WR Jameson Williams, DET (2 Viewers)

[Lansdowne]

There’s a new #1 in Detroit

Spoiler: ETA

I mean he changed his jersey number from 9 to 1 (might have been 18 preseason rookie year)

That clip was from today’s OTAs; non-contact 7-on-7 don’t mean nothing, but the man is on another level this year

Because of the 4th preseason game (HoF game), only two weeks of OTAs and veteran minicamp was shelved. They’ll have to start TC a week or two ahead of the other 30 teams in order to be ready to play the Chargers in Canton late July.

#hopespringseternal

I love that he torches the new #9 in that clip. Poetry.

 

[BobbyLayne]

There’s a new #1 in Detroit

Spoiler: ETA

I mean he changed his jersey number from 9 to 1 (might have been 18 preseason rookie year)

That clip was from today’s OTAs; non-contact 7-on-7 don’t mean nothing, but the man is on another level this year

Because of the 4th preseason game (HoF game), only two weeks of OTAs and veteran minicamp was shelved. They’ll have to start TC a week or two ahead of the other 30 teams in order to be ready to play the Chargers in Canton late July.

#hopespringseternal

I love that he torches the new #9 in that clip. Poetry.

Ennis Rakestraw Jr. (Missouri)

2nd round pick last year, barely saw the field due to injuries

early in the pre-draft process he was a Top 30 pick, but meh 40 time (still recovering from 2023 sports hernia) and injury concerns saw him fall

good tape & great traits to play inside or out, but so far it’s Jeff Okudah 2.0

best ability is availability

 

[Faust]

@DetroitPodcast
Jameson Williams has been showcasing improved hands and route-running at the early start of training camp

https://x.com/detroitpodcast/status/1947318953526628609?s=61

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

@DetroitPodcast
Jameson Williams has been showcasing improved hands and route-running at the early start of training camp

https://x.com/detroitpodcast/status/1947318953526628609?s=61

That’s what I wanna see from my WR5.

 

[Ilov80s]

Lions passing game could be insane this year. Amon Ra, Jamo, LaPorta, Gibbs is a heck of a set of weapons for a QB and they all complement each other so well. I think Jamo improves on last season.

 

[travdogg]

Lions passing game could be insane this year. Amon Ra, Jamo, LaPorta, Gibbs is a heck of a set of weapons for a QB and they all complement each other so well. I think Jamo improves on last season.

Just gonna come down to how much Goff can handle interior pressure. That more than anything else is what ran him out of LA. It's very possible he's fixed it with experience, but if the Lions offense falls off a bit, that'll almost certainly be a main reason.

 

[Ilov80s]

Lions passing game could be insane this year. Amon Ra, Jamo, LaPorta, Gibbs is a heck of a set of weapons for a QB and they all complement each other so well. I think Jamo improves on last season.

Just gonna come down to how much Goff can handle interior pressure. That more than anything else is what ran him out of LA. It's very possible he's fixed it with experience, but if the Lions offense falls off a bit, that'll almost certainly be a main reason.

Lions interior OL will certainly be worse this year than last but I think they expected this was coming and have guys they think can play quality football.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Never change, Jamo

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Music to my ears

Jameson Williams reveals how John Morton may unlock another level for him

Jameson Williams had a breakthrough season in 2024, but a new offensive coordinator may unlock even bigger things for him this year.

sidelionreport.com

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Never change, Jamo

Reminds me of the scene in Bull Durham where the mound visit turns into a discussion of wedding gifts.

 

[BobbyLayne]

from Justin Rogers today, Lions beat writer since 2011:

It’s really difficult to explain how improved Jameson Williams looks to start this training camp. His route running is so much more precise, particularly on patterns coming back to the quarterback. He put that ability on full display, easily beating DJ Reed on a hitch route in one-on-one drills.

Williams’ hands also continue to improve. He’s showing them late and snagging the ball off his frame. It’s amazing when you consider the struggles he went through two years ago.

