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I don't have a problem with the coach not getting along with waller or renfrow. the problem is holding on to players too long and not trading when they still have decent value.

the receivers mcD likes are getting open. the problem is at quarterback and mcD picked his guys, so the suck is on him.

renfrow can stay or go. the only downside is getting not much in compensation.
It`s not just those 2 players , its most of the team if not all of them, hes lost the locker room for reason, it has to be a combination of ineptitude and his off putting personality .


He such a polar opposite of ex interm coach Rich Bisaccia
 
You give me Adams, Meyers, Renfro, Jacobs, and a TE to be named later and still be 30th in points...

You fire the reason why.
Their plan at QB going into the season was a major blunder. Davante knew it, that’s why he went public in the offseason about his concerns for the direction of the team. And he is 100% correct.
I get it, Carr isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, he’s not a world beater, he’s not going to take a team with some deficiencies to a Super Bowl. But to move off of him for and oft-injured QB, an over the hill career back up and a 4th round draft pick made absolutely no sense. For those reasons alone, the whole McZ regime should be fired.
This entire project is about capturing the magic of the Patriots dynasty , thats it, no back up plan .
 
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You give me Adams, Meyers, Renfro, Jacobs, and a TE to be named later and still be 30th in points...

You fire the reason why.
Their plan at QB going into the season was a major blunder. Davante knew it, that’s why he went public in the offseason about his concerns for the direction of the team. And he is 100% correct.
I get it, Carr isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, he’s not a world beater, he’s not going to take a team with some deficiencies to a Super Bowl. But to move off of him for and oft-injured QB, an over the hill career back up and a 4th round draft pick made absolutely no sense. For those reasons alone, the whole McZ regime should be fired.
I was in favor of giving Stidham a shot and I think that should have been the move.
 
You give me Adams, Meyers, Renfro, Jacobs, and a TE to be named later and still be 30th in points...

You fire the reason why.
Their plan at QB going into the season was a major blunder. Davante knew it, that’s why he went public in the offseason about his concerns for the direction of the team. And he is 100% correct.
I get it, Carr isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, he’s not a world beater, he’s not going to take a team with some deficiencies to a Super Bowl. But to move off of him for and oft-injured QB, an over the hill career back up and a 4th round draft pick made absolutely no sense. For those reasons alone, the whole McZ regime should be fired.
I was in favor of giving Stidham a shot and I think that should have been the move.
i liked Stidham as well , im sorry but i honestly believe the a lot of fans would make better decisions than the actual franchise :laugh:
 
So reports are Renfrow and the visor don't get along and that a trade may be imminent and its as much personal as it is needed . Didn't things get personal with Waller as well? What's with this coach ????
And Carr.

When one person calls you an donkey... ignore them. When two people call you a donkey, but a saddle.
 
I don't have a problem with the coach not getting along with waller or renfrow. the problem is holding on to players too long and not trading when they still have decent value.

the receivers mcD likes are getting open. the problem is at quarterback and mcD picked his guys, so the suck is on him.

renfrow can stay or go. the only downside is getting not much in compensation.
It`s not just those 2 players , its most of the team if not all of them, hes lost the locker room for reason, it has to be a combination of ineptitude and his off putting personality .


He such a polar opposite of ex interm coach Rich Bisaccia
Light years apart
 
You give me Adams, Meyers, Renfro, Jacobs, and a TE to be named later and still be 30th in points...

You fire the reason why.
Their plan at QB going into the season was a major blunder. Davante knew it, that’s why he went public in the offseason about his concerns for the direction of the team. And he is 100% correct.
I get it, Carr isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, he’s not a world beater, he’s not going to take a team with some deficiencies to a Super Bowl. But to move off of him for and oft-injured QB, an over the hill career back up and a 4th round draft pick made absolutely no sense. For those reasons alone, the whole McZ regime should be fired.
I was in favor of giving Stidham a shot and I think that should have been the move.
i liked Stidham as well , im sorry but i honestly believe the a lot of fans would make better decisions than the actual franchise :laugh:
Every time I hear someone make the argument that the guys getting paid to make the decisions are professionals and know better than the fans, I think of the Raiders and know that's not true.
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
Hes the smartest guy in the room , just ask him
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
Hes the smartest guy in the room , just ask him
Not if Gruden is in the room, ask Gruden.
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
Hes the smartest guy in the room , just ask him
Not if Gruden is in the room, ask Gruden.
If we are talking pure intelligence.... I am taking Gruden over McD.
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
The problem with us looking in and making assumptions about how people are in real life, is we don’t know squat about them. Did anyone have chandler jones is conspiracy fruitcake on their bingo card? Speaking to your Waller comment, I know plenty of addicts and recovered addicts. They don’t tend to have the most stable baselines. i have no clue what waller is like personally. Carr outside his raiders bubble is starting to show cracks in his Saint carr persona. Renfrow? Who knows. Seems likeable but he might be a raging a hole on the down low. :shrug:

