I think it will come down to self-preservation. He’s not a patriot. He’s not going to do it because it’s the right thing. He’s going to do what’s best for him. If he decides to lay his trust in Trump, there’s no telling what will happen. He might lie, not show up or plead the fifth. But if he decides to spill the beans because he doesn’t trust Trump, the floodgates could be opened.
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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (7 Viewers)
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skol asylum
Footballguy
I hope they ask Sondland if Zelensky really does love Trump's ###.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
It really is mind-blowing. What's more likely?
A. Donald J. Trump, as President, is acting like Donald J. Trump did for the first 70 years of his life
or
B. 99% of the Intelligence community, hundreds of career public servants, and all of the media outside of Fox is just out to get this one innocent man that's just trying to serve the public (those last 3 words, again, being a reversal of everything he's done for the first 70 years).
I have an idea. He is going to say “whoops I missed a few details last time but now that these boatloads of testimony are in front of me, I now remember.” He doesn’t want to go to jail.
You mean like the giant poster board that was propped up on an easel in the chambers yesterday, stating that Schiff has known for 99 days? I’d call that proof.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
"Better is a little with righteousness than large income with injustice." - Proverbs 16:8
Just something on which members of the party which supposedly embraces Christian values might want to reflect
MAC_32
Footballguy
Point one may or may not be fact and I dont care to look, but it has no relevance to what happened here.
Point two isn't fact though. So stop pretending you care about facts. You dont. You only care about whatever spin is effective enough, so you can justify to yourself keeping him in office.
Dickies
Footballguy
Jesus isn't a Republican. A lot of Americans are going to be surprised to find that out, if they make it to the Pearly Gates.
MAC_32
Footballguy
You're not wrong, but the if-then game is one they want to play because the facts are clear. 'What if's' are all they have. So don't even give them a branch to wander out onto.
jamny
Footballguy
He did give a straight answer. He said that once he realized that no one from legal was on the phone call, as they usually would be, he alerted them of the call.
jamny
Footballguy
I think it's pretty clear that Vindman was one of the people to bring attention to the call to the WB and that the unnamed IC person he spoke to was the WB.
It is irrelevant though.
Kyle Cheney@kyledcheney · 53m
SOND AND FURY:
Gordon Sondland has the power to upend the impeachment narrative today. He can elaborate on the damning testimony others have attributed to him — or he can try to put the genie back in the bottle.
If he really wants to throw everything in the air, he should come testify, and then plead the 5th....
SOND AND FURY:
Gordon Sondland has the power to upend the impeachment narrative today. He can elaborate on the damning testimony others have attributed to him — or he can try to put the genie back in the bottle.
If he really wants to throw everything in the air, he should come testify, and then plead the 5th....
D_House
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Tim bout to come in here and kill the joke like: “that’s because the award was named after him”
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
The only thing worse for Trump in the court of public opinion than Sondland telling the whole truth is Sondland pleading the Fifth.
I still don’t think either of those two things will happen. My guess is Sondland pretends to have a bad memory.
I still don’t think either of those two things will happen. My guess is Sondland pretends to have a bad memory.
jamny
Footballguy
I doubt it. Unfortunately, those that could shed light on it, like Eisenberg, are conveniently refusing to testify.
Of lying, corruption, coverups and throwing people who work for him under the bus. Yes I believe 4 more years is a good possibility.
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Don't Noonan
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
I’m getting a T-shirt that says “Here right matters.” That really moves me yesterday.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I predict lots of answers peppered with talking points ("Of course we asked them to announce an investigation....but there was no pressure!") Then the Republicans can use Sondland's own words to claim that Trump has been totally exonerated, as if the witness's determination of guilt or innocence ("He didn't use the word 'bribery'!") is all that matters.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
That's a huge 33% increase from last week. I think q4 will end up just over 1%, but there's a possibility it could be negative. In any event, it's unprecedented to cut taxes, have low interest rates and an increasing budget deficit in such a great economy. These are the 3 amigos that should worry the GOP. A sinking economy could make this impeachment inquiry irrelevant for 2020.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
I predict that all of the folks in here having their hopes up for some bombshell testimony by Sondlund are going to be severely disappointed. At the end of the day, Tim will post in here like in the Russia thread that this hoax is over with and it is just best for the Dems to accept defeat and to move on and try and focus on the 2020 election.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
at your new avatar, you shameless hussy.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
That makes sense. The muddy the waters defense.
He’s going to try to not only protect himself but also protect Trump.
Chickenwang
Footballguy
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timschochet
Footballguy
Wow. Sondland’s opening statement released: he’s going to tell all- says Trump told him to do it.
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Sondland says yes there was a quid pro quo. And Trump ordered me to do it.
timschochet
Footballguy
And Mike Pompeo knew about it as well. And he’s got emails to prove it.
Well Don’t Noonan you’re right. It wasn’t just one bombshell. It’s about a dozen. JFC
Well Don’t Noonan you’re right. It wasn’t just one bombshell. It’s about a dozen. JFC
skol asylum
Footballguy
Yep. Sounds like Sondlond is putting all the cards on the table.
Ooh. He also is saying Pence knew.
Take the VP down too?
President Pelosi come on down.
Ooh. He also is saying Pence knew.
Take the VP down too?
President Pelosi come on down.
timschochet
Footballguy
beef
Footballguy
Yes. Dems leaked the opening statement.
*not really a leak. every media outlet was given a written copy.
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SWC
Bromigo
if that is what he says then i sort of feel like the roger stone lie to congress go to jail ruling may be weighing in a little bit take that to the bank brohans
timschochet
Footballguy
I guess they will try to assassinate Sondland’s character. Not sure how though. He’s not a Trump hater. He gave the guy a million dollars.
This is John Dean only worse. How huge was that Roger Stone conviction? I think it must have scared the hell out of him.
This is John Dean only worse. How huge was that Roger Stone conviction? I think it must have scared the hell out of him.
timschochet
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
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