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Puppies
Footballguy
I've moved on again without Chubb!!
Now I have Herbert on a bye so I get to ride Kenny Pickett for week 5........oh wait
PIckett is not necessarily out this week, according to Tomlin
Kenny Pickett injury update: Mike Tomlin says Steelers QB has bone bruise in knee, should practice Wednesday
How Pickett practices will likely determine his Week 5 status vs. Baltimore
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Steeler
Footballguy
Still alive, but sweating the Turk before the week even starts:
J. Herbert, K. Allen, J. Palmer, Chargers D on bye
J. Herbert, J. Cook, K. Allen, E. Engram have counted every week for me
Herbert and Allen being on both lists is a little unnerving, TBH
Carr is my only QB
D. Johnson is still hurt
Gonna need some luck this week
J. Herbert, K. Allen, J. Palmer, Chargers D on bye
J. Herbert, J. Cook, K. Allen, E. Engram have counted every week for me
Herbert and Allen being on both lists is a little unnerving, TBH
Carr is my only QB
D. Johnson is still hurt
Gonna need some luck this week
We currently have 28 contest K's who have jobs (nobody should have chosen Fry, Shudak, Gould, Badgley, York, or Vizcaino)
- The 28 kickers are averaging 7.95 points per game
- The 32 defenses are averaging 6.38 points per game
- Defenses on average score about 75% of kickers, so these numbers are pretty consistent with numbers from year's past
- The 28 kickers are averaging 7.95 points per game
- The 32 defenses are averaging 6.38 points per game
- Defenses on average score about 75% of kickers, so these numbers are pretty consistent with numbers from year's past
Tha Guru
Footballguy
So you're saying there's a chanceI've moved on again without Chubb!!
Now I have Herbert on a bye so I get to ride Kenny Pickett for week 5........oh wait
PIckett is not necessarily out this week, according to Tomlin
Kenny Pickett injury update: Mike Tomlin says Steelers QB has bone bruise in knee, should practice Wednesday
How Pickett practices will likely determine his Week 5 status vs. Baltimore
Yep. High side 7 points, low side 0. Steelers just aren't good this season, yet.So you're saying there's a chanceI've moved on again without Chubb!!
Now I have Herbert on a bye so I get to ride Kenny Pickett for week 5........oh wait
PIckett is not necessarily out this week, according to Tomlin
Kenny Pickett injury update: Mike Tomlin says Steelers QB has bone bruise in knee, should practice Wednesday
How Pickett practices will likely determine his Week 5 status vs. Baltimore
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
In the land of micro-analysis,
my defenses ($4, $3) have averaged ~8.5
my kickers ($5,$4,$3) have averaged ~17
so...defenses scoring ~50% of kickers...but I've been blessed with exceptional kicker scoring (in the short term, obviously).
Elliott ($5) has counted 3 of 4 weeks. Hopkins ($3) has contributed once. $4 is Jets PK Zuerlein who has not contributed at all because of the loss of Aaron Rodgers
There may be something to be said for spending a couple bucks extra for PK1....but it depends on your confidence level in finding guys like Tank Dell.
Puppies
Footballguy
I'm not sure I understand your comment (high side 7; low side 0) . What are you refering to?Yep. High side 7 points, low side 0. Steelers just aren't good this season, yet.So you're saying there's a chanceI've moved on again without Chubb!!
Now I have Herbert on a bye so I get to ride Kenny Pickett for week 5........oh wait
PIckett is not necessarily out this week, according to Tomlin
Kenny Pickett injury update: Mike Tomlin says Steelers QB has bone bruise in knee, should practice Wednesday
How Pickett practices will likely determine his Week 5 status vs. Baltimore
Kenny PIckett is averaging 15.49 through 4 games.
Steelers Defense is averaging 10.25 through 4 games.
I'm not disputing the fact that both Pickett and the Steelers have problems, though.
9 contest kickers were on at least 1K rosters, and here is where they currently stand:
$3 - Hopkins - 41.0 pts
$4 - McManus - 40.6 pts
$4 - Dicker & Sanders - 32.6 pts
$6 - Koo - 30.9 pts
$8 - Tucker - 28.3 pts
$4 - Zuerlein - 21.6 pts
$3 - Badgley - anyone who rostered him is insane!
Zuerlein missed week 2, so really, on a per game basis, Tucker is the lowest scoring kicker of the bunch. The only thing that can be said about spending megabucks on an expensive kicker is that it's a bad decision. Of the 28 kickers that are currently kicking, you can make 146 different duos for the same price (or cheaper) than Tucker:
$3 + $3 = 10 combos
$3 + $4 = 60 combos
$3 + $5 = 10 combos
$4 + $4 = 66 combos
I am betting that Tucker gets outscored by at least 130/146 of them (right around 90%).