and don’t forget, all of these guys are type A competitors fighting for a very limited number of jobs. Fighting to feed their families(in the manor that they’re accustomed to :lmao: ) When it comes down to it, if mcD is f’ing with their livelyhoods(he is) there’s going to blow back. no matter who is “right”
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
Hes the smartest guy in the room , just ask him
Not if Gruden is in the room, ask Gruden.
If we are talking pure intelligence.... I am taking Gruden over McD.
Same. But it was more a condemnation of their FIGJAM personalities.
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
Hes the smartest guy in the room , just ask him
Not if Gruden is in the room, ask Gruden.
Gruden is very likable ...intense ...but likable
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
The problem with us looking in and making assumptions about how people are in real life, is we don’t know squat about them. Did anyone have chandler jones is conspiracy fruitcake on their bingo card? Speaking to your Waller comment, I know plenty of addicts and recovered addicts. They don’t tend to have the most stable baselines. i have no clue what waller is like personally. Carr outside his raiders bubble is starting to show cracks in his Saint carr persona. Renfrow? Who knows. Seems likeable but he might be a raging a hole on the down low. :shrug:

and don’t forget, all of these guys are type A competitors fighting for a very limited number of jobs. Fighting to feed their families(in the manor that they’re accustomed to :lmao: ) When it comes down to it, if mcD is f’ing with their livelyhoods(he is) there’s going to blow back. no matter who is “right”
You live in California... 90% of the population are addicts or recovering addicts.

Let's say that all the instances of conflict with McD.... going back to at least Denver..... are all about everyone else. Which is a hard argument to make even when McD himself admitted he made mistakes when in Denver. Let's say that....

Ok. Still. We have RB and line capable of leading the league in rushing. We have the best WR in the game. We brought in another WR who was the #1 on his previous team. We have another WR who has a 100 catch season under his belt. We drafted a rookie TE that has all the skills to excel. And with all of this.... all of this.... our coach who is supposed to be an offensive genius has us 3rd to last in points per game. Dead last in rushing yards per game. Beating out only 5 other teams for total yards per game. Oh, and that guy that has a 100 catches... he has been ignored completely.

Absolute epic failure.
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
Hes the smartest guy in the room , just ask him
Not if Gruden is in the room, ask Gruden.
Gruden is very likable ...intense ...but likable
Oh dang... now you gone and done it.

:popcorn:
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
Hes the smartest guy in the room , just ask him
Not if Gruden is in the room, ask Gruden.
Gruden is very likable ...intense ...but likable
i guess. His schtick wore out on me about 2 years into his tv career. he’s not dissimilar to steven a or skip bayless. Yelling and carrying on, simply for effect
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
Hes the smartest guy in the room , just ask him
Not if Gruden is in the room, ask Gruden.
Gruden is very likable ...intense ...but likable
i guess. His schtick wore out on me about 2 years into his tv career. he’s not dissimilar to steven a or skip bayless. Yelling and carrying on, simply for effect
Oh... well.... gee.... that was anti-climatic.
 
And let's think about this... if reports are all true and McD has had personal conflict with Waller, Renfrow and Carr.... Waller seems like a pretty easy guy to get alone with by I could maybe see personality conflict.... Carr and Renfrow strike me as the type of guys that go out of their way to not have conflict with other people and be friendly to everyone.

I was easily the biggest voice against hiring McD around these thread. Once we hired him, I tried to keep an open mind and there were some things that I picked up on that hopefully pointed towards me being wrong. It appears I wasn't. I saw an anonymous player quote about the Bears game "it is the worst feeling on offense when the defense calls out your plays and knows what you are running. Chicago did that constantly." That is pathetic and inexcusable for NFL level offenses these days.

