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QB Jameis Winston, NO (10 Viewers)
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lod01
Footballguy
Yeah, that was one of the dumbest posts in the history of dumb post. I could pull someone's grandpa out of a retirement village, plop her down in a wheel chair, hand her a football and she could throw a TD pass in the Joke Bowl.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
No, it's just a continuation of his great season and further confirmation of how poor of a "scout" LOd is.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
I think we need to qualify this.
Was the list of dumbest posts in history that you are speaking of include your posts, or do you have a list of your own since it wouldn't be fair to have yours compared to amateurs.
Capella
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
But he wasn't really good. I won't argue that it was pretty good...for a rookie. But that's it. He wasn't a top 10 QB by any metric and the pro bowl is supposed to have the 6 best...or so I thought. He was the 4th best QB in his division.
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
Short list of QB's I'd want over Jameis going forward.
Capella
Footballguy
Nah he was really good.
Top-6, of course not, but he wasn't picked in the top-6. I'm not sure why you think that is still a thing at this point. It's not the 1988 pro bowl.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
I'm not looking to pick a fight, just curious.
Which QBs were top 10 in the league their rookie year through the history of the NFL? I'm asking because you used this as a measuring stick and I have no idea what the answer is.
CalBear
Footballguy
Subtract:
Newton (Super Bowl)
Rodgers (injury)
Palmer (injury)
Roethlisberger (injury)
Brady (injury)
So that's most of the good QBs in the league. The roster also included Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Eli Manning, and Tyrod Taylor.
They should have included Drew Brees, but he'd probably have begged off anyway. Cousins and Bortles may have deserved it over Winston, and also over some of those other guys. Other than that the QBs were all pretty bad. Stafford?
Hang 10
Footballguy
You just named 4 QB's that were more deserving than Winston. That's all I'm saying.
ETA: Also, how the #### did Bridgewater make the pro bowl as well? That's even more baffling than Winston.
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SWC
Bromigo
old teddy bridewater made it because he is on the vikqueens and the nfl tries to give a little something to minny to make them feel good it is like when you have two kids and one is really good at something and the other one stinks at it you give the bad one maybe an extra cookie or soemthing well there you have it minny got a cookie taket hat to the bank brohans
Hang 10
Footballguy
Not really but who makes the squads is more interesting to me than the actual game. I didn't watch one second of it.
Capella
Footballguy
Somebody found him worthy. He wasn't the 32nd selection. He went ahead of cousins and bortles at least.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
jabarony
Footballguy
So, which one of you guys is really that scumbag, Mitch Albom?
http://detroitsportsrag.net/mitch-albom-tells-alleged-rape-victim-how-to-spend-her-money/
http://detroitsportsrag.net/mitch-albom-tells-alleged-rape-victim-how-to-spend-her-money/
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
You know, as much as I'd like to enjoin, I just can't get spun up about who was or was not selected to the Pro Bowl as an alternative and what meaning that has on a player's value.
I would however sure like to see Hang 10 answer my question about which rookie QBs were top 10 at the position in the league that year.
I would however sure like to see Hang 10 answer my question about which rookie QBs were top 10 at the position in the league that year.
dhockster
Footballguy
He'll never live up to Earl Anthony or Mark Roth.
He'll be averaging 132 by the end of the tour season
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Raping and stealing is a little more serious than selling some autographs though....Awesome. So the same nonsense surrounding Manziel that we had to endure we're going to have to do all over again with Winston.
Thanks a lot, Jameis.
Capella
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
That Rules.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Named rookie of the year by the fans:
Quez
Footballguy
So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.
Hi haters
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/
NFL catering to its fantasy base! Positional scarcity wins the day.So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.
Hi haters
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Quick. Name the player who won the ROY 5 years ago.
It really doesn't matter much. The career is what matters.
It really doesn't matter much. The career is what matters.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
The same guy who won this year's NFL MVP by a nearly unanimous vote and he's going to be the starting QB for Carolina in the Super Bowl later today.
Capella
Footballguy
I pretty much agree. I'm #1 on his bandwagon and I don't really care. Would much rather see some damn wins.
Bombers411
Footballguy
I think the NFL gave Gurley ROY to help hype up the Rams move back to LA. They need something to sell tickets to the LA fans.So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.
Hi haters
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/
cstu
Footballguy
Winston is lucky Mariota missed 4 games or he wouldn't even be in the conversation.So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.
Hi haters
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/
LOL so the NFL just moved a franchise to a market where they think they'll struggle to sell tickets, and need gimmicks like a ROY to generate hype?I think the NFL gave Gurley ROY to help hype up the Rams move back to LA. They need something to sell tickets to the LA fans.So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.
Hi haters
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that wasn't a factor here.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Gotta love the, "if my guy actually played in the games he would have been better" argument.
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