2014 ACC Basketball [Closed - use 2015 thread instead] (1 Viewer)

[Worm]

Stupid, stupid foul by Plumlee.

Pulled a Howell imo.

 

[sporthenry]

Sulaimon is the most gifted shooter duke has had since redick. Great form and he gets plenty of lift. Just needs to get his footwork and off the ball movement down. He's going to be a killer. Unfortunately he's just too small to guard poythress.

Dawkins? I might even put Curry ahead of him. And Matt Jones will be better. I really like Sheed but it is his complete game.

 

[Worm]

Get off the floor Kelly... sheesh.

 

[TLEF316]

Nope. Give me sulaimon. Dawkins had deeper range but I'm betting that sulaimon will be much more consistent over his career.

Curry might be as good in an empty gym but sulaimon's extra size and the lift he gets will make him much tougher to stop

 

[jeter23]

Seriously? Even this UK fan knows that was not intentional.

 

[NutterButter]

Nope. Give me sulaimon. Dawkins had deeper range but I'm betting that sulaimon will be much more consistent over his career. Curry might be as good in an empty gym but sulaimon's extra size and the lift he gets will make him much tougher to stop

Dawkins was insane when he got hot, but that wasn't often enough. Curry is much more consistent, but just a mediocre athlete. If Sulaimon can shoot anywhere near those guys with his athleticism, I'd be thrilled.

 

[sporthenry]

Nope. Give me sulaimon. Dawkins had deeper range but I'm betting that sulaimon will be much more consistent over his career. Curry might be as good in an empty gym but sulaimon's extra size and the lift he gets will make him much tougher to stop

Sheed is a better player and could be a 1 and done. But you said pure shooting wise so I disagreed for the sake of argument. Besides, anyone who is 1-9 can't be Duke's best shooter since JJ

 

[TLEF316]

Seriously? Even this UK fan knows that was not intentional.

Yup. Great job by Alex p to keep his cool. Great talent. Wish duke had landed him.

 

[tdoss]

Man...JJ could shoot lights freakin out. Never seen anything like that guy just running circle after circle through screen after screen until he got open and just a sliver of daylight and he'd cut your heart out.

 

[tdoss]

I'm really surprised at how physical this Duke teams is...

 

[sporthenry]

Man...JJ could shoot lights freakin out. Never seen anything like that guy just running circle after circle through screen after screen until he got open and just a sliver of daylight and he'd cut your heart out.

Senior year, he was like Peyton manning running the baseline and with him developing a shot off the dribble. Truly a sight to see.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I still hate Duke, but they are the better team tonight. :tipscap:

 

[tdoss]

There's a LOT of bumping and banging going on out there...

 

[TLEF316]

Hard to believe UK is this bad on the glass.

Josh hairston pulling down offensive boards?

 

[NutterButter]

Man...JJ could shoot lights freakin out. Never seen anything like that guy just running circle after circle through screen after screen until he got open and just a sliver of daylight and he'd cut your heart out.

Yup, that guy had a bottomless gas tank.

 

[tdoss]

Hard to believe UK is this bad on the glass. Josh hairston pulling down offensive boards?

Just not jelled yet...unibrow hid a lot of blemishes and will go down as one of the most amazing game altering players in college ever...even with his short resume.This team with live and die with the development of Noel, I believe.

 

[tdoss]

Man...JJ could shoot lights freakin out. Never seen anything like that guy just running circle after circle through screen after screen until he got open and just a sliver of daylight and he'd cut your heart out.

Yup, that guy had a bottomless gas tank.

I can't imagine what it must've been like to have to matchup with him.

 

[TLEF316]

Too early to come back with Mason. Very dangerous.

 

[TLEF316]

Sheed. Enough said.

The lift is the difference. He's a first team aa if he's around 2 years from now

 

[NutterButter]

Suilamon has arrived.

How mediocre is Marshall Plumlee that he can't even get on the floor with the foul trouble they have?

 

[tdoss]

Sheed really does have a great lift and stroke rhythm.

 

[TLEF316]

Suilamon has arrived.How mediocre is Marshall Plumlee that he can't even get on the floor with the foul trouble they have?

JHe has a broken foot. Might be back in the next weekJefferson should be in though

 

[sporthenry]

Hard to believe UK is this bad on the glass. Josh hairston pulling down offensive boards?

B/c they all want the block and don't rotate.

 

[NutterButter]

Suilamon has arrived.How mediocre is Marshall Plumlee that he can't even get on the floor with the foul trouble they have?

He has a broken foot. Might be back in the next week

Ah. I was afraid he was another high Duke recruit that didn't amount to much.

 

[tdoss]

FANTASTIC...smart play by Plumlee to hold on and wait to go up.

 

[TLEF316]

Great play by Mason not to foul

 

[tdoss]

Nice little give and go with Curry and Plumlee

 

[tdoss]

Kelly shooting from half court

 

[TLEF316]

Poythress is better than Terrance Jones was but UK's talent level and defensive potential is down at every other position.

They could still win this if Mason fouls out soon. Duke has made some tough shots that might not fall down the stretch

 

[tdoss]

Duke ran the score up with Mason on the bench.

