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True - he's bound to have some big games, but historically when he's healthy, you could usually bank on 8-10+ targets, 6-8 receptions, and 80+ yards per game. With Henry, Ekeler, Gordon and Williams around, those numbers are looking increasingly like a thing of the past.
Your take is correct. There are a lot of quality players for Rivers to target. Rivers is a good QB. If Allen is his only target, he will target him often even forcing throw after throw. As soon as other targets are available, Rivers wisely goes to the open man. Hopefully, teams will begin worrying about Henry soon and Allen will be that open guy.
Maybe, but Rivers is also looking Williams way a lot as that big target/big play threat that has largely been missing in the offense. And also dumping the ball off a lot to Ekeler. Just one football to go around unfortunately.
Why not? He’s been terrible since week 3. That’s a bunch of games ago. Painful to watch guys like Metcalf or Mike Williams blow up on your bench while Allen puts up another 3 or 4 points. Really tempted to shut him down for a while in favor of guys like them.
I'm going to be a glass half full guy here and say that things are bound to turn for Allen as the offense seems to be finding a groove with the new coaching situation. Could see LAC making their usual late season run after they crap the bed in the first half. At some point, the targets will turn Allen's way.
History has shown that it works out that way, but he's never had a quiet stretch like this while he's healthy. I just think he's never had the supporting cast to share with as he does now, even when Gates was still in his prime.
He was coming off an ACL tear in 2017 though so it makes more sense that things ramped up as the year went on and he got healthier.
tackle for loss said:
Yes, it has nothing to do with his waiver wire type performances the past six weeks that you quoted.
Because history says so? You don't like him as a player, we get it, and maybe at the end of the year you'll be right about him not coming back around, but until then we've seen these dips in production before from him.
Talent.
Because he's maybe the best route runner in the NFL, has awesome hands, and has a QB who has thrown for 4000 yards six years in a row and is currently leading the league in that statistic. Rivers is on pace to throw for 4600 yards and just 21 TDs; how likely do you think that is?
Rivers may not be forcing the ball this year since he has quality targets all over the field at the moment. Allen should be a WR 1 most weeks and most of us start him based on that potential. FF is about making the right decisions and being right more than you are wrong. Allen is still a right decision.
It's interesting, he's barely a wr4 the past 6 weeks. The #1 receiver by far the first three, wr12 for the year.
That's a tough call. He is going to be on benches after this game though. I can make that decision when TY returns. It's all about your other options.
Allen was open often. Rivers overthrew him a few times. Should have been an easy 100 yard night. Rivers needs to retire. It's over.
I mean, I wouldn't go that far(have you seen some of the QB's being started this season) but its clear that Rivers is no longer a franchise QB, and is more of a C+ level guy.
I didn't watch last night nor other Chargers games, but is it Rivers/playcalling, or the OL not giving him enough time to get the ball downfield and he has to check down to his RBs and Henry?
I watched most of last nights game. I don't know about the past games, but they were consistently getting beat on the edge. Rivers was hit as he threw twice and one resulted in an interception. One interception was Rivers locking onto receiver regardless of defense and that one was pretty bad.
His stat line hit his projection. Fine with me. He was also overthrown more than a couple times and had a long gain called back by penalty. Almost a huge game, but that seems to be the trend lately.
I'm not sure I would say focal point until desperation mode at the end. 7 of those targets were on the last 2 drives where they were slinging it around. He had like 30 yards with 10 minutes left in the game.
I'd agree with this. I always find it puzzling when teams have a guy like Allen, and don't get him established immediately. For all the talk of establishing the run, I think getting WR's going early is actually much more important, and makes it much easier to run later.
Agree. Only thing you left out was blame for Rivers, which last night was largely the case since he was totally inaccurate for much of the game. Balls were sailing in him. They just looked funky coming out of his hand. On the first drive, the 1st Int was a pass to Allen that should have been a wide open positive yardage play with a possible TD - instead Rivers sailed it over his head by a yard & it was an easy pick.
So he didnt have those stats those weeks? The analysis is he isnt any different than a guy on the wire. Is he?
Please, Allen is not droppable. He was certainly disappointing for a month but FF is unpredictable for most players. Denver is a tough match up but he should get enough targets to put up some numbers. The difference between Allen and some guy off the wire that had one big week, is that Allen will get targets most games while the guy from the wire goes back to nothing.
Quit while you're behind. Its okay to say you wre wrong. Or just ghost the thread like most people do until he has a bad game and then start again.
