming. Still like Meyers a lot and hope he gets traded. Was pretty hopeful that coaching changes and Geno would elevate the O, but that didn't happen. Maybe Aden O'Connell wasn't so bad after all?

Yes, yes he is.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

 

[Bronco Billy]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

His current cap hit for 2025 is $14.5M in the last year of his contract. $4.5M of that LV has to eat because it was bonus related. Then prorate his salary so far this season and he’d cost his new team +/- $5-$6M. Almost every team in the league has that room and the few who don’t could likely create it.

The one real sticking point could be a demand that his current contract is extended or rewritten by what would be his new team. No idea if that’s the case.

 

[msudaisy26]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

 

[msudaisy26]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

 

[Bronco Billy]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

 

[msudaisy26]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

 

[Faust]

Jordan Schultz
Sources: Multiple teams have shown interest in trading for #Raiders WR Jakobi Meyers, who’s in the final year of his contract and has publicly said he still wants to be traded.

However, teams have had a hard time getting a clear read on whether Las Vegas is truly willing to move him. The belief is it would take at least a Day 2 pick for the Raiders to even consider it.

https://x.com/schultz_report/status/1982870222571724951?s=61

 

[Chaka]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

According to Spotrac:

Buffalo currently has $1.8 mil in cap space. Clearing $3-5 mil doesn't seem insurmountable.

Pittsburgh has almost $16 mil in cap space.

Those are the two teams probably most likely in the market for a WR.

 

[LawFitz]

"belief is it would take at least a Day 2 pick for the Raiders to even consider it."

Given the financial market for WR, this could be true if the Raiders are projecting a high(ish) dollar FA contract for Meyers this coming offseason, which would then result in a 3rd-4th rd comp pick in 2027... I don't think that projection is unreasonable, but if they don't trade him now, they better start using him a lot more if they want to manifest that contract this offseason. Otherwise, he may be looking at 1 yr prove it offers, making this negotiating stance naught.

 

[msudaisy26]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

According to Spotrac:

Buffalo currently has $1.8 mil in cap space. Clearing $3-5 mil doesn't seem insurmountable.

Pittsburgh has almost $16 mil in cap space.

Those are the two teams probably most likely in the market for a WR.

My bad on the Steelers, but I was not going through every team to see how easily they could make space. The point still stands that their isn’t a huge market for him, but it isn't because of his contract or play.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

 

[Chaka]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

According to Spotrac:

Buffalo currently has $1.8 mil in cap space. Clearing $3-5 mil doesn't seem insurmountable.

Pittsburgh has almost $16 mil in cap space.

Those are the two teams probably most likely in the market for a WR.

My bad on the Steelers, but I was not going through every team to see how easily they could make space. The point still stands that their isn’t a huge market for him, but it isn't because of his contract or play.

I agree but, there isn't a huge market for anyone really. I don't think the market size is as significant as market competition and resource availability.

There aren't a ton of guys available at any position and, fewer with Jakobi's production and friendly contract combination.

Jakobi is a scarce resource. And it only takes two teams to create market competition.

IMO the Steelers who, IIRC have stated they are in the market for a WR2 make the most sense. I could see them having interest in Shahid too. He's a lesser overall receiver than Jakobi but he has true field stretching speed.

The Bills, I believe, have also said they are in the market on some level but, from my perspective I imagine they are looking for a real WR1 which, Jakobi isn't although, he can approximate one occasionally. BTJ makes more sense for them IMO but, the price is probably too steep.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Was hoping he'd be moved by now.

 

[msudaisy26]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

Looks like you are more than a bit misinformed. More than 2/3rds of Meyers’ snaps over the past 2 season have been from the outside.

Slot receiver Jakobi Meyers versus boundary receiver Jakobi Meyers

Is the veteran wideout more efficient on the inside or outside?

www.silverandblackpride.com

 

[Chaka]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

This is pretty much my feeling but, they unquestionably need WR help and, Jakobi is a better playher than Shakir & Kincaid (I don't consider Knox a part of this equation, in this respect he's more J.A.G.). And, there aren't many options available that are clearly better so, I wouldn't count them out of the Jakobi market just yet.

