WR Rashee Rice, KC (3 Viewers)

[menobrown]

Drew Davenport is one of the best. I appreciate his perspective very much.

I'll give an unpopular opinion. I never check in with what Drew has to say and I don't mean anything negative towards him when I say that, truly, I just don't feel like it does me any good because I don't think NFL suspensions are based on the court of law(his domain) but more the court of public opinion and their own process.

What power does the judge have in having a say in this if anyone can answer that?

For these purposes despite her title of Judge Sue Robinson she is known in NFL terms as the disciplinary officer on the case. Again like I mentioned above the NFL court is not the real world court. The disciplinary officer will do some things like a judge, they'll hear testimony, request or review evidence, and ultimately reach a decision on the punishment and convey that directly to the player or the NFLPA.

That's pretty much where her say and role ends.

If after that decision the player or league choose to appeal that would be heard by the commissioner or his appointee. In that appeal they are not allowed to hear new testimony or evidence that was not presented to the disciplinary officer, Judge Sue in this case.The commissioner or his appointee have full power to reduce, overturn or increase the discipline imposed and that decision is binding and final.

IMO it's a game of charades made to make it appear that Goodell is not acting like the sole judge and juror but in reality either he or someone he personally appoints has the final say.

 

[nittanylion]

***THIS IS ALL PURELY SPECULATIVE ON MY PART, AND ONLY HAS BASIS FROM HEARSAY, ALTHOUGH SAID 'HEARSAYER' HAS SOME *EXTREMELY* REMOTE (READ: NOT NECESSARILY RELIABLE) CONNECTION TO WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, TAKE FROM IT WHAT YOU WILL, BUT DON'T GIVE IT MUCH CREDENCE, PLEASE, AND DON'T iSTONE ME IN RESPONSE***

The timing of the appointment with Judge Sue has been purposefully orchestrated to take place after Week 4, because the NFL (Commish Goodell, primarily), really plans on making this sting for RRice, and make an example out of him in front of the rest of the League, to minimize this kind of crap behavior going forward.

NFL Office is pushing hard for a Season-long suspension, and to increase the psychological impact of the punishment, are going to allow Rice to have a 'taste' of football (first 4 games), before taking the rest of his Season away.

Personally, I'm a *huge* fan of accountability (which is sadly lacking *everywhere* these days, IMHO), and I own no shares of Rice.

This is *extremely* far-fetched, but I would absolutely *LOVE IT* if it were to actually come to pass.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

***THIS IS ALL PURELY SPECULATIVE ON MY PART, AND ONLY HAS BASIS FROM HEARSAY, ALTHOUGH SAID 'HEARSAYER' HAS SOME *EXTREMELY* REMOTE (READ: NOT NECESSARILY RELIABLE) CONNECTION TO WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, TAKE FROM IT WHAT YOU WILL, BUT DON'T GIVE IT MUCH CREDENCE, PLEASE, AND DON'T iSTONE ME IN RESPONSE***

The timing of the appointment with Judge Sue has been purposefully orchestrated to take place after Week 4, because the NFL (Commish Goodell, primarily), really plans on making this sting for RRice, and make an example out of him in front of the rest of the League, to minimize this kind of crap behavior going forward.

NFL Office is pushing hard for a Season-long suspension, and to increase the psychological impact of the punishment, are going to allow Rice to have a 'taste' of football (first 4 games), before taking the rest of his Season away.

Personally, I'm a *huge* fan of accountability (which is sadly lacking *everywhere* these days, IMHO), and I own no shares of Rice.

This is *extremely* far-fetched, but I would absolutely *LOVE IT* if it were to actually come to pass.

Or, and I know this is crazy talk, judge Robinson had a busy schedule with an opening in September.

Occam’s razor and all that.

The conspiracies about helping the chiefs go out the window when looking at a possible suspension that goes late into the season presumably while the Chiefs are making a playoff push.

I don’t believe this alleged unsourced conspiracy. It sounds very far-fetched, not consistent with other NFL suspensions, and this whole “psychological punishment / let him have a taste of football” thing sounds more like what vindictive fans want, and nothing that would come from the offices of the largest professional sports organization.

Not killing you for it, just calling it like I see it in response. None of it passes the sniff test IMO.

