Dynasty & Redraft: RB Zack Moss, Bills

[zamboni 6,689]

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Edited September 24, 2020 by zamboni

[ahartig 295]

52 minutes ago, gbill2004 said:

Turf toe 

This an assumption/best guess, or is there a source?

[gbill2004 182]

7 minutes ago, ahartig said:

This an assumption/best guess, or is there a source?

Just a guess. But that's often what a toe injury is for an RB. 

[Hot Sauce Guy 8,910]

54 minutes ago, gbill2004 said:

Just a guess. But that's often what a toe injury is for an RB. 

Or it could be the dreaded “Wednesday toe”. 😱

[gbill2004 182]

36 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Or it could be the dreaded “Wednesday toe”. 😱

That's my favourite toe!

[kyoun1e 897]

Want to hold this guy but between Allen running it in, Singletary looking pretty good, and now an injury he's a tough hold.

If he doesn't practice tmrw and there's more (negative) clarity on any toe injury I may have to drop and hope he can fly under the waiver radar for a couple weeks. Can't hold luxury items now.

[Faust 5,032]

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Bills RB Zack Moss (toe) was not at practice Thursday. 

Moss wasn't on the injury report in the first two weeks, but has now missed two straight practices. Friday's practice will prove critical for the rookie's availability this week against the Rams. If Moss were to sit, Devin Singletary would profile as a low-end RB2 this week. The Rams have allowed the 10th most rushing yardage per game this year, and opposing backs have seen 18 targets against LA's defense. 

RELATED: 

Devin Singletary

SOURCE: Joe Buscaglia on Twitter 

Sep 24, 2020, 12:28 PM ET

 

 

[Max55 56]

21 hours ago, kyoun1e said:

Want to hold this guy but between Allen running it in, Singletary looking pretty good, and now an injury he's a tough hold.

If he doesn't practice tmrw and there's more (negative) clarity on any toe injury I may have to drop and hope he can fly under the waiver radar for a couple weeks. Can't hold luxury items now.

Yeah I’m in the same spot. 

Im seriously consider dropping him to handcuff Mixon.  

[Terpman22 212]

Ruled OUT this weekend, per HC Sean McD.

[kyoun1e 897]

1 hour ago, Terpman22 said:

Ruled OUT this weekend, per HC Sean McD.

Yikes. Ruled out early Friday not a great sign.

Turf toe? I wonder if this is a multi week injury.

May indeed be forced to drop to fill some other holes. Don't want to do it, but he may get passed over in waivers next week if he's got a nice red IR next to his name and has a projection of zero.

[zamboni 6,689]

Just now, kyoun1e said:

Yikes. Ruled out early Friday not a great sign.

 

That's what I was thinking. If it were just a nagging thing, they might have given it until Sunday morning and put him on the inactive list.

[gbill2004 182]

He's out a minimum of 2-3 weeks according to Dr Jesse

[ahartig 295]

15 minutes ago, gbill2004 said:

He's out a minimum of 2-3 weeks according to Dr Jesse

You would think if this was the case that would just send him to IR for 3 weeks

[gbill2004 182]

4 minutes ago, ahartig said:

You would think if this was the case that would just send him to IR for 3 weeks

FYI 2-3 weeks = might just be 2 weeks

[Alex P Keaton 3,931]

1 hour ago, gbill2004 said:

He's out a minimum of 2-3 weeks according to Dr Jesse

What does Uncle Jesse say?

[zamboni 6,689]

1 hour ago, gbill2004 said:

He's out a minimum of 2-3 weeks according to Dr Jesse

I wish that I had Jesse’s knowledge.

[Faust 5,032]

2 minutes ago, zamboni said:

I wish that I had Jesse’s knowledge.

What about Jesse’s girl?

[gbill2004 182]

3 minutes ago, zamboni said:

I wish that I had Jesse’s knowledge.

Agreed. He's a great resource 

[gbill2004 182]

Just now, Faust said:

What about Jesse’s girl?

She's cute

[zamboni 6,689]

2 minutes ago, Faust said:

What about Jesse’s girl?

You’re slipping, GB. 😉

[kyoun1e 897]

16 hours ago, gbill2004 said:

He's out a minimum of 2-3 weeks according to Dr Jesse

Who the hell is Dr. Jesse?

[Ghost Rider 6,218]

14 hours ago, gbill2004 said:

She's cute

As cute as Stacy's mom?