There has been a steady drumbeat throughout the organization since voluntary workouts. From the GM & HC, OC, QB, other WRs - dude has taken his game to another level this offseason. John Morton wants the Lions to attack vertically more in 2025. He's still a goofy kid but embracing a leadership role more this TC.

I could see the regression case for the Lions but Jamo is ascending.

 

[Jail]

from Justin Rogers today, Lions beat writer since 2011:

It’s really difficult to explain how improved Jameson Williams looks to start this training camp. His route running is so much more precise, particularly on patterns coming back to the quarterback. He put that ability on full display, easily beating DJ Reed on a hitch route in one-on-one drills.

Williams’ hands also continue to improve. He’s showing them late and snagging the ball off his frame. It’s amazing when you consider the struggles he went through two years ago.

There has been a steady drumbeat throughout the organization since voluntary workouts. From the GM & HC, OC, QB, other WRs - dude has taken his game to another level this offseason. John Morton wants the Lions to attack vertically more in 2025. He's still a goofy kid but embracing a leadership role more this TC.

I could see the regression case for the Lions but Jamo is ascending.

I like the idea of more vertical passing to Jamo, but it seems like a weird thing to do when you lose 2 premier players at guard and center. Especially with how Goff struggles vs interior pressure. Hopefully he doesn’t try to force something that isn’t going to work.

I’d actually prefer that they get him working on more mid range stuff. Didn’t it feel like it was either deep or short with very little in between? I don’t watch enough Detroit games to know if that’s the case.

 

[Gruden's Keyboard]

There's only a handful of DTs in the league that can threaten pressure up the middle consistently...

 

[darksideofoz]

There's only a handful of DTs in the league that can threaten pressure up the middle consistently...

If only there were a way to have a DE and DT swap places as they rush

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

from Justin Rogers today, Lions beat writer since 2011:

It’s really difficult to explain how improved Jameson Williams looks to start this training camp. His route running is so much more precise, particularly on patterns coming back to the quarterback. He put that ability on full display, easily beating DJ Reed on a hitch route in one-on-one drills.

Williams’ hands also continue to improve. He’s showing them late and snagging the ball off his frame. It’s amazing when you consider the struggles he went through two years ago.

There has been a steady drumbeat throughout the organization since voluntary workouts. From the GM & HC, OC, QB, other WRs - dude has taken his game to another level this offseason. John Morton wants the Lions to attack vertically more in 2025. He's still a goofy kid but embracing a leadership role more this TC.

I could see the regression case for the Lions but Jamo is ascending.

Yeah, I was thrilled to land him 6.09 as my WR4

I’d actually prefer that they get him working on more mid range stuff.

The article I posted yesterday indicated that they’re opening up a sizable route tree for him, including those types of plays - crossing routes, quick hitters, etc.

I’m really excited to see what next level Jamo does. Thrilled to finally have a share at what seems like just the right time.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Never change, Jamo

now the whole squad is weighing in

from Justin Rogers today, Lions beat writer since 2011:

It’s really difficult to explain how improved Jameson Williams looks to start this training camp. His route running is so much more precise, particularly on patterns coming back to the quarterback. He put that ability on full display, easily beating DJ Reed on a hitch route in one-on-one drills.

Williams’ hands also continue to improve. He’s showing them late and snagging the ball off his frame. It’s amazing when you consider the struggles he went through two years ago.

There has been a steady drumbeat throughout the organization since voluntary workouts. From the GM & HC, OC, QB, other WRs - dude has taken his game to another level this offseason. John Morton wants the Lions to attack vertically more in 2025. He's still a goofy kid but embracing a leadership role more this TC.

I could see the regression case for the Lions but Jamo is ascending.

I like the idea of more vertical passing to Jamo, but it seems like a weird thing to do when you lose 2 premier players at guard and center. Especially with how Goff struggles vs interior pressure. Hopefully he doesn’t try to force something that isn’t going to work.

I’d actually prefer that they get him working on more mid range stuff. Didn’t it feel like it was either deep or short with very little in between? I don’t watch enough Detroit games to know if that’s the case.