 

[Chaka]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

Looks like you are more than a bit misinformed. More than 2/3rds of Meyers’ snaps over the past 2 season have been from the outside.

Slot receiver Jakobi Meyers versus boundary receiver Jakobi Meyers

Is the veteran wideout more efficient on the inside or outside?

www.silverandblackpride.com

I think we all agree he has been miscast as the Raiders WR1 since Davante left. He's capable of holding down the fort for awhile but, you don't want him in that role long term.

 

[FGITLOTR]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

This is pretty much my feeling but, they unquestionably need WR help and, Jakobi is a better playher than Shakir & Kincaid (I don't consider Knox a part of this equation, in this respect he's more J.A.G.). And, there aren't many options available that are clearly better so, I wouldn't count them out of the Jakobi market just yet.

this is where I land--Buffalo makes a ton of sense

 

[msudaisy26]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

Looks like you are more than a bit misinformed. More than 2/3rds of Meyers’ snaps over the past 2 season have been from the outside.

Slot receiver Jakobi Meyers versus boundary receiver Jakobi Meyers

Is the veteran wideout more efficient on the inside or outside?

www.silverandblackpride.com

I am not talking about where he lines up. I am talking about where he operates. Which is the middle of the field he isn't George Pickens.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'll kiss every cows butt in Minnesota if Meyers isn't traded to the Steelers.

 

[msudaisy26]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

This is pretty much my feeling but, they unquestionably need WR help and, Jakobi is a better playher than Shakir & Kincaid (I don't consider Knox a part of this equation, in this respect he's more J.A.G.). And, there aren't many options available that are clearly better so, I wouldn't count them out of the Jakobi market just yet.

Agree to disagree. I think Shakir is better at this point and he doesn't play tight end.

 

[FGITLOTR]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

This is pretty much my feeling but, they unquestionably need WR help and, Jakobi is a better playher than Shakir & Kincaid (I don't consider Knox a part of this equation, in this respect he's more J.A.G.). And, there aren't many options available that are clearly better so, I wouldn't count them out of the Jakobi market just yet.

Agree to disagree. I think Shakir is better at this point and he doesn't play tight end.

Meyers>>>>>>>>>>Shakir it's not close

 

[fatness]

I'll kiss every cows butt in Minnesota if Meyers isn't traded to the Steelers.

On what streaming service can we watch this?

 

[JohnnyU]

I'll kiss every cows butt in Minnesota if Meyers isn't traded to the Steelers.

On what streaming service can we watch this?

I expect total trust in me alone.

 

[Chaka]

Sleeper alert: Fowler reporting the Bills, Steelers & Broncos are interested in Jakobi.

 

[Chaka]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

This is pretty much my feeling but, they unquestionably need WR help and, Jakobi is a better playher than Shakir & Kincaid (I don't consider Knox a part of this equation, in this respect he's more J.A.G.). And, there aren't many options available that are clearly better so, I wouldn't count them out of the Jakobi market just yet.

Agree to disagree. I think Shakir is better at this point and he doesn't play tight end.

LOL Myers has Geno Smith on the worst team in football and has played one fewer game and Khalil has capitalized to the tune of 2 more receptions and 28 more yards.

 

[msudaisy26]

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

This is pretty much my feeling but, they unquestionably need WR help and, Jakobi is a better playher than Shakir & Kincaid (I don't consider Knox a part of this equation, in this respect he's more J.A.G.). And, there aren't many options available that are clearly better

Underdog NFL
Jakobi Meyers on if he still wants to be traded:

"For sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1980730928495300984?s=61

I think that contract is going to knock a lot of teams out of trade talks, base salary of 10 million I think

That’s pretty inexpensive given what he brings to the table.

He wants us to think it is because of the salary and it isn't. Half the teams aren't adding, so 16 left at least half of those teams don't need a wr, so now we are down to 8 or less. Half of those teams don't have cap room to really add anyone. So really Meyers has 2 to 5 landing spots with other wr also on the block.

You’re saying that Meyers isn’t as good as the WR3 on half the teams in the NFL?

How in the world did you come up with that?

Because in your dubious scenario, the half the NFL that would look at adding ought to be considering a talent like Meyers at his cost compared to their WR3.