 

[dblock05]

Drew Davenport is one of the best. I appreciate his perspective very much.

I'll give an unpopular opinion. I never check in with what Drew has to say and I don't mean anything negative towards him when I say that, truly, I just don't feel like it does me any good because I don't think NFL suspensions are based on the court of law(his domain) but more the court of public opinion and their own process.

What power does the judge have in having a say in this if anyone can answer that?

For these purposes despite her title of Judge Sue Robinson she is known in NFL terms as the disciplinary officer on the case. Again like I mentioned above the NFL court is not the real world court. The disciplinary officer will do some things like a judge, they'll hear testimony, request or review evidence, and ultimately reach a decision on the punishment and convey that directly to the player or the NFLPA.

That's pretty much where her say and role ends.

If after that decision the player or league choose to appeal that would be heard by the commissioner or his appointee. In that appeal they are not allowed to hear new testimony or evidence that was not presented to the disciplinary officer, Judge Sue in this case.The commissioner or his appointee have full power to reduce, overturn or increase the discipline imposed and that decision is binding and final.

IMO it's a game of charades made to make it appear that Goodell is not acting like the sole judge and juror but in reality either he or someone he personally appoints has the final say.

Thank you for this. You explained it perfectly.

This does remind me of the Watson situation with this appeal process. Watson was able to still accrue a season in the end. Rice should just take the suspension of whatever the NFL wants to begin the season unless it’s completely crazy…and maybe playing this game may reduce it…but I can’t imagine it would by a significant amount.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just saw a sleeper update that the NFL wanted to give Rice 10 games, and NFLPA balked at that. At least I think that was the jist.

If it’s 10 games starting after ~October?

Oof.

 

[zeeshan2]

Pelissero: NFL initially proposed Rashee Rice suspension of 10+ games; NFLPA countered that no precedent exists for suspension of that length.

 

[phandango]

Tom Pelissero also said it's possible a settlement is reached before the season.

I could see NFL going all out to make an example of Rice. I could also see the NFL releasing this stuff about wanting a 10-game suspension and saying, "Well, we tried," before settling for fewer games.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I could also see the NFL releasing this stuff about wanting a 10-game suspension and saying, "Well, we tried," before settling for fewer games.

This is a bullseye IMO.

ETA: that would set up nicely for a 6-er, which is what had been speculated by most.

 

[dblock05]

Yeah you could say the general public is not going to dig deep into it and realize that Roger can ultimately do what he wants . It’s good for business if he can comeback after 6….

I imagine Rice’s camp will say that the longer you suspend me, the longer it takes to pay back the victims.

 

[Stealthycat]

10 would equal negotiated to 4-6 IMO

 

[menobrown]

NFLPA says there is no precedent for a suspension of this length for "this type of incident" but what other type of incident like this has occurred?

 

[menobrown]

10 would equal negotiated to 4-6 IMO

Actually the report does not say 10 games, it says double digit games. So 10's possible, but also the floor.

I think if he can get out for 6 games he'll be doing great and feel it's more likely 8 then 4.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

Drew Davenport is opining that he now thinks the Rice suspension will be more significant than he originally thought (4-6 games). So I asked him, and would like FBG opinions on these questions.

Couple of opinion questions - will the Chiefs use Rice before the hearing (assuming no settlement)? Other than Xavier Worthy, who is impacted the most by a lengthy suspension? And do we see enough 12 formations to make Noah Gray fantasy worthy?

 

[menobrown]

will the Chiefs use Rice before the hearing

Easy one. Of course, they'll use him every game he's eligible. You might have seen the recent report he's already made sure he can travel to Brazil for the opener as their was some questions abut that due to his parole/criminal record.

And do we see enough 12 formations to make Noah Gray fantasy worthy?

Did not happen last year and can't really see a valid reason anything changed so no.

Other than Xavier Worthy, who is impacted the most by a lengthy suspension?

Kelce needed Rice to die last year so he could live. So he's #1.

I'd go with Royals as #2 but anyone #2 might be a distant 2.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

will the Chiefs use Rice before the hearing

Easy one. Of course, they'll use him every game he's eligible. You might have seen the recent report he's already made sure he can travel to Brazil for the opener as their was some questions abut that due to his parole/criminal record.

