WR Rashee Rice, KC (1 Viewer)

[FarFromHome]

Yeah while other players on your roster are out for BYE or injury, that’s a rough time of year to lose a dude to suspension.

That's an opinion changing post man. Nice

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That's an opinion changing post man. Nice

Unfortunately it doesn’t help either of the dynasty teams I roster him.



It does inspire confidence in FBG league 4 where I sniped Xavier before @Ministry of Pain could take him.

 

[djjosee]

That's an opinion changing post man. Nice

Unfortunately it doesn’t help either of the dynasty teams I roster him.



It does inspire confidence in FBG league 4 where I sniped Xavier before @Ministry of Pain could take him.

Would the pickle still be dancing if the suspension is effective for the 2026 season? The uncertainty is more frustrating than anything else.

 

[SanDawg]

If true, first four games with that schedule only helps the Chiefs. Chargers, Philly and Baltimore....suspended for four, then comes back for Buffalo game....optics on this are interesting. He would miss Detroit and Washington but they are NFC games.

 

[menobrown]

I just don't understand this one. His incident occurred almost a year and a half ago, case settled about a month ago and they can't have a disciplinary meeting until after week 4 is played? I just don't know how any of that makes sense?

But yeah this is horrible for his fantasy value as the easiest weeks to replace are the first few weeks.

Also his bye in week 10 is not helpful. Means if he gets 4 games he misses weeks 5-8, comes back for week 9, goes away again until week 11 which is a little scattershot and not ideal. He probably won't get 8 games but if he did that would take him out of week one of the league playoffs which is week 13.(ETA I mean this for FFPC redraft leagues)

I love suspension discounts but this is not one I think I'm going to like so much.

 

[Gatorade]

I just don't understand this one. His incident occurred almost a year and a half ago, case settled about a month ago and they can't have a disciplinary meeting until after week 4 is played? I just don't know how any of that makes sense?

But yeah this is horrible for his fantasy value as the easiest weeks to replace are the first few weeks.

Also his bye in week 10 is not helpful. Means if he gets 4 games he misses weeks 5-8, comes back for week 9, goes away again until week 11 which is a little scattershot and not ideal. He probably won't get 8 games but if he did that would take him out of week one of the league playoffs which is week 13.(ETA I mean this for FFPC redraft leagues)

I love suspension discounts but this is not one I think I'm going to like so much.

At least he should be rested and healthy unless he decides to participate in unhealthy activities during the suspension

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Would the pickle still be dancing if the suspension is effective for the 2026 season? The uncertainty is more frustrating than anything else.

If the suspension didn’t come until 2026 both pickles would be dancing.

 

[Buckna]

Would the pickle still be dancing if the suspension is effective for the 2026 season? The uncertainty is more frustrating than anything else.

If the suspension didn’t come until 2026 both pickles would be dancing.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Because I have shares of both.

 

[Terpman22]

I just don't understand this one. His incident occurred almost a year and a half ago, case settled about a month ago and they can't have a disciplinary meeting until after week 4 is played? I just don't know how any of that makes sense?

But yeah this is horrible for his fantasy value as the easiest weeks to replace are the first few weeks.

Also his bye in week 10 is not helpful. Means if he gets 4 games he misses weeks 5-8, comes back for week 9, goes away again until week 11 which is a little scattershot and not ideal. He probably won't get 8 games but if he did that would take him out of week one of the league playoffs which is week 13.(ETA I mean this for FFPC redraft leagues)

I love suspension discounts but this is not one I think I'm going to like so much.

Sure seems like the NFL doesn't want to hurt them too badly, I see a lot of Chiefs Bandwagon-esque writing and rooting for all over media right now + Taylor Swift dropping her album right before the start of the season all doesn't seem coincidence.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

+ Taylor Swift dropping her album right before the start of the season all doesn't seem coincidence.