So, let me ask you the same. How exactly did you come up with the numbers you proposed? Only 4 teams currently don’t have at least $5M in cap space and every one of those 4 has at least $2.5 in cap space, meaning clearing another $2.5-$3.5M for those 4 put them in the hunt as well.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap

ETA - and currently 19 teams are either currently in line for a playoff spot or within 1.0 games of one. If you include being only 1 loss out that goes to 21 teams.

Are you serious?

Pats - interested
Bills - no cap space
Jets ans Dolphins - out of it
Steelers - no cap space
Bengals aren't in the market
Browns out of it
Ravens could be out of it, but also not looking for a wr
Chiefs - not in the market
Chargers - not in the market
Broncos maybe, but in division trades are more rare
Colts - not in market
Jags - not in market
Texans - not in the market
Titans - out of it
Eagles - not in the market
Cowboys- not in the market
Commanders - not in the market
Giants- maybe,but doubtful they are kind of out it
Lions - not in market
Packers - not in the market for this type of wr
Vikings - not in the market
Bears - not in the market
Bucs - maybe
Saints - out of it
Falcons not in market maybe out of it
Panthees - out of it
Seahawks - maybe
49ers - not in the market
Cardinals - out of it
Rams - depends on Puka injury.

That is maybe 6 teams and you have rumors of Shaheed, Olave, Waddle etc. This isn't a video game.

That’s a pretty poorly laid out analysis IMO. For example, the Bills and Steelers absolutely ought to be interested and would easily fit his prorated current contract in.

But if you are taking the worst case position to fit your argument, I guess it makes sense to you.

The biggest hurdle right now seems to be the LV asking price. They’ll get more reasonable - I’d guess - as the deadline gets closer.

Well to you it isn't because you think half the league is interested in him, like you are playing a video game and just trade for him and boost your rating.

I actually still believe the Bills aren't interested. They already have three players that occupy the space Meyers works in. Shakir and both tight ends. Plus the Bills don't have a ton of cap space and have bigger needs.

This is pretty much my feeling but, they unquestionably need WR help and, Jakobi is a better playher than Shakir & Kincaid (I don't consider Knox a part of this equation, in this respect he's more J.A.G.). And, there aren't many options available that are clearly better so, I wouldn't count them out of the Jakobi market just yet.

Agree to disagree. I think Shakir is better at this point and he doesn't play tight end.

LOL Myers has Geno Smith on the worst team in football and has played one fewer game and Khalil has capitalized to the tune of 2 more receptions and 28 more yards.

Weren't you the one arguing situation doesn't tell you how good the player is?

Barkely is averaging a half yard less per carry in a better offense and only has like 50 more rush yards and 50 less total yard while playing in one more game than D'Andre Swift. Are you saying Swift is better too?

 

[Chaka]

Weren't you the one arguing situation doesn't tell you how good the player is?

Was I? Doesn't sound like something I said.

I'm pretty sure I believe that the quality of the QB throwing the ball has a pretty big impact on the guys catching the ball.

 

[SayWhat?]

Traded to the Jags.

 

[Insein]

I wonder how hurt BTJ is then.

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1985746141321765283?t=1Z_eLGkLckV3TrjMhx4flw&s=19

 

[Payne]

Steelers dropped the ball here.

 

[FarFromHome]

Well. The Parker Washington ride was fun. Ha ha

 

[steelwind]

I don't think it's a reflection of BTJ's injury.
Trevor + BTJ aren't compatible.
I think Jakobi's route running + technique is a better fit to be the WR1 here.

 

[doeseatplace]

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

Jacksonville Jaguars trade for Las Vegas Raiders WR Jakobi Meyers​

The Jacksonville Jaguars are getting receiver help after a slew of injuries rained down on the room in recent weeks.

Jacksonville will send a 2026 fourth and sixth-round picks to the Las Vegas Raiders in exchange for receiver Jakobi Meyers, a league source confirmed to the Times-Union on Tuesday. ESPN was first to report the news.

The deal comes just after Jacksonville faced off against Meyers in the team’s 30-29 overtime win on Sunday. The Jaguars made the move just ahead of the NFL’s Nov. 4 trade deadline (4 p.m. ET).

