benching him one league for decker and reedUnless u play in a 6 team league, Allen should be stArted every week. 100+ yards this week
I am too now. I thought I was going Gordon over Allen but now that I made the egregious error of starting Hilton. Also the latest Dodds rankings don't help either.Might be chasing some Cooper points on that one. He's been the beneficiary of some bad secondary play and I'll say even...luck. Allen had a down game last week, but so did the majority of the Chargers offense. I think Allen is the safer play due to targets and usage. The Skins are a nice match up for sure though so I can see the draw of starting Cooper.
I'm flip-flopping over Josh Gordon vs Allen myself....but that's an A/C question
No Geno Atkins, Burfect banged up, I think Newman's banged up a little bit. That defense is hurting. I'd be incline to play Gordon.Cleveland at Cincy doesn't exactly feel great but isn't Cin D a shell of itself?
Benching him for Marshall/Garcon/Decker and ABrown at flex, though I'd love to bump one of them for him I can't bring myself to do it.Unless u play in a 6 team league, Allen should be stArted every week. 100+ yards this week
The Defense still played really well vs balt last week.No Geno Atkins, Burfect banged up, I think Newman's banged up a little bit. That defense is hurting. I'd be incline to play Gordon.Cleveland at Cincy doesn't exactly feel great but isn't Cin D a shell of itself?
Yeah, I assumed the CIN's low points allowed to QBs and WRs was mostly weighted by early season performances, but they have still put together some good games since the injuries. They are obviously no longer dominant, but they haven't turned into a sieve the way Chicago has due to their injuries.The Defense still played really well vs balt last week.No Geno Atkins, Burfect banged up, I think Newman's banged up a little bit. That defense is hurting. I'd be incline to play Gordon.Cleveland at Cincy doesn't exactly feel great but isn't Cin D a shell of itself?
I dont think that Clev O is that much better than Balt O, similar, but Cincy playing at home on D has been really good.
Gordon...Allen....Gordon...Allen...Yeah, I assumed the CIN's low points allowed to QBs and WRs was mostly weighted by early season performances, but they have still put together some good games since the injuries. They are obviously no longer dominant, but they haven't turned into a sieve the way Chicago has due to their injuries.The Defense still played really well vs balt last week.No Geno Atkins, Burfect banged up, I think Newman's banged up a little bit. That defense is hurting. I'd be incline to play Gordon.Cleveland at Cincy doesn't exactly feel great but isn't Cin D a shell of itself?
I dont think that Clev O is that much better than Balt O, similar, but Cincy playing at home on D has been really good.
I think Rivers is already starting to see some return to Earth from the beginning of the season. But I believe Mike McCoy is very good at knowing how to utilize his players' skills. Rivers will remain a good QB, and the offense has enough weapons to stay at least above average.Wouldn't you factor in their QBs? A guy like Cambell is a big deterrent for me.
On that note...can Rivers sustain his "good qb" stature he seems to have reclaimed? Last summer he was thought to be "toast", "stick a fork in him".
PEDs?
Lots of attempts, no takers.The similar choices are either your really good back ups or players u should have attempted to package for studs
In a start-3 WR league, Allen is your 3rd WR. He should be a no-brainer start for you. The only player I could see you POSSIBLY starting over him as your WR3 might be Cruz, but he hasn't done much since week 4, & Eli isn't getting the ball in the EZ this year. I don't see this as a tough choice at all.Lots of attempts, no takers.The similar choices are either your really good back ups or players u should have attempted to package for studs
Demaryius Thomas (draft)
Desean Jackson (draft)
Victor Cruz (draft)
Percy Harvin (waivers)
Roddy White (trade)
And Keenan Allen (waivers).
The folks calling Allen a no-brainer starter don't have a very deep team. For others, it's a tough choice (good problem to have though).
I see what you mean. In one league, he pretty much is a no brainer since my WR depth is hurting a little. In another league I have him in, we only start 2 WRs and a W/R/T. So my 2 WRs are Bryant and Garcon. For my flex spot, its between Allen, Woodhead, Vereen, and Roddy White. This week, yes Allen in a no brainer for me. But next week, gonna be tough to pick just one of those 4.The folks calling Allen a no-brainer starter don't have a very deep team. For others, it's a tough choice (good problem to have though).The similar choices are either your really good back ups or players u should have attempted to package for studs
Yup, I agree. This guy doesn't have as deep a team that he thinks he does. Allen is a no-brainer WR3 for him over Cruz. And Allen *is* a no-brainer starter for the large majority of owners lucky enough to have him, even with moderately deep squads.In a start-3 WR league, Allen is your 3rd WR. He should be a no-brainer start for you. The only player I could see you POSSIBLY starting over him as your WR3 might be Cruz, but he hasn't done much since week 4, & Eli isn't getting the ball in the EZ this year. I don't see this as a tough choice at all.The folks calling Allen a no-brainer starter don't have a very deep team. For others, it's a tough choice (good problem to have though).
It's possible that you have 3 WRs that are better than Allen. But (and this is usually seen when dealing with trades), FF owners tend to over-value the guys they drafted/traded for. So, even though Allen has out-performed Cruz, he still values him more. He traded for Roddy (probably, like I did-expecting him to be a great WR3 down the stretch; I still do hope for that, after this week against Revis), so he values him over Allen. But the fact is that those guys aren't ahead of Allen at this time, not in FF.Yup, I agree. This guy doesn't have as deep a team that he thinks he does. Allen is a no-brainer WR3 for him over Cruz. And Allen *is* a no-brainer starter for the large majority of owners lucky enough to have him, even with moderately deep squads.In a start-3 WR league, Allen is your 3rd WR. He should be a no-brainer start for you. The only player I could see you POSSIBLY starting over him as your WR3 might be Cruz, but he hasn't done much since week 4, & Eli isn't getting the ball in the EZ this year. I don't see this as a tough choice at all.The folks calling Allen a no-brainer starter don't have a very deep team. For others, it's a tough choice (good problem to have though).
