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EZD222 said:
#civilwar has been trending on my social media from pro-trumpers for the past few days. And on the left I would assume that dems would strongly think a trump win as "stealing" the election esp considering media pundits saying that is the more likely outcome of a trump win (vs it being legitimate). So its probably a precaution against both small scenarios.
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Whoever wins.  The left is gonna attack.    Regardless.     

The left.   Not liberals.

 
Sneegor said:
Looks like Trump might flop two pair against Biden's pocket Aces.  This is going to get interesting.
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Not a great analogy quite frankly.  This would imply Trumps leading fairly early in the hand, nothing is indicating that. Now Trump certainly could go runner runner for the win, but leading up to the river it looks like the odds are on Biden side.  

 
Prinefan said:
Former Gov. John Kasich, who challenged Trump for the GOP nomination in 2016, has been one of Biden’s most vocal Republican backers, lauding his “experience and his wisdom and his decency” at the Democratic convention.

Biden has won the endorsements of four Republican cabinet secretaries; Obama administration Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, and Bush administration Secretary of State Colin Powell and EPA Director Christine Whitman, who appeared at the DNC alongside Kasich.

Anthony Scaramucci, who served as Trump’s White House communications director for just two weeks, endorsed Biden and called Trump “crazy.”

Former Homeland Security Department Chief of Staff Miles Taylor accused Trump of withholding disaster aid from blue states and claiming “magical authorities” above the law and revealed himself to be the author of an anonymous 2018 op-ed in the New York Times about an internal resistance to Trump inside the Trump administration.

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Carly Fiorina, a former Hewlett Packard CEO and GOP presidential candidate who was briefly the running mate of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), said she cannot support Trump and that “elections are binary choices,” while Meg Whitman, another Hewlett Packard CEO, said at the DNC that Trump “has no clue how to run a business, let alone an economy.”

Four former Republican Senators have come out for Biden: David Durenberger of Minnesota and Gordon J. Humphrey of New Hampshire (both independents now), John Warner of Virginia and Jeff Flake of Arizona, who called a Trump second term “a real danger.”

Former Rep. Susan Molinari of New York spoke at the Democratic convention, joining former Reps. Charles Djou of Hawaii and Joe Walsh of Illinois, a former tea partier who challenged Trump for the GOP nomination in 2020 and voted for Biden in Illinois’ open Democratic primary in March, calling Trump a “horrible human being” who “must be defeated.”

Cindy McCain, the widow of Sen. John McCain and mother of The View host Meghan McCain (who also endorsed Biden) narrated a video for the Democratic convention detailing her late husband’s “unlikely friendship” with Biden.

Former Rep. Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania endorsed Biden ahead of the third night of the Democratic convention, declaring, “It’s a sad state of affairs when a president endorses a 9/11 truther,” in reference to Trump’s embrace of Georgia Congressional candidate Marjorie Taylor Greene.

A group of 73 former U.S. national security officials in the Republican administrations, including former heads of the CIA and FBI and Trump administration officials, endorsed Biden, asserting that Trump’s “corrupt behavior renders him unfit to serve as president.” – joined in October by another 50 former officials.

Former Trump Assistant Director of Homeland Security Elizabeth Neumann accused Trump of ignoring the threat of domestic terrorism and early pandemic warnings, claiming he “gave permission” to white supremacists.

On first morning of the GOP convention, the Biden campaign released a list of 27 former GOP lawmakers, including Rep. Bob Inglis of South Carolina, Rep. Jim Kolbe of Arizona, Rep. Jim Greenwood of Pennsylvania, Rep. Jim Leach of Iowa and Mickey Edwards of Oklahoma.

On day three of the GOP Convention, former Republican Senator and Clinton Defense Secretary Bill Cohen endorsed Biden, blasting Trump’s “failed leadership” on coronavirus and calling Biden “a leader with optimism and competence who gives us hope.”

On the final day of the convention, groups of over 100 McCain 2008 and 30 Romney 2012 campaign staffers endorsed Biden, in addition to a group of nearly two dozen George W. Bush campaign and administration staffers.

A group of 100 prominent Republicans and independents, including Todd Whitman, former Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder and former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld, launched a group to campaign, run ads and pen opinion pieces on Biden’s behalf.

A group of 107 former state attorneys general who endorsed Biden for his “commitment to eliminate abuses of power” and belief in “common sense law enforcement” includes six Republicans; Greg Zoeller of Indiana, Mark Shurtleff of Utah, Jim Jones of Idaho, Doug Baily of Alaska, Jeff Amestoy of Vermont and Jeff Pine of Rhode Island.

Olivia Troye, a former Pence aide and White House coronavirus task force member, accused Trump of “flat-out disregard for human life” in his coronavirus response and detailed a hostile work environment within the coronavirus task force that saw aides punished for adhering to science at the expense of the White House’s political benefit.

Former Pennsylvania Gov. and Bush Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge endorsed Biden in a Philadelphia Inquirer op-ed, comparing Trump’s coronavirus response to Bush’s 9/11 response and stating of Trump, “It is not within him. He lacks the empathy, integrity, intellect and maturity to lead.”

Retired Adm. William McRaven, the former commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, endorsed Biden in a Wall Street Journal op-ed warning the U.S. will “pay the highest price for our neglect and shortsightedness” if it fails to “choose the right leader.”

Former RNC Chair and Maryland Lieutenant Gov. Michael Steele endorsed Biden after signing on with The Lincoln Project, an anti-Trump Republican PAC , calling Biden a “good man” and a “trailblazer” while asserting Trump would “plunge our country into chaos.”

In the final stretch of the campaign, Biden won the backing of five lawyers from the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations and Mike Fasano, a Republican former majority leader of the Florida House of Representatives who called himself a “Biden Republican,” and former Commerce Sec. Carlos Gutierrez, who served under George W. Bush.

