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WR Michael Crabtree, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

Not complicated:

Cobb, Maclin, Smith = good

Crabtree, Wayne, Nicks, Welker = bad
Out of that group, I'm taking Crabtree all day. The other three have proven they are done IMO. Crabtree lost a step he couldn't afford to lose after his achilles injury. If I'm a NFL team, I'm bringing him in and making him run a 40 for me. If he's under 4.65 I'd offer him a prove it 1 year 3 or 4 million deal.

Make no mistake, Crabtree had a terrible year last year. But speed was never really his best asset. If he works at it, I think he could be a Boldin type of player in the second half of his career. Key being that he works at it.
Last year he was out-played by a 34 year old Boldin who was also never known for his speed.

I actually watched most of his plays last year and he has zero speed left and can't get open. The hands are still there but all he can do is catch screens and run crossing patterns.

 
He's visiting with the Dolphins today.
That would be a pretty good NFL fit for him. Nothing to get too excited about from a fantasy standpoint, but Tannehill appears to like those short to intermediate passes.

Seems like he and Landry would be a bit redundant, though.

 
Not complicated:

Cobb, Maclin, Smith = good

Crabtree, Wayne, Nicks, Welker = bad
Out of that group, I'm taking Crabtree all day. The other three have proven they are done IMO. Crabtree lost a step he couldn't afford to lose after his achilles injury. If I'm a NFL team, I'm bringing him in and making him run a 40 for me. If he's under 4.65 I'd offer him a prove it 1 year 3 or 4 million deal.

Make no mistake, Crabtree had a terrible year last year. But speed was never really his best asset. If he works at it, I think he could be a Boldin type of player in the second half of his career. Key being that he works at it.
Last year he was out-played by a 34 year old Boldin who was also never known for his speed.

I actually watched most of his plays last year and he has zero speed left and can't get open. The hands are still there but all he can do is catch screens and run crossing patterns.
Again, i hear this zero speed thing, but i remember him torching a few defenders on a long TD last season. I think he was unmotivated more than sluggish

We'll soon find out

 
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He ran an amazing route in one of the SF-Rams games and juked the CB for a long TD. That one really had nothing to do with his speed. I don't remember any others off the top of my head.

 
He ran an amazing route in one of the SF-Rams games and juked the CB for a long TD. That one really had nothing to do with his speed. I don't remember any others off the top of my head.
against the Giants I believe (off memory, this could be wrong)

had 2-3 defenders beat, one he outran despite the defender trying to clip his heels.... (remember this is months and months ago, so Im doing my best off my stoner brain)

ETA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a89QMi3x3dU

it was even more glorious than I remember... he had 6 guys on his ###, blew em all off

 
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He ran an amazing route in one of the SF-Rams games and juked the CB for a long TD. That one really had nothing to do with his speed. I don't remember any others off the top of my head.
against the Giants I believe (off memory, this could be wrong)

had 2-3 defenders beat, one he outran despite the defender trying to clip his heels.... (remember this is months and months ago, so Im doing my best off my stoner brain)

ETA:

Even there he just found a seam and was fighting off a guy all the way into the end zone.And it's probably worth noting that in these two posts we have just discussed 40% of his touchdown catches over the last two seasons.

 
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Hakeem Nicks 2.0

Injuries sapped him. Can still be a useful NFL possession WR but the problem with him might be he'll never be as good as he thinks or is or as involved as he thinks he should be so I think you'll see a average possession WR with a diva attitude which is going to wear thin in a hurry.

And then you have this:

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He ran an amazing route in one of the SF-Rams games and juked the CB for a long TD. That one really had nothing to do with his speed. I don't remember any others off the top of my head.
against the Giants I believe (off memory, this could be wrong)

had 2-3 defenders beat, one he outran despite the defender trying to clip his heels.... (remember this is months and months ago, so Im doing my best off my stoner brain)

ETA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a89QMi3x3dU

it was even more glorious than I remember... he had 6 guys on his ###, blew em all off
I knew the exact play you were talking about. Looked into it and the player he beat was safety Quintin Demps (#35) who was benched the week before against the Seahawks. He's now a free agent.

In the 6 games after that one Crabtree had 25/189/0 (7.6 YPC).

 
Rotoworld:

49ers coaches reportedly felt free agent Michael Crabtree was "really slowed down" by lower-leg injuries in 2014.

NFL Network's Albert Breer also says there's a negative "perception" about Crabtree's attitude. The concern about Crabtree's lower-leg injuries was borne out in his usage by the 49ers staff, which deployed Crabtree as a possession receiver. Lower-leg injuries also brought Hakeem Nicks and Michael Clayton's careers to a halt. It's not a surprise Crabtree has drawn scant interest in free agency. Even at age 27, he doesn't separate or run after the catch like he used to.

