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2014 Oakland Raiders Regular Season Thread (2 Viewers)

Texan D should be a decent start, but if it's a gameplan like week one I doubt they would put up a big number. They will probably hold Raiders to a low point total, but I don't see a ton of sacks or chances for big plays. Not saying this is as a snarky way to trash the gameplan of week 1, just a genuine observation.

 
silentmark said:
Raiders have been 0-13 on the east coast for the last three years I believe, plus starting rookie Carr does not bode well for them.

Yes the secondary of the JETS is terrible going into this first game, but their D-line is pretty good so I expect Carr to be flushed out of the pocket on a regular basis, which is not what he is good at (yet?).

The only positive I have seen has been Carr and D.Moore on the deep ball, so there is a chance we can beat their secondary, if Carr has the time to throw.

Our D is piece meal at best and I expect the JETS to run alot to get their ground game going. If we can stuff the run, get pressure and containment on Geno, we got a shot.

The pessimist in me says the final to be NYJ 20 - OAK 13 ...
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Great call! :thumbup: You set odds in Vegas in your spare time?

 
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ICON211 said:
Texan D should be a decent start, but if it's a gameplan like week one I doubt they would put up a big number. They will probably hold Raiders to a low point total, but I don't see a ton of sacks or chances for big plays. Not saying this is as a snarky way to trash the gameplan of week 1, just a genuine observation.
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They had a game plan vs. the Jets?

Who knew?

 
From what I saw in only two practices:

  1. Carr looks legit. Confident and a strong arm. I hoped he could sit for a little while to calm his excitement. He has happy feet and takes too long to make a decision. Typical rookie QB stuff. But can fling the rock and get out of trouble.
  2. MJD looks ok, run DMC looks awesome. I seriously thin the team was saving DMC from injury while trying out MJD. I told all my friends this. I'm starting DMC at flex this week, with semi confidence.
  3. L. Murray will be sick. Maybe this week, but probably not until another few weeks. If the Raiders let DMC attack between the tackles, he will hold the job easily until the inevitable injury. If DMC doesn't get injured, he will finally pay off. Especially for all the owners that got him cheap this year.
  4. Streater is the WR to have for the Raiders. I took him late in a few drafts. Each time when D. Moore and J. Jones where both there. I got laughed at in all the drafts I did this. I don't care, I know Streater is the WR to have for FF from the Raiders.
  5. The DB's pretty much suck, and our DL does too. We all can see it. We need to bring some more 5 and 6 man rushes.
  6. Probably another 4-6 win season, unless Carr gets comfortable quick and the D backfield can hold their own.
 
Chaka said:
Carr may look legit in practice but he looked overwhelmed last Sunday.

4.7 yards per attempt.
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Part of that was they did not let him do anything. They did not test the poor Jet corners till there was 2 minutes left in the game. I understand its a rookie QB, but if you are scared to let him actually do anything then I'm not sure how he gives you the best chance to win. Not sure if it was Allen or McKenzie who chose Knapp and Olsen, but both were unbelievably uninspiring choices.

 
ICON211 said:
Chaka said:
Carr may look legit in practice but he looked overwhelmed last Sunday.

4.7 yards per attempt.
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Part of that was they did not let him do anything. They did not test the poor Jet corners till there was 2 minutes left in the game. I understand its a rookie QB, but if you are scared to let him actually do anything then I'm not sure how he gives you the best chance to win. Not sure if it was Allen or McKenzie who chose Knapp and Olsen, but both were unbelievably uninspiring choices.
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No offense but how do know that? Isn't it possible that there were plenty of pass plays called with deeper options and Carr simply went the Captain Checkdown route?

 
Chaka said:
ICON211 said:
Chaka said:
Carr may look legit in practice but he looked overwhelmed last Sunday.

4.7 yards per attempt.
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Part of that was they did not let him do anything. They did not test the poor Jet corners till there was 2 minutes left in the game. I understand its a rookie QB, but if you are scared to let him actually do anything then I'm not sure how he gives you the best chance to win. Not sure if it was Allen or McKenzie who chose Knapp and Olsen, but both were unbelievably uninspiring choices.
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No offense but how do know that? Isn't it possible that there were plenty of pass plays called with deeper options and Carr simply went the Captain Checkdown route?
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It's possible, but watching the game that's what it looked like to me. Almost all of the passes to the WRs were quick and within five yards of the line of scrimmage.