And do we see enough 12 formations to make Noah Gray fantasy worthy?

Did not happen last year and can't really see a valid reason anything changed so no.

Other than Xavier Worthy, who is impacted the most by a lengthy suspension?

Kelce needed Rice to die last year so he could live. So he's #1.

I'd go with Royals as #2 but anyone #2 might be a distant 2.

I was thinking we would see more Gray and Hollywood Brown would be the WR2 to Worthy.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Drew Davenport is opining that he now thinks the Rice suspension will be more significant than he originally thought (4-6 games). So I asked him, and would like FBG opinions on these questions.

Couple of opinion questions - will the Chiefs use Rice before the hearing (assuming no settlement)?

Yes. As much as possible.

Other than Xavier Worthy, who is impacted the most by a lengthy suspension? And do we see enough 12 formations to make Noah Gray fantasy worthy?

Pretty much Worthy, and potentially Royals, Hollywood, and Kelce.

But based on last year’s usage, Worthy seems like the prime beneficiary.

 

[nittanylion]

If I'm not mistaken, Andy Reid is very hesitant to deploy rookies, unless absolutely necessary.

If he goes with a veteran-heavy approach, outside of the usual suspects (Worthy, Hollywood, Kelce), maybe we do see some more Noah Gray, maybe some JuJu or Skyy...and what I fear the most (as I was getting pretty bullish on a reasonably affordable Mahomes and Pacheco), a fully deployed 3RB committee of Pacheco/Mitchell/Hunt, who all are more than capable of catching passes out of the backfield.

Also, they're pretty good with the jet sweep, IIRC, yes?

 

[Riffraff]

NFLPA says there is no precedent for a suspension of this length for "this type of incident" but what other type of incident like this has occurred?

Kind of a catch-22.
There is no precedent... until one is set.

Player gets in an accident vs Player causes an accident.
(downplayed greatly, I know - I personally want an extremely harsh ruling that gets remembered as the Rashee Rule)

 

[Instinctive]

NFLPA says there is no precedent for a suspension of this length for "this type of incident" but what other type of incident like this has occurred?

Kind of a catch-22.
There is no precedent... until one is set.

Player gets in an accident vs Player causes an accident.
(downplayed greatly, I know - I personally want an extremely harsh ruling that gets remembered as the Rashee Rule)

I mean every DUI ever is this type of incident but worse. And we just saw one only get 3 games. If I were the NFLPA I'd be arguing that point until the cows come home.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

NFLPA says there is no precedent for a suspension of this length for "this type of incident" but what other type of incident like this has occurred?

Kind of a catch-22.
There is no precedent... until one is set.

Player gets in an accident vs Player causes an accident.
(downplayed greatly, I know - I personally want an extremely harsh ruling that gets remembered as the Rashee Rule)

I mean every DUI ever is this type of incident but worse. And we just saw one only get 3 games. If I were the NFLPA I'd be arguing that point until the cows come home.

True but the NFLPA will always argue for the players. It’s their whole purpose for being. But I wouldn’t say every DUI incident is like this. Most drunk drivers don’t leave the scene. I know if his actions had put my wife or kids in the hospital, I would be less than forgiving. Legally, he got off light. Morally I hope he learned his lesson and grows up. He paid over $100k in restitution to victims for their out of pocket expenses. Which means their insurances probably paid 10 times that or more. Now I know - or at least believe - that he was just a stupid kid doing stupid kid things. But the leaving the scene aspect really does bother me. More than the actual actions (driving drunk, racing, etc). Because that shows a lack of character rather than a lack of sense.

 

[Instinctive]

NFLPA says there is no precedent for a suspension of this length for "this type of incident" but what other type of incident like this has occurred?

Kind of a catch-22.
There is no precedent... until one is set.

Player gets in an accident vs Player causes an accident.
(downplayed greatly, I know - I personally want an extremely harsh ruling that gets remembered as the Rashee Rule)

I mean every DUI ever is this type of incident but worse. And we just saw one only get 3 games. If I were the NFLPA I'd be arguing that point until the cows come home.

