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2021 Las Vegas Raiders - PLAYOFFS!!!! (4 Viewers)
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The Frankman
Footballguy
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massraider
Footballguy
Buh bye.
Please feel free to waste some more 1st round picks on your way out the door
Please feel free to waste some more 1st round picks on your way out the door
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Jesus.
This team is ####ed. Really sad. I hope like hell, mark davis doesn’t have to pay this dork anymore money.
Have y’all seen the NYT stuff about Gruden calling goodell a bunch of names, and saying that the NFL forced the rams to sign the “######” Michael Sam?
i hate to be right, but DAMN IT! I KNEW this guy was a clown.
In gus Bradley we trust
This team is ####ed. Really sad. I hope like hell, mark davis doesn’t have to pay this dork anymore money.
Have y’all seen the NYT stuff about Gruden calling goodell a bunch of names, and saying that the NFL forced the rams to sign the “######” Michael Sam?
i hate to be right, but DAMN IT! I KNEW this guy was a clown.
In gus Bradley we trust
JaxBill
Footballguy
The Frankman
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massraider
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
I assume this year is toast but consider it a reset with potentially a far better coach. Getting stuck with that guy for another 5 years would be terrible for the Raiders.
The Frankman
Footballguy
It was an investigation in to the WFT franchise and their "culture" over the last decade.
SDJohnny
Footballguy
We are better off without him. Bad in game coaching decisions, bad personnel decisions, high contract, poor character. I was already concerned about the lack of diversity in our coaching staff, which the Raiders have traditionally had. Hire Bienemy (sp) now and stick it to the Chiefs.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
I’m unsure. It seems that they were “part” of the investigation into the WFT sexual misconduct case.
However, Gruden is an absolute idiot for putting these things in any email. The Nasssib issues alone, would probably have done in him.
And here’s a note for all you Gruden ball washers, people don’t suddenly change and become non racist and non homophobic.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
This is a great day for Raider fans and a chance for this team to be good again in a couple of years. Let’s not forget that the Gruden disaster started by genius Gruden getting rid of Mack and Cooper and wasting too many early draft picks. if Mayock had anything to do with those wasted picks, show him the door too. It’s time for this team to be led by competent picks.
2022 is looking up.
2022 is looking up.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
So does Gus Bradley become HC? He's seemingly the most likely candidate as he has prior experience, and got a team to the AFC championship.
Fantasy wise, I'm a little worried about Waller. He's gruden's ace, and gets plays designed for him.He might be more of a mid tier TE1, than an elite guy. I could see this being a positive for ruggs. Carr/Jacobs probably stay the same.
Fantasy wise, I'm a little worried about Waller. He's gruden's ace, and gets plays designed for him.He might be more of a mid tier TE1, than an elite guy. I could see this being a positive for ruggs. Carr/Jacobs probably stay the same.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Waller is the most talented player on offense. He may not duplicate last years numbers but he should still be a top 3 TE. Who else is Carr targeting?
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
fn raiders, every year we have some bull#### drama. maybe the Raiders needed to move on from Gruden but not going into the 6th game of the season. it might be time to quit being a fan of this franchise after 39 years ( I don’t remember what i liked when i was 6 years old)
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I would think Bradley or Marinelli as they have the HC experience but I don't think Marinelli wants anything more than to be a position coach at this stage. The question would be who steps up to be DC.
The offensive system will not change. Olson will continue it. I don't think there will be any difference to Waller.
I hear ya 41 years... I've about had enough of this ###### organization and its drama.
Unfortunately, most of the blame falls on Mark Davis, and he's still there.
Ruggs, renfrow, and Edwards are all much more involved than a year ago. I could see ruggs in particular getting more work.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Seems like Renfrow is getting about the same amount of targets. Agholor is gone and Ruggs is trying to fill that role. His 3 catches a week are not concerning and he is getting targeted more than Edwards.
Chaka
Footballguy
I would like to see Ruggs consistently get 7-8 targets/game. Good things happen when you throw to this kid.
He impacts defensive game plans every time he steps on the field.
SDJohnny
Footballguy
Been a fan for about the same time period and this doesn't faze me. Not a gruden fan, I'm a Raider fan. Next man up.
Chaka
Footballguy
As a Raider fan I was disappointed they were not in position to hire Staley last year.
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
There are still several good candidates out there. Sounds like the raiders are avoiding the pitfall of moving Bradley up at least.
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Chaka
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
this crap makes sad and happy. it sucks that this is the way that gruden leaves. the timing and situation is awful. it will leave a stain on the organization. but, i've been saying he had to go for years.
so from that standpoint, i'm stoked. i hope mayock gets to stay. i've been preaching that gruden was screwing up these drafts. i guess, now we'll see. i feel bad for the players and the organization. they don't deserve all this crap.
so from that standpoint, i'm stoked. i hope mayock gets to stay. i've been preaching that gruden was screwing up these drafts. i guess, now we'll see. i feel bad for the players and the organization. they don't deserve all this crap.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I think Daboll is worth a look. He was one of a few I was hoping the chargers would hire.
