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I respectfully disagree - do your job and play well and there is no issue....keep throwing picks to DL and you may get benched...Sanchez has been pushed by a QB older than me the past 2 years (and thats old) - its time for Sanchez to sink or swim...this is the NFL and NY...Sanchez knows its put up or shut up time. I fail to see how this sets back the team for years as fans are saying - I know Jet fans are a woe as me bunch but this just strikes me as a huge over reaction.
Richard Todd, Pat Ryan, Kenny O, Browning, Boomer, O'Donnel, Foley, Vinny, Chad, Old man Favre, Sanchez - look no further to why the Jets havent won a Super Bowl since Joe Willy.....Its a vicious cycle - if Sanchez fails...Tebow or no Tebow its back to the drawing board....I'm used to it by now!
I do agree it's about time to put Sanchez on the spot, I'd rather have seen it done a different way. But, since Tebow is the guy they decided to bring in, that's that. We just have to deal with it now. I will say this much: I think I'd rather see Tebow down inside the 10 than Sanchez, especially how things are for us currently at WR for the time being.
That's exactly the problem.
I'm with TLEF.... Tried to shake it off last night and absorb the positives...THE PROBLEM is this reeks of a Woody Johnson move to generate publicity and it reeks of some sort of grasp at an answer to the Giants Super Bowl....Maybe I was among the few left but, I held out hope that Sanchez could develop as a QB - In order to do that he needs consistent weapons, protection, a run game and 100% commitment - HE HAS NEVER HAD THAT!!!! This was the year he was supposed to get full support and was going to be able to sink or swim with a full offseason program...I never agreed with media or rival fans that talked about a Jets circus or Rex as a blowhard - But, i lost a lot of respect yesterday for Woody, Rex and I'm totally done with Tannenbaum. IMO yesterday put a Definitive Stamp on the Jets being a mockery and a Circus - I can't fight that any longer - It's the truth.MeanWhile the Bills, all of a sudden have made every move that I agree with and would love to see in NY the past 2 years - making it even worse.And instead of giving Sanchez 100% support with Ground and Pound and all resources and energy going towards solidfying The Jets Now, IMO we have a team with a QB controvery before Game 1 and an inevitable Train Wreck which will evetually lead to Rex being Fired, Tanny being fired (if lucky) and wholesale Changes.. We are set back years from BUILDING a real team by grasping at staws yet again.That Tebow run last year was Miraculous - So much #### happened, so many mistakes, so many flukes - AND WE BOUGHT IT!!!! IMO, the real Tebow is the one you saw the Patriots match up against and pound the #### out of. A Distraction. A Headache. The begining of the End.
IMO this is a comittment to ground and pound - Tebow ran the ball down our throat last season in crunch time...you could say he may be the most talented runner on the roster right now....he is not challenging Sanchez this year he is replacing Brad Smith....if Sanchz plays well its a non factor...if he stinks then the #2 should get a shot whther it be Tebow or someone else...its year 4...the Sanchez coddling has to stop. He's a big boy getting paid a lot of money....produce and take the job and Tebow remains the wildcat guy. Stink it up and keep throwing picks to the DL of the other team and he shoukd be benched - no more old man Brunnel
This is how I feel now too. It's not just the Tebow trade; it's the fact that the organization just seems to be chasing its tail. The Jets desperately need a good coverage safety; they've given away two (Rhodes and Lowery) in the last 2 years. I just feel like most of the Jets moves at this point are totally reactive instead of proactive, and that's not the way to build a successful team.
Listening to Joe and Evan right now..
Also.. Tebow ran it down the throat of a Defense that looked like it just played a huge rival game just 4 days earlier and was playing in the Denver altitude - Excuses - sure But, the defense was DONE that night and I totally called what happened late in that game.Tebow's whole season was full of similar miracles.Jets FO is banking on miracles.
I disagree- saying you cant improve the #2 QB spot and give the offense another weapon because it may effect Sanchez is coddling. He's in his 4th year....his RT was awful last year but he still has 2 Pro Bowl OL and a pretty darn good Guard....Greene is a solid albeit unspectaular RB...he has Keller and Holmes....Sanchez has had enough to work with and will have enough to be successful this season. Last season it was clear Sanchez needed to be pushed more - there were games that he was putrid and if the Jets had a better QB than a 50 yr old Brunnell he would have gotten the hook...