Related: 49ers

Source: Albert Breer on Twitter
Mar 19 - 1:00 PM
 
Rotoworld:

The Dolphins confirmed they hosted free agent Michael Crabtree on Thursday.
As far as we know, it's Crabtree's first visit of free agency. Unless he rediscovers some of his steadily-diminishing explosion, Crabtree would be a Brandon Gibson-esque possession receiver for the Dolphins' remodeled offense.

Related: Dolphins

Source: Dolphins on Twitter
Mar 19 - 7:22 PM
 
-CE- said:
I think achilles injuries are the new career killer.
I've always steered clear of players coming off achilles injuries, but it is worth noting that D. Thomas appears to be the exception to that rule. On the defensive side, I believe Brent Grimes bounced back very well.

 
-CE- said:
I think achilles injuries are the new career killer.
I've always steered clear of players coming off achilles injuries, but it is worth noting that D. Thomas appears to be the exception to that rule. On the defensive side, I believe Brent Grimes bounced back very well.
Andre Brown also made it back from an Achilles rupture to put together a string of productive games (albeit many years after the initial injury) before getting reinjured and eventually fading away.

 
-CE- said:
I think achilles injuries are the new career killer.
I've always steered clear of players coming off achilles injuries, but it is worth noting that D. Thomas appears to be the exception to that rule. On the defensive side, I believe Brent Grimes bounced back very well.
The difference is that DT was explosive again just 10 months after his achilles. It took him awhile but he got better as the season progressed (#5 WR from weeks 13-16 and had 204 yards a playoff game).

Crabtree had 16 months to recover for the 2014 season but never looked like his old self and actually got worse during the season.

 
I think achilles injuries are the new career killer.
I've always steered clear of players coming off achilles injuries, but it is worth noting that D. Thomas appears to be the exception to that rule. On the defensive side, I believe Brent Grimes bounced back very well.
Andre Brown also made it back from an Achilles rupture to put together a string of productive games (albeit many years after the initial injury) before getting reinjured and eventually fading away.
Yeah, I thought about mentioning him, too, but didn't think he was quite notable enough. Plus, during that nice string of games he got injured again so he didn't even get to compile very many stats that year, iirc.

The problem with achilles injuries is that we never seem to get information on the severity of the tear.

 
Rotoworld:

Michael Crabtree - WR - Free Agent

Free agent WR Michael Crabtree is reportedly willing to wait "however long it takes to find an appealing situation for the 2015 season."

Crabtree's market has been ice cold, with teams scared off by both his sapped lower-leg explosion and questionable locker room character. The 49ers and Dolphins have both shown a bit of mild interest, but only as a complementary player. Crabtree, who knows he needs a big chance to rehab his value on a one-year "prove it" contract, should be trying to find a spot he'll have a major role. The problem is that opportunity may never come.

Related: 49ers

Source: CSN Bay Area

Mar 24 - 12:26 PM
 
Rotoworld:

Michael Crabtree - WR - Free Agent

Free agent WR Michael Crabtree is reportedly willing to wait "however long it takes to find an appealing situation for the 2015 season."

Crabtree's market has been ice cold, with teams scared off by both his sapped lower-leg explosion and questionable locker room character. The 49ers and Dolphins have both shown a bit of mild interest, but only as a complementary player. Crabtree, who knows he needs a big chance to rehab his value on a one-year "prove it" contract, should be trying to find a spot he'll have a major role. The problem is that opportunity may never come.

Related: 49ers

Source: CSN Bay Area

Mar 24 - 12:26 PM
Browns?

 
Rotoworld:

Michael Crabtree - WR - Free Agent

Free agent WR Michael Crabtree is reportedly willing to wait "however long it takes to find an appealing situation for the 2015 season."

Crabtree's market has been ice cold, with teams scared off by both his sapped lower-leg explosion and questionable locker room character. The 49ers and Dolphins have both shown a bit of mild interest, but only as a complementary player. Crabtree, who knows he needs a big chance to rehab his value on a one-year "prove it" contract, should be trying to find a spot he'll have a major role. The problem is that opportunity may never come.

Related: 49ers

Source: CSN Bay Area

Mar 24 - 12:26 PM
Browns?
his agent should be competing with Jennings' for the Panthers. Or Saints or Ravens. Browns if none of those work out.

 
Rotoworld:

GM Trent Baalke has confirmed the 49ers are open to re-signing free agent Michael Crabtree, but hinted it wasn't likely.
"As long as Michael’s out there, he’s just like any other (unrestricted free agent)," Baalke said. "You never say never." It's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Crabtree's lone-known visit of free agency was to the Dolphins last week. CSN Bay Area has reported Crabtree is willing to wait "however long it takes to find an appealing situation for the 2015 season." That's the right mindset since Crabtree's wait has no end in sight.

