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WR Jalen McMillan, TB (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
37/460/8TD as a rookie learning on the fly and filling in for an injured Godwin
I don't expect Godwin to have the same pop this season and Mike Evans will continue to keep his role in the offense
Bucs don't really have a great TE that is the bonafide 3rd option so a 3rd WR still stands to benefit greatly in this offense.
I would hold although it's not a ringing endorsement they took a WR in the 1st
I think it has more to do with 2026, Bucs still have some holes in the Secondary and needed another DT to go with Vita Vea, they didn't do any of that
I think they want to move forward with Baker, he's only signed thru '26 right now
Baker stays but there will be a new set of WRs in Tampa over the next 2-3 seasons, McMillan is part of that and has a chance to be a starter for the Bucs
He will also see time on the field when Evans or Godwin misses time which they will as they keep aging
I don't expect Godwin to have the same pop this season and Mike Evans will continue to keep his role in the offense
Bucs don't really have a great TE that is the bonafide 3rd option so a 3rd WR still stands to benefit greatly in this offense.
I would hold although it's not a ringing endorsement they took a WR in the 1st
I think it has more to do with 2026, Bucs still have some holes in the Secondary and needed another DT to go with Vita Vea, they didn't do any of that
I think they want to move forward with Baker, he's only signed thru '26 right now
Baker stays but there will be a new set of WRs in Tampa over the next 2-3 seasons, McMillan is part of that and has a chance to be a starter for the Bucs
He will also see time on the field when Evans or Godwin misses time which they will as they keep aging
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
General projections:
Evans is your 1,100 and 10 guy
Godwin your 1,000 and 8 guy
McMillan/Egbuka are your 600 and 6 guys
They’ll all get reps and targets. Mike only plays about 70% of the snaps even when he’s healthy.
If one of them is out the other three are all startable.
Evans is your 1,100 and 10 guy
Godwin your 1,000 and 8 guy
McMillan/Egbuka are your 600 and 6 guys
They’ll all get reps and targets. Mike only plays about 70% of the snaps even when he’s healthy.
If one of them is out the other three are all startable.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Not as bullish on Chris Godwin this season
I don't see him hitting 1,000 yds with decent young talent coming up the ranks
Egbuka is not going to be sitting on the bench for long
I wasn't sure what to make of him at first but Licht didn't draft him for just 2026, he's going to have him involved early and often
Godwin and his usual number of starts season to season
14-12-14-13-17(High water mark in '23) then just 7 last season, I am not penciling him in for 16-17, think 12-14 is a better estimate
I think both young WRs for the Bucs could see themselves in bigger roles at times this season.
Egbuka is no burner but that's not really the Bucs or Baker's strength. He is going to fit right in on the 10-20 yard routes the Bucs like to dial up.
I am concerned about a change at the OC, hopefully that's a smooth transition.
John Grizzard was the pass game coordinator, maybe he was the real brains of the operation. They simply promoted him to OC, hope he's a good play caller
Tampa ran 11 personnel I believe a league high 78% of the snaps. If anyone is their clear cut WR3 they are essentially starters.
I'm not a projection person just to chime in the key for McMillan or Egbuka, at least while everyone is available, is if one of them seizes control of being that clear third WR or if it will be more of a rotation/situation thing among both of rendering them fairly useless.
I'm not a projection person just to chime in the key for McMillan or Egbuka, at least while everyone is available, is if one of them seizes control of being that clear third WR or if it will be more of a rotation/situation thing among both of rendering them fairly useless.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I'm really leaning towards one of them being the clear cut starter and the other not. Not sure who, gun to my head I'd guess Egbuka, but wouldn't be surprised if it's McMillan either. But ultimately one will be better than the other, and whoever is better will get the lions share. Games are too few and too important to be playing around with shared snaps and/or getting guys "real game experience"; especially when you're a playoff contender. It would stink for the guy left out because you could probably throw them on half the other rosters in the league and they'd be getting starters snap share. Don't see too many teams splitting WR workloads like they do other other positions unless they are just lacking in talent altogether. Well except maybe GB, but that isn't working out too well for them hah. (and it would probably be fair to challenge they fit my previous "lacking in talent altogether" assertion).
