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2016 Oakland Raiders thread (3 Viewers)

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2016/8/31/12737542/five-oakland-raiders-bubble-battles-waged-in-preseason-finale-vs-seattle-seahawks

Five position battles to watch:

Jalen Richard vs Taiwan Jones


For the most part, Richard is his own competition. Should he perform at a high level Thursday as he did last Saturday, it could open some eyes – many of which could be those on other teams seeking a speedy running back like him.


 


Jones proves his worth on special teams most of the time, with the occasional niche back play in the spread or as an outlet for the QB to get him the ball in space. For that reason, it’s possible the team could keep both he and Richard. But again, that will depend on what Richard can show in the game.

Keeping both would mean the Raiders enter the season with five running backs – the others being Latavius Murray, DeAndre Washington, and (FB) Jamize Olawale. However, Marcel Reece is suspended for the first three games of the season, which could delay any major decision until he is set to return.


Matt McCants vs Denver Kirkland


The top eight linemen on this team appear to be locked in. That’s the starting five plus Austin Howard, Jon Feliciano, and Vadal Alexander. Should the team decide to keep a ninth offensive lineman, these two are the ones who will fight for that spot. Should they not opt to keep nine linemen, they could be battling for a spot on the practice squad.


 


Both players can play inside or outside. Though McCants has made his home mostly at tackle over the past three seasons in Oakland, while Kirkland is seen more as a guard than a tackle.

Kirkland was highly thought of coming out of Arkansas. He left school with a year left of eligibility and was ranked as a mid-round prospect by many. His biggest issue is his weight. At 6-5, 340 pounds, he doesn’t move well enough to play tackle. If he can get his weight down, he could be a nice project.


Stacy McGee vs Darius Latham


McGee, like McCants, have hung around as a reserve lineman due to an overall lack of depth on the Raiders the past three seasons. The Raiders have been testing him a lot this preseason as they decide whether to keep him around now that there is actually some decent competition at the position.

Latham was arguably the most highly touted undrafted free agent signing the Raiders had this offseason. He has lived up to the praise of those who said he was should have been drafted. The Raiders have been high on him all offseason and this preseason, PFF graded him as their top rookie defensive tackle.

Keeping both would be illogical. They already have Justin Ellis and Dan Williams at nose tackle and Jihad Ward at the 3-tech. With as much 3-4 as they will play, it makes no sense to keep more than four defensive tackles.


Neiko Thorpe vs Dexter McDonald


This is a very tough decision for the Raiders to make. Thorpe was the Raiders’ nickel cornerback late last season. He even had a game-clinching interception on Joe Flacco in the team’s week two win over the Ravens. They liked him enough to keep him on a second-round Restricted Free Agent tender this year.

The unfortunate thing for Thorpe is, he hasn’t quite played as well as he had when he made the team two years ago while at the same time Dexter McDonald has showed a lot of promise.

McDonald was the Raiders’ seventh round pick last season. He appeared in just six games last year, including the last five games, seeing more extensive action.

Early in preseason, Thorpe had an interception. Last week he saw only snaps on special teams while the team got a long look at McDonald and some undrafted hopefuls. There may not be anything to read into that other than the team wanting to get a look at other players. It’s also important to understand just how key special teams play will be in who lands a roster spot. And it’s also a possibility they keep both.


Dewey McDonald vs Brynden Trawick


Speaking of special teams… From of the looks of things, the top four safety spots are sewn up. That means whomever gets this spot will be earning it based on their special teams prowess. Though if special teams play were equal, the safety play would be factored in as the deciding factor.

All offseason the Raiders and training camp, the Raiders were very high on McDonald. He was a primary backup; even consistently seeing time with the first team while Reggie Nelson and Karl Joseph were out. Then came the preseason and ugh. He was bad. Out of position, poor angles, and bad tackling technique. Meanwhile Keith McGill made the transition to safety and looks to have grabbed one of the backup spots.

