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2018 NCAA Tournament/Shtick Thread: TBS cameraman focused on crying kid who just happens to be up too late (1 Viewer)

teams overthink the whole 2 for 1. Both Kansas and Nova fired up quick 3's. The clock not stopping on a made basket at end of first half adds extra time if you dont stop them. 

 
Long Ball Larry said:
As bad as it looks for Kansas at times, they still are allowing nothing inside.  Obviously nova can't keep up the 3 point rate all game and unless they can attack more inside, it should tighten up in the second half.
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If Nova had shot their season 3PT average in the first half, it’s a very manageable 38-32.  

Now, Nova worked really hard to get open threes - it’s not like they are getting lucky bounces or hitting shots with defenders draped all over them - but they are running hot.  

Self has a phobia about threes in domes.  Nova shot 16 threes before KU even attempted one.  That was probably a “no threes” decree from the coach. 

I don’t know if Nova needs to change anything.  They pass the ball so well, if they just keep it moving they should win easily.  TV commentators made a big deal out of Kansas switching to zone, but all they did was bait Nova into a couple early shots - once they ran their usual ball movement, KU had to switch back to man.

Wright probably didn’t like the offensive boards Nova gave up in the first half, but I doubt he overreacts to that.  Only way KU wins is if they get white-hot on threes, and Nova is too quick to consistently give up open shots.  

Nova has been the best team in the country all season and they are proving it tonight.

 
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I'm also looking at the regression if they shoot twenty-six more threes. I still think Kansas winning the game is possible, but I wonder what the expected win percentage is right now. 

 
It's too bad Kansas couldn't choke in an earlier round like in typical fashion.  Cost us all a really great Duke Nova game.

 
Sister Jean would be happy to know that this second game is going to make getting up for Sunrise Service tomorrow a lot easier. 

 
Well, ratfart.

Great game, Nova.  One of the best offensive teams we’ve seen in CBB played one of the best offensive halves we’ve seen at the Final Four.  A worthy 1-seed that deserves to play in the last game of the season.

Was a lot of fun seeing the crimson-and-Blue suit up at the Final Four even if the result wasn’t what I wanted.  Their season exceeded expectations, and that’s tough to do in Lawrence.

Really glad Graham and Svi got to play in a Final Four.  Graham was a four-year contributor who played most of his career in Frank Mason’s shadow, broke out as Big XII POY.  Svi sacrificed a lot coming to the USA to play college ball, wish him well in his pro career, whichever country it may be.

On paper, next season’s team looks competitive nationally.  But that’s a discussion for another day in another thread.

I’ll be tuning in on Monday to see how this story finishes.

 
jon_mx said:
I think these are the two best teams in the finals, although Villanova is clearly the best. 
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Michigan is fine, but I highly doubt they’re the second best team. Needed a buzzer beater to win round 2, then beat a 7, 9 and an 11 to get here. They had a fortunate road. Would be shocked if Nova doesn’t smoke them. 

 
Capella said:
Michigan is fine, but I highly doubt they’re the second best team. Needed a buzzer beater to win round 2, then beat a 7, 9 and an 11 to get here. They had a fortunate road. Would be shocked if Nova doesn’t smoke them. 
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They have still won't 14 straight and over some very good teams.  A couple of the games in this touny were not their best though.  

 
Capella said:
Michigan is fine, but I highly doubt they’re the second best team. Needed a buzzer beater to win round 2, then beat a 7, 9 and an 11 to get here. They had a fortunate road. Would be shocked if Nova doesn’t smoke them. 
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Come on man.  You are better than to use seeds as a gauge on how difficult of a road each team has had.  Loyola was only a two point dog to Miami in the first round, for example.  Do you think that says the talent disparity is true for a 6 v 11 seed?