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Meno, for those playing at home, sounds like 11-personnel is code for 2-WR sets that wouldn't' involve the 3rd and 4th WR as often, am I reading that correctly?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Jalen McMillan
37/460/8TD
He had 7 TDs between weeks 14 thru 18, that 5-week run which we typically value and weight heavy going into the following season
-The fly in the ointment is the Bucs went ahead and drafted a WR in the 1st round
Jalen was taken late 3rd with Pick #92, still a Top 100 pick but I don't believe the Bucs ever envisioned him as their starting WR
I'm trying to be fair because I feel strongly Egbuka is already ahead of him on the depth charts, just my opinion based on what I see around the internet
Won't know anything for sure until camps open and we see some actual practices and what the Bucs are planning to run.
McMillan racked up a lot of TDs, that doesn't seem as likely this season
In 2026/2027, things will be different but I also thinkt he Bucs could draft another WR in the 1st or 2nd next year if they feel they need it or worry about the end of Evans and Godwin
Somewhat fluid right now in the 3rd and 4th slots for the Bucs
37/460/8TD
He had 7 TDs between weeks 14 thru 18, that 5-week run which we typically value and weight heavy going into the following season
-The fly in the ointment is the Bucs went ahead and drafted a WR in the 1st round
Jalen was taken late 3rd with Pick #92, still a Top 100 pick but I don't believe the Bucs ever envisioned him as their starting WR
I'm trying to be fair because I feel strongly Egbuka is already ahead of him on the depth charts, just my opinion based on what I see around the internet
Won't know anything for sure until camps open and we see some actual practices and what the Bucs are planning to run.
McMillan racked up a lot of TDs, that doesn't seem as likely this season
In 2026/2027, things will be different but I also thinkt he Bucs could draft another WR in the 1st or 2nd next year if they feel they need it or worry about the end of Evans and Godwin
Somewhat fluid right now in the 3rd and 4th slots for the Bucs
I mix it up sometimes myself but 11 personnel involves lining up with 3 WR’s.
First number always means amount of RB’s, second number is for how many TE’s line up
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm glad I asked, that's good news for the 3rd and 4th WRs on the Bucs, sounds like they will get a lot of snaps
My money right now is on Egbuka but Jalen has a full year head start on him
It feels wild that McMillan had such a big ending to his rookie season and the Bucs still went WR in the 1st
A rather weak WR class to many especially in the 1st round
It's a tough thing to predict, at least for me.
First round draft capital is not playing around but in a post draft presser Licht said he had 4 unicorns at WR and listed the top 4 by name so it's not like McMillan is out of favor.
I was thinking more along the lines of it might depend on how they line up and what are they asking them all to do. For example if Godwin's going to be the primary slot guy, would one of them be better as the Z but possibly the other one better in the slot when they move Godwin outside. That kind of thing.
The odd thing about every non-Evans WR is they can all play outside, but the other three of them are probably all better from the slot. In Godwin's case we've moved past probably, we know he's a lot better from the slot.
This is where I think McMillan might hav edge because he only played in the slot 21% last year, but I don't know the production breakdown.
Yes it was not Michael Penix level of shocking but surprised me. Licht is so good though, I feel like I'm the one missing the big picture if I'm criticizing him, he's for sure earned benefit of the doubt status.
Aznflyer14
Footballguy
Saw Matt Harmon's podcast on Egbuka and he thinks Buccaneers took him as eventual replacement for Mike Evans. I know it's such blasphemy to think such thing but Harmon mentioned Egbuka's route is also Evans' best route. Which is the one that is highly favored by Mayfield. And not to discount Evans' slight propensity of getting dinged up.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Evans missed 3 full games last year
Godwin missed over half the season
I wouldn't try and justify which Bucs Wide Receiver is sitting at No 3 right now
Bucs run 3-WR sets a lot as Meno pointed out
Evans and Egbuka on the outside with Godwin in the slot and McMillan coming in for 4 WR sets on 3rd down and also will be giving the old men at WR a breather more often this year
Bucs have depth and young talent at WR, they're gonna use it
Evans still is really good but he's not the same as 5 years ago, still an incredible target in the redzone/end zone, 23 TDs over the past 2 seasons w/Baker as the Bucs QB
Godwin missed over half the season
I wouldn't try and justify which Bucs Wide Receiver is sitting at No 3 right now
Bucs run 3-WR sets a lot as Meno pointed out
Evans and Egbuka on the outside with Godwin in the slot and McMillan coming in for 4 WR sets on 3rd down and also will be giving the old men at WR a breather more often this year
Bucs have depth and young talent at WR, they're gonna use it
Evans still is really good but he's not the same as 5 years ago, still an incredible target in the redzone/end zone, 23 TDs over the past 2 seasons w/Baker as the Bucs QB
Grahamburn
Footballguy
They’re running pretty much the exact same playbook with Grizzard. Same scheme. He was the 3rd down and passing game coordinator.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I think folks have buried him too quickly with the drafting of Egbuka.
