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WR Michael Crabtree, Free Agent (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Octopus
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Did he leave Oakland without an offer?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
@VicTafur: Lake Tahoe is beautiful this time of year ... Kid asked me to check in on Michael Crabtree's visit with #Raiders. He left without a contract
Apparently he did.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
He's delusional as he is a doucheebag
massraider
Footballguy
If his agent has a brain, he has to assume the offers won't be getting better. A bunch of teams are going to add young, cheap talent in a month. There is a chance that a team misses out on WRs they like and make him a deal, but it seems more likely that several suitors drop out of the running post-draft.
I wonder how much his attitude/opinion of his own talents factors in to things. I think he can be a solid possession WR. Nothing wrong with that,but if he thinks he's AJ Green, he may not be viewed as worth it.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
is his agent out on the field running sloppy routes and dropping passes?
One thing I wont defend with crabtree, is his Diva-ness... and yes, I fully believe he played disinterested, fully expecting a huge payday regardless... How do I know? Cuz he's proving it as we speak
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MaxThreshold
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He just wasn't really any good except for a few times you can count on one hand. MAYBE two. I don't buy the "he wasn't used properly" argument.
Since you can start 500 WRs on your team in your league, I suppose he would be an option but that's only because it sounds like there's not much to choose from - not because he's any good.
From an NFL perspective he's WR4 or 5 at best. I would say 5, personally.
Rockchild
Footballguy
For the price he can be had for, I think he's a pretty good buy low. I understand people thinking he's done, and he may very well be done, but he's pretty cheap right now. If he is done, you're not out a whole lot on your investment but he offers some upside(WR2-3 in PPR) in the right situation.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
we can start as few as 2 as many as 5.
very flexible dynasty league - wouldnt change it for the world.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
He should visit CAR, would make a good complement to brilliant 2014 rookie deep threat Benjamin, to go with TE Olsen (just extended), and the rejuvenated Jonathan Stewart. If Crabtree isn't finished from the ruptured Achilles tendon, he will only be 28 during the 2015 season, far from decrepit for a WR.
He is from the class of '09, with the only top 10 overall pedigree* from a WR class that also featured fellow first rounders Maclin, Harvin, Nicks and Britt (Mike Wallace a third rounder, Julian Edelman a seventh rounder). All have flashed brilliance and great promise, but have also suffered severe injury setbacks at various times. Somewhat of a snakebit WR class, health-wise. Britt was thought by many to be done, but led the Rams in receiving with nothing at QB last year, and could have upside with Foles.
* DHB was an oversight (#7 overall).
He is from the class of '09, with the only top 10 overall pedigree* from a WR class that also featured fellow first rounders Maclin, Harvin, Nicks and Britt (Mike Wallace a third rounder, Julian Edelman a seventh rounder). All have flashed brilliance and great promise, but have also suffered severe injury setbacks at various times. Somewhat of a snakebit WR class, health-wise. Britt was thought by many to be done, but led the Rams in receiving with nothing at QB last year, and could have upside with Foles.
* DHB was an oversight (#7 overall).
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Carolina is a natural fit for him. More so than Oakland. Newton's ability to extend plays vs Carr's quick release just fits a route runner like Crabtree.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Can you name a member of the SF passing offense that WAS and good? Boldin was probably the best with 1k/5td but even those stats as a leading receiver on an NFL team in 2014 are pretty abysmal. SF just had an awful passing offense to be divided up between Boldin/Crabtree/Stevie Johnson/Vernon Davis.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Yup.
There's no convincing me that in just one summer, Vernon Davis (a freak of physical nature) declined so much that he went from 850/13 to 245/2
Try and spin it a million ways to me, and I just wont buy it.
Kaep is trash, the offensive scheming was trash, and SF has imploded.
There's no convincing me that in just one summer, Vernon Davis (a freak of physical nature) declined so much that he went from 850/13 to 245/2
Try and spin it a million ways to me, and I just wont buy it.
Kaep is trash, the offensive scheming was trash, and SF has imploded.
Rimez
Footballguy
Can you name one from the raiders, and if he goes to miami he'll be the #3 at best. Crabtrees best years are behind him, all ONE of them.
