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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (8 Viewers)

OK what a circus this is going to be. 

There’s going to be a resolution about the witnesses to be voted on. But any senator can offer an amendment adding a witness and each one must be voted on separately. So this alone could take hours if somebody like Hawley or Cruz proposes one witness after another. 
Once that is done the witnesses have to be deposed privately and then they vote again on who to hear. 

 
timschochet said:
OK what a circus this is going to be. 

There’s going to be a resolution about the witnesses to be voted on. But any senator can offer an amendment adding a witness and each one must be voted on separately. So this alone could take hours if somebody like Hawley or Cruz proposes one witness after another. 
Once that is done the witnesses have to be deposed privately and then they vote again on who to hear. 
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Senate wasn't done  much of anything meaningful for the American people in years so why start now. Covid and the stimulus are what's needed now and can be done without the Republicans. So just keep moving on without them.

 
anywhere taking bets on witnesses?  curious what the odds on the Q Shaman in full beastiality drag is fetching.

 
beef said:
anywhere taking bets on witnesses?  curious what the odds on the Q Shaman in full beastiality drag is fetching.
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Not sure why Dems would vote to let lawyers who've lied during their defense do anything to further muddy the waters.  Seems easy enough to allow Herrera to testify and vote down anyone not relevant to Trump's incitement (which is what's on trial here).

 
timschochet said:
McConnell’s letter makes it clear that his decision is all about jurisdiction. He won’t touch the question of what Trump did or did not do. 
There will be perhaps 3-4 Republicans that will vote to convict, perhaps 5. 
 
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Didn’t the Senate vote on jurisdiction? So he’s ignoring that Senate vote? Just clarifying. 

 
dgreen said:
Didn’t the Senate vote on jurisdiction? So he’s ignoring that Senate vote? Just clarifying. 
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He doesn't have to cast a vote in line with the Senate's findings. For example, the Supreme Court can say definitively that something is constitutional. It doesn't mean that one is bound to vote affirmatively yes or no on legislation regarding that question of constitutionality. One can exercise discretion and say, "as a representative, I find this unconstitutional and therefore will not vote on it either way because I don't think we have jurisdiction or a constitutional role to play."

It's a wimp move, but it's a perfectly valid approach, and even can be sound in some instances.

 
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Now they’re trying to agree to a written deposition by Butler. That would solve this quickly. But not sure they can get this done. 

 
timschochet said:
This is quite fascinating. Witnesses will make this very dramatic despite the fact that the conclusion is still predictable. 
Biden won’t be happy, because this means that the trial is going to stretch into next week month.
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 Fixed that.  This could go on quite a while.  

beef said:
and go to philiahdelphiah or however he said it.  Senate laughed at him and it looked like he was going to cry.  :lmao:
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He's right, though.  Nothing like a pop up trial.

 
timschochet said:
No because the Senate will vote down almost all the witnesses the defense calls for. So none of that threat will happen. 
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Optics of doing so will not look good.  Even if they are blocking irrelevant witnesses like Nancy Pelosi.   They don’t have the votes.  I don’t think this is a good idea.  They’ve won the case in the public square, which is the only place it is meaningfully being tried anyway. 

 
zoonation said:
Optics of doing so will not look good.  Even if they are blocking irrelevant witnesses like Nancy Pelosi.   They don’t have the votes.  I don’t think this is a good idea.  They’ve won the case in the public square, which is the only place it is meaningfully being tried anyway. 
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Pelosi is relevant, shes in charge of Capitol police who were woefully unprepared. And she refused help from the national guard.  

 
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Isn't there a process where Republicans could agree that Buetler's statement is true and eliminate the need to put her under oath?  Wonder why they won't do that?

 
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timschochet said:
Hey man if you don’t support Trump, if you think he should be convicted here, just say so. I’ll apologize. 
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Taking up a cause and making fun of someone else's cause that was doomed to fail before it started are two very different things.  

You dont apologize, you patronize.  

 
tonydead said:
Pelosi is relevant, shes in charge of Capitol police who were woefully unprepared. And she refused help from the national guard.  
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No, she isn't. 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9909210228

Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection

CLAIM: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is in charge of overseeing the Capitol Police, is responsible for security failures that allowed the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol to happen.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Pelosi does not oversee day-to-day operations of the Capitol Police.

THE FACTS: After the deadly riot at the Capitol, social media users began sharing posts that blamed Pelosi for security shortfalls that allowed the building Capitol to be breached.

[...]

 
squistion said:
No, she isn't. 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9909210228

Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection

CLAIM: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is in charge of overseeing the Capitol Police, is responsible for security failures that allowed the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol to happen.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Pelosi does not oversee day-to-day operations of the Capitol Police.

THE FACTS: After the deadly riot at the Capitol, social media users began sharing posts that blamed Pelosi for security shortfalls that allowed the building Capitol to be breached.

[...]
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Thanks. Good to know the background on the far-right conspiracy theories being spread here.

 
Kind of feel for the defense team.  Not like MTG feeling a cardboard penis, but in sympathy.  Pretty sure their retainer checks haven't cleared yet and now they need to donate even more of their time.  

 
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