Actually he’s pretty elite on crossers, especially over the middle routes. Had his highest PFF grade & passer rating on medium stuff. I’ll post some (actual) stats later but I think it’s roughly:

• Deep (20+) 5-243-3 on 16 targets
• Intermediate (10-19) 20- 443 449-3 on 34 targets
• Short (0-9) 24-238-1 on 30 targets
• Behind LoS 9-77-0 10-40-0 on 13 12 targets

On intermediate targets between the hashes he was 13- 343 341-2 on 18 targets. Caught 6 of 9 contested catches on intermediates. He’s skinny but those are strong hands.

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edit:

Passer Rating & PFF Grade by depth of target:

• Deep 94.1 | 80.2
• Intermediate 97.8 | 120.3
• Short 92.2 | 99.7
• Behind LoS 76.3 | 80.6

On intermediate center routes the passer rating was 128.2; on short center routes it was 135.0 (14-215-1 on 18 targets.)

Anyway, there are a lot of mouths to feed, and I think the offense still goes through Amon-Ra. But Jamo should see an uptick in targets because they seem intent on leaning on him this year.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

now the whole squad is weighing in

That’s straight comedy.

 

[Gruden's Keyboard]

There's only a handful of DTs in the league that can threaten pressure up the middle consistently...

If only there were a way to have a DE and DT swap places as they rush

They'd be going out of their way to do so.

 

[darksideofoz]

There's only a handful of DTs in the league that can threaten pressure up the middle consistently...

If only there were a way to have a DE and DT swap places as they rush

They'd be going out of their way to do so.

So your opinion is there's no value in stunts?

 

[zed2283]

There's only a handful of DTs in the league that can threaten pressure up the middle consistently...

If only there were a way to have a DE and DT swap places as they rush

They'd be going out of their way to do so.

So your opinion is there's no value in stunts?

I took that as a good pun.

 

[darksideofoz]

There's only a handful of DTs in the league that can threaten pressure up the middle consistently...

If only there were a way to have a DE and DT swap places as they rush

They'd be going out of their way to do so.

So your opinion is there's no value in stunts?

I took that as a good pun.

Ah, perhaps. Apologies to GK if so.

 

[Gruden's Keyboard]

No need to apologize brother

 

[efactor]

Got him at 6.07 today in an FFPC startup. Pleasantly surprised as he had been going in that mid 5th range in other drafts I have done. Lot of upside as a #4 WR.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Got him at 6.07 today in an FFPC startup. Pleasantly surprised as he had been going in that mid 5th range in other drafts I have done. Lot of upside as a #4 WR.

SF or 1qb? I am doing a SF FFPC right now and he went 6.05. I think he is good value there.

 

[Harjiran]

Really excited to see what this kid can do this year. His physical skills were never in question but it sounds like he has matured and is more of a student of the game now, paying attention to the little things, honing his craft. The sky's the limit in that Lions offense, league-winning upside. I'm holding or buying shares of Jamo whenever I can.

 

[efactor]

Got him at 6.07 today in an FFPC startup. Pleasantly surprised as he had been going in that mid 5th range in other drafts I have done. Lot of upside as a #4 WR.

SF or 1qb? I am doing a SF FFPC right now and he went 6.05. I think he is good value there.

1 QB

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Got him at 6.07 today in an FFPC startup. Pleasantly surprised as he had been going in that mid 5th range in other drafts I have done. Lot of upside as a #4 WR.

He’s my WR5!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

SF or 1qb? I am doing a SF FFPC right now and he went 6.05. I think he is good value there.

I landed him 6.09 in a SF startup.

If he’s going in this range in August he’s going to be on a lot of my rosters.

 

[Soulfly3]

so an elite route runner has suddenly forgotten how to run routes...... interesting

Tell 'em, Fly!!!!

I still don't understand how this forum doesn't pay me for my takes.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Coach Campbell on Jamo’s continued development

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I still don't understand how this forum doesn't pay me for my takes.

