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2013 Free Agency news thread (1 Viewer)
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voiceofunreason
Footballguy
I agree with most of what you've said. Total overpays on the lbs. Reminds me of when guys like Larry Brown would get huge deals because of the exposure of the super bowl. However, Flacco as a bargain for 20 million may be a bit over the top to say the least
That deal could be a real nightmare in 2 years.
The_Man
Footballguy
Ravens give Chris Canty $8M over 3 years, with $2.8M guarantee.
Bargain shopping. Word is they might be closing in on a cut-rate deal with James Harrison too.
I hope all this is setting up a decent deal for a WR and/or Left Tackle. Still think they address ILB through a first round pick and then the cheap veteran route.
Bargain shopping. Word is they might be closing in on a cut-rate deal with James Harrison too.
I hope all this is setting up a decent deal for a WR and/or Left Tackle. Still think they address ILB through a first round pick and then the cheap veteran route.
:knifetoheart:
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Jason La Canfora@JasonLaCanforaIf Canty can stay healthy, a big if in this case, Ravems DL just got considerably more fortified
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Interesting that none of the RB's have a home yet. Guessing Bush and Mendenhall may be the lead dominoes that kick off a cascade of signings.
Have heard Broncos, Cards, Dolphins, Bengals and Falcons as possible for Mendenhall.
Mostly Lions and Cards for Bush.
Have heard Broncos, Cards, Dolphins, Bengals and Falcons as possible for Mendenhall.
Mostly Lions and Cards for Bush.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Nobody wants to pay a rb. I'm sure lots of teams would love them for 2 years and 4 million.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Very little movement in the DB market, which makes total sense given how saturated it is with FA talent and upcoming talent in the draft. No one wants to make the first move and find out later they grossly overpaid as the market settles down on similar players later on.
GregR
Footballguy
NFLN just had Scott Pioloi going over the "Patriots Draft Philosopy". And someone left another microphone on and you can hear someone (Warren Sapp probably) say something like "God. No no no, it's the same ####### spew as we had Mike Lombardi do. The ####### Bill Belichick ####### angle."
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Slightly worse...(?)We'll see if Denver brings in a guy that the whined himself out of Pittsburgh. Teams like Arizona usually do that.Read a couple places that Mendy will be visiting Denver and Arizona.If Moreno can be a ppg machine in Denver, imagine what Mendenhall could do.
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Dont have to imagine. He will spin then fall on the ground.imagine what Mendenhall could do.
Phenix
Footballguy
I suspect Bush doesn't leave Detroit. This is the guy they want, they have not really signed anyone else as this is the guy they are gonna pay to get.I love the deal, it is the Best replacement they need. Keep in mind Lions were explosive when they had a player like Best.Bush is much better in my opinion, fantasy implications are huge for him if he signs in Detroit.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
The truth is though, Mendenhall played his best in a spread package and used as a "small back".Pittsburgh tried to use him as a "big back" and he just doesnt have that in him most of the time.You could also see his talent (and willingness to be a force) when they get close to the goalline.He becomes far more aggressive and willing when the glory of a TD is to be had.Maybe with Manning in Denver his utilization and a fresh start effect a mental change for Rashard for the better.Dont have to imagine. He will spin then fall on the ground.imagine what Mendenhall could do.
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
@RAIDERS: The Raiders have released WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, DB Michael Huff and DE David Tollefson; and re-signed DB Phillip Adams.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Wasnt Huff playing pretty well recently?I know he struggled the fist couple years badly.
cstu
Footballguy
Good. He'll either be in a better situation or buried somewhere so I can dump him.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Yup. Lots of guys who can still play got cut in cap-saving moves and the draft is loaded with DBs.I think the Jets are in a bind with Revis wanting more loot right now after his injury. He is worth top corner money but the market is working against him. It is going to be impossible for New York to trade him without him agreeing to a contract with the new team so that one could drag on awhile.I think teams in need of DBs are going to find enough to pick over and find bargains so they'll take time filling that position.It is interesting seeing what happens with Revis, how long that will take before it gets resolved. I don't see him going back to the Jets since scuttlebutt is the owner doesn't want him re-signed.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
@caplannfl: #Eagles have agreed to terms with H-Back James Casey, per source.
GregR
Footballguy
3 years, $14.5m per John McClain
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Is it me or is that crazy?
Nucker101
Footballguy
Saw a Tweet earlier that apparently up to 14 teams were interested and Kelly and the Eagles had him as a top target.
Nucker101
Footballguy
Solid fatty for the 3-4 NT. Bradley Fletcher to the Eagles as well.
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GregR
Footballguy
A note for people who might be wondering what possibility of compensatory picks their team might get for losing a free agent.
First, only free agents whose contract expired count. Not players the team cut. Players lost and gained are slotted into rounds based mostly on average salary of their contract, which can be adjusted by playing time and honors (Pro Bowl, etc). Each player signed cancels out a player lost. A player signed removes the pick for a lost player of the same or a worse round first, and only removes a lost player's better round if none are left below. Minimum salary veterans do not count. A max of 4 picks can be gained. If not enough picks are given out in this way, some extra picks are given out via mechanism we don't understand (it's not just same as draft order).