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Bob Magaw
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Speaks to Kaepernick's "Captain Lock In" penchant. Crabtree was the WR beneficiary at times in the past, but it has been Boldin the past two years. Many close observers of SF have talked about his inability to work through his progressions, and struggles to distribute the ball (one look and bolt tendency). He is an outstanding athlete and gifted runner, has a cannon arm, but STILL very much a work in progress as a pure passer and in terms of his OVERALL QB skills a half decade into his NFL career.
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Bob Magaw
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Maybe HOU? He is from Texas, they could use a complementary WR opposite DeAndre Hopkins, and he is a willing blocker, which would be appreciated on a team that likes to run as much as they do.CLE needs a WR as much as just about any team (a lot of mocks have linked Parker with CLE, as well as MIN and MIA), and they lost TE Cameron, too. BAL? He could swap places with his replacement in SF, Torrey Smith, who the Ravens now need to replace. They have different skill sets, but Steve Smith is a deep threat, and Crabtree a natural possession WR. Smith is also 35+, so they would have a younger vet starter in place for the future.
MIA reportedly offered $3 million per season, but he wants $4.5 million. He may not get what he is looking for, and it was bad timing and unfortunate for his leverage in free agency to have such a down season in 2014. There are some good WR options in the draft, too, which doesn't help his cause. He might want to hurry up and get something done in the next week or two, or could find his options even more curtailed than they already are.
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RaiderBones
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Fallon Smith @FallonSmithCSN 10m10 minutes ago
Multiple sources confirm Michael Crabtree is in fact signing with the #Raiders.
Multiple sources confirm Michael Crabtree is in fact signing with the #Raiders.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
They have had a great offseason already imo.
Hope they don't nail the draft like they did last year as well.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I hate the guy, like on a deep swede personal nature, but even I can see the incentive that a 26 WR who is fighting to prove himself on a one year deal. He'll have plenty of incentive to outperform that contract.
squistion
Footballguy
As my father used to say: There is nothing worse than the hate on a deep swede personal level.
cstu
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
offseason I got him for a mid 2nd, and Im more than certain it'll prove to be a very shrewd move on my part / PPR
squistion
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Soulfly3
Footballguy
already rostered in my IR slot.Shrewd move indeed. Bet you can turn around and trade him for Josh Gordon now.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
doesnt surprise me that you're the type of condescending d-bag that craps on rules of other leagues.squistion said:Somehow, it doesn't surprise me that you would be in a league that allows suspended players to be put on IR (you know, like, they actually might be designated by the NFL as on IR).
if it was so idiotic/nonexistent, MFL probably wouldnt have it as a setting
we're square.
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massraider
Footballguy
First time it never bothered me to have crabs.
squistion
Footballguy
Shocking, I know, that I play in leagues that are fair and in which players placed on IR actually have to be on IR. Figured you were the type to be in leagues with loopholes for the IR rules and I was right.doesnt surprise me that you're the type of condescending d-bag that craps on rules of other leagues.squistion said:Somehow, it doesn't surprise me that you would be in a league that allows suspended players to be put on IR (you know, like, they actually might be designated by the NFL as on IR).
if it was so idiotic/nonexistent, MFL probably wouldnt have it as a setting
we're square.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
Please sit down if you are not doing so already:
In my leagues, a player on IR, actually has to be designated on IR by the NFL (what a novel concept). A player suspended does not qualify as being on IR, because, officially he isn't on IR, according to the NFL.
squistion
Footballguy
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Well, at least for the 1st two games before he:
a) Hurts himself again
b) The attitude kicks in, he whines and complains and gives up
Pick one 'cause it's gonna' happen. The guy has always been over-hyped and a cancer.
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Soulfly3
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Soulfly3
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@AdamSchefter 9m
9 minutes ago
Raiders are giving former 49er WR Michael Crabtree a 1-year, $3 million deal, with another $2 million in incentives, per source.
9 minutes ago
Raiders are giving former 49er WR Michael Crabtree a 1-year, $3 million deal, with another $2 million in incentives, per source.
massraider
Footballguy
squistion
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cstu
Footballguy
Crabtree is all about the money - do you know what commission he'll have to pay if he has to sell his house?
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
As much as I like Carr, I just don't see Crabtree willing to put in the offseason time to make this work in a 1 year period. Raiders should still be looking for a #1 WR possibility in the first couple rounds of the draft.
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