McDonald made some plays on special teams, but over the past two weeks, Trawick has lapped in. The former Ravens key reserve and special teamer blocked a punt that was recovered for a touchdown in week two and then began the game with three straight special teams plays, including the first two stops short of the 20-yard-line. This battle may already be over.
I'm hoping Thorpe and Dexter both make the team. 

It'll be a bummer if Richard doesn't make the team, and the team needs to be nervous about a IND or WAS scooping him up.  

 
Richard and Trawick >>> Taiwan and Dewey

Keep the guys that have been making plays all camp and preseason.

 
I took Raiders D and had other options please tell me it will be ok...after the last couple of preseason games I really had to think about this. 

Ps...late D not early D

 
I would not start them on the road against New Orleans. I'm using SF for opening week, then looking to pick up Oakland.  

 
Raiders Seahawks, baby. Sweet memories. 

Apparently I'm not the only one who reminisces when these two teams play each other yearly in preseason:

http://www.espn.com/blog/oakland-raiders/post/_/id/15459/tbt-to-when-the-raiders-and-seahawks-played-a-meaningful-game-in-los-angeles

And what a team it was:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198812180rai.htm

You had stellar "new guys" in Bo and Tim Brown, guys in their prime like Howie and Greg Thownsend and Marcus, and some of the stalwart iconic figures of yore like Christensen, Millen, Willie Gault, Mike Haynes and even Reggie McKenzie. Also a lot of other names that bring back sweet memories like Swervyn Mervyn Fernandez, Bill Pickel and Jay "Pigface" Schroeder.

Looking at that '88 team, seems like if we won that division -- even if we were a wildcard -- we might have had a shot at the Superbowl. Bills and Cincy were pretty strong then, but look at our team on paper. That's why they play the games, I guess. 

 
The absolute best thing you can get out of a preseason schedule is no major injuries; especially with some of the starters playing more than I would like to see in meaningless games.  I'll take it; time for the real bullets now.

 
So Atkinson has to make the team (at least as an STer), right? Love Richard, but think he may just have been relegated to practice squad unless the team is ready to say bye to Taiwan (can't see us keeping that many RBs).

Loved seeing Denico Autry so dominant through the game (against 1s through 4s) as a backstop to the cruddy news about Mario.

Also loved seeing Calhoun step up and look dominant, and the entire depth of the line so effective controlling the line and getting penetration consistently.

Durden also looked strong at the end of the game, defending at least two passes that were nearly INTs. 

 
Raiders Seahawks, baby. Sweet memories. 

Apparently I'm not the only one who reminisces when these two teams play each other yearly in preseason:

http://www.espn.com/blog/oakland-raiders/post/_/id/15459/tbt-to-when-the-raiders-and-seahawks-played-a-meaningful-game-in-los-angeles

And what a team it was:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198812180rai.htm

You had stellar "new guys" in Bo and Tim Brown, guys in their prime like Howie and Greg Thownsend and Marcus, and some of the stalwart iconic figures of yore like Christensen, Millen, Willie Gault, Mike Haynes and even Reggie McKenzie. Also a lot of other names that bring back sweet memories like Swervyn Mervyn Fernandez, Bill Pickel and Jay "Pigface" Schroeder.

Looking at that '88 team, seems like if we won that division -- even if we were a wildcard -- we might have had a shot at the Superbowl. Bills and Cincy were pretty strong then, but look at our team on paper. That's why they play the games, I guess. 
That 88 game was one of the most frustrating I've ever watched. Damn defense couldn't stop anybody. Still ticks me off. You forgot to mention Steve Smith, a criminally underrated player.   The Seahawks had never won an AFC West title until that year. I used to hang that over my Seahawks friends head, until that game. 

 
Word is Cowser is cut, Holton makes team. 

I expect Richard to make team over Atkinson. 

Taiwan not playing might have meant they didn't want him to get hurt before they cut him.