McD is a failure as a HC. I don't see any redemption either. This isn't a case of he needs more time to build the team up, this is the guy is out of his depth as a NFL HC. At this point, I don't see why he is even worthy of a OC position once he is gone.
The problem with us looking in and making assumptions about how people are in real life, is we don’t know squat about them. Did anyone have chandler jones is conspiracy fruitcake on their bingo card? Speaking to your Waller comment, I know plenty of addicts and recovered addicts. They don’t tend to have the most stable baselines. i have no clue what waller is like personally. Carr outside his raiders bubble is starting to show cracks in his Saint carr persona. Renfrow? Who knows. Seems likeable but he might be a raging a hole on the down low. :shrug:

and don’t forget, all of these guys are type A competitors fighting for a very limited number of jobs. Fighting to feed their families(in the manor that they’re accustomed to :lmao: ) When it comes down to it, if mcD is f’ing with their livelyhoods(he is) there’s going to blow back. no matter who is “right”
You live in California... 90% of the population are addicts or recovering addicts.

Let's say that all the instances of conflict with McD.... going back to at least Denver..... are all about everyone else. Which is a hard argument to make even when McD himself admitted he made mistakes when in Denver. Let's say that....

Ok. Still. We have RB and line capable of leading the league in rushing. We have the best WR in the game. We brought in another WR who was the #1 on his previous team. We have another WR who has a 100 catch season under his belt. We drafted a rookie TE that has all the skills to excel. And with all of this.... all of this.... our coach who is supposed to be an offensive genius has us 3rd to last in points per game. Dead last in rushing yards per game. Beating out only 5 other teams for total yards per game. Oh, and that guy that has a 100 catches... he has been ignored completely.

Absolute epic failure.
I’m not arguing for mcD at all. He’s proven to be a clown. You’re right. I'm only saying that we really don’t know these people and they’re all putting on a front when they’re on camera. Most of the t8me.
 
You live in California... 90% of the population are addicts or recovering addicts.
What an incredible ****

You live in California... 90% of the population are addicts or recovering addicts.
What an incredible ****
I was simply going to reply with an LOL, assuming it was hyperbole and a big joke. :)
I just ignored it as a very bad joke.
 
You live in California... 90% of the population are addicts or recovering addicts.
What an incredible ****

You live in California... 90% of the population are addicts or recovering addicts.
What an incredible ****
I was simply going to reply with an LOL, assuming it was hyperbole and a big joke. :)
I just ignored it as a very bad joke.
Its actually 9 %
 
You live in California... 90% of the population are addicts or recovering addicts.
What an incredible ****

You live in California... 90% of the population are addicts or recovering addicts.
What an incredible ****
I was simply going to reply with an LOL, assuming it was hyperbole and a big joke. :)
I just ignored it as a very bad joke.
Its actually 9 %
99%? That is a bit too high.
 
I think a lot of these reports get overblown. If you talk to certain players after a bad loss you will get them venting frustration.

Hondo made a great point about this in a recent video. He said that there are players who don't like mcD on the team currently, but they are the outliers. Most of the team is still on board because it's a lot of his guys and also why would they want him gone if it means another rebuild. Any new coach that comes in is going to do the same thing any new HC does, bring in their own guys and start the process all over again. It's better for the players on the roster if the team can turn the corner on offense and get it going in the right direction. Being against your coach when the team is at 3-4 with majority of the losses being close games. It doesn't make much sense from the players perspective.

we're just frustrated fans here. the players get frustrated too, but they also have more reason to stick with their coach.

I applaud mcD for getting rid of waller and carr. Neither were getting the job done for one reason or another. Waller became a cap hit sitting on the bench or at home all season and carr didn't fit the offense for more reasons than getting along with the coach. Seeing how both are performing on their new teams, mcD got those 2 right.
 
looks like Jimmy G is a full go

not sure which one of us should be happier at the news.....
Back injuries are a different injury animal , he could get sacked 3 times hard and be fine , then he could just be sitting on the bench and stand up and throw his back out again :P
 
looks like Jimmy G is a full go

not sure which one of us should be happier at the news.....
Back injuries are a different injury animal , he could get sacked 3 times hard and be fine , then he could just be sitting on the bench and stand up and throw his back out again :P

tell me about it

we have two players who had the L4-L5 spinal fusion surgery last year (DI Onwuzurike & RG Vaitai)

feels like they’re held together with butcher’s twine
 
Webster’s Dictionary needs a new word added:
Raidered: verb, past tense:meaning: When a team plays the Las Vegas Raiders and their backups have career games and give their fans false hope. Example: Last week Bears fans got Raidered, now they’re back to reality.
 