As far as some actual numbers, in 2009:
3rd round comp players had signed for at least $6.5 million per season
4th rounders signed for $4.8 million to $6 million
5th rounders signed for $4 million to $5 million
6th rounders signed for $2.7 million to $3.9 million
7th rounders signed for less than $2.65 million per season.
Those figures seem to change with the cap. The cap in 2009 was $123m, and this year is also $123m. So those should be decent numbers to work from. Buffalo losing Levitre (5 years, $39m or $7.8m per year) would net them a pick at the end of the 3rd round, assuming they don't sign as many qualifying players as they lost, or don't sign one who they give an average salary of $6.5m per year. And of course, playing time and honors can shift things a little bit too.
Also, not every contract detail counts towards the average salary, and sometimes the media numbers are just plain wrong, so don't assume those numbers are set in stone for any single specific player you heard a contract for. But a decent guideline towards what a team's compensatory picks may be next year.
First, only free agents whose contract expired count. Not players the team cut. Players lost and gained are slotted into rounds based mostly on average salary of their contract, which can be adjusted by playing time and honors (Pro Bowl, etc). Each player signed cancels out a player lost. A player signed removes the pick for a lost player of the same or a worse round first, and only removes a lost player's better round if none are left below. Minimum salary veterans do not count. A max of 4 picks can be gained. If not enough picks are given out in this way, some extra picks are given out via mechanism we don't understand (it's not just same as draft order).
As far as some actual numbers, in 2009:
3rd round comp players had signed for at least $6.5 million per season
4th rounders signed for $4.8 million to $6 million
5th rounders signed for $4 million to $5 million
6th rounders signed for $2.7 million to $3.9 million
7th rounders signed for less than $2.65 million per season.
Those figures seem to change with the cap. The cap in 2009 was $123m, and this year is also $123m. So those should be decent numbers to work from. Buffalo losing Levitre (5 years, $39m or $7.8m per year) would net them a pick at the end of the 3rd round, assuming they don't sign as many qualifying players as they lost, or don't sign one who they give an average salary of $6.5m per year. And of course, playing time and honors can shift things a little bit too.
Also, not every contract detail counts towards the average salary, and sometimes the media numbers are just plain wrong, so don't assume those numbers are set in stone for any single specific player you heard a contract for. But a decent guideline towards what a team's compensatory picks may be next year.
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Fasano got 16 mil for 4 years, you tell me
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
@Eagles: #Eagles agree to terms with 4 more players: CB Fletcher Bradley, S Patrick Chung, LB Jason Phillips and DL Isaac Sopoaga #FreeAgency
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
I can't wait to see what Chip Kelly has in mind with Casey.
GregR
Footballguy
They will definitely need to use him more than Houston did for Casey to be worth the money.
GECKO
Footballguy
It was Sapp, wonder what his opinion is of Belichick
NFLN just had Scott Pioloi going over the "Patriots Draft Philosopy". And someone left another microphone on and you can hear someone (Warren Sapp probably) say something like "God. No no no, it's the same ####### spew as we had Mike Lombardi do. The ####### Bill Belichick ####### angle."
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
I can't get enough of his advice on how teams should handle their qbs. Maybe they could bring Millen back to talk about drafting wrs.Scott Pioli refusing to give into pressure and prolcaim "winners and losers" after FOUR WHOLE HOURS hours of Free Agency.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Casey wasn't used much in the passing game in Houston but looked good when they did. He has school records at Rice:
most receptions in a season- 111
most rec. yards in a season- 1329
most rec. yards in a game - 208
Only played 2 years there and started 25 games. He was a pro baseball player for 4 years before that.
most receptions in a season- 111
most rec. yards in a season- 1329
most rec. yards in a game - 208
Only played 2 years there and started 25 games. He was a pro baseball player for 4 years before that.
strykerpks
Footballguy
Andrew Brandt @adbrandt Sense some interesting discussions going on between the Packers and Eugene Parker, agent for both @sj39 and @GregJennings.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Have heard reports from they are just kicking tires and Jackson is using them as leverage....to he is close to signing.As I stated in the Packers thread...Wilde reported he has a source saying they offered Jennings a contract "a while ago" worth $10mil per.
Seems they have kept the discussions with him open and saying they still want him back.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
@RapSheet: #Raiders DT Desmond Bryant is going to sign with Cleveland. Best DT on the market.
Nucker101
Footballguy
Makes sense. I was thinking that he could get multiple years with decent money for sure.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Got a NICE check too! 5 years 34 million 15 guaranteed.
ICON211
Footballguy
He can be a really good player. He is the FA I wanted back most of the Raiders FAa, but at this point I guess it does not matter the whole team has been blown up. Raiders will be historically bad next year.
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