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Steady Mooobin
Footballguy
It has just begun, IMO.
All these new guys are playing under the Brady rules.
dhockster
Footballguy
To counter that, while physically they can play longer, the salaries for top QB's are so high that these guys are set financially by the time they get to their 30's. Retiring young means they get to enjoy life while they are young, and before they get a debilitating injury.
Obviously, for Brady, playing the game is what he loves, not sitting by the pool with his hot wife sipping martinis. The QB's playing into their 40's will be limited to the ultra-competitive types who might love the game more than life itself.
yak651
Footballguy
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Prescott was 23-43 and was under 50% until SF gave Cowboys 4 easy completions when in prevent at the end. Big game and Dak did not play well and add in the blunder at the end, it was not a good day for Prescott.
When you hold out and make the big bucks there are big expectations. Did not hear one pundit say Dak played well, just the opposite in fact.
Banger
Footballguy
Dak was waaay to slow with his decision making...took too long on nearly every throw. He then seemingly refused to step up and run to alleviate the pressure and instead took sacks. Very poor performance by Dak and the game plan was horrendous. Dallas blew a good opportunity and should have won that game on paper but unfortunately for Dallas you need to actually play the game. Terribly coached team.
simey
Footballguy
Yes, Moore is the offensive playcaller, and he called the running play at the end of the game. McCarthy confirmed it on the headset.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
I don’t understand why Kellen Moore is highly regarded as an OC. The offense seems to play right at their talent level, not above and probably not below…the qb draw play call was terrible.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I'm not a GB fan but I'll never forget that historic collapse in the 2014 NFC championship game. It was during that game that I realized the only chance the Packers truly had to not blow that lead was for MM to bench himself. It was the only time in my life that I felt bad for a Packers loss. It was one of the worst displays of risk-adverse play calling and clock management that I've ever seen.
Steady Mooobin
Footballguy
I think Jerry is still upset that he lost Sean Payton and feels like Kellen Moore is a second chance to rectify that mistake.Sam Quentin said:
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Steady Mooobin
Footballguy
I want Quinn more than MM and Moore but my gripe with Dan Quinn is two things- he too much of a players coach and he talks WAAAAAAY too much at pressers. If you let him he will literally tell you his entire defensive scheme.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Apparently not a fan of Cooper’s play either
https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-expresses-frustration-with-wr-amari-cooper
https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-expresses-frustration-with-wr-amari-cooper
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Looking good again tonight
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I mean eventually you’re going to be right but I don’t think you get a indefinite hawt take.
Looking good again tonight
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Fair post SB22I mean eventually you’re going to be right but I don’t think you get a indefinite hawt take.
Looking good again tonight
-I knew the Countdown was not going to be 1 season and even 2 would have been awfully fast but I can see the end this year, largely because Dak will end up missing a good chunk of time during his tenure.
Please understand, it's not like I have personal hate involved here. I just think McCarthy is overrated but that said Rodgers track history in the NFCC is not stellar either. So maybe he gets too much blame?
-Jerry will take his frustrations out one way or the other.
Let's switch to something I want to discuss with Dallas fans and you might need some time to process what I am going to say and ask the Dallas fan base.
-Dak is gone for 2 months/Half the season and he might not be 100% when he gets back, take some time to get him up to full speed. With that in mind and even with a light schedule in front of you for a few weeks, isn't it better to just toss the '22 season out the window and get ready to have a high draft pick in 2023? This feels like a wonderful opp for a team that has talent already and could position themselves for Dak's eventual successor. You must factor in his health in 2 of the last 3 seasons, maybe they need to draft another QB.
-With Cooper Rush, sky's the limit on how many losses they absorb. Put Dak on IR in a few weeks, say the rehab isn't going as fast as ownership had hoped and they need to make roster space, keep Dak out for the season and they could possibly lose as many as 13-14-15 games?
Opportunity like this only comes along so often.
-National Media has Dallas trading for someone else's back up or a team like Miami calling and offering Teddy Bridgewater. Quite frankly, I didn't see a lot from Dallas before Dak was injured last night, granted they won't play the Bucs each week.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Jerry notorious for keeping assistant coaches around on staff in case things go South, McCarthy can make Moore the scapegoat but my memories would point to Coach MM getting the hook and Moore taking over as head coach for the rest of the year to see how he does.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Then why did he wait so long to fire Garrett?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Good question, because Jerry hand picked him and pushed Wade Phillips out the door, wanted to give him every last opportunity to be the head coach Jerry wanted him to be. He also had some control over the team with Garrett running things. He was a pushover in many ways for Jerry.
The Finist
Footballguy
Bottom 10 coach. Could argue bottom 5 easily.
McCarthy is easy to pile on but he's not wrong here. This is not his offense, it's Moore's, and it's this way because that's the way Jerry told him it was going to be if he wanted to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
This could be the year. Already thought Dallas had a questionable roster and the injuries have darkened the view further
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I think that's right
I'd say he's 2-6 at hiring coaches, though amazingly the only one with a losing record is Campo.
Manster
Footballguy
I hate Jerry Jones. He has single handedly eroded my passion as a fan. He pissed all over Landry. He ran Jimmy outa town, declared he could win with any coach, and brought in that buffoon Switzer. Since then he has been chasing his tail. He is a horrible GM. And the worst part of it is, his ego tells him to keep trying to be a "football guy". I'm so tired of hearing him talk about the team to the media.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I was as diehard a Cowboy fan as could be beginning around 1972. Somewhere around 99-01 it all turned to apathy, and it's never coming back; however, seeing NFC East rivals struggle and suck is still a source of joy.