Ok.. Now step back and really analyze the OL - the facts are One "Pro Bowl" player was out 3 games and played injured and less than "Pro Bowl" level for IMO at least 6 games.
Meh..
Only so much a QB can do IMO given everything I listed - IMO it wasn't "Pushing" Sanchez that was needed nearly as much as every single thing around him collapsing - At least FIX THOSE ISSUES and see what he can do then - Heck, he was in the Championship game when these things were better!!!!!
It's more than Just a Deal for a Football player - It's a complete lack of focus and a grasping at staws when you were supposed to be simplifying the Offense and filling the holes - This team was supposed to be going to Ground and Pound and keeping it simple - now they have to learn a new offense AND have 2 different packages and rotate QB's in and out..
good to mix it up with fellow Jets fans...I cant stand listening to Francessa and even woe is me Joe B!2 User(s) are reading this topic2 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users Reaper, Kiddnets
Wow - you need to step off the ledge and have a little faith...this regime got the JEts to 2 AFC CGs....they have been to 2 in the past 40 years....their "disaster season" was 8-8 - that should buy a little faith and certainly not comparing this regime to the Kotite disaster and God forbid the Dolphins! I assume you are at least in your late 30s....old enough to actually remember being a true laughingstock year after year and not just for trading for an overhyped QB...call me crazy but I have faith in Tanny/Rex and think Tebow will add a dimension. They will not be rotating QBs every other play or something...it will be like Brad smith....
1) You guys all told me to step off the ledge last year at about week 12 and that ended just as I predicted.
It will be a lot tougher for him to "play well" when he's yanked off the field in the middle of drives - or even worse on the sideline for entire drives.The thing is, just when the team looks like they will commit to giving Sanchez a chance to succeed, they go for the back page story/media circus instead.I'm all for adding playmakers, but how about at WR or RB instead? Right now we're looking at Holmes, Kerely and Schillens at WR. Not good.
Entire drives? Tebow will take over Brad Smith's role which didnt effect Sanchez in the least in his 1st 2 years. I still don't understand how bringing in a better #2 QB doesnt give Sanchez a "chance to succeed" - I agree at needing a WR - I think that will be the 1st rd pick...Floyd?
Because a QB like Eli Manning was allowed to throw 5 Picks in a game on his way to the Super Bowl.... If a Tim Tebow was on that team and GM had the attitude of "well see"'Kiddnets said:
I grew up watching Joe Willie, so I have all of that perspective here. If you honestly don't see how bringing Tebow in to "take over Brad Smith's role" is light years removed from Brad Smith in that role I don't know what to say. Brad operating as a QB was a change of pace gimmick spawned from the Dolphins success with the Wildcat. Brad was also a backup WR and a returner. Tebow- whom I thoroughly enjoyed watching last year- save for one game...'Kiddnets said:
- comes to the Jets wearing a whole different hat from the one worn by Smith. The Broncos moved him because they knew that having him around would be a distraction- even to the likes of Manning. Why didn't they keep him around to fill that change of pace, wildcat role? Because Tebow brings with him a circus not seen before.
You're in the wrong thread.. the Dolphins thread is elsewhere.....Unless of course, Stanton goes to New England and Brady gets knocked out.
Besides putting this all so well, you are saving me an awful lot of typing up in here. 
I liked it better when Mangini was around and Tannenbaum kept his mouth shut.Tanny "If there are say 3 3-and-out's and we roll Tim out there and it works well who knows."
LOL. Not saying it's likely to happen. Just that it's more like a Murphy's Law deal
-QG
Can you imagine being the QB that was received in a trade for Tebow? Denver ain't a bad place for him but that would be a heck of tag to have on you. Kinda like the guy who got traded for Gretzky. Ya know, expect that Gretzky could play.-QG
Ya I guess. For Stanton it wouldn't be good, but I'm more talking would it make sense for Denver and Jets. Say, the Jets trade Stanton and a 7th Rounder to Denver for a 6th rounder (Seems about proper value). Jets get SOMETHING for him which they might not, Denver gets a backup qb they need. Would be the same as Tebow for 4th + Stanton.
No kidding - so is Amare!!
Ditto.
nuff said.But seriously, I sympathize with your hatred for the current organizaton.