Two words: Josh Gordon

“A man can build 1000 bridges…”

 

[Soulfly3]

I still don't understand how this forum doesn't pay me for my takes.

Two words: Josh Gordon

“A man can build 1000 bridges…”

a man literally to sacrifice his entire career and personal wellbeing for me to be wrong.

 

[Faust]

Brad Galli
Lions safety Brian Branch on Jameson Williams:

“Get y’all popcorn ready for Jamo, man.”

https://x.com/bradgalli/status/1949859178756952509?s=61

 

[Faust]

@Lions
ooohwee

https://x.com/lions/status/1949975909827825958?s=61

Tim Twentyman
This has been every day at camp so far

https://x.com/ttwentyman/status/1949976732418617553?s=61

 

[BobbyLayne]

@Lions
ooohwee

https://x.com/lions/status/1949975909827825958?s=61

Tim Twentyman
This has been every day at camp so far

https://x.com/ttwentyman/status/1949976732418617553?s=61

filthy

 

[Faust]

Al Karsten
How about this Jameson Williams quote on OC John Morton’s approach:

“I think he’s allowing the receivers to be receivers. He’s lining up and giving us routes and telling us to go win.”

“He knows our abilities, he knows we can win 1-on-1 routes, he knows how open we can get when we get those 1-on-1 coverages.”

“He’s putting his faith in his guys and I love that about him. He’s aggressive too. It’s not just me, everyone gets to run more routes, we expanded the offense, we expanded the playbook a little bit”

https://x.com/footballguy_al/status/1950343025093464114?s=61

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Al Karsten
How about this Jameson Williams quote on OC John Morton’s approach:

“I think he’s allowing the receivers to be receivers. He’s lining up and giving us routes and telling us to go win.”

“He knows our abilities, he knows we can win 1-on-1 routes, he knows how open we can get when we get those 1-on-1 coverages.”

“He’s putting his faith in his guys and I love that about him. He’s aggressive too. It’s not just me, everyone gets to run more routes, we expanded the offense, we expanded the playbook a little bit”

https://x.com/footballguy_al/status/1950343025093464114?s=61

Is that Johnny Morton, the old WR? Dc’s staff is a stroll down memory lane of old FF stalwarts.

 

[Zeppelin]

Al Karsten
How about this Jameson Williams quote on OC John Morton’s approach:

“I think he’s allowing the receivers to be receivers. He’s lining up and giving us routes and telling us to go win.”

“He knows our abilities, he knows we can win 1-on-1 routes, he knows how open we can get when we get those 1-on-1 coverages.”

“He’s putting his faith in his guys and I love that about him. He’s aggressive too. It’s not just me, everyone gets to run more routes, we expanded the offense, we expanded the playbook a little bit”

https://x.com/footballguy_al/status/1950343025093464114?s=61

Is that Johnny Morton, the old WR? Dc’s staff is a stroll down memory lane of old FF stalwarts.

Not the same guy.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Al Karsten
How about this Jameson Williams quote on OC John Morton’s approach:

“I think he’s allowing the receivers to be receivers. He’s lining up and giving us routes and telling us to go win.”

“He knows our abilities, he knows we can win 1-on-1 routes, he knows how open we can get when we get those 1-on-1 coverages.”

“He’s putting his faith in his guys and I love that about him. He’s aggressive too. It’s not just me, everyone gets to run more routes, we expanded the offense, we expanded the playbook a little bit”

https://x.com/footballguy_al/status/1950343025093464114?s=61

Is that Johnny Morton, the old WR? Dc’s staff is a stroll down memory lane of old FF stalwarts.

Not the same guy.

Ah, thanks.

 

[Faust]

Jordan Schultz
Here’s one clip of Jameson Williams working against the #Dolphins' defenders. Just so smooth and easy.

Jared Goff and the #Lions are fired up for Year 4 of Jamo.

( @Lions)

https://x.com/schultz_report/status/1956102850771038328?s=61

 

[Chaka]

If any player in the league gives off a prime Tyreek vibe...

