At this point I doubt it matters.Ruggs apparently has a non-life threatening but serious hip injury.
He asked to be cut due to no playing time with us. Getting cut from the Donkeys PS doesn't mean much to me.no. dude has been cut twice this year. can't even make a roster.
I am fine with a one year rental for a 6th as long as his 40 is still quick.I like this more than Brown.
no playing time? he didn't even make the 53 man roster.He asked to be cut due to no playing time with us. Getting cut from the Donkeys PS doesn't mean much to me.
Exactly. From a football only perspective this is a big hit. His speed created a lot of space underneath for Waller, Edwards, Renfrow et al.For the season... this worries me. Aside from Carr, Ruggs is the most important player to this offense IMO. Waller is the better player but Ruggs speed stresses the opposing defenses on a way that Waller can not. It stretches and opens the field up. Waller goes out Moreau can come in and play well. This will be a significant downgrade for regardless of who takes his spot.
He was asked to be cut. Also asked to be cut from Denver.no playing time? he didn't even make the 53 man roster.
dude asks to be cut from two teams, because he's not good enough (according to the teams) to be on field. and you want him on the team?He was asked to be cut. Also asked to be cut from Denver.
I used to think they were a tabloid rag based on their delivery - and I still think they're kind of scummy bottom feeders who contribute to the downfall of society, but yeah, they're usually really good at vetting stories they present.tmz with more pics, immediately after the accident. toyota still engulfed in flames. jeez
@Joe Bryant remember when i said tmz was crazy good. and if they had it, it was reliable and true. this is an example.
He's fast and he knows the playbook. It's not like we're choosing between a lot of great options here. And he doesn't cost any draft picks.dude asks to be cut from two teams, because he's not good enough (according to the teams) to be on field. and you want him on the team?
and how does one, not get playing time on the PS?
hell, the raiders thought so much of him, they would rather pay him, to not be on the team, than have him stand on the sideline.
I question if he has lost a step tooCompletely agree that this is going to be a huge on-field hit too. Ruggs was just starting to get the credit he deserved for being a major weapon out there. Cannot replace his combo of speed and ball skills. Desean Jackson is the closest facsimile available, but he's running on fumes and unlikely to last long physically if thrust out there the way Ruggs was all season.
valid point. i wonder how much the playbook has changed/stayed the same since emailgate. not much, i'd imagine.He's fast and he knows the playbook. It's not like we're choosing between a lot of great options here. And he doesn't cost any draft picks.
I wonder how close Tyrell Williams is to a return? Could be a cheap trade target from a nothing to gain but picks DET team.Completely agree that this is going to be a huge on-field hit too. Ruggs was just starting to get the credit he deserved for being a major weapon out there. Cannot replace his combo of speed and ball skills. Desean Jackson is the closest facsimile available, but he's running on fumes and unlikely to last long physically if thrust out there the way Ruggs was all season.
If there is anyone to judge whether he has or doesn't have anything valuable to add it is our offensive staff with the time spent. I didn't see enough to day either way. He spent the off season learning the system so if he is physically capable should be a sign and play. Pretty much anyone else would be limited as they learn. DeSean has significant questions over his age. Is he really that fast anymore? With your logic if he was so good, the Rams, if all teams, would not be interested in moving him. The expectation is that they will release him if they don't trade him.dude asks to be cut from two teams, because he's not good enough (according to the teams) to be on field. and you want him on the team?
and how does one, not get playing time on the PS?
hell, the raiders thought so much of him, they would rather pay him, to not be on the team, than have him stand on the sideline.
me too. i've thought this all season. i thought zay might outperform ruggs before the season started.I've been thinking for a while now that Zay Jones was an injury to Ruggs or Edwards away from making a major splash this season. He doesn't have Ruggs' speed (few do), but Zay isn't slow; and I predict Zay will do an admirable job trying to fill the Ruggs role. I'd rather see him given the shot than some castoff from another team at this stage of the season.
I used to think they were a tabloid rag based on their delivery - and I still think they're kind of scummy bottom feeders who contribute to the downfall of society, but yeah, they're usually really good at vetting stories they present.
ETA: just saw the pics, and that's just nightmare fuel.
