DJackson10
Footballguy
Just want to correct the title its about Frank Sheehan who was the Irishman who got in as a hitman with the mob. He's actually buried in the same cemetery as my Pop-Pop
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The Irishman - New Scorcese movie about Jimmy Hoffa (1 Viewer)
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DJackson10
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I know a few people who were in and around the scene. Joey Merlino's cousin is a family friend of my family. Word gets around on the best ones later especially when people die. Merlinos cousin isn't in La Costra Nostra but definitely will tell you what is BS and what isn't when it comes to the life and people. Sheehan's tale timelines and such are very accurate. I would say he may have sugar coated a few things he did to make it more spicy but I believe he killed those he said he has.
AAABatteries
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Pesci was the best part of this, IMO. I thought he was great. Was definitely was a little too long - the last 20-30 minutes could use some serious editing. I thought the CGI worked although Deniro for some reason looked a little off - Pesci and Pacino looked fine. There's an excellent 2 hour film in there with the right editing. I thought it was really good though - I love mafia movies.
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DJackson10
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Living on The Main Line, having Italian friends, people from the barber shop South Philly etc. I learned a lot about the Philly mob. When I was growing up Joey Merlino was in the news Often. Media made him look awful while a lot of people in town saw him as some anti christ
jamny
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I really enjoyed it and thought the time went by fast. The CGI was really distracting at times though, especially in the beginning. Felt like watching a video game. Lots of scenes filmed in my neighborhood, where DeNiro curb stomped the shop owner, the church, inside and out, etc.
Noticed Herc from the Wire right away from his voice. Was that Gus from Breaking Bad at the dais during the ceremony?
I rarely watch movies more than once. I doubt I'll watch this again but it was worth seeing.
Noticed Herc from the Wire right away from his voice. Was that Gus from Breaking Bad at the dais during the ceremony?
I rarely watch movies more than once. I doubt I'll watch this again but it was worth seeing.
jamny
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Insein
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mr. furley
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wikkidpissah
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Ilov80s
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I know you didn’t really dig it but I enjoyed it and find myself thinking about it a lot. I expect it will be even better the 2nd time around.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
but a person my age appreciates that, since a Scorsese flick almost always goes off the rails toward the end, THIS time it careened into geriatric angst...
Apple Jack
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Gianni Verscotchie
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Dr. Octopus
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Ilov80s
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She was one of the most important characters in the story and her not talking to Deniro was one of the biggest points of the movie.
BroncoFreak_2K3
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Comedian Sebastian Maniscalco played Crazy Joe Gallo
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Insein
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I watched the whole thing but I think it was left at 3.5 hours because it was on Netflix. No way it stays that long if it had a theatrical release.The “it’s too long crowd” should start editing movies, obviously Thelma Schoonmaker doesn’t know what she’s doing.
mr. furley
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anyone else remember going to see movies in the theaters and those ####s had an intermission?
anything over 1:45 had a 10 minute intermission
anything over 1:45 had a 10 minute intermission
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
This movie is bad. I'm a Scorsese fanboy through and through. But it was a huge mistake to ask these old dudes to play guys in their 40s. Watching DeNiro attempt to kick a guy was just awful. Seeing all the praise The Irishman is receiving, I wonder what these same critics thought about Casino. Because Casino is 100 times better in every single way.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Maybe- it did have a theatrical release although limited. Wasn’t the last Avengers 3 hours?
I think any movie over 140 minutes should have an intermission. Insane not to.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree that especially the one scene Deniro beats up the guy at the grocery is laughably bad and could have been so easily fixed too. Not sure how that got by. However, I don’t think Casino is nearly as good.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
This movie would have been much better with age-appropriate actors. I know that opinions are subjective, but I really can't fathom the notion that Irishman is better than Casino.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I get your argument and I can’t say it’s right or wrong because it doesn’t exist. I agree it would have been bette if Al, Bob and Joe were 10 years younger. You need someone who can play 35-85 so it’s a big range they go for here. Casino is much more fun but it just feels like “more Goodfellas.” This took the 4 icons of the last generation of Italian gangster movies and really gave us a look at things from an end of life perspective. I’m not sure younger actors bring to the screen all the weight and memories that Pacino or Deniro do. To me this felt like an incredible swan song and said something new that I’ve never seen a gangster movie say.
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The_Man
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A lot of on-target comments in this thread. I really thought Pesci was extraordinary. Not sure why Keitel took such a nothing role, except I guess he didn't want to be left out.
I also agree that Pacino for once in the last 20 years underplayed a role - Nicholson's Hoffa was so much more electric. This Hoffa never had an air of danger about him.
One thing I liked that I haven't seen mentioned here is how DeNiro's character did his hits. They weren't dramatic, they weren't tortured. It was just a guy with a job in front of him that he did in the most workmanlike way he could. From the two Germans in the grave to Hoffa at the end, it was like a carpenter hammering a nail or a housepainter applying a brush stroke.
I also agree that Pacino for once in the last 20 years underplayed a role - Nicholson's Hoffa was so much more electric. This Hoffa never had an air of danger about him.
One thing I liked that I haven't seen mentioned here is how DeNiro's character did his hits. They weren't dramatic, they weren't tortured. It was just a guy with a job in front of him that he did in the most workmanlike way he could. From the two Germans in the grave to Hoffa at the end, it was like a carpenter hammering a nail or a housepainter applying a brush stroke.
Ilov80s
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Great post. I forgot about Keitel which is both logical because it’s so long but also weird because it’s Keitel. Thinking back, I liked him in his role. He had a calm menace about him. He was able to immediately communicate that he was dangerous, important and in a whisper could make people disappear.
CGRdrJoe
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jdoggydogg
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I hear you. There are sentimental reasons to like The Irishman. Some of the performances are great, so when I say it's bad it's not all bad.
jdoggydogg
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mr. furley
Footballguy
in theaters, i think it's a good idea. gets people up out of their seats and back in to the lobby for more popcorn/soda/snacks, etc.
what with the way everything is going straight to Netflix or whatever of the 1mm other services, people can just use the pause button.
but i do like the long movies and the theater experience so i'd welcome the return of the 3 hour movie w/ intermission.
RUSF18
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Think the more appropriate thing is to have a problem with the character, not the actress. Just IMO.
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ghostguy123
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I think every movie should have a 10 minute intermission regardless of length.
I would appreciate it, and the theater would inevitably make more in drink/snack sales.
No brainer
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Didn’t realize that Jerry Orbach was such a bad ### in real life, hanging out all the time with Crazy Joe Gallo, including the night he was gunned down. He supposedly knew the killer but never cooperated with law enforcement as to the identity of Gallos killer, taking the secret to his grave. The movie seems to suggest Sheeran knew something about the identity of the killer as well. Fascinating stuff.
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coyote5
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Copeman
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Agreed 100%. She's nice to look at, but her acting has always sucked. I love to watch Casino, but cringe every time she is on screen. Could have been casted much better, and the movie would have been even better.
Apple Jack
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