 

[TapRackBang]

If any player in the league gives off a prime Tyreek vibe...

Shh.....................

 

[Chaka]

If any player in the league gives off a prime Tyreek vibe...

Shh.....................

Why? I already got him as my WR2 in FBG League Uno.

 

[J Giles Band]

I certainly remember one FBG's member who will roster him on every team he owns... and while there was a lot of bluster at this time last year, most of it proved to be true. Love him in best ball leagues. Tried to trade for him in our 0.5 ppr keeper league... was really close, but was turned down at the end.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If any player in the league gives off a prime Tyreek vibe...

Shh.....................

Why? I already got him as my WR2 in FBG League Uno.

I landed him in both of my start-ups as my WR4-5, respectively. Really excited about him this year. Thought he went way too early in league 4, but I knew he wouldn’t make it 22 picks. It was between Worthy & Jameson and I’m still not sure if I chose correctly (Worthy) .

 

[wgoldsph]

If any player in the league gives off a prime Tyreek vibe...

Shh.....................

Why? I already got him as my WR2 in FBG League Uno.

WR3 in four. *cough*

If any player in the league gives off a prime Tyreek vibe...

Shh.....................

Why? I already got him as my WR2 in FBG League Uno.

I landed him in both of my start-ups as my WR4-5, respectively. Really excited about him this year. Thought he went way too early in league 4, but I knew he wouldn’t make it 22 picks. It was between Worthy & Jameson and I’m still not sure if I chose correctly (Worthy) .

Literally the idea of "I knew he wouldn't make it 22 picks" was the difference between him and the higher floor guys who went after. I wanted him and he wasn't coming back.
Maybe DK and Devonta Smith outscore him and I made a bad pick. He just has the highest chance of ending up as a top 5 wr between the three, and I don't think it's close.

 

[Chaka]

If any player in the league gives off a prime Tyreek vibe...

Shh.....................

Why? I already got him as my WR2 in FBG League Uno.

I landed him in both of my start-ups as my WR4-5, respectively. Really excited about him this year. Thought he went way too early in league 4, but I knew he wouldn’t make it 22 picks. It was between Worthy & Jameson and I’m still not sure if I chose correctly (Worthy) .

We're these startups from last year? I see no path this season where he would be drafted as the 37th - 60th WR.

He finished last season as a mid WR2 and was drafted as a low #2 in all four leagues.

1 - 5.04, 23rd WR (me)
2 - 5.07, 25th WR
3 - 5.10, 26th WR
4 - 5.04, 25th WR

Considering the level of competition it seems like he was drafted right about where he should have been.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We're these startups from last year? I see no path this season where he would be drafted as the 37th - 60th WR.

He finished last season as a mid WR2 and was drafted as a low #2 in all four leagues.

1 - 5.04, 23rd WR (me)
2 - 5.07, 25th WR
3 - 5.10, 26th WR
4 - 5.04, 25th WR

Considering the level of competition it seems like he was drafted right about where he should have been.

No, last 2 months - experienced dynasty managers. SF though, not 1 QB. And TEP. It makes a difference, but not that much.

I drafted from the 11 in one and took him 6.02 and drafted from the 4 in the other and took him 6.11

Anyway, I’m psyched to have him & wish I coulda taken him in the FBG home league.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He finished last season as a mid WR2 and was drafted as a low #2 in all four leagues.

Would you have taken him over Worthy? (Wondering if I should be kicking myself)

 

[Chaka]

Literally the idea of "I knew he wouldn't make it 22 picks" was the difference between him and the higher floor guys who went after. I wanted him and he wasn't coming back.
Maybe DK and Devonta Smith outscore him and I made a bad pick. He just has the highest chance of ending up as a top 5 wr between the three, and I don't think it's close.

Yup. You also took him over DJ Moore.

I took him over DK, Devonta and Marvin Harrison.

I had a millisecond of hesitation about MHJ but, I wanted Jameson and agree he's the one with the best chance to finish in the top tier.