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Puppies
Footballguy
Maybe good news for those who were counting on Kenny Pickett as a bye week fill-in this week....
It's looking like Kenny Pickett is likely to play on Sunday.
It's looking like Kenny Pickett is likely to play on Sunday.
9I'm not sure I understand your comment (high side 7; low side 0) . What are you refering to?Yep. High side 7 points, low side 0. Steelers just aren't good this season, yet.So you're saying there's a chanceI've moved on again without Chubb!!
Now I have Herbert on a bye so I get to ride Kenny Pickett for week 5........oh wait
PIckett is not necessarily out this week, according to Tomlin
Kenny Pickett injury update: Mike Tomlin says Steelers QB has bone bruise in knee, should practice Wednesday
How Pickett practices will likely determine his Week 5 status vs. Baltimore
Kenny PIckett is averaging 15.49 through 4 games.
Steelers Defense is averaging 10.25 through 4 games.
I'm not disputing the fact that both Pickett and the Steelers have problems, though.
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Other QB scores vs Ravens this season. Add in an injured QB trying to start...I don't see a good chance at points with their lackluster offense.
Stray Doug
Footballguy
I've got 3 Ks, but 2 of them (Carlson and Santos) are the only players who have yet to count towards a weekly score for me this season... it's been all Fairbairn instead. Kamara and Michael Wilson finally got on the board for me in week 4 leaving just those 2 Ks yet to count.
My 2 Ds have scored 24 vs. Fairbairn's 47.1, so about 50%.
I'm taking the goose egg at QB this week (only rostered Herbert) but feeling pretty decent about my chances having survived a couple of 0s at RB weeks 2 and 3 with Ekeler out and Kamara suspended. If I can make it through to 6 I'll be feeling pretty good with the QB bye behind me and (hopefully) a healthy Ekeler.
My 2 Ds have scored 24 vs. Fairbairn's 47.1, so about 50%.
I'm taking the goose egg at QB this week (only rostered Herbert) but feeling pretty decent about my chances having survived a couple of 0s at RB weeks 2 and 3 with Ekeler out and Kamara suspended. If I can make it through to 6 I'll be feeling pretty good with the QB bye behind me and (hopefully) a healthy Ekeler.
If you can get 14.33 points combined from your K & D position, that would be average. Every K & D have crappy weeks, so you just have to hope you get a decent score from someone. I don't know what you consider a big week popping is, but so far after 4 games, K's have reached 15 points eleven times, and D's have reached 15 points nine times.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
What is the median for Defenses vs Kickers? I would hazard a guess that it is lower for kickers which would make outliers on the plus side a little more impactful
-QG
Dang, I took a look at your team, and yea, if you make it past week 5, that's a heck of a roster you've made. If you are going to make that calculated risk of having your only QB and 1 of your 3 RBs on bye the same week, definitely best to make it during the earliest bye week.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
I dont disagree with the fundamental idea that you shouldn't buy kickers like momentum stocks (because the premiums are not justified)...all I'm saying is that it isn't automatically the best decision to comply with the rule that I must never roster a $4 or $5 kicker...the small difference only has a big opportunity cost if you KNOW how to deploy those dollars elsewhere at the draft deadline.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Same. My kickers and defenses have treated me well, avg 23.8 combined points/week for a $22 investment.Got me feeling good about the 19.425 average I am getting so far from K+D
-QG
PK Wil Lutz - $4
PK Brett Maher - $3 ... has done all the heavy lifting.
PK Anders Carlson - $3
TD Cleveland Browns - $5
TD Minnesota Vikings - $4
TD Detroit Lions - $3
I'm fine with rostering a $4 or $5 kicker this year. The only thing I am not fine with is rostering 1 kicker for the price of 2. To me that meant all $6, $7, and $8 kickers were off limits. I can see two scenarios where rostering a 1 for the price of 2 kicker could be justified:
1) You are happy with your 29-team roster and have 1 roster spot left for a kicker, so you only roster 1 kicker
2) There are literally no safe cheap kickers to choose from. An example would be if they offered Elliott Fry, Caleb Shudak, Robbie Gould, Michael Badgley, Cade York, and Tristan Vizcaino all for $2 each, I still would not have chosen any of them.
nightmare
Footballguy
I went bargain basement on K's, D's and TE's. K Fairbairn, the Lions, and the Laporta Ferguson combo has been good.
I can't believe FBG's priced Ferguson at $6. C Santos, M Badgley, and the Raiders, not so much.
I did my entry a while back and had forgotten about Badgley. The Titans D might come around.
