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That Eifert drop was clearly on Winston. Those other 2 TD passes were lucky.

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So in our first season of this thread, our boy brows 2 touchdowns in the fourth quarter of the pro bowl.

If this thread were mortal combat we'd be getting the FINISH HIM signal for lod and Cstu right now.

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We're flexing over the Pro Bowl now?

:lmao: Yeah, that was one of the dumbest posts in the history of dumb post. I could pull someone's grandpa out of a retirement village, plop her down in a wheel chair, hand her a football and she could throw a TD pass in the Joke Bowl.

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I thought his 1st TD pass was in the 3rd quarter?

If my qb ever tweeted a Google search to his experienced gf I think I'd quit watching football forever. The rest of America (I've taken a poll) is laughing at the doo####ude. That's Russell Wilson's bird amirite?

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So in our first season of this thread, our boy brows 2 touchdowns in the fourth quarter of the pro bowl.

If this thread were mortal combat we'd be getting the FINISH HIM signal for lod and Cstu right now.

Now imagine if this had been an actual game.

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We're flexing over the Pro Bowl now?

No, it's just a continuation of his great season and further confirmation of how poor of a "scout" LOd is.

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The pass to Delanie Wlaker was nice. He dropped it in right over the LB & hit him in stride.

The 7yd pass to Deandre Hopkins was a bullet.

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We're flexing over the Pro Bowl now?

:lmao: Yeah, that was one of the dumbest posts in the history of dumb post. I could pull someone's grandpa out of a retirement village, plop her down in a wheel chair, hand her a football and she could throw a TD pass in the Joke Bowl.

I think we need to qualify this.

Was the list of dumbest posts in history that you are speaking of include your posts, or do you have a list of your own since it wouldn't be fair to have yours compared to amateurs.

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Why was he in the pro bowl?

Because he had a really good season?

How many QB's had to turn down playing before they got to Jameis?

I have no clue.

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Why was he in the pro bowl?

Because he had a really good season?

How many QB's had to turn down playing before they got to Jameis?

I have no clue.

But he wasn't really good. I won't argue that it was pretty good...for a rookie. But that's it. He wasn't a top 10 QB by any metric and the pro bowl is supposed to have the 6 best...or so I thought. He was the 4th best QB in his division.

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Short list of QB's I'd want over Jameis going forward.

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Why was he in the pro bowl?

Because he had a really good season?

How many QB's had to turn down playing before they got to Jameis?

I have no clue.

But he wasn't really good. I won't argue that it was pretty good...for a rookie. But that's it. He wasn't a top 10 QB by any metric and the pro bowl is supposed to have the 6 best...or so I thought. He was the 4th best QB in his division.

Nah he was really good.

Top-6, of course not, but he wasn't picked in the top-6. I'm not sure why you think that is still a thing at this point. It's not the 1988 pro bowl.

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Why was he in the pro bowl?

Because he had a really good season?

How many QB's had to turn down playing before they got to Jameis?

I have no clue.

But he wasn't really good. I won't argue that it was pretty good...for a rookie. But that's it. He wasn't a top 10 QB by any metric and the pro bowl is supposed to have the 6 best...or so I thought. He was the 4th best QB in his division.

I'm not looking to pick a fight, just curious.

Which QBs were top 10 in the league their rookie year through the history of the NFL? I'm asking because you used this as a measuring stick and I have no idea what the answer is.

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Passing yards - 11th

YPA - 12th

TD Passes - 16th

INTS - 5th most

Rating - 28th

Completion percentage - 32nd

Again, why was he in the pro bowl?

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Passing yards - 11th

YPA - 12th

TD Passes - 16th

INTS - 5th most

Rating - 28th

Completion percentage - 32nd

Again, why was he in the pro bowl?

Subtract:

Newton (Super Bowl)

Rodgers (injury)

Palmer (injury)

Roethlisberger (injury)

Brady (injury)

So that's most of the good QBs in the league. The roster also included Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Eli Manning, and Tyrod Taylor.

They should have included Drew Brees, but he'd probably have begged off anyway. Cousins and Bortles may have deserved it over Winston, and also over some of those other guys. Other than that the QBs were all pretty bad. Stafford?

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Passing yards - 11th

YPA - 12th

TD Passes - 16th

INTS - 5th most

Rating - 28th

Completion percentage - 32nd

Again, why was he in the pro bowl?

Subtract:

Newton (Super Bowl)

Rodgers (injury)

Palmer (injury)

Roethlisberger (injury)

Brady (injury)

So that's most of the good QBs in the league. The roster also included Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Eli Manning, and Tyrod Taylor.