True but the NFLPA will always argue for the players. It’s their whole purpose for being. But I wouldn’t say every DUI incident is like this. Most drunk drivers don’t leave the scene. I know if his actions had put my wife or kids in the hospital, I would be less than forgiving. Legally, he got off light. Morally I hope he learned his lesson and grows up. He paid over $100k in restitution to victims for their out of pocket expenses. Which means their insurances probably paid 10 times that or more. Now I know - or at least believe - that he was just a stupid kid doing stupid kid things. But the leaving the scene aspect really does bother me. More than the actual actions (driving drunk, racing, etc). Because that shows a lack of character rather than a lack of sense.

We can agree to disagree and that's ok

 

[KellysHeroes]

Drew Davenport is opining that he now thinks the Rice suspension will be more significant than he originally thought (4-6 games). So I asked him, and would like FBG opinions on these questions.

Couple of opinion questions - will the Chiefs use Rice before the hearing (assuming no settlement)? Other than Xavier Worthy, who is impacted the most by a lengthy suspension? And do we see enough 12 formations to make Noah Gray fantasy worthy?

just kind of shows that "experts" aren't as dialed in has we believe.

 

[KellysHeroes]

NFLPA says there is no precedent for a suspension of this length for "this type of incident" but what other type of incident like this has occurred?

Kind of a catch-22.
There is no precedent... until one is set.

Player gets in an accident vs Player causes an accident.
(downplayed greatly, I know - I personally want an extremely harsh ruling that gets remembered as the Rashee Rule)

I mean every DUI ever is this type of incident but worse. And we just saw one only get 3 games. If I were the NFLPA I'd be arguing that point until the cows come home.

True but the NFLPA will always argue for the players. It’s their whole purpose for being. But I wouldn’t say every DUI incident is like this. Most drunk drivers don’t leave the scene. I know if his actions had put my wife or kids in the hospital, I would be less than forgiving. Legally, he got off light. Morally I hope he learned his lesson and grows up. He paid over $100k in restitution to victims for their out of pocket expenses. Which means their insurances probably paid 10 times that or more. Now I know - or at least believe - that he was just a stupid kid doing stupid kid things. But the leaving the scene aspect really does bother me. More than the actual actions (driving drunk, racing, etc). Because that shows a lack of character rather than a lack of sense.

We can agree to disagree and that's ok

So this Sept 30th date now seems more like a punishment... Rice could of just swallowed his cough medicine and ate the 10 games; comeback the 2nd half and be a hero.... but now the NFL will make him pay most likely come to a decision the back half and suspend him the 2nd half of the season.... wonderful; as if Rashee Rice couldn't screw this up anymore

 

[KellysHeroes]

NFLPA says there is no precedent for a suspension of this length for "this type of incident" but what other type of incident like this has occurred?

Kind of a catch-22.
There is no precedent... until one is set.

Player gets in an accident vs Player causes an accident.
(downplayed greatly, I know - I personally want an extremely harsh ruling that gets remembered as the Rashee Rule)

I mean every DUI ever is this type of incident but worse. And we just saw one only get 3 games. If I were the NFLPA I'd be arguing that point until the cows come home.

True but the NFLPA will always argue for the players. It’s their whole purpose for being. But I wouldn’t say every DUI incident is like this. Most drunk drivers don’t leave the scene. I know if his actions had put my wife or kids in the hospital, I would be less than forgiving. Legally, he got off light. Morally I hope he learned his lesson and grows up. He paid over $100k in restitution to victims for their out of pocket expenses. Which means their insurances probably paid 10 times that or more. Now I know - or at least believe - that he was just a stupid kid doing stupid kid things. But the leaving the scene aspect really does bother me. More than the actual actions (driving drunk, racing, etc). Because that shows a lack of character rather than a lack of sense.

We can agree to disagree and that's ok

this is a weird hill for the NFLPA to die on; yeah... no player has ever caused a multiple car pile up and been videotaped as they claimly collected their things and walk all while getting slapped with 8 felonies and sued for millions. Good luck, its not going to go well... guessing RR is going to miss the last 8 games of the season

 

[menobrown]

NFLPA says there is no precedent for a suspension of this length for "this type of incident" but what other type of incident like this has occurred?

Kind of a catch-22.
There is no precedent... until one is set.