Just checked in with a few "expert" rankings for this week.Yup, I agree. This guy doesn't have as deep a team that he thinks he does. Allen is a no-brainer WR3 for him over Cruz. And Allen *is* a no-brainer starter for the large majority of owners lucky enough to have him, even with moderately deep squads.In a start-3 WR league, Allen is your 3rd WR. He should be a no-brainer start for you. The only player I could see you POSSIBLY starting over him as your WR3 might be Cruz, but he hasn't done much since week 4, & Eli isn't getting the ball in the EZ this year. I don't see this as a tough choice at all.The folks calling Allen a no-brainer starter don't have a very deep team. For others, it's a tough choice (good problem to have though).
Since Allen became a starter (week 4), he has outscored Cruz every week they both played, except week 4. If you draft your team/pick your starters solely on the "experts" picks, then why is there even an issue? Just start who they tell you to start.Just checked in with a few "expert" rankings for this week.Yup, I agree. This guy doesn't have as deep a team that he thinks he does. Allen is a no-brainer WR3 for him over Cruz. And Allen *is* a no-brainer starter for the large majority of owners lucky enough to have him, even with moderately deep squads.In a start-3 WR league, Allen is your 3rd WR. He should be a no-brainer start for you. The only player I could see you POSSIBLY starting over him as your WR3 might be Cruz, but he hasn't done much since week 4, & Eli isn't getting the ball in the EZ this year. I don't see this as a tough choice at all.The folks calling Allen a no-brainer starter don't have a very deep team. For others, it's a tough choice (good problem to have though).
Dodds, Tremblay, CBS "Average", and ESPN like Cruz over Allen.
FFToday has it even.
Bloom likes Allen over Cruz.
Over on FantasyPros, the average of 130 experts puts Cruz at 11 and Allen at 17. Of the 130, 75% have Cruz>Allen.
I can see a case for Allen for sure, but it's not anywhere in the vicinity of a no-brainer.
Right there with ya bud.Gordon...Allen....Gordon...Allen...Yeah, I assumed the CIN's low points allowed to QBs and WRs was mostly weighted by early season performances, but they have still put together some good games since the injuries. They are obviously no longer dominant, but they haven't turned into a sieve the way Chicago has due to their injuries.The Defense still played really well vs balt last week.No Geno Atkins, Burfect banged up, I think Newman's banged up a little bit. That defense is hurting. I'd be incline to play Gordon.Cleveland at Cincy doesn't exactly feel great but isn't Cin D a shell of itself?
I dont think that Clev O is that much better than Balt O, similar, but Cincy playing at home on D has been really good.
I think most of them are ignoring the trends and looking at Cruz's entire body of work and the matchup. They're ignoring Eli's monstrous struggles and the fact that Rivers is having a career year. Everyone weighs the different factors at different importance. It's a personal decision. But it's kind of annoying to post "expert" rankings as evidence to why one should start over the other. We all know where to find the rankings.Look you said Allen over Cruz was a no-brainer, and I have no doubt you believe that.
I'm just pointing out that you're in the minority. Lots of folks are looking at the same data/trends/situations etc., and most of them are coming to the opposite conclusion.
My intention wasn't to provide evidence to why one should start over the other.I think most of them are ignoring the trends and looking at Cruz's entire body of work and the matchup. They're ignoring Eli's monstrous struggles and the fact that Rivers is having a career year. Everyone weighs the different factors at different importance. It's a personal decision. But it's kind of annoying to post "expert" rankings as evidence to why one should start over the other. We all know where to find the rankings.Look you said Allen over Cruz was a no-brainer, and I have no doubt you believe that.
I'm just pointing out that you're in the minority. Lots of folks are looking at the same data/trends/situations etc., and most of them are coming to the opposite conclusion.
These are the same "experts" who kept pegging T-Rich as a viable RB1/RB2 candidate for the 1st 1/2 of the season, despite the fact that to me (and many other people) there is no way he should have been. lLook you said Allen over Cruz was a no-brainer, and I have no doubt you believe that.
I'm just pointing out that you're in the minority. Lots of folks are looking at the same data/trends/situations etc., and most of them are coming to the opposite conclusion.
Same here. My choice is between Antonio Brown and Allen. Safe points vs upside. In the end it comes down to matchup, whether you are favored and need the upside of allen.TartanLion said:In a complete quandary as to whether I start him or not.
I have V Jax and Garçon starting as my two WRs this week, and a choice of Bernard, Allen, Gordon or Fitzgerald in the flex.
Ten man league. Clearly Allen is not always a no brainer in anything over a six man league.
definitely swaying me in Allen direction. I think he has a big game tomorrow... thxBrent Grimes is short and has problems wrapping up on tackles, he is however a threat to take the ball on any given throw so QBs shy away from him a bit. Allen will be fine tomorrow.
No targets really. Watching the whole game, he's been matched up with Dimitri Patterson, just no looks from Rivers. No effort to get him involved.What's with the first half invisibility act?