 

[oso diablo]

Sulaimon looks like he's going to be the perimeter athlete Duke typically lacks if he can just get his shot to fall.

Nolan Smith, Gerald Henderson, Chris Duhon, Jason Williams, Maggette, William Avery, Thomas Hill. Is that enough?

 

[NutterButter]

Poythress is better than Terrance Jones was but UK's talent level and defensive potential is down at every other position.

They could still win this if Mason fouls out soon. Duke has made some tough shots that might not fall down the stretch

I wouldn't go there just yet. Poythress is simply taking advantage of a physical mismatch. Has he even taken a jumpshot?

 

[oso diablo]

Sulaimon is the most gifted shooter duke has had since redick. Great form and he gets plenty of lift. Just needs to get his footwork and off the ball movement down. He's going to be a killer.

Unfortunately he's just too small to guard poythress.

is his stroke better than Andre Dawkins?

 

[tdoss]

Sulaimon looks like he's going to be the perimeter athlete Duke typically lacks if he can just get his shot to fall.

Nolan Smith, Gerald Henderson, Chris Duhon, Jason Williams, Maggette, William Avery, Thomas Hill. Is that enough?

Yea...I wasn't sure what that meant. If you said Duke typically misses a true point guard or physical center...then, I'd agree...

 

[tdoss]

Poythress really is something off the glass

 

[tdoss]

I have to say...not impressed at all by Nerlens

 

[NutterButter]

Sulaimon looks like he's going to be the perimeter athlete Duke typically lacks if he can just get his shot to fall.

Nolan Smith, Gerald Henderson, Chris Duhon, Jason Williams, Maggette, William Avery, Thomas Hill. Is that enough?

C'mon, how far back are you going to go. If you look at Duke's typically 1-3, they're not very athletic. Smart players that are good shooters yes, but athletic no. When I say athlete, I pretty much mean a guy that could take you to the hole. Nolan wasn't much of that type of a player; more a stop and pullup. Even Henderson with all his leaping ability was more a mid-range shooter than a driver. The only guy they've had in ages that could drive on you consistently was Irving and sadly we didn't see much of him.Elliot Williams was a guy I was excited about a few years back, but unfortunately he left.

 

[tdoss]

Amazing defense to lay off him and let him travel as he was looking for contact to play off of and hunting for a whistle

 

[jeter23]

I have to say...not impressed at all by Nerlens

Very small sample size, but I agree. Quiet first couple of games.

 

[tdoss]

Sulaimon looks like he's going to be the perimeter athlete Duke typically lacks if he can just get his shot to fall.

Nolan Smith, Gerald Henderson, Chris Duhon, Jason Williams, Maggette, William Avery, Thomas Hill. Is that enough?

C'mon, how far back are you going to go. If you look at Duke's typically 1-3, they're not very athletic. Smart players that are good shooters yes, but athletic no. When I say athlete, I pretty much mean a guy that could take you to the hole. Nolan wasn't much of that type of a player; more a stop and pullup. Even Henderson with all his leaping ability was more a mid-range shooter than a driver. The only guy they've had in ages that could drive on you consistently was Irving and sadly we didn't see much of him.

I could see what you mean there...

 

[tdoss]

I have to say...not impressed at all by Nerlens

Very small sample size, but I agree. Quiet first couple of games.

Conversely...I'm amazed at Poythress

 

[oso diablo]

i went off the top of my head back to the time i was there. even with the moved goalposts, i still think you're wrong.

 

[jeter23]

I have to say...not impressed at all by Nerlens

Very small sample size, but I agree. Quiet first couple of games.

Conversely...I'm amazed at Poythress

Did you watch the Maryland game? He was invisible.

 

[tdoss]

Man...UK could've easily been 0-2 already this season.

 

[jeter23]

Good game Dukies, glad to discuss the game w/o the normal craziness of this thread.

 

[tdoss]

I have to say...not impressed at all by Nerlens

Very small sample size, but I agree. Quiet first couple of games.

Conversely...I'm amazed at Poythress

Did you watch the Maryland game? He was invisible.

Caught only highlights as I was on the road...interesting. I'd think he'd be difficult to keep off the glass.

 

[NutterButter]

I have to say...not impressed at all by Nerlens

I'm really liking him. Not very skilled, but quite the athlete with a tremendous motor.

 

[NutterButter]

I have to say...not impressed at all by Nerlens

Very small sample size, but I agree. Quiet first couple of games.

Conversely...I'm amazed at Poythress

Did you watch the Maryland game? He was invisible.

I didn't watch the game, but I could see that. He should just dominate that matchup with Sheed and although he had some highlight reel plays, not nearly enough offense. I'm not sure I saw him take a jumpshot. I'm really liking Goodwin. Good shooter with some hops.

 

[sporthenry]

Duke with a very solid early season victory. Not pretty at all times but showed some glimpses of what could be.

 

[oso diablo]

i was as surprised by this Tuesday night's result as i was by last Tuesday night's result. maybe it was just the contrast to a raw UK team, but Duke looked in mid-season form.