I always roster 3 QBs, Ks, Ds, and TEs. J love and S Howell, yeah good. K Pickett looks lost.
I can't believe FBG's priced Ferguson at $6. C Santos, M Badgley, and the Raiders, not so much.
I did my entry a while back and had forgotten about Badgley. The Titans D might come around.
I always roster 3 QBs, Ks, Ds, and TEs. J love and S Howell, yeah good. K Pickett looks lost.
I also went with a trio of Santos, Hopkins, and Carlson. Nice to see 18.6 from a kicker, and very nice to see 32.3 from my only active QB. I guess I have to settle for 6 from Dotson.
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FairWarning
Footballguy
122.3 here, nice.
I only had two players going last night, Dotson and Santos. I am happy to get the 18.6 points secured for my kicker position. And getting six points is not terrible as Dotson is only one of many WRs and six points is still better than a goose egg.
joey
Footballguy
Meh.
jdkapow
Footballguy
Same, my only active players last night were Howell and Santos (I still have several active QBs and Ks but likely won't need them). It's not Fields and Moore, but I'm quite pleased.
Last year, BUF was the most expensive D ($7) and the 4th most common with 1681 owners. They finished D13 with 93 points. There were 84 different combos you could have purchased for the same $7 (12 for $3 each x 7 for $4 each). Do you know how many of the 84 combos outscored BUF?
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
64?
83 out of 84 combos outscored BUF. The only combo they beat was LV/CHI, who finished D30 & D32. BUF beat them by a whopping 2 points through the first 14 weeks, then outscored 8 to 18 in the 3-week finals. They were outscored by all 84 combos in the finals. Did I mention BUF cost $7 and was more common than any $3 team?
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
It will interesting to see if Taylor fares better than Moss with Cam Newton Junior at quarterback. Moss was lights out when AR was missing but disappeared with AR started.
Born to Run
Footballguy
My Barkley/Ekeler RB combo did not work out as planned. Out by a single point. Just wait until next year!
Ownership numbers for the early game
QB
606 - Trevor Lawrence
267 - Josh Allen
RB
1388 - James Cook
988 - Tank Bigsby
363 - Travis Etienne
56 - Nyheim Hines (OUT)
48 - Damien Harris
WR
1432 - Calvin Ridley
588 - Gabe Davis
231 - Stefon Diggs
175 - Christian Kirk
105 - Zay Jones
88 - Khalil Shakir
TE
1214 - Dalton Kincaid
402 - Evan Engram
118 - Dawson Knox
K
765 - Brandon McManus
151 - Tyler Bass
D
745 - JAC
120 - BUF
I have exactly nobody in this game, so I want a snoozefest. Oh wait, I have James Cook. Run, James, Run!
QB
606 - Trevor Lawrence
267 - Josh Allen
RB
1388 - James Cook
988 - Tank Bigsby
363 - Travis Etienne
56 - Nyheim Hines (OUT)
48 - Damien Harris
WR
1432 - Calvin Ridley
588 - Gabe Davis
231 - Stefon Diggs
175 - Christian Kirk
105 - Zay Jones
88 - Khalil Shakir
TE
1214 - Dalton Kincaid
402 - Evan Engram
118 - Dawson Knox
K
765 - Brandon McManus
151 - Tyler Bass
D
745 - JAC
120 - BUF
I have exactly nobody in this game, so I want a snoozefest. Oh wait, I have James Cook. Run, James, Run!
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
21 Kupp teams out there!
Did they submit their roster last year?
stubby
Footballguy
Another stinker from Dotson, plus No ARSB or Herbert today means I’m relying on a core of Bijan, Pollard, Zay, Sky, Waller and an ugly Pickett-Pickens-Warren triple stack against Baltimore … not likely to finish above the cut unless I get a DJ Moore-like performance from someone 
Good luck to all!
Good luck to all!
There are no teams with Bijan, Pollard, Zay, Skyy, and Waller, alive or dead.Another stinker from Dotson, plus No ARSB or Herbert today means I’m relying on a core of Bijan, Pollard, Zay, Sky, Waller and an ugly Pickett-Pickens-Warren triple stack against Baltimore … not likely to finish above the cut unless I get a DJ Moore-like performance from someone
Good luck to all!
stubby
Footballguy
There are no teams with Bijan, Pollard, Zay, Skyy, and Waller, alive or dead.Another stinker from Dotson, plus No ARSB or Herbert today means I’m relying on a core of Bijan, Pollard, Zay, Sky, Waller and an ugly Pickett-Pickens-Warren triple stack against Baltimore … not likely to finish above the cut unless I get a DJ Moore-like performance from someone
Good luck to all!