Related: 49ers

Source: Sacramento Bee
Mar 24 - 7:26 PM
 
Rotoworld:

Michael Crabtree - WR - Free Agent

Free agent WR Michael Crabtree is reportedly willing to wait "however long it takes to find an appealing situation for the 2015 season."Crabtree's market has been ice cold, with teams scared off by both his sapped lower-leg explosion and questionable locker room character. The 49ers and Dolphins have both shown a bit of mild interest, but only as a complementary player. Crabtree, who knows he needs a big chance to rehab his value on a one-year "prove it" contract, should be trying to find a spot he'll have a major role. The problem is that opportunity may never come.

Related: 49ers

Source: CSN Bay Area

Mar 24 - 12:26 PM
Browns?
his agent should be competing with Jennings' for the Panthers. Or Saints or Ravens. Browns if none of those work out.
Did the Ravens sign anyone or do they ony have Steve Smith, Marlon Brown and some youngsters currently?

 
Rotoworld:

Michael Crabtree - WR - Free Agent
The Florida Times Union reports the Jaguars "have never been interested" in free agent Michael Crabtree.
"The same goes for Reggie Wayne," writes beat reporter Ryan O'Halloran. The Jags are in the market for a veteran wideout, but prefer Greg Jennings to Crabtree and Wayne. The outlook for Crabtree's free agent market remains soft and ultimately bleak. He's probably going to have a tough time finding a starting job.

Related: Jaguars

Source: Florida Times Union
Mar 30 - 9:49 PM
 
Rotoworld:

GM Trent Baalke has confirmed the 49ers are open to re-signing free agent Michael Crabtree, but hinted it wasn't likely.
"As long as Michael’s out there, he’s just like any other (unrestricted free agent)," Baalke said. "You never say never." It's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Crabtree's lone-known visit of free agency was to the Dolphins last week. CSN Bay Area has reported Crabtree is willing to wait "however long it takes to find an appealing situation for the 2015 season." That's the right mindset since Crabtree's wait has no end in sight.

Related: 49ers

Source: Sacramento Bee
Mar 24 - 7:26 PM
"... Crabtree is willing to wait "however long it takes to find an appealing situation for the 2015 season." That's the right mindset since Crabtree's wait has no end in sight."

Ouch.

 
Rotoworld:

"Sources around the league" tell Bleacher Report's Jason Cole that free agent Michael Crabtree's market has "crashed."
Cole's sources are just stating the obvious. Per Cole, Crabtree apparently believed he was going to make $9-$10 million per year before the start of last season. It would be a miracle for Crabtree to get even half that. The most likely outcome is Crabtree accepting $2-$3 million on a one-year, "prove-it" deal. To date, his lone visit has been to the Dolphins.

Source: Bleacher Report
Mar 31 - 2:21 PM
 
Rotoworld:

"Sources around the league" tell Bleacher Report's Jason Cole that free agent Michael Crabtree's market has "crashed."
Cole's sources are just stating the obvious. Per Cole, Crabtree apparently believed he was going to make $9-$10 million per year before the start of last season. It would be a miracle for Crabtree to get even half that. The most likely outcome is Crabtree accepting $2-$3 million on a one-year, "prove-it" deal. To date, his lone visit has been to the Dolphins.

Source: Bleacher Report
Mar 31 - 2:21 PM
Waste of money IMO.

 
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
I haven't heard any reports of him being a locker room cancer or causing any trouble. I think his injury sapped him of some of his speed/explosion (which he didn't have a ton of to begin with), and he's priced himself out of the market by setting his price tag too high. He'll latch on somewhere when he's more realistic and takes the "prove it" type deal mentioned above.

 
The issue is he wanted so much in the beginning and now teams are in draft prep mode and dont want to lose compensation for next year. So they will wait till June 1(Or May 12 as rumored to move up) to make a move. I think he is going to be a bargain for a team.

 
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Crabtree never recovered from the beating Sherman gave him. Maybe him and nicks can start up a flag football team.

 
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
I haven't heard any reports of him being a locker room cancer or causing any trouble. I think his injury sapped him of some of his speed/explosion (which he didn't have a ton of to begin with), and he's priced himself out of the market by setting his price tag too high. He'll latch on somewhere when he's more realistic and takes the "prove it" type deal mentioned above.
There were rumors he was the locker room source on some of the reports of dysfunction last year.

 
Insein said:
voiceofunreason said:
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
Talent? He was below average before the injury, now he's just a backup level player. Amazing how he was such a high draft pick.
The guy was the top WR prospect of his draft class and touted as a top 5 overall pick by most draft evaluators. It's amazing he fell as far as he did.
His talent was always over-rated IMO. Not that DHB should have been taken over him but I never thought he ran faster the 4.6 (still believe that was the reason he never ran before the draft). Great hands but lazy and only about the money (:hi: Jameis).

