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2014 Oakland Raiders Regular Season Thread (2 Viewers)

My ideal 1st two picks would be combo of last 2 posts. I really wanted Schaub back when Houston traded for him & I don't think he just 'lost it' all of a sudden. I love the experience he brings compared to a Matt Flynn & can help our WRs improve. There's weapons on O, but like Bruno2 reminded us we were embarrassed by Foles & Manning. After letting Houston go we need Mack or Donald.

Now 2nd pick I agree with Stomping Tom that we need to get a young, college proven QB. I'll admit I liked the idea of Tyler Wilson last year, but still that was just a flyer. This QB class is much stronger yet still no one seemingly jumping out. I say bring in a kid like Carr, Mettenberger, Murray that have proven themselves in college but could use a year learning under a vet.

 
Either way, I want the Raiders to pick a TOP prospect at ANY position (we have needs everywhere) at 5.

Whether it be Clowney, Robinson/Matthews, Mack, Watkins, take one of them with the first pick. PLEASE don't reach. I don't care if it's "group think". Take the best player and don't take a "prospect with high upside" with our 5th overall pick. No one that almost died in practice at any point in their life.

Then, yes, in the 2nd take the best available QB.

 
I am sure, like me, you are super excited about the prospect of Tom Savage:

http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Raiders-might-have-Pitt-QB-in-their-sights-for-5458313.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile

When the Raiders traded for Matt Schaub in March, general manager Reggie McKenzie and head coachDennis Allen were both on the road scouting, so offensive coordinator Greg Olson handled the introductions to the media.

Olson said "it was critical" to add a proven quarterback after last season's 4-12 record, and called it the team's No. 1 offseason priority. He hit the point home a few more times for good measure.

"You can't count on a quarterback possibly falling to you in the draft, so you'd better have a plan," Olson said.

Schaub is 32 and coming off his worst season; if not, he'd still be with the Houston Texans. What is Plan B?

Second-year quarterback Matt McGloin is the backup, but the coaches aren't sure if he is a future starter. Which brings us to this week's draft. Oakland is not expected to draft a quarterback with the No. 5 pick on Thursday night but could address the need in the second or third round Friday.

And though there are many big-name quarterbacks who might fit the bill, there is a big-armed quarterback whom the Raiders might grab in the third round. Meet Pittsburgh'sTom Savage, who went more than 1,000 days between starts at Rutgers and Pittsburgh.

The Raiders have been in on Savage since the beginning of the scouting process, before the recent hype which has the 6-foot-5, 230-pounder going even as high as the second round.

"Savage is really intriguing because he throws the ball as well as anybody in this draft," NFL Network draft expert Mike Mayock said. "Savage has been to three different colleges. You'd like him to have better feet. He takes too many sacks. From an arm-talent perspective, it doesn't get much better than Tom Savage."

Savage does need to speed up his decision-making in the pocket, and is still dealing with some rust and lack of experience because of his college travels. But the Raiders, according to sources, like not only his arm but also his intelligence and toughness.

He could be a perfect candidate to sit behind Schaub and McGloin and watch for a season or two.

"He's going to need to learn to get the ball out of his hands more efficiently," Mayock said.

In his one season of eligibility at Pitt, Savage was elected a captain and completed 61 percent of his passes for 2,958 yards and 21 touchdowns with nine interceptions.

His offensive line wasn't very good, but Savage also gets some of the blame for being sacked 43 times - the most in the nation. As Savage told ESPN, this past season was the first time he "really understood what was going on" under center.

Savage started his college career with a bang, winning freshman All-American honors at Rutgers. A hand injury and his attitude cost him his starting job, and he eventually transferred to Arizona. That didn't work well, so Savage left another program and decided to walk on at Pitt.

Savage met with or worked out for 26 NFL teams. They wanted to hear what really happened.

"A lot of the teams really commended me just on being honest about this thing," Savage told ESPN. "I think a lot of times in college, kids want to place the blame on coaches, and I think that they're easy scapegoats - 'Oh, I guess the coach didn't like me.'