Player gets in an accident vs Player causes an accident.
(downplayed greatly, I know - I personally want an extremely harsh ruling that gets remembered as the Rashee Rule)

I mean every DUI ever is this type of incident but worse. And we just saw one only get 3 games. If I were the NFLPA I'd be arguing that point until the cows come home.

True but the NFLPA will always argue for the players. It’s their whole purpose for being. But I wouldn’t say every DUI incident is like this. Most drunk drivers don’t leave the scene. I know if his actions had put my wife or kids in the hospital, I would be less than forgiving. Legally, he got off light. Morally I hope he learned his lesson and grows up. He paid over $100k in restitution to victims for their out of pocket expenses. Which means their insurances probably paid 10 times that or more. Now I know - or at least believe - that he was just a stupid kid doing stupid kid things. But the leaving the scene aspect really does bother me. More than the actual actions (driving drunk, racing, etc). Because that shows a lack of character rather than a lack of sense.

We can agree to disagree and that's ok

So this Sept 30th date now seems more like a punishment... Rice could of just swallowed his cough medicine and ate the 10 games; comeback the 2nd half and be a hero.... but now the NFL will make him pay most likely come to a decision the back half and suspend him the 2nd half of the season.... wonderful; as if Rashee Rice couldn't screw this up anymore

The Sept 30th date is because the designated disciplinary officer is not free until then. That's what's been reported anyway, people are free to think it's not true.

No one is actually saying it's precisely 10 games. It's just been reported as double digits so could be worse.

I think any representation he has would be advising him to do exactly what he's doing. Whatever the amount of games we are talking, 10, 12 or whatever the league is most likely willing to settle on a lower amount and he has plenty of time to work on that and make himself available to the team later in the season.

If it turned out he waited till Sept 30th because he could not reach a settlement, and still got 10+ games then it would turn out he made a mistake but at this point it's hard for me to disagree with how he's handling things.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So this Sept 30th date now seems more like a punishment... Rice could have just swallowed his cough medicine and ate the 10 games; comeback the 2nd half and be a hero....

This isn’t exactly accurate.

The report stated the NFL was seeking “at least 10 games”.

The September 30th date is because of the availability of the judge who will now decide between the NFL, and NFLPA (+Rice) what is fair.

There’s no punishment here based on the date, and reportedly the NFL wanted more than 10 games, so Rice could not have taken his lumps early.

At this point it seems likely that they’ll negotiate something between 6-10, but that’s speculation at this point.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Sept 30th date is because the designated disciplinary officer is not free until then. That's what's been reported anyway, people are free to think it's not true.

Exactly. We were typing at the same time. You type faster.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

Drew Davenport is opining that he now thinks the Rice suspension will be more significant than he originally thought (4-6 games). So I asked him, and would like FBG opinions on these questions.

Couple of opinion questions - will the Chiefs use Rice before the hearing (assuming no settlement)? Other than Xavier Worthy, who is impacted the most by a lengthy suspension? And do we see enough 12 formations to make Noah Gray fantasy worthy?

just kind of shows that "experts" aren't as dialed in has we believe.

I’m no expert. Drew is usually pretty dialed in.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’m no expert. Drew is usually pretty dialed in.

He’s been a little hit & miss on this one. IIRC he didn’t think rice would be suspended at all in 2025. Obviously with changing news things change - but that’s a pretty sizable miss.

I traded for Rice in one league in part based on the optimism of a shorter suspension/not being suspended in 2025.

I drafted him in a SF startup and bought the dip expecting a 4-6 this year. I am deep enough there to take it, but in the league I dealt for him in I might be in trouble.

 

[zeeshan2]

NFL is now aiming for at least a potential six-game suspension for Chiefs WR Rashee Rice for violating the league’s personal conduct policy, sources tell ESPN. The suspension would kick in at the start of this season.

 

[jtd13]

NFL is now aiming for at least a potential six-game suspension for Chiefs WR Rashee Rice for violating the league’s personal conduct policy, sources tell ESPN. The suspension would kick in at the start of this season.

The in me wants to see this as NFL leaking big numbers, so when it's shorter they can say they tried.