/tinfoilhat

 

[Terpman22]

+ Taylor Swift dropping her album right before the start of the season all doesn't seem coincidence.

/tinfoilhat

I mean, marketing isn't really a conspiracy lol. Eagles won't have too much trouble locking down Rashee week 2

 

[dblock05]

I am a Rice owner in redraft (keeper) so sure I am biased....but I am not sure why we are assuming more than 4 games at most. The part that sucks is that the first 4 games are brutal for the chief so his output is probably going to be limited opposed to easier opponents.

However, I assume people in this forum are sharks and you now have time to work your magic and land a WR replacement in the waiver wire to prepare. If you are able to land someone like Puca in week 1, can you imagine? I know players like that hardly happen but you just never know man. If you draft him, you know you may need to reach on another WR to cover a possible suspension.

Anyways...hope for the best....2-3 game suspension.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I am a Rice owner in redraft (keeper) so sure I am biased....but I am not sure why we are assuming more than 4 games at most. The part that sucks is that the first 4 games are brutal for the chief so his output is probably going to be limited opposed to easier opponents.

However, I assume people in this forum are sharks and you now have time to work your magic and land a WR replacement in the waiver wire to prepare. If you are able to land someone like Puca in week 1, can you imagine? I know players like that hardly happen but you just never know man. If you draft him, you know you may need to reach on another WR to cover a possible suspension.

Anyways...hope for the best....2-3 game suspension.

I’m fortunate in 1 league with him to have the depth to survive his absence.

In another I’m a little thin at WR so having him early would buy me a little time for my other WRs to get healthy.

 

[menobrown]

I just don't understand this one. His incident occurred almost a year and a half ago, case settled about a month ago and they can't have a disciplinary meeting until after week 4 is played? I just don't know how any of that makes sense?

But yeah this is horrible for his fantasy value as the easiest weeks to replace are the first few weeks.

Also his bye in week 10 is not helpful. Means if he gets 4 games he misses weeks 5-8, comes back for week 9, goes away again until week 11 which is a little scattershot and not ideal. He probably won't get 8 games but if he did that would take him out of week one of the league playoffs which is week 13.(ETA I mean this for FFPC redraft leagues)

I love suspension discounts but this is not one I think I'm going to like so much.

Sure seems like the NFL doesn't want to hurt them too badly, I see a lot of Chiefs Bandwagon-esque writing and rooting for all over media right now + Taylor Swift dropping her album right before the start of the season all doesn't seem coincidence.

I don't know about all that.

From a pure football angle I'd think the Chiefs would rather he served his suspension to start the season. Mainly because it's just cleaner that way to allow him to get into a rhythm with Mahomes instead of start/stop. Also not for nothing but Dr. Chao, whose report on him from October is one of the major reasons I was very bullish on his health, did a little reverse course on me and says by video he looks like he's favoring his knee.So maybe he'd benefit from the extra month or so off before he begins the season?

As for media driven conspiracy theories I'm not seeing that either. I mean how many people do you really think their viewership of the game depends on if Rice is playing or not matters? It can't be enough to register. Kelce and by association Swift matters, a lot, and of course Mahomes but just don't think Rice playing or not is tilting amount of eyeballs watching the game.

 

[LawFitz]

His incident occurred almost a year and a half ago, case settled about a month ago and they can't have a disciplinary meeting until after week 4 is played? I just don't know how any of that makes sense?

Because Chiefs!

first four games with that schedule only helps the Chiefs.

Uh huh.

Taylor Swift dropping her album right before the start of the season

All hail Queen Chief! (but be careful combining those words)

If the suspension didn’t come until 2026

Unlikely, but not entirely unpossible. How could I possibly believe that? Because Chiefs.

from legal people I trust. We're thinking 4-6 games and leaning toward 4

Legalese for Because Chiefs.