Scroll up for the discussion on both.Isn't John Brown a free agent or could Deshawn Jackson help them stretch the field?
my logic? i questioned if the raiders should send a 6th to the rams for him. i applied no logic regarding djax. the raiders need a wr. he's available. that's the extent of my logic. and after to day, he'll probably be a FA. so no draft pick wasted.If there is anyone to judge whether he has or doesn't have anything valuable to add it is our offensive staff with the time spent. I didn't see enough to day either way. He spent the off season learning the system so if he is physically capable should be a sign and play. Pretty much anyone else would be limited as they learn. DeSean has significant questions over his age. Is he really that fast anymore? With your logic if he was so good, the Rams, if all teams, would not be interested in moving him. The expectation is that they will release him if they don't trade him.
The logic of being cut (even thougj it was him asking) means that you don't consider him.my logic? i questioned if the raiders should send a 6th to the rams for him. i applied no logic regarding djax. the raiders need a wr. he's available. that's the extent of my logic. and after to day, he'll probably be a FA. so no draft pick wasted.
ah..i guess i hold more weight with djax actually making an NFL roster. as opposed to being cut from 2 teams. and after today, if released, djax will also not cost draft picks.The logic of being cut (even thougj it was him asking) means that you don't consider him.
I am not saying Brown is the answer. I am saying it makes sense. He knows the offense. He has speed. He is available for no draft picks. And we had a real good look at him for the whe off season.
What is Turner's 40?ah..i guess i hold more weight with djax actually making an NFL roster. as opposed to being cut from 2 teams. and after today, if released, djax will also not cost draft picks.
i'd rather see dj turner get the shot. and get renfrow out of returning any kicks. i hate that he does that.
you're not going to get a player to match rugg's speed. they need a wr THIS sunday. he flashed some promise in the preseason. someone off the PS is getting called up.What is Turner's 40?
and gave up an OL. odd trade.Chefs made a trade for Dan Brown with the Jets
Yea, you aren't going to get Rugg's speed... that is NFL best type speed, top 3 easily.you're not going to get a player to match rugg's speed. they need a wr THIS sunday. he flashed some promise in the preseason. someone off the PS is getting called up.
but since you asked, 4.55ish
I think this is the best bet right now. The organization was just gut-punched again. They didn't trade for anyone probably not to disrupt the locker room chemistry. Then this happens, I'm sick to my stomach, I can only imagine everyone on the team, from Davis to the players is just shell-shocked right now. Honestly, how do they even practice and stay focused when a life was just lost and a team member and brother's life is now in turmoil.Yea, you aren't going to get Rugg's speed... that is NFL best type speed, top 3 easily.
But if we are not looking for some speed to add in then plug Zay in and go.
If Bisaccia keeps this train on track when by all rights it could/should jump... take the intern title and throw it in the trash and give him a nice raise. The dude has a job in front of him.Not sure when the acceptable time is to move the conversation from tragedy to football is. I guess, both conversations can exist in the same space. In this case, the conversations are tied together as one triggers the other.
It's Tuesday early evening, and the Raiders haven't made a corresponding move to bring in a WR. I think because of the covid rules, it would be unlikely that any WR added from this point of the week would be available for Sunday.
The Raiders are carrying 3 WRs on their PS:
Dillion Stoner (rookie)
DJ Turner (rookie)
Javon Wims (4th year)
Simply put, as already stated, there isn't a 1:1 replacement for Ruggs on the field. So their will need to be adjustments made:
I think we will see an increase in Zay Jones usage. Both in routes run and targets. Carr trusts him and that is clearly important. I imagine Moreau will have increased usage as well, whether in replacement of Waller (I'm unclear on his status), or inline with Waller in more 2 TE sets.
Coach B and the Raiders have put up with a lot of unique challenges in a very short period of time. It's one thing for fans to be upset with the events that led to both of these scenarios, but the players and coaches on the team have been around Gruden and Ruggs for an extend period of time day in and day out. I can only imagine the emotions they are facing in this moment as they deal with their friend and teammate being the cause of such a terrible event.
I wonder what the deal is with him. Gotta be something wrong.Jaylon Smith released
I don't think this means any particular player will benefit. Carr is one of those few QB's that spread the ball to who is open. Just like when Waller was out last game. Obviously Moreau had a bump up but other than there was no specific "this guy" will see more targets. I would say Jones gets the biggest move up as he will see a significant increase in snaps. Other than that, a small bump to everyone else. For the short term, Zay is the only player to think about making a move on or against with this news.Sad to hear, and I don't want to get into anything more than the FF part of this. What about Edwards? He's out there but carr never seems to find him until late in games. Does he get more targets? Or will it all funnel to the same position that Ruggs held?
Rams have released Desean Jackson.
Absolutely.Kick the tires