"The reality was that it was on me and I was to (blame) at Rutgers, and I had the job taken from me. I just learned a lot from the whole process, and coaches want to hear the honest truth. They don't want to hear the blame game, they don't want to hear any excuses. That's the way the game is, and it's a performance-based game and you've got to go out there and perform every game or you're going to lose your job."

Top quarterbacksThe Raiders didn't necessarily fall in love with any of the top three quarterbacks in this year's draft, and the acquisition of Matt Schaub allows them to pick one to develop after the first round. Here is our top 10:

Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville: His stock fell after a poor pro day, but he's still the most ready to play on Day 1. First round.

Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M: Johnny Football is the most exciting, but will his style and size translate to the next level? First round.

Blake Bortles, Central Florida: Looks the part at 6-foot-5, but doesn't have great arm. Footwork issues. First round.

Derek Carr, Fresno State: His brother was a bust, but Derek has a better arm. Looked bad in bowl game against USC. First round.

Zach Mettenberger, LSU: Pocket quarterback with a good arm and some off-field issues, and has injured knee. Second round.

Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois: Intriguing project doesn't have a feel for pocket pressure. Second round.

A.J. McCarron, Alabama: National-title rings, but his throws have a tendency to sail. Poor man's Mettenberger. Third round.

Tom Savage, Pittsburgh: Big, big arm erases enough concerns that otherwise would drop him to lower rounds. Third round.

Aaron Murray, Georgia: Drew Brees is one of a kind. But in case you don't agree, here is 6-foot pocket passer with an average arm. Fourth round.

Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech: Many think you can't teach accuracy. Many won't be picking this impressive athlete. Fifth round.
 
As long as the Raiders do not take a QB or WR with the number 5 pick, I will be happy. I have nothing against Watkins or Evans but this draft is crazy deep with WR. You can address a big need in round one and still grab a starting WR in round 2.

I do not like any of the QBs as a top 5 pick. Take a QB if one on our board falls to us in round 3.

 
Great article, thanks, mass. Really intrigued by this guy's strength, tools, and character. Looks like a solid developmental prospect with upside, but I just think it's not what the Raiders need at this point in time. Savage would be good if we got him in the 5/6, and had a known quantity under center.

Hoping Schaub could be that guy who comes back to form and is also able to help groom guys like McGloin and potentially Savage, but at this point, it's a hope -- arguable as likely that Houston knew what they were doing in releasing Schaub, and we're going to need a viable plan sooner.

It's why I am hoping we are looking hard at guys like Bortles, Bridgewater, and Manziel, as they have more of the potential to be that franchise QB we need.

Would be happy if we nabbed Mack or Watkins in our slot, but my guess is Mack is gone. Hard to pass up Watkins at 5 if he's still there, but weighing him against Manziel or Bortles, I lean towards securing a potential star in QB than a potential star at wideout. Draft is fairly deep at WR this year so we can take a stab in R2 if we still feel that's a need vs BPA.

Brady, Eli, and Russell Wilson all won Lombardi trophies without Pro Bowl WRs. IMHO, it's just more important from a building perspective to secure a QB you can lean on consistently going forward.

 
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I really hate to say this, but this entire draft process is much less stressful with a designated general manager 100% running the show.

 
As long as the Raiders do not take a QB or WR with the number 5 pick, I will be happy. I have nothing against Watkins or Evans but this draft is crazy deep with WR. You can address a big need in round one and still grab a starting WR in round 2.

I do not like any of the QBs as a top 5 pick. Take a QB if one on our board falls to us in round 3.
Watkins is a game changing talent

 
If Mack is there, have to take him. Between Manziel and Watkins? Hm. Everything in me knows we desperately need the next QB, but realist in me says take Watkins as the BPA and also filling a need.

 
Great move. Thrilled we did the right thing, despite my regret that we still need the QB of the future. It's not an insubstantial position to have.

We could use Chuckie Gruden back, too.

 
They got a kid who worked his behind off to get to this level. In my opinion coming from Buffalo he genuinely appreciates the opportunity he has to play for the Raiders. I'm fired up!

 

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