 

[KellysHeroes]

If true, first four games with that schedule only helps the Chiefs. Chargers, Philly and Baltimore....suspended for four, then comes back for Buffalo game....optics on this are interesting. He would miss Detroit and Washington but they are NFC games.

5 Prime time slots in 8 weeks! Thats insane; and 3 during weeks 5 through 8. I'll actually be surprised if they suspend him at all. He'll definitely be back by the Buffalo game (Nov 2nd)

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[greenmountaingoat]

Serious question: Has he shown any actual remorse? Or stated that he feels lucky that there weren't much more serious injuries or death?

 

[Buckna]

Because I have shares of both.

Joking aside, I am debating reaching out to some Worthy owners with this news. More uncertainty about when Rice will actually be suspended, wouldn't mind having Worthy as a backup plan.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Dont even know for sure if that suspension is this year or next

That’s an excellent point - when does the NFL consider “the legal process to have been completed”?

Is it upon sentencing? Or is it once he’s served his 30 days (any time over the next 5 years was it?), or once his probation has been completed without issue?

Any legal-minded NFL-knowledgeable type folks want to weigh in on the NFL’s definition of “completed”?

FWIW it doesn’t seem to be effecting his dynasty stock - went 4.09 in one start-up (to me) and 4.06 in another (to not me) over the last ~8 weeks. The suspension seems built-in to that pricing. If he had no legal issues he’s probably an early 2nd round start-up asset.

@rockaction - any insight/opinion on the question above re: definition of “completed”?

I would not venture a guess. I. Do. Not. Get. NFL. Suspensions. I drafted Zeke in the 2nd that year because I never thought he’d get that many games. Or did I know? Either way, I never in my wildest dreams thought Zeke would get suspended after the female in charge of his hearing found a sexual battery “victim” not credible.

After Zeke, I gave up. I still can’t believe they could circumvent the CBA like that, so I quit thinking about it. I wait for the announcements. It really should be unconstitutional. It’s arbitrary and capricious, which is the threshold when it comes to CBAs. Or at least it was.

I roster Rice in one of my two dynasty leagues so I’m interested, too.

And here above is the myth once again being put forth about Zeke’s suspension.

Here is the league’s official explanation for the suspension, which is more detail than they’ve provided for many other suspensions:

“Ezekiel Elliott of the Dallas Cowboys was notified today by the NFL that he will be suspended without pay for the team’s first six 2017 regular-season games for violating the league’s Personal Conduct Policy.

“Over the course of the last year, the league conducted an extensive investigation. League investigators interviewed more than a dozen witnesses, including Ms. Tiffany Thompson, who had alleged multiple instances of physical violence in July 2016, and Mr. Elliott. The league also consulted with medical experts. League investigators examined all available evidence, including photographic and digital evidence, thousands of text messages and other records of electronic communications.

“Pursuant to the Personal Conduct Policy, Commissioner Goodell sought the views of four external advisors (see below) to assist him in evaluating potential violations. These experts range in experience from law enforcement, judicial and public service, and other specialized subject areas.

“The advisors participated in a meeting on June 26, 2017 in New York City with Elliott, who was represented by his legal team and the NFL Players Association. The group also reviewed the league’s investigative reports and materials, the expert medical reports, and multiple NFL Players Association submissions on Elliott’s behalf.

“In a letter to Elliott advising him of the decision, Todd Jones, the NFL’s Special Counsel for Conduct, said these advisors ‘were of the view that there is substantial and persuasive evidence supporting a finding that [Elliott] engaged in physical violence against Ms. Thompson on multiple occasions during the week of July 16, 2016.’

“After reviewing the record, and having considered the views of the independent advisors, the commissioner determined that the credible evidence established that Elliott engaged in conduct that violated NFL policy.

“Elliott may appeal this decision within three days. If he does not appeal, Elliott’s suspension will begin September 2, the day of final roster reductions for NFL teams. He is eligible to participate in all preseason practices and games. Elliott will be eligible to return to the team’s active roster on Monday, October 23 following the Cowboys’ Sunday, October 22 game against the San Francisco 49ers.”