 
(Rotoworld) Raiders waived RB George Atkinson III, OG Mitch Bell, WR K.J. Brent, CB Kenneth Durden, WR Marvin Hall, DL Drew Iddings, DL Branden Jackson, OG Denver Kirkland, DT Derrick Lott, LB John Lotulelei, TE Jake McGee, WR Jaydon Mickens, TE Ryan O'Malley, OG Oni Omoile, LB Korey Toomer, DL Greg Townsend Jr. and LB Kyrie Wilson.

Nice to see Reggie getting something for someone we were going to cut. 

NFL transactions show Seattle gave a 2017 7th to Oakland for McDonaldand a 2018 7th to 49ers for McCray. Each listed as conditional.

 
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Neiron was the only surprise.

Could not stay healthy. Raiders trying to stash in IR with Cowser.

 
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4 UDFA made it, Holton, Latham, Richard, and Antonio whatshisname, but when Reece and Mario are back, Antonio is probably gone.

 
Team stashed Cowser and Ball on IR, which is like two extra PS spots.

Nice day for former Raiders. Streater traded to SF, Atkinson claimed by CLE, Thorpe climbed by IND.

 
Mario placed on IR, eligible to return Week 9.


Mario Edwards - DL - Raiders


Raiders placed DE Mario Edwards (hip) on injured reserve.
He won't be eligible until Week 9, at which point the Raiders could activate Edwards by designating him their I.R./recall player. The Raiders will move forward with Jihad Ward, Denico Autry, Dan Williams, and Khalil Mack on the line.
 
Allen starting over Joseph, at least on the depth chart, was a little surprising; but I think on the road against Drew Brees is probably not the best scenario for a rookie safety to get his first NFL start.

 
Are they still stuck at 750 and no profit sharing; or no deal?

My biggest concern about Vegas is how easy it is for opposing fans to travel/vacation/attend.
Also can't discount how easy it will be for the NorCal, SoCal and Nevada fans the Raiders already have plus the locals that will jump on board, especially if they put out a winning season or two.

 
Following those Twitter feeds is eye-opening.  

The opposing view makes it seem like it's gonna get shoved through, with classic shady back room dealing going on, and Adelson's lobbyists buddying up with lawmakers, and that mayor is as straight as a corkscrew.

Sounds good to me!

 
massraider said:
Following those Twitter feeds is eye-opening.  

The opposing view makes it seem like it's gonna get shoved through, with classic shady back room dealing going on, and Adelson's lobbyists buddying up with lawmakers, and that mayor is as straight as a corkscrew.

Sounds good to me!


Money talks...I just want to see the stadium plans.

 
https://raidersanalysis.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/raider-safety-play-and-karl-joseph-by-gipsy-soldier/
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Raider Safety Play and Karl Joseph by Gipsy Safety





It’s the inaugural preparation week for the 2016 season and as the team gets ready to go beat the New Orleans Saints, the first depth chart has been released. Notable because it indicates that prized rookie safety Karl Joseph has been listed as a backup, replaced in the starting lineup by 2nd year Raider Nate Allen.

For some it may have been a bit surprising, but in many ways it shouldn’t be. He was the 14th overall pick, but some had considered it a bit of a reach to take him there because he spent most of his final collegiate season sidelined by an ACL tear. While his recovery has been on track, he is still a recovering player and during the preseason he’s been eased into the playing time, seeing limited action with the first team unit early on and then getting a bit more extended time later on, eventually even showing up on special teams.

If we look a little bit more closely, Ken Norton may have given us an insight into how the demands on the safeties in his system are different and more expansive than in a traditional system and how much Karl Joseph may have on his plate.


Safety Play


Seattle’s Legion of Boom secondary is anchored by its safety play, the explosive, rangy, and instinctive Earl Thomas (5’10", 205 lbs) who can cover sideline to sideline from the deep middle and the powerful, explosive, gargantuan 6’3″, 232 lbs Kam Chancellor who patrols the underneath area. Thomas is like the "Legion" because it seems like he’s everywhere downfield while Chancellor definitely lowers the "Boom" at every opportunity.