I think Jerry's an easy guy to blame and the same stuff gets repeated over and over but I can't say I really agree with most it.
Landry's time was up, could have handled with a lot more finesse but his time was up. Past up.
Jimmy was only able to be run out of town because Jerry hired him in the first place. However you want to slice up the credit for those SB wins, Jimmy or Jerry, none of it happens if Jerry does not take unpopular move of ousting Landry and hiring Jimmy.
He kind of proved his point about winning with any coach because that Switzer won a SB.
He's GM in title and has final say but he employs Will McKay who is pretty much a defacto GM and one of the best in the game IMO. Again however you want to credit this is not a team that has drafted poorly or lacks talent, at least not over the last few years.
Which brings me to what makes a football guy a football guy? Does playing on a national championship college football team under the mentorship of the great Frank Broyles and being a very hands on owner even to point of carrying the GM title for 30 years not qualify? Just because you are a great businessmen it does not mean you can't be a football guy in addition to.
As Jerry once famously said, " I hope you liked those 3 SB's, I hope you liked them very much". Granted the 90's was a long time ago but there are a lot of teams that have existed a lot longer then years he's owned the team that have not sniffed one, a few who can't even make it to the SB.
Now I don't think he's blameless, just don't agree with a lot of the re-hased opinions. I do think he meddles to much in the coaching aspect, wants a head coach he can assert a manner of control over. And while he is a true football fan and wants to win sometimes I get a vibe from him he does not properly live and die on it either, that so long as the business side is winning he's good. Jerry World and the Star are first class facilities that I'm sure the players appreciate but it almost feels to cush for developing a hard nosed team. The way he runs training camp and the whole thing really could sometimes be more out of the Ringling brothers playbook then traditional football teams run their operation. These to me are all valid issues to raise or have.
And lastly I'm not a Cowboys fan, live in the area and have met Jerry numerous times. But I'd guess if I was a Cowboys fan I'd be sick of hearing him talk all the time as well and part of that is he gives off a vibe that the Cowboys are his. Which of course is true but that's not the vibe you want to give off, you want to to make fans think their team is theirs, at least try and create that allusion but he's way to quick to always let everyone know it's his show, because ego.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
Ooof.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
195-0 when up 14+ in the 4th Q
Dallas 28
Green 14
and now...drum roll please...
195-1
Dallas 28
Green 31
What can you say? I thought for sure they were going to put him up on their shoulders if they won the game and continued to blow them out.
Didn't Dak throw a couple interception in the 1st Half, kind of took points off the board? Someone gifted all those point to Green Bay, CeeDee Lamb have a hand in any of that?
Dallas 28
Green 14
and now...drum roll please...
195-1
Dallas 28
Green 31
What can you say? I thought for sure they were going to put him up on their shoulders if they won the game and continued to blow them out.
Didn't Dak throw a couple interception in the 1st Half, kind of took points off the board? Someone gifted all those point to Green Bay, CeeDee Lamb have a hand in any of that?
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Was there a thread title change here? I thought this was a pitchfork thread.
In 16 seasons as an NFL head coach (including this season), McCarthy has made the playoffs 11 times.
https://twitter.com/rjochoa
In 16 seasons as an NFL head coach (including this season), McCarthy has made the playoffs 11 times.
https://twitter.com/rjochoa
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Should be a cake walk into the Semi-Finals with a road trip into the comfy confines of Tampa Bay where Tom Brady likely awaits
Could unfold a little differently but that appears to be the likely scenario if Tampa Bay can knock off Carolina this weekend
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Assuming Dallas makes some real noise in the Playoffs...
at Tampa Bay, the Bucs might be 8-9 hosting a Playoff game, this is made for Dallas to storm in and take out the Pirates
at Philly would be the next likely scenario. The Eagles are not exactly Playoff tested with the bunch they have right now. Dallas is one of the few teams you could see beating Philly
at Minnesota would likely be the NFCC, if not that game then it would be San Fran and the media would go nuts with a throwback to the early 90s.
I said Countdown to the End when Coach MM was first hired, this is the end of Year 3, he's still making goofy coaching mistakes but things seem to be working out even though they likely will not win the Division. Hard to imagine McCarthy fired in the off season, safe bet he is coming back for Year 4. That would make 2 coaches in the last 12 years for Jerry Jones? Can't say he isn't patient
at Tampa Bay, the Bucs might be 8-9 hosting a Playoff game, this is made for Dallas to storm in and take out the Pirates
at Philly would be the next likely scenario. The Eagles are not exactly Playoff tested with the bunch they have right now. Dallas is one of the few teams you could see beating Philly
at Minnesota would likely be the NFCC, if not that game then it would be San Fran and the media would go nuts with a throwback to the early 90s.
I said Countdown to the End when Coach MM was first hired, this is the end of Year 3, he's still making goofy coaching mistakes but things seem to be working out even though they likely will not win the Division. Hard to imagine McCarthy fired in the off season, safe bet he is coming back for Year 4. That would make 2 coaches in the last 12 years for Jerry Jones? Can't say he isn't patient
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Dallas is down their starting center, right tackle, a corner, slot corner, and a starting linebacker off the top of my head
They’ll be lucky to beat Tampa
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