20 former U.S. Attorneys under Republican presidents going back to Dwight Eisenhower – including Donald Ayer, who served as U.S. Attorney for the District of Nevada under George H.W. Bush – gave Biden their “strongest endorsement” in October, alleging Trump has “politicized the Justice Department.”

Nebraska State Sen. John McCollister became one of the few sitting Republican officials to publicly back Biden in October, telling the Lincoln Journal Star Biden would be “a real president” and “not the disaster” currently working in the White House.

The day before the election, Ryan Mahoney, who served as the Republican National Committee’s communications director as recently as 2019, tweeted, “Proud to vote country over party Proud to vote for @JoeBiden.”

Two other former RNC communications directors, Trevor Francis, who served in the role in 2009, and Lisa Miller, who served in 2007, and told The Hill on Monday that they voted for Biden.

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Numerous Republican media figures, campaign strategists and government officials have even organized PACs dedicated to supporting Biden, such as Republican Voters Against Trump and, most recently, 43 Alumni for Biden. The most notable among them is the Lincoln Project, whose scathing attack ads on Trump have captured the hearts of anti-Trump resistance-minded Democrats.

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“You know, I’m not asking all these Republicans- I don’t even know half of ‘em they’re endorsing me,” Biden told WPXI, a local news affiliate in Pittsburgh. “Have you ever seen more Republicans endorse a Democratic challenger? Of their stature? Not just the Colin Powells. But 76 national security advisors coming out, I don’t even know them.”

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The last living former Republican president, George W. Bush, has said he won’t back Trump. Nor will his brother Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida who was mercilessly ridiculed by Trump when they fought for the GOP nomination in 2016. Trump’s former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and former Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly have both expressed opposition to Trump as well, with Mattis calling him “the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try” and Kelly saying he wished “we had some additional choices.” Other ex-Trump officials have spoken out against him as well, including Homeland Security advisor Tom Bossert, communications staffer Omarosa Manigault, National Economic Council director Gary Cohn, Navy Secretary Richard Spencer, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and National Security advisor John Bolton.

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You mean people of the swamp who lost control of "their" party.

Trump didn't listen to other advisors who he thought were wrong.

 
36Kevon said:
What?  Doesn’t have anything to do with Obama. I was referring to the Great Smash and Grab Epidemic of 2020.  
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You didn't specify 2020, your exact words.

Whatever the radical right is planning it isn’t  looting and rioting the businesses downtown.  We know which groups have been doing that, and it’s just and excuse, it doesn’t matter who wins. 
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And what smash and grab looting and rioting were in response to elections this year?

 
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squistion said:
You didn't specify 2020, your exact words.

And what smash and grab looting and rioting were in response to elections this year?
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The Great Smash and Grab Epidemic of 2020 has been happening for any excuse they can find to smash and grab. The election is just the next big thing.  

 
If Arizona flips, then we won't know results for a couple days.  Biden will need to win 2 of MI, WI, or PA.  And the majority of the early vote won't be counted until tomorrow and Thursday.

 
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Early returns in PA and MI, Trump doing 7% better in Philly and nearly 20% better in Detroit.  If that holds, Trump will won both states.  

 
Snotbubbles said:
Early returns in PA and MI, Trump doing 7% better in Philly and nearly 20% better in Detroit.  If that holds, Trump will won both states.  
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All the votes that were cast on election day have been counted.  Now we get to see if Trump has built up a big enough lead to offset all the early votes.  North Carolina and Ohio had the majority of early votes counted right away and that gave a Blue Mirage.  We will now see if this is a Red mirage.

 
From 538:

NATHANIEL RAKICH
NOV. 3, 11:13 PM
As you plan your sleep schedule for the rest of the week: We should have near-complete unofficial results from Wisconsin early tomorrow morning, as Milwaukee is expected to finish counting around 6 a.m. Eastern. Michigan originally said it would take until Friday to count all of its votes, but officials have revised that estimate to say they’ll be done tomorrow as well. Finally, Pennsylvania results probably won’t be known until Friday.

 
Would feel like FOX announcing that Arizona was going to Biden...what is CNN waiting on? They barely waited for CA polls to close to run the number into Biden's count, the least they could do is start celebrating. 

Not looking good for Trump tonight, it was a good run, the media said it was a Biden Blowout and I'm sure they will be proven right. All they need to do is grab a Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, there's no way he can do what he did in 2016. 

It's over, Trump was a 4% chance of winning anyways, it would be a miracle if he held on thru this current climate. Are they really going to keep this charade going all night? 

I did hear George on ABC say something like "Repeat of 2016" but again that's probably just juicing up the game. When you have a lopsided event similar to the Chiefs vs Jets, you expect a blowout and to hear George say that, seemed odd so early in the night. 

Did the Democrats really think they would take Florida? 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Would feel like FOX announcing that Arizona was going to Biden...what is CNN waiting on? They barely waited for CA polls to close to run the number into Biden's count, the least they could do is start celebrating. 

Not looking good for Trump tonight, it was a good run, the media said it was a Biden Blowout and I'm sure they will be proven right. All they need to do is grab a Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, there's no way he can do what he did in 2016. 

It's over, Trump was a 4% chance of winning anyways, it would be a miracle if he held on thru this current climate. Are they really going to keep this charade going all night? 

I did hear George on ABC say something like "Repeat of 2016" but again that's probably just juicing up the game. When you have a lopsided event similar to the Chiefs vs Jets, you expect a blowout and to hear George say that, seemed odd so early in the night. 

Did the Democrats really think they would take Florida? 
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He won Ohio. If he holds onto GA and NC, then Trump needs 2 of WI, MI, and PA, right?

It’s not close to over.

 
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