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Why you're probably better off just avoiding Rashee Rice in your fantasy football drafts this season

Fantasy football analyst Matt Harmon breaks down the curious case of Rashee Rice's fantasy outlook in 2025.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Ministry of Pain]

That's an opinion changing post man. Nice

Unfortunately it doesn’t help either of the dynasty teams I roster him.



It does inspire confidence in FBG league 4 where I sniped Xavier before @Ministry of Pain could take him.

If Rice is suspended or held off the field for whatever period of time, I don't think it actually help X out there as much of the coverage will slant towards him
Great pick, we both used an early 4th in different leagues to raise eyebrows, you with X, I grabbed Trey Henderson as my RB4 in League 3 but that's a different discussion/post
I've been waiting in league 3 to post but I wanted to see most of it unfold first. Took a lot more risk there.

 

[nittanylion]

If (and granted, it's a big 'if'), Hollywood Brown is healthy, and (another big 'if'), if the reports about Kelce being re-invigorated are true, than IMHO, XW isn't going to have any issue assuming both Alpha role, and production, in the Chiefs offense. Just MHO, based upon how he finished out 2024.

Fully acknowledge that more than 1 'if' 's = " That's a lotta 'if' 's "

 

[Deamon]

I just don't understand this one. His incident occurred almost a year and a half ago, case settled about a month ago and they can't have a disciplinary meeting until after week 4 is played? I just don't know how any of that makes sense?

But yeah this is horrible for his fantasy value as the easiest weeks to replace are the first few weeks.

Also his bye in week 10 is not helpful. Means if he gets 4 games he misses weeks 5-8, comes back for week 9, goes away again until week 11 which is a little scattershot and not ideal. He probably won't get 8 games but if he did that would take him out of week one of the league playoffs which is week 13.(ETA I mean this for FFPC redraft leagues)

I love suspension discounts but this is not one I think I'm going to like so much.

Good points but I'd take a counter point on this decreasing his value.

First few weeks (although no byes/injuries, so I do understand that point dropping him) are a lot less sure fire. I tend to put more weight on weeks 1 to 4 than 4 to 8, simply because by week 4 things are more clear, you can have worked the wire, guys you thought would be good might not be, and vice versa. As a Rice owner, I'd rather him be out weeks 4-8 than weeks 1-4. I can figure other plans out by week 4 and those WR's I take a late shot on, I'd feel better about starting weeks 4-8 if they start off the season well, than having to throw them in at the start.

Also I know he's healthy, but if he gets any tweeks or bumps and bruises the first 4 weeks, He's got a whole month of bye weeks to get fully healthy and rested again.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

As a Rice owner, I'd rather him be out weeks 4-8 than weeks 1-4.

Not me. There are BYE weeks, injuries, matchup challenges.

Much better to be 1-4 than 5-8 (4-8 would be 5 weeks) but that’s more a concern about my WR depth, or lack thereof.

Sure, I can probably pluck someone off the wire, but that’s hardly likely to replace his ability/floor.

And if you’ve got a guy with a sprained ankle + a guy with a week 7 BYE, you might have more holes than you can fill.

I do believe it hurts him more in redraft to have his suspension during the BYE weeks. Not to mention the Chiefs have a late BYE, so it could end up being 5 games without him on a 4-game suspension. Or 7 without him on a 6-game suspension.

So now you’re spending a 4th-5th round redraft pick on a dude who’s going to miss between ~30% - 41% of the season. And that’s not even considering that Rice could get hurt, as every player has a chance to any week.

Seems like you’re drafting 1/2 a player at almost full price. Maybe if a suspension drops him to the 7th-8th in redraft I’ll take a shot - at some point every player is worth the gamble.

 

[menobrown]

As a Rice owner, I'd rather him be out weeks 4-8 than weeks 1-4.