They each are both phenomenal players who are perfectly cast in their respective roles and it is very obvious that they each do play very specific roles that cater and augment their strengths while hiding their weaknesses. Neither player would be nearly as acclaimed if they were to reverse their roles. Kam Chancellor in the deep middle would open up some downfield opportunities and Earl Thomas would not put the same kind of fear into opposing receivers if he were regularly deployed in the box.

When Ken Norton Jr was hired away from Seattle as the Oakland defensive coordinator, a natural assumption was that he would be running the same defense that Pete Carroll implemented. This would mean that the Raiders would be in search of their own LOB-type safeties, maybe Woodson for deep middle and someone like Taylor Mays (6’3", 220 lbs) as the underneath intimidator.

Norton has schematically implemented much of what Seattle was doing defensively,but he has–presumably with an assist from Head Coach Jack Del Rio–clearly diverged in some meaningful ways. One of those ways shows up when we study he seems to be want to use his safeties.

It’s still just pre-season and obviously we will not get a true sense of the full defensive scheme. In fact, he’s used a variety of different alignments and schemes so he may still be defining exactly what he wants to do to best utilize his players and gets a further sense of what works and what doesn’t. It’s an evaluation time, but part of the evaluation is to see how well the players execute plays that are part of the scheme.

In the first pre-season game at Arizona, the safeties scheme was really interesting. When studying the game, it jumps off the screen, but on casual viewing, it was easy to miss.

It started on the fourth series when the safeties were Dewey McDonald (who was signed to Practice Squad last year in December) and Nate Allen.

Here’s a closer look.


Lining up


For the most part, Norton favored the Man-Free (man-to-man coverage underneath with a single free safety deep) or Cover-3 scheme, both of which use a single deep safety and a strong safety closer to the line of scrimmage. These are the primary coverages of the Seattle Seahawks.

Here are two Pre-snap shots where we can see the defensive backfield.

Pre-snap #1 :



#35 Dewey McDonald is playing the single high free safety position and #20 Nate Allen is down in the strong safety position.

Pre-snap #2 :



Here, we see their roles flipped with Allen deep and McDonald up. They did this repeatedly, swapping positions and roles based on the offensive alignment.

Nate Allen took the left side and McDonald was to the right; when the strength of the formation was to the defensive left side, Allen played the Strong Safety role and when the strength was to the right side, it was McDonald.

It’s no unusual for safeties to sometimes switch, but when it is done regularly and systematically, it becomes more interesting and worthy of attention.

A couple of things immediately come to mind.

  • There’s quite an opportunity to create a dynamic and adaptable defense in this fashion.
  • It is physically and mentally demanding of both safeties.
Here’s a look at some of what the Defense was showing out of these alignments.


Rotation


Typically, when a TE motions from one side to another, one of two things happens :

  • the safety follows, indicating man coverage
  • the safety stays still and the LBs adjust, indicating zone coverage
On occasion, the Cardinals would motion the TE across the formation, which had the effect of changing the strength of the formation. Here’s what the Raiders did with McDonald and Allen :



The safety duo rotated like this :

Alignment :



Here we see the initial alignment with Dewey McDonald down low and Nate Allen playing the single deep Free Safety role.

Motion and Rotation :



When the TE motions, the safeties rotate and swap their roles on the fly.

New Alignment :



So here, Nate Allen is now the Strong Safety and Dewey McDonald is the single deep Free Safety.

The QB now needs to depend upon other indicators to determine whether it is man or zone coverage.


Disguises


Seattle is famous for giving a Cover 1 look and then running Cover 3 with the corners playing press-bail technique and this is (generally) the extent of how they disguise their coverage. They are not diverse and are not exotic, rather they are so perfectly coached and supremely talented that this is enough to thwart most every QB that wants to throw against them.