 
Insein said:
voiceofunreason said:
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
Talent? He was below average before the injury, now he's just a backup level player. Amazing how he was such a high draft pick.
The guy was the top WR prospect of his draft class and touted as a top 5 overall pick by most draft evaluators. It's amazing he fell as far as he did.
One of the worst misses this side of Trent Richardson. I have no idea what the scouts were looking at. Not much for ball skils, slow, attitude problems, prima donna. I never got the love.

 
Insein said:
voiceofunreason said:
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
Talent? He was below average before the injury, now he's just a backup level player. Amazing how he was such a high draft pick.
The guy was the top WR prospect of his draft class and touted as a top 5 overall pick by most draft evaluators. It's amazing he fell as far as he did.
One of the worst misses this side of Trent Richardson. I have no idea what the scouts were looking at. Not much for ball skils, slow, attitude problems, prima donna. I never got the love.
He looked good in college but in hindsight that was at least partly due to the scheme. But Crabtree is a reminder of how important work ethic is, I think he has natural talent but he apparently never worked for it.

It's somewhat surprising to me that two of the guys with the best "hands" (he and Nicks) in recent drafts have both fallen apart so early in their careers.

 
Insein said:
voiceofunreason said:
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
Talent? He was below average before the injury, now he's just a backup level player. Amazing how he was such a high draft pick.
The guy was the top WR prospect of his draft class and touted as a top 5 overall pick by most draft evaluators. It's amazing he fell as far as he did.
One of the worst misses this side of Trent Richardson. I have no idea what the scouts were looking at. Not much for ball skils, slow, attitude problems, prima donna. I never got the love.
He looked good in college but in hindsight that was at least partly due to the scheme. But Crabtree is a reminder of how important work ethic is, I think he has natural talent but he apparently never worked for it.

It's somewhat surprising to me that two of the guys with the best "hands" (he and Nicks) in recent drafts have both fallen apart so early in their careers.
Neither guy was going to be Julio Jones but both were derailed by injuries. Crabtree never had a decent QB either. For someone known for route running over speed I think this could've made a meaningful difference.

 
Insein said:
voiceofunreason said:
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
Talent? He was below average before the injury, now he's just a backup level player. Amazing how he was such a high draft pick.
The guy was the top WR prospect of his draft class and touted as a top 5 overall pick by most draft evaluators. It's amazing he fell as far as he did.
One of the worst misses this side of Trent Richardson. I have no idea what the scouts were looking at. Not much for ball skils, slow, attitude problems, prima donna. I never got the love.
Is this just lazy trolling? No rational person could believe this. Waldman has touted Crabtree as the pinnacle for route running and his great hands were well known. No one ever claimed he was a speedster but the route running and hands alone made him easily a 1st round pick. As Tool mentioned, Crabtree's path was unraveled by injuries and bad QB play. It remains to be seen if he can overcome the achilles injury or if that will do him in. Selecting the right team and being a model citizen in 2015 will also be critical. The odds are stacked against him at this point so it is easy to pile on, but his 2012 season (primarily the second half w/o Alex Smith) is enough to shut down this kind of trolling.

 
Insein said:
voiceofunreason said:
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
Talent? He was below average before the injury, now he's just a backup level player. Amazing how he was such a high draft pick.
The guy was the top WR prospect of his draft class and touted as a top 5 overall pick by most draft evaluators. It's amazing he fell as far as he did.
One of the worst misses this side of Trent Richardson. I have no idea what the scouts were looking at. Not much for ball skils, slow, attitude problems, prima donna. I never got the love.
He looked good in college but in hindsight that was at least partly due to the scheme. But Crabtree is a reminder of how important work ethic is, I think he has natural talent but he apparently never worked for it.

It's somewhat surprising to me that two of the guys with the best "hands" (he and Nicks) in recent drafts have both fallen apart so early in their careers.
Neither guy was going to be Julio Jones but both were derailed by injuries. Crabtree never had a decent QB either. For someone known for route running over speed I think this could've made a meaningful difference.
good point. There's a reason Wes Welker did so well with Brady and before injury with Peyton; while many other similar WRs never reach that level of success. (Not saying Crabtree = Welker, but there are similarities)

 
Insein said:
voiceofunreason said:
This guy has to be locker room poison. All that talent and no one will touch him?
Talent? He was below average before the injury, now he's just a backup level player. Amazing how he was such a high draft pick.
The guy was the top WR prospect of his draft class and touted as a top 5 overall pick by most draft evaluators. It's amazing he fell as far as he did.
One of the worst misses this side of Trent Richardson. I have no idea what the scouts were looking at. Not much for ball skils, slow, attitude problems, prima donna. I never got the love.
Very easy to say that 6 years later but at the time he was one of the better prospects in years aside from Calvin.

 

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