ZADO
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Seconds after it spilt the uprights, an NFL coach messaged me, “What the F--k is he thinking kicking the field goa(l)!!!! Is somebody hurt? They aren’t saying that on TV? What the f--k.”
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
if you go to sofi, i'll join you
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
chandler jones posted a picture of a renfrow jersey and said "protect him or I talk"
not sure what's really going on, but I am on his side now
not sure what's really going on, but I am on his side now
Even Chandler wants Hunter to get the ball. One of the great mysteries of the McDaniels era. He can make Welker and Edelman borderline HOFers but Renfrow is invisible. More evidence that good OCs don’t always make good HCs.chandler jones posted a picture of a renfrow jersey and said "protect him or I talk"
not sure what's really going on, but I am on his side now
Enderdog
Footballguy
Looking at his twitter page now. It's a train wreck today. He's made some threats as well in the past few hours.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
What a series of tweets from jones. i wonder when the raiders can legally get out of his deal. Because he’s never playing for them again. Maybe never again. Hope he gets the obvious help he needs.
Balco
Footballguy
Yeah one live stream he implicated McDaniels in Aaron Hernandez’ death and started crying uncontrollably.
This is not going to have a good ending if loved ones don’t intervene (understanding it’s not easy when someone suffering from a mental health crisis feels they do not need help)
Enderdog
Footballguy
I hope Mark Davis doesn't try tattooing triangles on my neck.
♛Chandler Jones
Love you @CrosbyMaxx , whatever you had to do that was wrong to me, I forgive you.. but not my family.. if you did some ****ed up s*** it’s war.. but I told you since day one.. I came to Vegas to free you!
♛Chandler Jones
Umm yes! Both got little d**** tho, just got mind control over powerful men via drugs.. they made @CrosbyMaxx put the triangles on his neck and back.. as a threat.. I could cry I’m so serious!
eta: Had so put some ***s in.
♛Chandler Jones
Love you @CrosbyMaxx , whatever you had to do that was wrong to me, I forgive you.. but not my family.. if you did some ****ed up s*** it’s war.. but I told you since day one.. I came to Vegas to free you!
♛Chandler Jones
Umm yes! Both got little d**** tho, just got mind control over powerful men via drugs.. they made @CrosbyMaxx put the triangles on his neck and back.. as a threat.. I could cry I’m so serious!
eta: Had so put some ***s in.
Just gets worse by the day. Where’s his family? Doesn’t he have trusted friends or an agent to intervene and get him some help?
ZADO
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
I'm sure he does. But if you've ever dealt with someone dealing with a mental health crisis, it's not as easy as just showing up. It's a really complicated process to get a person in his state of mind to understand the situation and act upon it.
His perception is reality, as is all of ours. Imagine someone coming up to you trying to convince you that the sun is blue. That's where he seems to be.
You’re right. I would hope he has some kind of support system doing all they can. I just feel bad for him.
massraider
Footballguy
He's a grown man with plenty of money not harming anyone. Saying a bunch of dumb stuff online, and seeing conspiracy everywhere is not illegal, and if it was, there would be very little traffic on our streets. I am just saying that the way he is behaving, he still has freedom.
I have no idea what the issue is, but I will take a random guess at ketamine. i know it's assumed this is a mental episode he is having, but I have an acquaintance who went of the deep end with K, and it reminds me of this. Random conflicts created out of nowhere, going back and forth between paranoia and cheery. This might just be drugs
ZADO
Footballguy
Tyree Wilson comes in with a grade of 36.2 after three games this season, which is the lowest grade of any first round rookie according to PFF.
LawFitz
Footballguy
And to insult the injury...
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Wingnut
Footballguy
Las Vegas Raiders Chandler Jones says Patriots Aaron Hernandez didn’t kill himself in jail and then breaks down during live stream
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brun
Footballguy
Really sad to see anyone like this. Hope he gets the help he needs.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
I have to wonder if Chandler’s erratic behavior might be due to brain damage due to football.
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
jimmy meatball was back at practice, right?
I imagine O dog will still be inactive on gameday
I imagine O dog will still be inactive on gameday
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
Chandler sounds like he's finding meaning in symbols and the like. This is very dangerous. If he's a threat to himself or those around him, he can be taken in for medical mental health reasons. That's generally the standard, but I have no idea what Las Vegas or Nevada law is.