Most other teams don’t have that luxury and in the modern NFL, most teams use a variety of coverages and spend a great deal of time disguising them.

In the above examples, it’s obvious who is playing what role because the player “declares” himself when he moves into position. So when we see Dewey McDonald drop back 15 yards deep in the middle of the field, he’s telling the offense that he’s playing free safety. Similarly, Nate Allen lining up in the box opposite the tight end broadcasts his intent to the QB.

Naturally, players can "declare" their positions, wait for the QB to make his reads, and then shift to their intended, true position forcing the QB (as well as the receivers) to mentally adjust on the fly.


Switch Things Up


A “Cover 2 Shell” or “Two-Deep Shell” basically means that both the safeties are playing Split-Free safety positions. They each line up deep, but instead of being in the middle of the field, they split the field in half. They essentially have equivalent responsibilities, so when they are deployed like this, their skills and roles are more similar than not.

A Cover 2 Shell can have man or zone underneath and there are various strategies to attack either one; those approaches are naturally very different from the way they may try to exploit a Cover 3 or Man-Free coverage.

From that Two Deep look, the safeties could drop back and play Cover 2 or they could rotate just prior to the snap into a Cover 3 or Man-Free look. And even if the QB knows or expects a defensive rotation, the safeties could still add some confusion by the way they rotate.

Here’s an example :

Cover 2 Alignment :



Here’s the Cover 2 alignment with both Dewey and Nate playing deep and each covering half the field.

Expected Rotation :



From here, they could hold that position and play coverage, but instead they will rotate.

The Tight End is lined up on the right side so we would expect Dewey to drop back as the Free Safety and Nate to step up to be the Strong Safety.

Actual Rotation :



But in this case, the safeties will actually rotate in the opposite way. Nate drops back and Dewey comes up.

Position after snap :



And here is how they get into their coverage. Here, they are in a Cover 3 instead of the initial look of Cover 2.


Disguising Blitz


Intentionally or not, Pete Carroll takes another page out of Al Davis’ defensive playbook. It’s no secret that Al never liked the blitz and the Seahawks are a team built on getting pressure predominantly with their four man rush without having to resort to a blitz.

Again, Ken Norton diverges a bit from his mentor.

A big reason to disguise coverage is to bring a corner or safety blitz. Cornerbacks and safeties are generally not going to be able to engage and fight thru a block to bring pressure on the QB; their best weapon on a pass rush is the element of surprise… and their speed… and ruthless efficiency. (Hat Tip to Monty Python and the Spanish Inquisition).

When using defensive backs to blitz, the defense really hopes to get a clear alley to the QB. Part of doing that is by disguising the coverage and hiding the intent to bring the blitzer (generally the slot CB). If the offense does not expect the CB, they may turn the protection away from him (probably towards Khalil Mack) which may allow for a free run at the QB.

Here are two examples, one from each side of the field :


Example 1 : Blitz from Dewey’s Side


Here’s a look at a CB blitz from Dewey McDonald’s side :



Pre-snap :



The safeties are lined up in a muddled, not-quite distinct alignment. Sort of 2 deep, but sort of looking like it wants to be Cover 1.

Blitz and Rotation :



The blitz will come from the slot CB and Dewey McDonald will step up and take over that coverage while Nate drops back as the deep free safety.

During the snap :




Example 2 : From Nate’s Side


Here’s a look at a CB blitz from Nate Allen’s side :



Cover 2 Alignment :



It begins with a Cover 2 Shell look with a slot CB. This time the slot receiver is in a relatively short split which puts the CB much closer to the QB.

Blitz and Rotation :



On the snap, the CB blitzes, Nate takes that coverage, and Dewey drops back to deep FS.

After the snap :



Scheme, approach, alignment are one thing. Execution and effectiveness are another.

The scheme itself allows for Ken Norton to do many inventive things to attack the QB, but it also requires great execution so that the blitz is effective and does not just allow for big plays.