Meyers, 28, has played seven seasons in the NFL, including the last three with the Raiders. He was originally signed as an undrafted free agent out of North Carolina State by the New England Patriots following the 2019 NFL Draft.

In Sunday’s game, Meyers caught four passes on six targets for 23 yards.

In his career, Meyers has caught 426 passes for 4,944 yards and 20 touchdowns. This season, he has 33 catches for 352 yards.

Ahead of Sunday’s game, the Jaguars placed rookie receiver/cornerback Travis Hunter on injured reserve due to a knee injury. During the game, both Brian Thomas Jr. and Dyami Brown exited the contest due to injuries.

Veteran receiver Tim Patrick was ruled out for Sunday’s game due to a groin injury.

At one point, the Jaguars were down to just three receivers, including Austin Trammell, Tim Jones and Parker Washington. Jones and Trammell were on the team’s practice squad days before the game. Trammell was signed to the active roster, while Jones was elevated for the contest.

Meyers will only help the group continue to grow as they get healthy.

 

[menobrown]

I don't think it's a reflection of BTJ's injury.
Trevor + BTJ aren't compatible.
I think Jakobi's route running + technique is a better fit to be the WR1 here.

Really? I've never looked at Jakobi and thought he's anything close to WR1 material.

Just an ok player to me, solid WR2 real life player at best IMO.

Very difficult to acclimate to a new team in the middle of the season but he does work the areas of the field and that Trevor likes to use, so could be productive if he can acclimate.

I absolutely would not be giving up on Parker Washington.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

OK some quick winners and losers off the top of my head:

Winners

• Meyers -- not a huge upgrade, but TLaw >>> 2025 Geno (and Cohen >>> Chip Kelly)
• Bowers -- not that he needed a boost, but may return to 2024-level target shares
• Other LV WRs -- I guess Tucker? Maybe this opens things up for Besch/Thornton to finally emerge? I'll admit I have paid very little attention to the back of the Raiders WR depth chart. Certainly no obvious pickups; anyone you do get will likely just be a dart throw on a bad offense

Losers

• BTJ -- not only competition for target share, but possible indication his injury is worse than what we've heard so far
• Washington -- Probably kills his chance of being their WR1 (in terms of target share). On the other hand, he seems like a classic case of a guy who can do well if he's not the defense's focus, but can't hold up if they assign their CB1 or gameplan around him

Don't think this significantly moves the needle for TLaw, Geno, or either team's RBs

 

[Crash Davis]

OK some quick winners and losers off the top of my head:

Winners

• Meyers -- not a huge upgrade, but TLaw >>> 2025 Geno (and Cohen >>> Chip Kelly)
• Bowers -- not that he needed a boost, but may return to 2024-level target shares
• Other LV WRs -- I guess Tucker? Maybe this opens things up for Besch/Thornton to finally emerge? I'll admit I have paid very little attention to the back of the Raiders WR depth chart. Certainly no obvious pickups; anyone you do get will likely just be a dart throw on a bad offense

Losers

• BTJ -- not only competition for target share, but possible indication his injury is worse than what we've heard so far
• Washington -- Probably kills his chance of being their WR1 (in terms of target share). On the other hand, he seems like a classic case of a guy who can do well if he's not the defense's focus, but can't hold up if they assign their CB1 or gameplan around him

Don't think this significantly moves the needle for TLaw, Geno, or either team's RBs

It could also mean that Hunter's injury is as serious as many feared and that he isn't coming back when eligible.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

OK some quick winners and losers off the top of my head:

Winners

• Meyers -- not a huge upgrade, but TLaw >>> 2025 Geno (and Cohen >>> Chip Kelly)
• Bowers -- not that he needed a boost, but may return to 2024-level target shares
• Other LV WRs -- I guess Tucker? Maybe this opens things up for Besch/Thornton to finally emerge? I'll admit I have paid very little attention to the back of the Raiders WR depth chart. Certainly no obvious pickups; anyone you do get will likely just be a dart throw on a bad offense

Losers

• BTJ -- not only competition for target share, but possible indication his injury is worse than what we've heard so far
• Washington -- Probably kills his chance of being their WR1 (in terms of target share). On the other hand, he seems like a classic case of a guy who can do well if he's not the defense's focus, but can't hold up if they assign their CB1 or gameplan around him

Don't think this significantly moves the needle for TLaw, Geno, or either team's RBs

It could also mean that Hunter's injury is as serious as many feared and that he isn't coming back when eligible.