I do know that there was a two-pronged test that was used around where I was from and it is this: Is he at risk to harm himself? Is he at risk to harm others?
I do not know what evidence is required to get him to the level of "at risk."
If he keeps up with the targeted Tweets and the like, it could be surmised that he's a threat to those he targets and intervention might be necessary.
What a horrible thing for he and his family to be going through. I wish him the best and hope he gets the help he desperately needs.
Oh, don't know if any of you guys saw this, but this is generally how it goes. They probably did a risk assessment.
www.espn.com
I do know that there was a two-pronged test that was used around where I was from and it is this: Is he at risk to harm himself? Is he at risk to harm others?
I do not know what evidence is required to get him to the level of "at risk."
If he keeps up with the targeted Tweets and the like, it could be surmised that he's a threat to those he targets and intervention might be necessary.
What a horrible thing for he and his family to be going through. I wish him the best and hope he gets the help he desperately needs.
Oh, don't know if any of you guys saw this, but this is generally how it goes. They probably did a risk assessment.
Raiders' Jones: I was hospitalized against my will
Raiders defensive end Chandler Jones wrote in a social media post Monday night that he was taken to a hospital "against my will" by the Las Vegas Fire Department last week.
Bossman
Footballguy
This dude is or has lost his marbles. Did you see his livestream?
They should have never made THC legal.
Bossman
Footballguy
ZADO
Footballguy
𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: #Raiders DE Chandler Jones has been arrested in Las Vegas, via
@TMZ
The 33-year-old All-Pro was booked into Clark County Detention Center in Nevada around midnight - where Jones still remains behind bars.The exact details surrounding the arrest are currently unclear, but our sources tell TMZ that Chandler violated a protective order, so cops responded and arrested him.
@TMZ
The 33-year-old All-Pro was booked into Clark County Detention Center in Nevada around midnight - where Jones still remains behind bars.The exact details surrounding the arrest are currently unclear, but our sources tell TMZ that Chandler violated a protective order, so cops responded and arrested him.
SDJohnny
Footballguy
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Ooof
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
chandler was arrested for stealing items from outside his ex-girlfriend's house. then burning them in his own backyard while recording and sending the video to her.
hope dude gets help and gets better.
brobible.com
what can the team do with jones contract gone?
hope dude gets help and gets better.
Raiders DE Chandler Jones Arrested In Las Vegas
Update: A latest report on Chandler Jones arrest says that police arrested him after he stole items from outside of his ex-girlfriend's house. Jones then
brobible.com
what can the team do with jones contract gone?
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
taking a chance on drafting a guy with a troubled past was not okay, but signing a veteran in decline with a troubled past was somehow all good
Watching USC dismantle Colorado right now and Williams definitely looks like a #1 overall draft pick. But they have a kid on the Dline named Bear Alexander that wrecking shop on the Colorado Oline. I know Colorado is over-hyped and the Oline is not very good, Bear looks like Jalen Carter last season, just dominating.
If he’s got a clean driving record, I hope he’s on the Raiders radar next year. Yes, I’m already in NFL Draft mode.
If he’s got a clean driving record, I hope he’s on the Raiders radar next year. Yes, I’m already in NFL Draft mode.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
What if they beat the dolts?
They’re going to need to score more than 20 pts. I just don’t see it. I hope I’m wrong. I would like to finally see them establish themselves on the line of scrimmage and start running the ball. That would be a start in the right direction.
Bears fan here. So our seasons are over. What can you do? The silver lining is Caleb Williams appears to be one of the best prospects in years.
Plenty of money betting against our favorite teams. I don't care how chalky the lines are. The Bears lost 13 games in a row. That's a profit center.
Plenty of money betting against our favorite teams. I don't care how chalky the lines are. The Bears lost 13 games in a row. That's a profit center.
ICON211
Footballguy
Raiders releasing Chandler Jones.
www.espn.com
Raiders release DE Jones after turbulent week
The Raiders have released defensive end Chandler Jones. Jones, who was arrested in Las Vegas on Friday, had been placed on the non-football illness list last week.
joey
Footballguy
I’m definitely sad for him and his fragile mental state, but…Raiders releasing Chandler Jones.