 
tjnc09 said:
Come on man.  You are better than to use seeds as a gauge on how difficult of a road each team has had.  Loyola was only a two point dog to Miami in the first round, for example.  Do you think that says the talent disparity is true for a 6 v 11 seed?
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Think Loyola was 41 in sagarin pre-tourney. Getting them in the final four is inanely fortunate. There’s no other way to spin it. 

 
defensive efficiencies for opponents (KP/TR)

Radford (127/147)

Alabama (20/25)

West Virginia (42/36)

Texas Tech (4/4)

Kansas (40/32)

Michigan (3/3)

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Montana (56/62)

Houston (12/14)

Texas AM (13/17)

Florida St (33/34)

Loyola Chi (17/23)

Villanova (14/10)

The best defense Villanova faced all tournament held them to 71 points.

 
Capella said:
Think Loyola was 41 in sagarin pre-tourney. Getting them in the final four is inanely fortunate. There’s no other way to spin it. 
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Absolutely they had luck getting to the F4, but they were never huge underdogs.  They were an extremely good team who was much better than a typical 11 seed.  Vegas >>>> everything else.

 
tjnc09 said:
Absolutely they had luck getting to the F4, but they were never huge underdogs.  They were an extremely good team who was much better than a typical 11 seed.  Vegas >>>> everything else.
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Loyola was a dog in each game, not sure what your Vegas angle is. Miami was also 39 in sagarin so they were probably way over seeded. 

Not sure what your point is, but if it’s anything other than Michigan caught a huge break in their final four matchup, it’s wrong. Michigan is a good team, Loyola is a good team, and there are also better teams. Unless you’re naive enough to think the final four is the best four teams in the country. :loco:  

 
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Capella said:
Think Loyola was 41 in sagarin pre-tourney. Getting them in the final four is inanely fortunate. There’s no other way to spin it. 
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BracketMatrix crew was pretty much all in agreement Loyola would be an 11-seed.  Any dissent put them on the 12 line.  

Pomeroy had Loyola 1.9% to make the Final Four the night the brackets were released.  Only 18.2% to make Final Four going into the Sweet 16.  Heck, KenPom had Loyola at "only" 31 going into tonight, even after winning four NCAA Tournament games.  

And none of that takes into account how fortunate Michigan was in their region.  Hit a buzzer-beater to beat 6-seed Houston.  Didn't have to play 2-seed UNC in the Sweet 16 round.  Didn't have to play 1-seed Xavier or 4-seed Gonzaga in regional final, instead drawing 9-seed Florida State.  

Chalk said Michigan's road was UNC, Xavier, and Virginia to get to the Finals.
They played Texas A&M, Florida State, and Loyola-Chicago.  

Is it really that controversial to say Michigan got lucky along the way?    

 
Capella said:
Loyola was a dog in each game, not sure what your Vegas angle is. Miami was also 39 in sagarin so they were probably way over seeded. 

Not sure what your point is, but if it’s anything other than Michigan caught a huge break in their final four matchup, it’s wrong. 
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lol ok

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
BracketMatrix crew was pretty much all in agreement Loyola would be an 11-seed.  Any dissent put them on the 12 line.  

Pomeroy had Loyola 1.9% to make the Final Four the night the brackets were released.  Only 18.2% to make Final Four going into the Sweet 16.  Heck, KenPom had Loyola at "only" 31 going into tonight, even after winning four NCAA Tournament games.  

And none of that takes into account how fortunate Michigan was in their region.  Hit a buzzer-beater to beat 6-seed Houston.  Didn't have to play 2-seed UNC in the Sweet 16 round.  Didn't have to play 1-seed Xavier or 4-seed Gonzaga in regional final, instead drawing 9-seed Florida State.  

Chalk said Michigan's road was UNC, Xavier, and Virginia to get to the Finals.
They played Texas A&M, Florida State, and Loyola-Chicago.  

Is it really that controversial to say Michigan got lucky along the way?    
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Apparently it is. Crazy to me how anybody could argue otherwise. 

 
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