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Poole was put in an impossible position. Draymond got up in his grill — practically grinding him — and none of his veteran teammates intervened. Neither did the coaches. What’s Poole supposed to do? Stand there and let Draymond bully him? Poole was absolutely within his rights to shove Draymond.
Kerr literally got punched in the face by a teammate before. So he has a lot of credibility.
Frankly—I don’t care about your half hearted apology. If you didn’t call me an idiot for what my opinion on Draymond’s punishment should be—what does that mean? You called me an idiot for using a word that you didn’t happen to like? That’s your excuse for being rude to somebody? You can keep your apology to yourself and I don’t care if you and your old school tribal followers choose to ignore me. This place is about discussion—it’s not about being a d*** to people just because you don’t like what they have to say—especially when what they say is said in a civil and polite manner.
So you can insult people by calling them “woke” but can’t take it when you get push back. Seems typical.
doubtful.
would you give up the '27 and '29 picks to offload Westbrook and get back Turner and Hield?
This is going to sound crazy, but from what I've seen so far in pre-season, I would not. Westbrook has looked more like good Westrbrook from ages ago than recent vintage Westbrook. There have been some drives to nowhere, and passes to no-one, but not nearly as many as last year, and he looks like he's actually trying. Also I think Ham is doing a better job of grouping him with suitable complementary players when he's in than Vogel did.
Agreed. I also think the longer they wait to make a deal, the less they’ll have to give up for the Utah or Indiana guys as they get more itchy to get the tanks moving faster.
I don't think it's crazy at all, though I would probably be skeptical of Westbrook being helpful. If he could accept a 6th man role, he could be really useful, but it doesn't sound like he will. I agree that it is probably not worth giving up both of those picks now.
That doesn't make it a sucker punch. He was right in front of him. That doesn't make it justified -- but it wasn't a sucker punch.
There's no way Poole should have been expecting to get hit there. Green is his teammate. Maybe they're jawing, maybe Green bodies up, whatever. Still not enough that he should have been expecting a punch IMO. That stuff probably happens 100 times in practice for every time someone escalates it like that.
I'm just hoping for not a complete negative with Westbrook - break even. Last year he was horrific. I know people who had just a passing "interest" in the Lakers had a sense of how bad, but it was truly a thing to behold for those of us who got to see it game in, game out.
I got to watch KG practice with the Timberwolves from the sidelines at SJU for at least 3 of my 4 years there. His intensity was off the charts. He also basically ran the practices, got on the young guys, etc. Worked harder than anybody else and, in contrast to some of the other players, still signed autographs before and after practice. It doesn't shock me that he punched a guy,* but KG is the greatest practice player I've ever seen in any sport. You would have thought their half court 3 on 3 drills were NBA Finals game 7. So cool.
That form is just so awful. I don't know if it is ego or what with some of these bad shooters in the NBA, but there is no reason for his motion to look like that.
I’m wondering about the severities of the infractions of past Warriors team suspensions. I noticed Green was suspended one game for arguing with Durant. I’m sure there were other suspensions for things not as bad.
fortunately the person who leaked the video got 25 to life in maximum security prison.
The reality is this happens more than anybody knows. If they start suspending players for it, then it sets a precedence for it to happen anytime there's a fight within a team. Everything is filmed these days so there would be worries of it always leaking and guys being suspended. Giving a fine to a millionaire at least addresses it for PR sake, but ultimately is nothing to these players. Like a $25 parking ticket to us.
There have been numerous reports that yes, **** happens all the time at practice, but very very rarely does it get this out of control where someone really clocks someone in the face. So I don't think the "it happens all the time" defense truly works in this instance
Poole is a young star.
The onus isn't fully on him.at putting the onus on Poole to be better in that situation. Good grief.
I agree with you about the leak of the video being bad. With that said—I can’t get there when it comes to your opinion on Poole’s role in this. If he just walks away—he loses the respect of his teammates and Draymond will think he can just bully him all of the time. While I agree that punches being thrown in practice are not unicorn situations—it probably happens in every professional locker room every year or two—I’d say that 95% or more of basketball fights are basically a shoving match where after the second shove gets thrown—other players step in and separate the involved parties. My guess is that when Poole threw that shove—he maybe thought that Draymond would shove him back—not throw a haymaker. With all of that said—I’m surprised that there was no suspension involved especially with the video being leaked. I would have guessed a 3-5 game suspension without the video being leaked, and a 10-15 game suspension with the video being leaked. My guess is that Poole is being the bigger person behind the scenes as I don’t think that draymond not being suspended could have happened without Poole‘s input. That’s just pure speculation on my end though.
Umm... hell no. As a former college player and recent rec-center punchee, no way would I ever back down out of fear of getting hit.
And that stupid wife of his should probably keep her big mouth shut if she knows what's good for her as well. Amirite?!?The onus isn't fully on him.
You're telling me you've never been in a situation where you could opt into or out of a fight, whether physical or verbal? Sure, someone else is instigating. But you can be the bigger person. He wasn't.
Yeah I mean i wouldn't either. But I'd also be expecting it to be a fight. If I didn;t want it to be, I recognize that there are actions I could take to avoid it. That doesn't make the person throwing the punch right.
Serious question, what exactly could Poole have done to avoid it? Green walked to him, got chest to chest and face to face. Should he have raised his hand and called the coach over and said "Draymond is picking on me?" or just run away. He has zero choice really. Green was obviously looking for a fight and wasn't going to stop if Poole said "my bad" or whatever.
Bullies are gonna bully until somebody badder hits them back. If Dray ****s around too long he’ll get his but he knew what he was doing hitting the smaller guy. He’s a classic coward.
I know you say it's a serious question, but really? In the same sentence you state some options and then claim they aren't options.
You think those were real options?
just like kg was take that to the bank hold me back bro hans