Not me. There are BYE weeks, injuries, matchup challenges.

Much better to be 1-4 than 5-8 (4-8 would be 5 weeks) but that’s more a concern about my WR depth, or lack thereof.

Sure, I can probably pluck someone off the wire, but that’s hardly likely to replace his ability/floor.

And if you’ve got a guy with a sprained ankle + a guy with a week 7 BYE, you might have more holes than you can fill.

I do believe it hurts him more in redraft to have his suspension during the BYE weeks. Not to mention the Chiefs have a late BYE, so it could end up being 5 games without him on a 4-game suspension. Or 7 without him on a 6-game suspension.

So now you’re spending a 4th-5th round redraft pick on a dude who’s going to miss between ~30% - 41% of the season. And that’s not even considering that Rice could get hurt, as every player has a chance to any week.

Seems like you’re drafting 1/2 a player at almost full price. Maybe if a suspension drops him to the 7th-8th in redraft I’ll take a shot - at some point every player is worth the gamble.

I"m with you. The bye weeks vs not are huge.

 

[LawFitz]

Seems like you’re drafting 1/2 a player at almost full price

IMO if there had been no suspension hanging over him, full price would've ended up in the late 2nd round, just ahead of McConkey. So even in Rd 4-5, this isn't full price.

Bottom line is will he be a 2nd-rd level WR come the stretch run heading into the fantasy playoffs? If so, then he's still worth the Rd 4-5 selection. If not, then well FML to all of us who took him.

 

[ChiefD]

Tyquan Thornton is getting some run in camp. Don't sleep on him.

 

[smbkrypt24]

Seems like you’re drafting 1/2 a player at almost full price

IMO if there had been no suspension hanging over him, full price would've ended up in the late 2nd round, just ahead of McConkey. So even in Rd 4-5, this isn't full price.

Bottom line is will he be a 2nd-rd level WR come the stretch run heading into the fantasy playoffs? If so, then he's still worth the Rd 4-5 selection. If not, then well FML to all of us who took him.

Agree with this. Full price is easily second round for him with no suspension.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Tyquan Thornton is getting some run in camp. Don't sleep on him.

I think he is a black belt at training camp, but reverts to a white belt when the games matter.

 

[menobrown]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

And there’s the potential death knell to his redraft value.

If we lose him for any point of weeks 14-17 - oof.

Absolute landmine. One I’ll avoid stepping on in redraft.

 

[smbkrypt24]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

Good insight here. So essentially the suspension may not start until week 11 if appealed and it follows the same timeline.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

IMO if there had been no suspension hanging over him, full price would've ended up in the late 2nd round, just ahead of McConkey. So even in Rd 4-5, this isn't full price.

A fair point, but my thought process is who am I taking him over who might actually give me ~16 productive games?

What potential downgrade to production is worth availability? 10%? 20%?

Rice could be a league winner if he’s balling out weeks 12~> LCG, or a doorstop if he’s on your bench with a (s) next to his name.

 

[menobrown]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

Good insight here. So essentially the suspension may not start until week 11 if appealed and it follows the same timeline.

Yes that's the major takeaway for fantasy purposes and seems almost a mortal lock it's not starting by week 5.

 

[smbkrypt24]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

Good insight here. So essentially the suspension may not start until week 11 if appealed and it follows the same timeline.

Yes that's the major takeaway for fantasy purposes and seems almost a mortal lock it's not starting by week 5.

And if he doesn't appeal week 8 seems about the range the suspension would start.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

Good insight here. So essentially the suspension may not start until week 11 if appealed and it follows the same timeline.

Yes that's the major takeaway for fantasy purposes and seems almost a mortal lock it's not starting by week 5.

And if he doesn't appeal week 8 seems about the range the suspension would start.

If he does it could start week 10? And we’re talking 4-6?

 

[JohnnyU]

Sounds to me like there's a strong possiblity he won't be available for fantasy playoffs.