But either way, I hope it gets decided before week 1 so us owners can move on! Plus I can move him to Ir and gt that roster spot for a rookie stash

 

[KellysHeroes]

NFL is now aiming for at least a potential six-game suspension for Chiefs WR Rashee Rice for violating the league’s personal conduct policy, sources tell ESPN. The suspension would kick in at the start of this season.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports NFL is aiming for at least a six-game suspension for WR Rashee Rice for violating the league’s personal conduct policy.
According to a previous report from NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero, the NFL initially proposed a 10-game suspension for Rice, which his representatives rebuffed. With the sides unable to reach a settlement on the length of the suspension, his case will be heard by Judge Sue L. Robinson. Rice is going to end up serving the suspension in the middle of the season and the league is still aiming for him to miss a significant portion of the season at potentially six games.

since when does the NFL even ask how long the player can suspended for, and since when do they care what a players representative says

 

[jtd13]

NFL is now aiming for at least a potential six-game suspension for Chiefs WR Rashee Rice for violating the league’s personal conduct policy, sources tell ESPN. The suspension would kick in at the start of this season.

The in me wants to see this as NFL leaking big numbers, so when it's shorter they can say they tried.

But either way, I hope it gets decided before week 1 so us owners can move on! Plus I can move him to Ir and gt that roster spot for a rookie stash

As I hit send, I got the notification that he is accepting the 6 game suspension.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Pelissero says it's done. 6 games to start.

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1960735727211438436

#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice is accepting and will serve a six-game suspension to start the 2025 regular season, per sources. The NFL and NFLPA are working to finalize the settlement, which will end Rice’s disciplinary limbo and make him eligible to return Week 7 vs. Las Vegas.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

edit- nevermind

 

[joey]

Same. Just got notification that he’s accepting 6 game suspension.

I can put the Magic 8 Ball back in the drawer for a while.

 

[efactor]

From Rotoworld:

Well, that changed quickly.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Xavier and Kelce shareholders with the early season bump. Down the stretch and in the playoffs though, could be messy for them.

 

[SanDawg]

Sleeper wasted no time....move him to the Suspended status.....damn

 

[Insein]

Ok this makes it much more clear. Rashee has some value now for late season push.

 

[Terpman22]

Its finally over, a year + of legal posts, guesses on suspensions, "he broke the law!" posts etc, we finally have closure

 

[zeeshan2]

[Pelissero] Contrary to reports, there was never an agreement or plan to have Rashee Rice play the first four games before a Sept. 30 hearing, which was scheduled as a save-the-date. A settlement was always the most likely outcome, and now the sides are finalizing.

 

[Soulfly3]

reality bites

 

[Dez]

6 games exactly what I predicted 3 months ago I got something right

 

[FarFromHome]

Ok this makes it much more clear. Rashee has some value now for late season push.

Unless you start season 0-6. Ha ha

 

[Bossman]

The in me wants to see this as NFL leaking big numbers, so when it's shorter they can say they tried.

But either way, I hope it gets decided before week 1 so us owners can move on! Plus I can move him to Ir and gt that roster spot for a rookie stash

Your league allows suspended players be put on IR?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Pelissero says it's done. 6 games to start.

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1960735727211438436

#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice is accepting and will serve a six-game suspension to start the 2025 regular season, per sources. The NFL and NFLPA are working to finalize the settlement, which will end Rice’s disciplinary limbo and make him eligible to return Week 7 vs. Las Vegas.

That’s substantially better than eight or 10 games starting in November.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Your league allows suspended players be put on IR

No, mine does not. Boat anchor for six games.

 

[jtd13]

The in me wants to see this as NFL leaking big numbers, so when it's shorter they can say they tried.

But either way, I hope it gets decided before week 1 so us owners can move on! Plus I can move him to Ir and gt that roster spot for a rookie stash

Your league allows suspended players be put on IR?

Yes. But we don't need to have that debate.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The in me wants to see this as NFL leaking big numbers, so when it's shorter they can say they tried.

But either way, I hope it gets decided before week 1 so us owners can move on! Plus I can move him to Ir and gt that roster spot for a rookie stash

Your league allows suspended players be put on IR?

Yes. But we don't need to have that debate.

No debate… I’m just jealous.