What we see on these blitz plays is that either safety may be called upon to play man coverage on a wide receiver.


Back in 2015


One reason that the Dewey/Nate safety usage sparked my interest was because it harked back to the 2015 season. The approach of using the safeties as interchangeable SS/FS depending on the formation was precisely how Ken Norton used his safeties last year… sort of.

At the beginning of the 2015 season, the Raiders’ starting safety duo was Nate Allen and Charles Woodson.

Unfortunately, in 2015 this safety combination was only healthy for the first drive-and-a-half before an unexpected low-flying Ray Ray took out Nate Allen’s knee and put him out Nate Allen for a chunk of the season. Then later in that same game, Charles Woodson wrecked his shoulder making a tackle (on what was a meaningless play at the end of the game).

In 2015, Ken Norton had both his starting safeties at full strength for only 11 plays.

Here they are :























The totals work out like this :


PLAYER


SS


FS


COVER 2


Nate Allen


5


5


1


Charles Woodson


5


5


1

It’s an equal split.

When Nate Allen was signed from Philadelphia, there was a little confusion among the Raiders’ fans about what position he would play. Some thought he would be a Strong safety since that was his position in Philadelphia while others thought his skills were more a fit for a Free. But that would be strange b/c Charles Woodson seemed more of a fit at Free Safety than Strong.

As it turns out, it seems the intent was to NOT lock them down into a rigid, traditional role, but rather to have them effectively play part-time at both positions.

This can be great, but the big drawback is that it requires great all-around football ability from not one, but two players. Minnesota does something similar which allows the defense to take full advantage of Harrison Smith’s formidable skillset, but unfortunately their other safety Andrew Sendejo is more limited in his abilities and skills.

When Allen went out, either Larry Asante and Taylor Mays took over Nate’s spot and neither had the ability to play all of the field, so Norton reverted to the more traditional safety scheme. (note: this may have contributed to the Raiders’ problems with covering Tight End early in the season)

Even with Taylor Mays playing, this dual-role safety scheme showed up at times. Here are two examples from later in the year.

Week 14 v DEN :



Week 17 v KC :




Going Forward


To be sure the Raiders used a number of different defensive alignments over the course of last year’s regular season and in this year’s pre-season. Quite a bit of the 2015 season had safeties play traditional roles and in this year’s latter pre-season games, Ken Norton unveiled and experimented with the "Penny" defense where they lined up with one safety and 3 CBs (Smith, Amerson, and DJ Hayden).

Until the season starts, we won’t know a lot of things. This may be the primary safety scheme or it may not be. Right now, it’s hard to tell. From the study, though, it seems fair to say that at the very least, Ken Norton wants it to be a part of the defensive scheme.

From just a cursory look at the plays, it’s clear that it requires not just great physical abilities to play both roles, but a player has to have the mental capacity to absorb all the assignments for two positions.

And mistakes or failure by either safety could lead to some big plays.

Charles Woodson was a near ideal candidate to man one of those safety positions. He’s a unique player that has the perfect blend of all the needed physical skills, plus he’s a veritable football genius who has seen and done it all on the field.

When Nate Allen was signed in the 2015 offseason, there was some debate by fans as to which position he was going to play. Over his career, he’s been used in both positions and it was not immediately clear where his best spot was. Interestingly, it appears that his experience playing both roles was important in his signing.

At the end of the season, CWood retired and Nate Allen was cut.

While Woodson stayed retired, Nate Allen was subsequently re-signed to a cheaper contract and Reggie McKenzie went out and signed 8-year veteran Reggie Nelson from Cincinnati. Nelson has been primarily a Free Safety throughout his career and it remains to be seen how well he would take to being used as a "Box Safety" at times. Note that in the preseason, Reggie did get some playing time at the Strong position.

The jewel in the crown came in the draft.


