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PPR, not knowing what teams each are going to, I'd slot him in between - Carter/Moore/Gainwell. I'd probably reverse that order in non-ppr.
Yes. Carter is probably climbing my board right now though. I doubt he catches Moore though. If Carter goes to a good landing spot it will be a real decision.
Gainwell is probably the best receiving back in the draft (some have Etienne). Both Carter and Gainwell can catch, so PPR or not shouldn't make a difference between the two, but if non-ppr I would lean Carter for sure. I don't think either back will be a bell cow, but I think Gainwell is more likely suited for the 3rd down role. Carter has great vision (best in the draft IMO) and his BMI is better than Gainwell's, but he also most likely will never see more than 12 touches per game. Moore probably has the highest ceiling of the 3 players from a fantasy perspective. So, if you're RB needy team I could see taking either Gainwell or Carter over Moore as long as you know you're drafting for need and passing on the higher ceiling guy in Moore.
Yeah I think that is correct. There are some other RBs that might enter this same scenario, though. What if my RB needy team picks up someone like Jefferson or Hubbard (just an example, I don't know if you have other RBs ahead of Carter or Gainwell) a couple picks earlier and I feel satisfied with it? Then E Moore is a slam. It might all depend on what other capital I'm working with. Maybe I already got one of the top 3 backs and feel good with it.
I would never consider Jefferson or Hubbard over Moore or Carter and Gainwell. I know Hubbard is still mocked in the 2nd round of rookie drafts and I don't agree with it. I wouldn't touch him before the 3rd round.
Yeah I mean just as examples though. I've got Moore solidly above any RB that isn't in the top 3. And I think even against those guys Moore has an argument. Not at his likely ADP but just in terms of who is going to be more valuable in a year. He could easily outperform a busted RB. But I'm just saying if one of those lesser RBs lands in a good spot it will be a tough decision at the end of the 1st.
This is one situation where it wouldn't be a tough decision for me. I just don't think either of those two RBs landing spot would make me take either over Moore....but that's just me.
No based on what I know today, which is to say not knowing landing spots, I would take both RB's over Moore and I've been moving Moore between WR4-5 right now so not like I'm down on him.JohnnyU said:
Yea and it's one I've had in my mind a few times, especially as it relates to my late round one picks. But I keep coming back to same thought and that it's probably not doing me a lot of good mulling over right now because the NFL draft will likely make it more clear and if it's clear to me it's also probably more clear to my comp.
I can see that. I think he would perfect to Buffalo in Round 2. He’s a supercharged Cole Beasley and could transition to take over that role.
He's been in the discussion for the WR4 spot off the Draft Board and if that's true than a Playoff caliber team from the late 1st Rd sounds like they will take him. I would prefer Miami pass on all 3 top WRs, take Pitts if they cannot trade back again on Draft Day
I'm late to the conversation, and the NFL draft can obviously change it, but I'd rather have E Moore over both. I don't think either RB is special. I doubt either winds up being much more than a 3rd down back. I think these later round RB's get pushed into the back of round 1 a lot because of position scarcity. And you're kind of rolling the dice hoping you get a hit at the all-important RB position. If we're in a draft without much in the way of skill position guys--I get it. But that's how I see Carter/Gainwell. I don't think either is worth a 1st round pick.
I think you underestimate Carter. Go see Matt Waldman's video on him. As of right now I probably lean Carter over Moore. He has a better BMI than Gainwell and like Gainwell, is good at catching the ball. He's a better runner than Gainwell and his vision is better than any RB in this class. Moore is not without warts also
Thanks. I'll check out Waldman's video.I think you underestimate Carter. Go see Matt Waldman's video on him. As of right now I probably lean Carter over Moore. He has a better BMI than Gainwell and like Gainwell, is good at catching the ball. He's a better runner than Gainwell and his vision is better than any RB in this class. Moore is not without warts also
His value seems to be all over the place. Some have him in the same tier as Chase, Waddle, Smith, and Bateman and some have him in the next tier with Marshall. I still see him as an end of round 1 or early round 2 pick in start 1qb dynasty leagues. There will be outliers however.
There's a case to be made that he is the #1 WR in this draft. <== that's a joke.
#2 on my boards and I'm not talking dynasty FF, just pure NFL talent and ability, really like this kid a lot and think he will have a steady NFL career. Not very tall but has the right combo of speed, hands, and ability to make the tough catch, can lay out for passes which is vital when you get in the NFL, I think he is ready to roll.