 

[menobrown]

Sounds to me like there's a strong possiblity he won't be available for fantasy playoffs.

If it comes to pass this makes him an interesting trade candidate in some dynasty leagues in situations were contending teams are losing him and teams looking more to the future might be able to offer something to those teams to make run this year as part of the package for him.

Different set of circumstances and timeline, but we've seen these buy low discounts on injured players in dynasty and it's how I got guy Breece Hall super cheap in a few leagues and a long time ago got Julio Jones in what I think was his second or third season after he broke his foot.Maybe those guys were cheaper because of concerns they could return to health, but regardless if Rice is out the money weeks and contending teams have him it's probably going to be a nice buy low window in a lot of leagues.

 

[Scoresman]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

Is there any precedent for them just pushing the suspension to next year if it gets delayed like this? Is that even a possibility?

 

[menobrown]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

Is there any precedent for them just pushing the suspension to next year if it gets delayed like this? Is that even a possibility?

I think the precedent is just one case which was Watson's and the timeline on that fell considerably short of what would be needed to push this into 2026. So seems unlikely, though if he got 8 or perhaps even just 6 games it's possible some of those games bleed into next season as well as the end of this one.

 

[JohnnyU]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

Is there any precedent for them just pushing the suspension to next year if it gets delayed like this? Is that even a possibility?

Yes, but all Rice owners are required to do 100 hours of community service.

 

[FarFromHome]

Just read some tweets from Dan Graziano and he had some interesting info which throws the whole timeline of this into even more confusion. Can't link it, just scroll for his tweets.

First off he cleared up the question a lot of us have as to why the hearing is on 9/30. The person who will hear his case is Sue Robinson, same person who heard Watson's and this is simply when it fits her schedule.

Now for interesting details.

Now it's only got to this point because the league, player and union could not agree on his discipline. That's a new one to me btw, since when did the player and union need to agree before the league issued a suspension? I thought the league suspended, then the player or union could appeal but actually checking with the player and union first? That honesty does not do a lot to quell the Chiefs favortism conspiracies.

And now the potential bad nugget of news he dropped for us fantasy people. I'm sure I'm not the only person who when I heard he has a hearing after week 4 he'd start serving his suspension in week 5. Hold up on that assumption. Different cases and circumstances but Dan outlined the timeline of when she heard Watson's case. Hearing was heard on 6/28 and she did not rule on it until 8/1! Then Watson appealed, and that appeal was not finalized until 8/18. This is the only case that Sue has ever heard.

So obviously the risk of this suspension running into the league playoffs, championship rounds of national contests, etc, etc has is high even if he "only" gets a 4 game suspension.

Is there any precedent for them just pushing the suspension to next year if it gets delayed like this? Is that even a possibility?

Yes, but all Rice owners are required to do 100 hours of community service.

For 17 games this year I'd be willing to do 80 hours.

 

[LawFitz]

We got one hour before I gotta go offline for a while. Let's get cookin, fellas!

 

[joey]

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We got one hour before I gotta go offline for a while. Let's get cookin, fellas!

Whatcha cookin’ in the Rashee Rice topic?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Our FBG Staffer Legal Expert Drew Davenport:

https://x.com/DrewDavenportFF/status/1956047351870595312

 

[FarFromHome]

Our FBG Staffer Legal Expert Drew Davenport:

https://x.com/DrewDavenportFF/status/1956047351870595312

Thank you for sharing that. That was very informative. Guy sounds smart. Solid stuff

 

[dblock05]

Drew Davenport is one of the best. I appreciate his perspective very much.

My question….if I recall correctly, this judge did only recommend 6 games for Watson and he still got 11 games ultimately because of Goodell has the final say. What power does the judge have in having a say in this if anyone can answer that?

 

[Bossman]

Why is Rashee Rice Case Taking So Long?

Because it's the KC Swifties!