Dude looked like he belonged last year. I traded up 5 picks to grab him late in a start-up. Godwin coming off major injury, Mike Evans is 32 with a history of soft tissue injuries. And even if both are up to form/stay healthy this year, I don’t think either will be around too much longer.
This dude screams value in dynasty leagues. If either Godwin or Evans goes down he’ll have some redraft juice as well.
Dude looked like he belonged last year. I traded up 5 picks to grab him late in a start-up. Godwin coming off major injury, Mike Evans is 32 with a history of soft tissue injuries. And even if both are up to form/stay healthy this year, I don’t think either will be around too much longer.
This dude screams value in dynasty leagues. If either Godwin or Evans goes down he’ll have some redraft juice as well.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yep - way too much is being overblown about Coen’s departure (no “h”).
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I agree, great buy low based on aging vets and their first round pick.
Agree and I think it's premature to assume Egbuka beat him out for the third WR job which is part of the reason I think he's also a value in redraft, not a great one, but a solid one.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s a good point as well.
I was looking at him in the start-up & after chatting with @Gally I started looking at him closer - from the camp reports of him looking stronger/crisper in his routes to coaches comments, I wouldn’t at all be shocked to see him as the starting WR in 3 receiver sets.
Gally was very high on him & I’m appreciative of the nudge.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree but I also get a little Jahan Dotson vibes of a rookie being boosted by a high TD rate
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
For whatever reason Baker likes to throw to him. So that elevates him slightly over the Dotson situation IMO.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Oh he's got to be better than Dotson
Ilov80s
Footballguy
In wonder what the ADP between Dotson Y2 and McMillan Y2 looks likeOh he's got to be better than Dotson
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dotson much higher IIRC. McMillan is like 188 right now.
I remember Dotson being a fairly high draft pick year 2. The Egbuka pick really threw cold water on McMillan’s redraft value.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Oh wow I did not realize McMillan was going that late. Oh well then I am in at that price.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s FFPC main event.
SF startup he’s 162
I was able to pick him at 16.05 (186) in my SF start-up. Egbuka went significantly earlier at 6.11
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I expect that ADP to rise with camp reports if McMillan is indeed the WR3.
I was a big Egbuka fan in the draft, and do believe he has a bright future. But most of the stuff I’ve read says he’s a year away from relevance.
Who knows how precient that is, but this feels like a big over correction.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Looks like Godwin is starting on PUP.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
With the latest Godwin news, I can only see opportunity for McMillan.
Buccaneers' OC Grizzard: Jalen McMillan's Momentum Continues - Bucs Report
As the Tampa Bay Buccaneers gear up for training camp next week, all eyes will be on the receiving corps. Key questions surround Chris Godwin
bucsreport.com
jm192
Footballguy
Yup. Move him way up. Re-draft and dynasty.
Evans is 32 or about to be 32. He's one of the best ever, but father time always wins. Will it be this year? Not saying it will. But it wouldn't be the 1st time a WR fell off at 32.
Godwin has his injury situation.
I think for now it's Evans and Egbuka with McMillan being the #3. But the #3 in this offense has value. And he's that much closer to consistent usage with Godwin being less than 100%.
Dynasty wise, it seems like the smoothest transition TB could have asked for. Godwin and Evans run it back. We'll eventually see a changing of the guard where McMill and Egbuka take over as the starting WR's. Baker continues to profit.
Evans is 32 or about to be 32. He's one of the best ever, but father time always wins. Will it be this year? Not saying it will. But it wouldn't be the 1st time a WR fell off at 32.
Godwin has his injury situation.
I think for now it's Evans and Egbuka with McMillan being the #3. But the #3 in this offense has value. And he's that much closer to consistent usage with Godwin being less than 100%.
Dynasty wise, it seems like the smoothest transition TB could have asked for. Godwin and Evans run it back. We'll eventually see a changing of the guard where McMill and Egbuka take over as the starting WR's. Baker continues to profit.