Good point. But in terms of redraft strategy, not sure if there's anything a Hunter manager should do differently based on this information. (Then again, as a BTJ manager, not like I'm doing anything differently with him, either)

 

[Chaka]

Rest assured Trevor will send him to IR in short order with his patented hospital balls.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'll kiss every cows butt in Minnesota if Meyers isn't traded to the Steelers.

I suppose I have to pucker up and go buy some chapstick.

 

[menobrown]

OK some quick winners and losers off the top of my head:

Winners

• Meyers -- not a huge upgrade, but TLaw >>> 2025 Geno (and Cohen >>> Chip Kelly)
• Bowers -- not that he needed a boost, but may return to 2024-level target shares
• Other LV WRs -- I guess Tucker? Maybe this opens things up for Besch/Thornton to finally emerge? I'll admit I have paid very little attention to the back of the Raiders WR depth chart. Certainly no obvious pickups; anyone you do get will likely just be a dart throw on a bad offense

Losers

• BTJ -- not only competition for target share, but possible indication his injury is worse than what we've heard so far
• Washington -- Probably kills his chance of being their WR1 (in terms of target share). On the other hand, he seems like a classic case of a guy who can do well if he's not the defense's focus, but can't hold up if they assign their CB1 or gameplan around him

Don't think this significantly moves the needle for TLaw, Geno, or either team's RBs

It could also mean that Hunter's injury is as serious as many feared and that he isn't coming back when eligible.

Tweet below, my commentary is if he does come back healthy he's probably the biggest loser of the trade.

https://x.com/search?q=hunter&src=typed_query&f=live&pf=on

Travis Hunter is not expected to be out long-term for the #Jaguars, though he is out at least 3 more games. He'll be back to contribute in the pass game, as well.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

OK some quick winners and losers off the top of my head:

Winners

• Meyers -- not a huge upgrade, but TLaw >>> 2025 Geno (and Cohen >>> Chip Kelly)
• Bowers -- not that he needed a boost, but may return to 2024-level target shares
• Other LV WRs -- I guess Tucker? Maybe this opens things up for Besch/Thornton to finally emerge? I'll admit I have paid very little attention to the back of the Raiders WR depth chart. Certainly no obvious pickups; anyone you do get will likely just be a dart throw on a bad offense

Losers

• BTJ -- not only competition for target share, but possible indication his injury is worse than what we've heard so far
• Washington -- Probably kills his chance of being their WR1 (in terms of target share). On the other hand, he seems like a classic case of a guy who can do well if he's not the defense's focus, but can't hold up if they assign their CB1 or gameplan around him

Don't think this significantly moves the needle for TLaw, Geno, or either team's RBs

It could also mean that Hunter's injury is as serious as many feared and that he isn't coming back when eligible.

Tweet below, my commentary is if he does come back healthy he's probably the biggest loser of the trade.

https://x.com/search?q=hunter&src=typed_query&f=live&pf=on

Travis Hunter is not expected to be out long-term for the #Jaguars, though he is out at least 3 more games. He'll be back to contribute in the pass game, as well.

Could be, although if he comes back healthy and they decide they want to see what they have in their No. 2 overall pick for whom they gave up a crap ton of draft capital, I don't think Jakobi Meyers is going to be the thing that stands in his way

 

[warpig33]

Trevor Lawrence is garbage. I don't think he's that much better than Geno. Trevor doesn't turn the ball over as much as Geno, but Geno is able to sling the ball and send it down range. Meyers will find out having Lawrence as his QB is frustrating to say the least and will be crying to be traded (again) within no time. With that said, Jacksonville gave up a decent pick to acquire him. I assume they have grown tired of BTJ already? Wish they would trade BTJ now and try to recoup some of the picks they coughed up for Hunter (and now Meyers).