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I don't think capitalism uses the backing of the government to eliminate market enemies.
This is 100% accurate. For years I've been telling anyone who will listen that Twitter is the only sensible way to consume news. I diligently follow people I know will infuriate me again and again, because I always want to balance the voices I agree with.
If Roe is actually overturned, the backlash will be overwhelming, and before it’s all said and done abortion will be more accessible than before. You’re never going to outlaw abortion permanently, At the most the new restrictions will be very temporary.
For what it’s worth, I agree with @IvanKaramazovabout affirmative action and abortion, but I agree with @timschochetabout transgender stuff.
I assume you know I wasn't making a value judgment, just trying to answer a question you had asked.
I took a quick scan through the first page of those results. None of them were jokes about Trump and pee tapes. More than 50% of them were BladeRunner complaining about the media and "the Trump pee tapes". Almost all of them were conservatives complaining about the same.
FWIW, I don't have any objection to much of what you just described. I have mixed feelings about minors transitioning, but I'm not actively opposed to it. The other stuff is all fine.
That article doesn’t contradict me. Hanson predicts a conservative backlash coming this November and I agree with him. But my argument is that conservatives win short term victories and liberals win long term victories.
I'd be fine with this outcome, by the way. My preference is for Roe to be formally repudiated, but gutting it and allowing states to effectively ban abortion would be okay too.
My point is that we’re not really disagreeing. I know how angry many conservatives are. I know how deep the backlash goes. It will lead to many conservative victories in the coming months and years. I just don’t believe that any of these will be permanent.
When somebody offers to agree to disagree, you can just leave it at that. It's not an invitation to repeat the exact same argument-free raw assertions that you've posted several times before.
I'm all for more States rights as well. On the flip side Colorado just passed a Abortion Rights bill.
This all makes a lot more sense if you understand that tim thinks he's basing his predictions on how these issues have played out in the US historically. What he's really basing them on is an idiosyncratic way of framing the issue.
Well this is a pretty correct analysis of my thinking, except I obviously don’t believe I’m being idiosyncratic. I would argue that your attempt to place elements of the woke movement within the framework of religious fundamentalism is itself idiosyncratic (though certainly interesting.)
There is also an important point here: only a few short years ago, the gay rights movement was NOT winning. My own liberal state of California passed a proposition (voted for by a majority of the public here) which made same marriage illegal. It was considered a huge victory for religious conservatives.
This is very close to what Twitter did. They applied their “requiring Tweet removal” consequence. Although “read-only” could be considered a ban.The Commish said:
Maybe it's me, but I think you're going to have to unpack how wheat germ is funny.FairWarning said:
I should add that the woke movement is not the first time we've seen a fundamentalist moral panic erupt in a secular setting. The red scare in the 1950s was very similar, which is why it inspired so many parallels to the Salem witch trials.timschochet said:
Yeah, the gay thing and the trans thing are not really similar. Like, at all.timschochet said:
Im talking about if someone made a joke about wheat germ, no one would be offended
You say they’re not similar but I will point out that this exact same argument, almost word for word, was used t repeatedly by religious conservatives in opposition to the gay rights movement.
This is an area I’ve disagreed strongly with your moderation. I give posters and Tweeters the same leeway I give comedians. They shouldn’t get cancelled or a ban/TO for obvious jokes that some don’t find funny. Because once you head down that slippery slope then it’s a matter of what is funny and who is offended (like you point out). We allow jokes for things we are comfortable with but not for things we aren’t. I’d rather ignore, change the channel or just not laugh than cancel. Just my thought.
I'm pretty familiar with the anti-gay rights movement, at least the "National Review style" side of that movement, and I can tell you with certainty that this is not the same argument. It's not even a similar argument.