Karl Joseph


With the #14 overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, Reggie McKenzie drafted West Virginia safety Karl Joseph presumably as a fit for Ken Norton’s defense. He’s a supremely gifted athlete and a down-and-dirty football player that loved putting his nose into the middle of the play.

Three key skills just jump off his game tape :

  •  
  • His sideline to sideline range that raised comparisons to Earl Thomas
  • His big hitting ability that raised comparisons to Bob Sanders
  • His surprisingly good man coverage ability


The diverse physical skillset makes Joseph an ideal player for this scheme and if he can get fully healthy and fully acclimated to all the duties he’ll have to perform (effectively learning two positions) then he may quickly become an impact playmaker.

The only negatives are that physically he’s a bit smaller (5’8", 205 lbs) and that he’s coming off that injury.

Joseph has been playing in the pre-season and he’s flashed enough to be exciting but shown that also he’s a rookie. He’s definitely a dynamic presence and when he lets loose it’s really fun to watch, but it’s also clear that there’s a lot running thru his head and that the game is really fast for him right now.

His highlight so far may be the hit on Eddie Lacy at the goalline (with an assist from Jihad Ward) :



but there were also times when he was little slow to react like this :



The safety position in the NFL is very difficult and asking a rookie to step in right away and perform mistake-free at 100% speed is really asking a great deal. Putting Nate Allen as the starter and letting Karl sit for now was the safest move to make. He’s still working his way back to 100% from his ACL injury and as a rookie in a fairly complicated scheme, his head is probably swimming a bit.

The plan is clearly for him to work his way into the starting role as soon as he’s ready for it and the Raiders have the luxury to ease him in. But make no mistake, he’s the future. Reggie McKenzie saw that special combination of physical skills and (judging by his other picks), he’s assessed Karl’s work ethic and love of the game and found another True Raider.

I’m just a little disappointed though.

Not in Karl Joseph. I know that he’s going to do everything he can to get on the field and take that starter’s job. I’m just disappointed for my own impatient, selfish reasons; I want to see him wrecking offenses NOW!

Even more traditional NFL safety schemes have rookies’ heads swimming. Here in Oakland, we have something that looks like it’s about twice as complex and demanding so it’s no surprise that the rookie will not begin the year as the starter, especially with two veteran incumbents. But what is exciting is that this scheme seems to be ideal to take full advantage of Karl’s myriad talents and allow him to be a devastating player, a "Legion of Boom" packaged into a single player!

https://raidersanalysis.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/raider-safety-play-and-karl-joseph-by-gipsy-soldier/


 
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The defense isn't ready for a QB like Brees. Too many penalties, too many 3 and outs. And 98 TD passes should never happen. Pretty disappointed. Again.....

But there's still hope!

 
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That was really cool to see Richard with the long TD run back home; not only a major play in the game, but really cool moment for that kid and his family.

 
Was in the car listening to the end if the game. Greg Papa's head was popping off. So exciting to listen to on the radio. 

Touchdoooowwwwwwnnnnnn Rrrrrrrraaaaaiiiidddeeeerrrrrssss!

 
Was in the car listening to the end if the game. Greg Papa's head was popping off. So exciting to listen to on the radio. 

Touchdoooowwwwwwnnnnnn Rrrrrrrraaaaaiiiidddeeeerrrrrssss!
If anybody has a link to that live call during the last 90 seconds post it....

 
great game ...ballsy 2 point conversion call ...i was sweating bullets but man that was fun to watch...all the preseason excitement hasnt let me down

 
Buckle up 'cause this is gonna be exciting.  If we're gonna win, this is how we'll have to do it.  Can anyone cover anything?  The secondary is a total liability, even moreso than I expected.  I never liked the safeties, but then Sean Smith got abused too; I didn't expect that.  I know it's just one game but I'm going from here to Sportstrac to see the terms of that bigdog contract of his and how easily we can get clear of it.  LB's can't cover me.