Raiders release DE Jones after turbulent week
The Raiders have released defensive end Chandler Jones. Jones, who was arrested in Las Vegas on Friday, had been placed on the non-football illness list last week.
money wise, what does this mean for the Raiders releasing him? We eat the whole remainder of his contract? Or what?
ICON211
Footballguy
I'm not sure, but from the article:I’m definitely sad for him and his fragile mental state, but…Raiders releasing Chandler Jones.
Raiders release DE Jones after turbulent week
The Raiders have released defensive end Chandler Jones. Jones, who was arrested in Las Vegas on Friday, had been placed on the non-football illness list last week.
money wise, what does this mean for the Raiders releasing him? We eat the whole remainder of his contract? Or what?
Jones was in the second season of a three-year, $51 million contract he signed last year. As a result of his release, the Raiders are subject to approximately $12 million in dead money against the salary cap both in 2023 and 2024, as the team restructured Jones' deal in March to create additional cap space.
It is unclear whether the Raiders will attempt to recoup any of the previously paid money to Jones that would be permissible as a result of him being placed on the NFI list.
joey
Footballguy
Thanks. What a horrendous deal. Bad team management strikes again. :(I'm not sure, but from the article:I’m definitely sad for him and his fragile mental state, but…Raiders releasing Chandler Jones.
Raiders release DE Jones after turbulent week
The Raiders have released defensive end Chandler Jones. Jones, who was arrested in Las Vegas on Friday, had been placed on the non-football illness list last week.
money wise, what does this mean for the Raiders releasing him? We eat the whole remainder of his contract? Or what?
Jones was in the second season of a three-year, $51 million contract he signed last year. As a result of his release, the Raiders are subject to approximately $12 million in dead money against the salary cap both in 2023 and 2024, as the team restructured Jones' deal in March to create additional cap space.
It is unclear whether the Raiders will attempt to recoup any of the previously paid money to Jones that would be permissible as a result of him being placed on the NFI list.
SDJohnny
Footballguy
I'm sure that they are going to seek cap relief based on the arrest. Jones has bailed out and is no longer in custody.Thanks. What a horrendous deal. Bad team management strikes again. :(I'm not sure, but from the article:I’m definitely sad for him and his fragile mental state, but…Raiders releasing Chandler Jones.
Raiders release DE Jones after turbulent week
The Raiders have released defensive end Chandler Jones. Jones, who was arrested in Las Vegas on Friday, had been placed on the non-football illness list last week.
money wise, what does this mean for the Raiders releasing him? We eat the whole remainder of his contract? Or what?
Jones was in the second season of a three-year, $51 million contract he signed last year. As a result of his release, the Raiders are subject to approximately $12 million in dead money against the salary cap both in 2023 and 2024, as the team restructured Jones' deal in March to create additional cap space.
It is unclear whether the Raiders will attempt to recoup any of the previously paid money to Jones that would be permissible as a result of him being placed on the NFI list.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Being reported that J G is out this week
AOC baby! The start of a new era. Here comes our Brock Purdy
LawFitz
Footballguy
He had a $13mm cap hit this year, so releasing him actually frees up ~$1mm in 2023 cap, despite the dead cap charge.
The $12mm in 2024 dead cap was baked in regardless. Even if he hadn't gone sideways, there was zero chance they were going to pay him the $17mm in non-guaranteed salary he was due next year. By cutting him next offseason they were going to get hit with that $12mm 2024 dead cap, so this doesn't change that at all.
Biggest (new) miss to this right now IMO is the roster spot he took up the first two weeks. During that window they lost Sam Webb and McLendon Curtis from the PS. Pretty sure at least one of those two would still be a Raider had they cut or NFI'd Chan from go, like I had been suggesting they might do this preseason. :(
LawFitz
Footballguy
Have they announced AOC over Hoyer?
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
hoyer is going to start 
LawFitz
Footballguy
hoyer is going to start
Where did you hear this? I don’t see it being reported anywhere.
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
hondo and other beat writers saying hoyer. apparently aoc did not get practice time with starters
raidersraidersraiders
Footballguy
anybody got hoyer on their fantasy?
ZADO
Footballguy
If the Raiders lose this week they 100 % suck
It now appears as if the Chargers will be without safety Derwin James (out), running back Austin Ekeler (doubtful), wide receiver Mike Williams (injured reserve), and Joey Bosa (doubtful) for Week 4 against the Raiders.