[gbill2004 182]

2 hours ago, kyoun1e said:

Who the hell is Dr. Jesse?

He's a legit fantasy football doctor.  Does an analysis of each NFL injury.  He's based out of Miami.  You're missing out if you're not following him.  

[sho nuff 16,589]

Returned to practice today...someone dropped him with the injury and Im considering him.  Would drop my Mostert cuff of Wilson Jr or Kelley (but think he and Moss are about equals)

[Milkman 2,348]

Glad he's rushing back. Probably won't be 100% all year. 

[Faust 5,032]

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Bills RB Zack Moss (toe) practiced on a limited basis Thursday. 

Moss returned to practice Wednesday after missing Week 3's game against the Rams. Barring a setback, Moss should get the green light this week against the Raiders. In Week 2, Moss didn't run a pass route -- a surprising change in usage after he looked to emerge as the team's pass catching back in Week 1. Moss would cut into Devin Singletary's touches if he's a go this week. 

RELATED: 

Devin Singletary

SOURCE: Chris Brown on Twitter 

Oct 1, 2020, 3:41 PM ET

 

[candian fantasy guy 155]

These writers so want him to be better than he has been. The bias, it's comical.

[zamboni 6,689]

17 minutes ago, candian fantasy guy said:

These writers so want him to be better than he has been. The bias, it's comical.

I agree the hype has gotten a bit overblown based upon him flashing in camp - and before he faced actual defenses. 

That said, he still may be all that once he gets more acclimated to the NFL game. We’ll see.

Edited October 1, 2020 by zamboni

[Dr. Octopus 15,763]

41 minutes ago, candian fantasy guy said:

These writers so want him to be better than he has been. The bias, it's comical.

What did they say in that blurb that was inaccurate or sensationalized?

[candian fantasy guy 155]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

What did they say in that blurb that was inaccurate or sensationalized?

This one is not as bad, I suppose. But "a surprising change in usage after he looked to emerge as the team's pass catching back in Week 1." That seems to indicate that he was good week 1, right? He did get a TD, on a scramble drill, that was one of a few good plays for him that game. Singletary has been better, every game so far. 

 

They've been pushing Moss since the draft(many writers) and they will continue due to their chasing being "right" about this. 

[DirtyCashDylan 78]

7 hours ago, candian fantasy guy said:

This one is not as bad, I suppose. But "a surprising change in usage after he looked to emerge as the team's pass catching back in Week 1." That seems to indicate that he was good week 1, right? He did get a TD, on a scramble drill, that was one of a few good plays for him that game. Singletary has been better, every game so far. 

 

They've been pushing Moss since the draft(many writers) and they will continue due to their chasing being "right" about this. 

Something tells me you're a Singletary owner

[Endowed 308]

Singletary has been better every step of the way. And that includes a terrific 2019 campaign to prop it upon.

*I dont own DS anywhere. Zero shares.

[Dr. Octopus 15,763]

12 hours ago, candian fantasy guy said:

This one is not as bad, I suppose. But "a surprising change in usage after he looked to emerge as the team's pass catching back in Week 1." That seems to indicate that he was good week 1, right?

No, it means he was used as the passing down back which was true. 

[candian fantasy guy 155]

47 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

No, it means he was used as the passing down back which was true. 

He had 4 targets in the first game and 4 in his second. Devin has 15  total in those 2 games. 

 

I'm not sure that was or is true.

 

Edited October 2, 2020 by candian fantasy guy

[Dr. Octopus 15,763]

7 minutes ago, candian fantasy guy said:

He had 4 targets in the first game and 4 in his second. Devin had 15 and 7 in those games. 

 

I'm not sure that was or is true.

 

Your target numbers are wrong - not even close. Maybe you’re the one showing bias?

I also watched Week 1 as a Jets fan, Moss was the third down back (even though Singletary did have more targets but it was 7 v 4). 

Edited October 2, 2020 by Dr. Octopus

[zamboni 6,689]

Seems way too early to see how the division of labor will be. They've played together for only two games.

Singletary has certainly played well in the first three games in both the running and receiving game, and thus I'm sure has earned his fair share of the pie. But Moss isn't just going away as long as he is healthy - that is something I've come to accept as a Singletary (but not Moss) owner. 

[candian fantasy guy 155]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Your target numbers are wrong - not even close. Maybe you’re the one showing bias?