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Chaka
Footballguy
His staying in Buffalo was one of the reasons I ranked Allen as my #1 magic football QB this off-season.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Yea, I forgot that he was Assistant HC so that does make sense plus it keep Bradley working with the D instead of moving that around too. Likely the succession plan was already in place with him moving up as the AHC.
joey
Footballguy
44 years for me, since beating the Vikings in 77. Would love to give them up and just root for my fantasy football players but they keep sucking me back in.
I too hope Mayock sticks around and has a chance to prove himself without the egotist in charge.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
The good:
Everyone's auditioning for their jobs next year - everyone. Should be plenty of motivation.
The ST coach is taking over - that sounds like a good thing if only because it's not a retread failed HC. I'm a fan of the HC coaching the game and the coaches, not being an OC or DC or having big individual duties during a game.
There's still time to salvage 2021. Lots of people would love to rise from Gruden's ashes and accomplish something - careers get made that way.
The bad:
We're clowns for another season.
The better:
We were already clowns, but this gives us the chance to wipe that clean. It was always going to take something like this to get out from under Gruden with that harbinger of a contract clownboy gave him.
I've always like Mayock's talent evaluation and now we'll see if Gruden was an anchor in the draft room or not. This team has a core of talent so if we can shore up a few positions of depth we can compete pretty quickly. This has to be one of the "better" jobs out there - Carr at QB, an owner you know doesn't mettle, and a roster that's not Jacksonville level depleted. Heck we're possible playoff candidates if we can figure out the OL.
Everyone's auditioning for their jobs next year - everyone. Should be plenty of motivation.
The ST coach is taking over - that sounds like a good thing if only because it's not a retread failed HC. I'm a fan of the HC coaching the game and the coaches, not being an OC or DC or having big individual duties during a game.
There's still time to salvage 2021. Lots of people would love to rise from Gruden's ashes and accomplish something - careers get made that way.
The bad:
We're clowns for another season.
The better:
We were already clowns, but this gives us the chance to wipe that clean. It was always going to take something like this to get out from under Gruden with that harbinger of a contract clownboy gave him.
I've always like Mayock's talent evaluation and now we'll see if Gruden was an anchor in the draft room or not. This team has a core of talent so if we can shore up a few positions of depth we can compete pretty quickly. This has to be one of the "better" jobs out there - Carr at QB, an owner you know doesn't mettle, and a roster that's not Jacksonville level depleted. Heck we're possible playoff candidates if we can figure out the OL.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I have been somewhat quiet about this event out of respect for so many great Raiders fans we have collected here over the years. I'm sorry you had to experience this level of embarrassment and I applaud all of you for mostly wanting to move forward quickly and it doesn't sound like a lot of huge Gruden supporters here, can't blame you with what unfolded there in Oakland and Las Vegas the last 3-4 seasons.
I'm not a fan of Mayock just being honest and usually these things are best with a new GM/HC or you are always playing this game of was it the GM or the HC, get rid of one of them and see if it works out, most of the time I would say no it doesn't.
Good luck the rest of the way in 2021, Miami and Las Vegas have to be the most entertaining and fun cities to travel to if your team happens to be visiting there, you definitely don't want the kind of attention Gruden was set to attract in the coming days and weeks, would have been brutal and resigning was likely the right thing for him to do here, maybe it was told to him what he had to do, small points but the larger issue is you all not quitting on '21, I agree with others that think this team has some real talent.
What else could possibly go wrong? And many of you are probably a little happy this marriage has ended although you would have preferred it happen the traditional way and not this way.
Many Cheers from South Florida
I'm not a fan of Mayock just being honest and usually these things are best with a new GM/HC or you are always playing this game of was it the GM or the HC, get rid of one of them and see if it works out, most of the time I would say no it doesn't.
Good luck the rest of the way in 2021, Miami and Las Vegas have to be the most entertaining and fun cities to travel to if your team happens to be visiting there, you definitely don't want the kind of attention Gruden was set to attract in the coming days and weeks, would have been brutal and resigning was likely the right thing for him to do here, maybe it was told to him what he had to do, small points but the larger issue is you all not quitting on '21, I agree with others that think this team has some real talent.
What else could possibly go wrong? And many of you are probably a little happy this marriage has ended although you would have preferred it happen the traditional way and not this way.
Many Cheers from South Florida
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Chaka
Footballguy
Bisacchia feels like a retread imo, he was part of Gruden's TB staff ('02-'08) but I don't fault him or the team for that.
Gruden filled his staff with yes men and potential fall guys.
I don't follow closely enough probably but where is the young, innovative coaching talent Gruden has developed that went on to become head coaches?
What does Gruden's coaching tree look like?
For you folks that follow closely, how do you expect the team to react?
What's the vibe for Basaccia? I don't know that much about him.
What's the vibe for Basaccia? I don't know that much about him.
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