 
Another thing, all I hear about is how Reece is a matchup nightmare and game after game year after year he is criminally underutilized.

 
ICON211 said:
Chaka said:
ICON211 said:
Chaka said:
Carr may look legit in practice but he looked overwhelmed last Sunday.

4.7 yards per attempt.
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Part of that was they did not let him do anything. They did not test the poor Jet corners till there was 2 minutes left in the game. I understand its a rookie QB, but if you are scared to let him actually do anything then I'm not sure how he gives you the best chance to win. Not sure if it was Allen or McKenzie who chose Knapp and Olsen, but both were unbelievably uninspiring choices.
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No offense but how do know that? Isn't it possible that there were plenty of pass plays called with deeper options and Carr simply went the Captain Checkdown route?
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It's possible, but watching the game that's what it looked like to me. Almost all of the passes to the WRs were quick and within five yards of the line of scrimmage.
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Exactly. And the Jets caught on, obviously, and brought up the safety and corners. I think the play calling was weak also. But I agree, that I don't know squat about what was called and what Carr did with the play from there. After the game, Carr said to put the loss completely on him. Carr also appears to have the respect of his team mates and seams to command the respect of a true leader at QB.

I also said I wish he had a year to learn behind Schaub. Since Shaub was so underwhelming, Carr has to learn under live bullets. I hope the situation doesn't cost the Raiders a chance at having a true franchise QB.

Barnes at RT could be the death nail to Carr's chances of success and good health.

 
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BlackHole said:
ICON211 said:
Chaka said:
ICON211 said:
Chaka said:
Carr may look legit in practice but he looked overwhelmed last Sunday.

4.7 yards per attempt.
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Part of that was they did not let him do anything. They did not test the poor Jet corners till there was 2 minutes left in the game. I understand its a rookie QB, but if you are scared to let him actually do anything then I'm not sure how he gives you the best chance to win. Not sure if it was Allen or McKenzie who chose Knapp and Olsen, but both were unbelievably uninspiring choices.
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No offense but how do know that? Isn't it possible that there were plenty of pass plays called with deeper options and Carr simply went the Captain Checkdown route?
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It's possible, but watching the game that's what it looked like to me. Almost all of the passes to the WRs were quick and within five yards of the line of scrimmage.
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Exactly...
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Exactly what? You think they called 32 passes where the #1 option was within 4.7 yards from the line of scrimmage?

I am the leader of the "Fire Olsen" bandwagon but come on! Carr didn't even consider his deep options, which existed regardless of what Raider fans all hope, until desperation mode. Of course he can improve but that 4.7 is all on him.

 
Chaka said:
BlackHole said:
ICON211 said:
Chaka said:
ICON211 said:
Chaka said:
Carr may look legit in practice but he looked overwhelmed last Sunday.

4.7 yards per attempt.
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Part of that was they did not let him do anything. They did not test the poor Jet corners till there was 2 minutes left in the game. I understand its a rookie QB, but if you are scared to let him actually do anything then I'm not sure how he gives you the best chance to win. Not sure if it was Allen or McKenzie who chose Knapp and Olsen, but both were unbelievably uninspiring choices.
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No offense but how do know that? Isn't it possible that there were plenty of pass plays called with deeper options and Carr simply went the Captain Checkdown route?
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It's possible, but watching the game that's what it looked like to me. Almost all of the passes to the WRs were quick and within five yards of the line of scrimmage.
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Exactly...
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Exactly what? You think they called 32 passes where the #1 option was within 4.7 yards from the line of scrimmage?

I am the leader of the "Fire Olsen" bandwagon but come on! Carr didn't even consider his deep options, which existed regardless of what Raider fans all hope, until desperation mode. Of course he can improve but that 4.7 is all on him.
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ummm, perhaps the rest of the sentence you took one word from. I already stated I don't know squat about the actual plays called and what Carr did with them. You could be spot on, I don't know.

Exactly. And the Jets caught on, obviously, and brought up the safety and corners. I think the play calling was weak also. But I agree, that I don't know squat about what was called and what Carr did with the play from there.