Dreading this game
I feel like I’m coming a long way in my quest to give less of a sh1t about this team. I honestly have almost no feelings about this game tonight. If the lions win, good for them in their quest to get out of the “worst franchises in the NFL“ gutter. Seems the Raiders are doomed to remain in that gutter.
of course I type this when I’m not sitting in front of the TV with the game action in full motion. Let’s see where my “give less of a ****” level is at in the 4th quarter tonight.

more importantly for me, I have Adams in 1 fantasy league and need 16, but I have Adams going against me in another league where I lead by 21. I’m hoping to thread the needle. That’s the emotional waves I’ll really be riding tonight :)
 
Dreading this game
I feel like I’m coming a long way in my quest to give less of a sh1t about this team. I honestly have almost no feelings about this game tonight. If the lions win, good for them in their quest to get out of the “worst franchises in the NFL“ gutter. Seems the Raiders are doomed to remain in that gutter.
of course I type this when I’m not sitting in front of the TV with the game action in full motion. Let’s see where my “give less of a ****” level is at in the 4th quarter tonight.

more importantly for me, I have Adams in 1 fantasy league and need 16, but I have Adams going against me in another league where I lead by 21. I’m hoping to thread the needle. That’s the emotional waves I’ll really be riding tonight :)
I’m in the same boat. Part of my dread is I almost don’t care. It’s becoming like the Jamarcus years. Embarrassing and I didn’t watch half the time.
 
Dreading this game
I feel like I’m coming a long way in my quest to give less of a sh1t about this team. I honestly have almost no feelings about this game tonight. If the lions win, good for them in their quest to get out of the “worst franchises in the NFL“ gutter. Seems the Raiders are doomed to remain in that gutter.
of course I type this when I’m not sitting in front of the TV with the game action in full motion. Let’s see where my “give less of a ****” level is at in the 4th quarter tonight.

more importantly for me, I have Adams in 1 fantasy league and need 16, but I have Adams going against me in another league where I lead by 21. I’m hoping to thread the needle. That’s the emotional waves I’ll really be riding tonight :)
I’m in the same boat. Part of my dread is I almost don’t care. It’s becoming like the Jamarcus years. Embarrassing and I didn’t watch half the time.
Same. I don’t care much about the Raiders since they are years away from being playoff caliber. Heck, they aren’t even on the path to being playoff caliber. I will probably watch the second quarter of tonight’s game like I do most Monday nights. It feels like any other Monday night game and it’s not worth staying up late. I expect the Raiders to lose by 13 tonight. Hard to get excited about that.
 
These replies to my post are disheartening but appropriate considering what the franchise has done for us (almost nothing) over the past 2 decades. Sad but true :(
 
:ROFLMAO: sorry, not joining in on this sad boi pitty party

I'll be watching tonight. I barely remember the last game because I was still half drunk from the night before when I watched. if one thing came out of that game it's that hoyer should not be starting when jimmy meatball is injured. hoyer was supposed to know the offense better, but it didn't look better than what the rookie showed against the chargers.

team is 3-4. I've watched when the team had a worse record with less talent. that's what's frustrating, there is talent on the roster on offense, receivers have been getting open. the tight ends are starting to show up. we know the run game opens up when deep completions are made.

the bears game looked like mcD planned things out thinking the bears wouldn't be able to score. like he was planning to play it safe and win with field goals again. offense was predictable and never showed up. not until it was too late and O dawg came in.

with the meatball continuing his legacy of being knocked out of games. it's only a matter of time until alexandia ocasio-cortez is starting :wub:
 
𝗥𝗘𝗣𝗢𝗥𝗧: The #Raiders held a team meeting Thursday with coach Josh McDaniels where players voiced their frustrations over the team, per
@TomPelissero
Davante Adams, Josh Jacobs and Maxx Crosby were among the guys to speak at the meeting, which was viewed as a positive meeting. “Nothing was off limits”


Oh to be a fly on the wall for THAT one
 
Hunter for Hunter ?

Danielle Hunter, EDGE, Vikings

Hunter has nine sacks and a dozen TFLs, which is also the most in the league. Trade rumors have surrounded Hunter for nearly two years, but the Vikings patched things over with a one-year deal in the offseason. Unless they can agree on a new deal in the spring, Hunter will become a free agency and earn a massive contract if he keeps this pace up. With Kirk Cousins out for the year, Minnesota should be ready to put their season to bed and send Hunter off as a half-season rental for a team looking to make a playoff push. According to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, the Vikings “are at least listening” to offers for Hunter.
 

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