I also watched Week 1 as a Jets fan, Moss was the third down back (even though Singletary did have more targets but it was 5 v 4). 

7 targets in week 1 and 3 in week 2. 15 was total in 3 games, my bad. 

Edited October 2, 2020 by candian fantasy guy

[Steve Tasker 8,147]

19 hours ago, candian fantasy guy said:

These writers so want him to be better than he has been. The bias, it's comical.

Just for the record, Chris Brown (apparently the source of the comment that Faust posted) is the Bills official team beat writer.  He works for the Bills; by virtue of that fact alone, his Bills writings are always extremely positive and very rarely is he critical of a player. 

[zamboni 6,689]

Moss listed as questionable for Sunday.

[Faust 5,032]

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Bills RB Zack Moss (toe) is questionable for Week 4 against the Raiders.

Moss return to practice mid-week and was limited for every session. Devin Singletary handled 17 of Buffalo's 20 backfield touches without Moss in Week 3, but that workload will ultimately be diviid up again if Moss is able to return. He'll be a boom-or-bust RB4 if cleared for Sunday.

SOURCE: Buffalo Bills PR on Twitter

Oct 2, 2020, 2:29 PM ET

 

[Faust 5,032]

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Bills RB Zack Moss (toe) is inactive for Week 5 against the Titans. 

It's surprising after Moss practice in full on Saturday. His absence locks Devin Singletary into 15-20 touches, and perhaps beyond. Unless he suffered a setback that has yet to be reported, Moss should finally be ready to return for next Monday's game against the Chiefs. 

Oct 13, 2020, 5:39 PM ET

 

 

[iamkoza 507]

He practiced in full this week. Are they keeping him down on purpose? Losing patience in redraft. Curious if this was a coach's call and not a health issue?

[chad in Indy 220]

2 hours ago, iamkoza said:

He practiced in full this week. Are they keeping him down on purpose? Losing patience in redraft. Curious if this was a coach's call and not a health issue?

Maybe some news comes out tomorrow, but if I had to guess, it would be they needed depth on the active roster at other positions due to injuries, and Moss doesn't play special teams.  

Purely speculation.... .. 

[iamkoza 507]

19 hours ago, chad in Indy said:

Maybe some news comes out tomorrow, but if I had to guess, it would be they needed depth on the active roster at other positions due to injuries, and Moss doesn't play special teams.  

Purely speculation.... .. 

Yeldon doesn't play special teams and he was active

[chad in Indy 220]

45 minutes ago, iamkoza said:

Yeldon doesn't play special teams and he was active

Idk.  Was just speculation. 

[LawFitz 1,071]

Perhaps he got ahead of himself, but the Bills were 4-0, with a two-win divisional lead heading into this game; maybe McDermott went the conservative route and tried to protect Moss from re-aggravating the dreaded, so that he's fully available to them for the stretch run later in the year. I know the thought would've crossed my mind. That's the rosy scenario, at least.

[Insein 10,561]

[Manster 786]

10 hours ago, LawFitz said:

Perhaps he got ahead of himself, but the Bills were 4-0, with a two-win divisional lead heading into this game; maybe McDermott went the conservative route and tried to protect Moss from re-aggravating the dreaded, so that he's fully available to them for the stretch run later in the year. I know the thought would've crossed my mind. That's the rosy scenario, at least.

I've got him stashed on my bench hoping for this rosy scenario......it's not like theres a lot out there on the WW anyway

[Faust 5,032]

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Bills RB Zack Moss (toe) practiced in full Friday. 

After being a surprise Week 5 inactive, Moss looks to be ready to play against the Chiefs in Week 6. A fully-healthy Moss will likely lead to a smaller snap share and fewer touches for Devin Singletary, who has seen a major boost in both categories since Moss injured his toe. It's notable that Moss didn't run a pass route in his most recent game -- Week 2 against Miami -- while seeing eight carries. Moss would only be startable this week in deeper formats. 

RELATED: 

Devin Singletary

SOURCE: Chris Brown on Twitter 

Oct 16, 2020, 3:10 PM ET

 

[zamboni 6,689]

Singletary hasn’t exactly lit it up, but Moss has not impressed at all thus far. Granted it’s a small sample size and Moss could eventually  emerge, but it shows yet again that you have to take training camp with a big grain of salt.