I also didn't mention that I can't understand why we (errr, the Raiders) are running off tackle and TE so much when we have a big bruiser line with slow guys, against a fast tough front 7. But that's another discussion. Maybe Carr pulled them out of some different run plays at the line? I don't know.

 
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Chaka said:
Carr may look legit in practice but he looked overwhelmed last Sunday.

4.7 yards per attempt.
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I'm more concerned with his decision making than YPA at this stage in his career. We know he has the arm to get it down the field. An increase in efficiency will come as he acclimates to the league. If he's turnover and error-prone, he'll lose the trust of his team and his coaches (and perhaps his confidence as well) before he has a chance to blossom.

The big knock on him was his performance under pressure. He was under pressure almost half his snaps in his first game (4th highest percentage in the league). Net result for the game was 2 TDs with a 63% completion percentage, zero turnovers, and only 2 sacks. This in spite of a non-existent run game and a sub-par offensive line.

I think his debut was a fairly successful one, all things considered.

 
Raiderfan32904 said:
Settle down..nobody said this would be easy.
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I guess you have just come to accept the worst. I think after so many years of getting destroyed and a two year burn the place down and rebuild we have a right to expect something better than the worst team in football and absolute futility.

 
Well it is painfully clear that Reggie has lost on his gamble on old vets, and DA has to be held accountable for the play on the field. If this was the 5 or 6 game we might see DA fired after that performance, but what's the point? Would it get any better with Sparano as the HC?

The team is a train wreck that may go winless. At least we still have our first round pick.

 
Raiders All-Pro safety Charles Woodson had some pretty direct words to media following his team's 30-14 loss at home to the Houston Texans on Sunday.

The eight-time Pro Bowler, who won a Super Bowl with the Packers in 2011, said after the game in Week 2, "We're not very good ... We suck. I am embarrassed."

 
Tuck and Woodley look like great signings. They have a ton of gas left in the tank and that super bowl experience is paying huge dividends.

 
ICON211 said:
Tuck and Woodley look like great signings. They have a ton of gas left in the tank and that super bowl experience is paying huge dividends.
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Others noticed.

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierleinIf you're a raider fan, u have to be concerned w/ that defensive line opening a can of quit today. Justin Tuck looked disinterested in fball
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Every time a new player comes in.... Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Carson Palmer, etc. etc. etc., they all say the right things.

"We're excited to start a new chapter in Raider history, blah blah blah."

"This team has lots of potential, blah blah blah."

And it always ends the same way. A few games of humiliation in the black and silver and they quit like dogs.

 
I've said it many times and usually get ripped by the loyalists, but Hue Jackson actually had this arrow pointing upward and he got canned for a fiery press conference. That's the one that should chap all your asses most.

 
ICON211 said:
Tuck and Woodley look like great signings. They have a ton of gas left in the tank and that super bowl experience is paying huge dividends.
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:cool:

I'll admit I thought Tuck might have something left.

I haven't watched him do anything but put his hands on his knees and suck for extra air between plays. Sapp 2.0 but less of an initial impact; he just wanted a last pay day.

Antonio Smith seems to be the vet they hit on. He still has it.

 
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RBM said:
I've said it many times and usually get ripped by the loyalists, but Hue Jackson actually had this arrow pointing upward and he got canned for a fiery press conference. That's the one that should chap all your asses most.
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From what I can see right now; I can't argue with that.

 
Raider Nation said:
Every time a new player comes in.... Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Carson Palmer, etc. etc. etc., they all say the right things.

"We're excited to start a new chapter in Raider history, blah blah blah."

"This team has lots of potential, blah blah blah."

And it always ends the same way. A few games of humiliation in the black and silver and they quit like dogs.
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They are there to just collect a paycheck. And it shows. This team is terrible, historically bad. To play that poorly in their home opener against a mediocre team is an insult to the Raiders fan base. For the first time in 35 years I'm finding myself questioning my loyalty. 12 years of losing and no signs of progress are really starting to take a toll. Carr has promise but his supporting cast is so bad, it'll be a miracle if the kid makes it 16 games. On the bright side Watt was pretty quiet today. Well except for catching a TD, just the icing on the cake to an embarrassing day.
 
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