They should have included Drew Brees, but he'd probably have begged off anyway. Cousins and Bortles may have deserved it over Winston, and also over some of those other guys. Other than that the QBs were all pretty bad. Stafford?

You just named 4 QB's that were more deserving than Winston. That's all I'm saying.

ETA: Also, how the #### did Bridgewater make the pro bowl as well? That's even more baffling than Winston.

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old teddy bridewater made it because he is on the vikqueens and the nfl tries to give a little something to minny to make them feel good it is like when you have two kids and one is really good at something and the other one stinks at it you give the bad one maybe an extra cookie or soemthing well there you have it minny got a cookie taket hat to the bank brohans

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Hang 10 is very passionate about the pro bowl

Not really but who makes the squads is more interesting to me than the actual game. I didn't watch one second of it.

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Hang 10 is very passionate about the pro bowl

Not really but who makes the squads is more interesting to me than the actual game. I didn't watch one second of it.

Somebody found him worthy. He wasn't the 32nd selection. He went ahead of cousins and bortles at least.

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Hang 10 is very passionate about the pro bowl

Not really but who makes the squads is more interesting to me than the actual game. I didn't watch one second of it.

Somebody found him worthy. He wasn't the 32nd selection. He went ahead of cousins and bortles at least.

He shouldn't have.

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Hang 10 is very passionate about the pro bowl

Not really but who makes the squads is more interesting to me than the actual game. I didn't watch one second of it.

Somebody found him worthy. He wasn't the 32nd selection. He went ahead of cousins and bortles at least.

He shouldn't have.

Well he did. :ptts:

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Hang 10 is very passionate about the pro bowl

Not really but who makes the squads is more interesting to me than the actual game. I didn't watch one second of it.

Somebody found him worthy. He wasn't the 32nd selection. He went ahead of cousins and bortles at least.

He shouldn't have.

Well he did. :ptts:

But he shouldn't have.

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You know, as much as I'd like to enjoin, I just can't get spun up about who was or was not selected to the Pro Bowl as an alternative and what meaning that has on a player's value.

I would however sure like to see Hang 10 answer my question about which rookie QBs were top 10 at the position in the league that year.

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Now a pro bowler

Didn't see that career change coming.

He'll never live up to Earl Anthony or Mark Roth.

He'll be averaging 132 by the end of the tour season

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Awesome. So the same nonsense surrounding Manziel that we had to endure we're going to have to do all over again with Winston.

Thanks a lot, Jameis. :hot:

Raping and stealing is a little more serious than selling some autographs though....

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Named rookie of the year by the fans:

"It feels great to receive this honor from the fans," said Winston. "My goal coming into my rookie season was to come in and do whatever it took to help us win games and compete. As great as this individual accomplishment is, it is really a reflection of how well our entire offense did this season. The fans are what make our sport so great and getting this kind of recognition based on their votes is very special to me."

Behind Winston, the Buccaneers finished with the No. 5 offense in the NFL, the team's highest-ever finish. Last season, the team was ranked No. 30.

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So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...

NFL catering to its fantasy base! Positional scarcity wins the day.

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Somebody on Twitter said the 48th best rookie RB season ever beat the 3rd best rookie QB season ever. Neat.

I don't particularly think Gurley only had the 48th-best season but whatever. Point still stands.

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Quick. Name the player who won the ROY 5 years ago.

It really doesn't matter much. The career is what matters.

The same guy who won this year's NFL MVP by a nearly unanimous vote and he's going to be the starting QB for Carolina in the Super Bowl later today.

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Griffin, Newton, Ryan, Vince Young, and Roethlisberger are the QB's who have won it.

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Quick. Name the player who won the ROY 5 years ago.

It really doesn't matter much. The career is what matters.

I pretty much agree. I'm #1 on his bandwagon and I don't really care. Would much rather see some damn wins.

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So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...

I think the NFL gave Gurley ROY to help hype up the Rams move back to LA. They need something to sell tickets to the LA fans.

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So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...

Winston is lucky Mariota missed 4 games or he wouldn't even be in the conversation.

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So he won the PFF ROY determined by the stat crunchers. He won the Pepsi ROY voted on by the fans. Yet, the "official" NFL ROY goes to Todd Gurley...

I think the NFL gave Gurley ROY to help hype up the Rams move back to LA. They need something to sell tickets to the LA fans.

LOL so the NFL just moved a franchise to a market where they think they'll struggle to sell tickets, and need gimmicks like a ROY to generate hype?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that wasn't a factor here.

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