Carr carried us.  Crabtree's punk ### tried to lose it for us but Janikowski boomed one and saved it.

 
I'd really like to hear the story on Sean Smith's debut.  I really hope he has the flu or something, if not WTF was that.

 
I'd really like to hear the story on Sean Smith's debut.  I really hope he has the flu or something, if not WTF was that.
He rode the bench after he gave up the 98 yard TD. I'm sure the coaches will get him back in there next week, but I gotta hand it to Hayden. He had one PI call, but after that, held his own in my opinion. Blame the lack of pass rush all you want but the middle of the Raiders pass defense is still a liability (as it has been for years). Start all TEs vs the Raiders again this year until they can get someone to cover them. 

I feel bad for Watson, hopefully his injury isn't serious. Also didn't like seeing Carr being scraped up off the turf at the end of the game. But he's a gamer, gotta love him!

 
Brees is the man.

Defense is still suspect, but one guy who showed up today is Bruce muthertrucken Irvin. Surprised the Saints didn't run more.

Jalen Richard (health permitting) is the most talented RB on this roster. His lateral instincts are a world better than DWash and a galaxy better than Lat. Slow forty my ###.

Still do not trust JDR but that 2 pt attempt at the end took some balls. Like that.

Carr can still be erratic but that final drive was ice and a complete contradiction to my biggest fear about him... That he can't make plays when pressure is on.

Great day for Raider Nation.

 
Bruno2 said:
He rode the bench after he gave up the 98 yard TD. I'm sure the coaches will get him back in there next week, but I gotta hand it to Hayden. He had one PI call, but after that, held his own in my opinion. Blame the lack of pass rush all you want but the middle of the Raiders pass defense is still a liability (as it has been for years). Start all TEs vs the Raiders again this year until they can get someone to cover them. 

I feel bad for Watson, hopefully his injury isn't serious. Also didn't like seeing Carr being scraped up off the turf at the end of the game. But he's a gamer, gotta love him!
The entire defense was bad.  I had the opposite thoughts on Hayden today.  I could be wrong but I think he got called for 2 PIs and a defensive holding and was not good at all today.  Hopefully they get the defense to play better (can't play worse) and the bottom line is we got a road win to start the season.  

 
Hankmoody said:
Buckle up 'cause this is gonna be exciting.  If we're gonna win, this is how we'll have to do it.  Can anyone cover anything?  The secondary is a total liability, even moreso than I expected.  I never liked the safeties, but then Sean Smith got abused too; I didn't expect that.  I know it's just one game but I'm going from here to Sportstrac to see the terms of that bigdog contract of his and how easily we can get clear of it.  LB's can't cover me.

Carr carried us.  Crabtree's punk ### tried to lose it for us but Janikowski boomed one and saved it.
Brees at home, man. Makes every defense look bad.

Go ahead and take a day to enjoy. 

 
I enjoyed it a ton, and I'll do so all week.  I said it was exciting and Carr carried us, and we got a win - what's not to enjoy?  We're not there but we're also not in 2007 either.  It's gonna be fun. 

 
LawFitz said:
Carr can still be erratic but that final drive was ice and a complete contradiction to my biggest fear about him... That he can't make plays when pressure is on.
The more I watch Carr, the more I see shades of a former No. 4. Guy who went to Southern Mississippi and had a pretty stellar NFL career...

 
What Happened to Carr on the last few plays? I only saw him laying on the ground and down on one knee at the end.

From this game esp the end i see a bit of Snake there with

The more I watch Carr, the more I see shades of a former No. 4. Guy who went to Southern Mississippi and had a pretty stellar NFL career...
From this game, esp the end, i see a bit of Snake there stepping up when the pressure is on

 
Coming back on the road on the East Coast is big.  Black Jack scored some points with the team by going for 2.

They need to avoid a letdown next week.  The team we want to be should push the Falcons around.  

Those Snead types continue to kill us.  

I gotta give Irvin props, he was big today.  

 

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