2024-25 NBA Thread: “the sun will still come up tomorrow”, Bucks fan says in city that hasn’t seen the sun since September (26 Viewers)

[Encyclopedia Brown]

So what happens when the Mavs don't have 8 players to field a team?

Give Rolando Blackman a call?

 

[Anarchy99]

From Bobby Marks:

Here is the hardship exception language.

The Mavericks would be eligible for multiple.

The problem comes with they are only $51K below the first apron and cannot exceed the threshold.

A 10-Day contract is $119,972.

2023 CBA

The “hardship” rules allow a team to obtain an additional roster spot (i.e., have more than 18 players under contract) during the Regular Season in the following circumstances: (i) the team has four injured or ill players under Standard NBA Contracts; (ii) the first three such players have been out for at least three consecutive Regular Season games due to injury or illness; (iii) the fourth player also has missed at least three consecutive Regular Season games due to injury or illness; and (iv) all four players will continue to be unable to perform playing services for a minimum of an additional two weeks.

They could just put enough injured guys on the active roster to qualify as having 8 guys suit up. They don't have to play them.

We did something similar when I coached football. By the end of the season, we had some kids out for the season with injuries and then a stomach bug hit a bunch of kids. We weren't going to forfeit a playoff game, so we had to dress some of the sick kids to make the minimum active roster requirement. It had to sukk to be those kids. The weather was cold, wet, and nasty, and they were puking into buckets on the sideline. We just about burned out the other kids with the amount they had to play. We won the game, though.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So what happens when the Mavs don't have 8 players to field a team?

Give Rolando Blackman a call?

I don't know why, because I have no connection to the player or the team, but for some weird reason this SI cover sticks out in my mind as one of my favorites from when I was a kid

https://render.fineartamerica.com/images/rendered/default/poster/10/14/break/images/artworkimages/medium/2/the-mighty-have-fallen-rolando-blackman-shoots-down-oregon-march-23-1981-sports-illustrated-cover.jpg

 

[Kev4029]

So what happens when the Mavs don't have 8 players to field a team?

I would think it would have to be a forfeit. I would prefer if they did what the NHL does with the reserve goalies and grab someone from the stands to suit up.

Suit up one of the 50 year old fat former player coaches. Let's get Jared Dudley out there.

 

[Anarchy99]

I don't know who is banged up or isn't (or who normally would be on the roster). But the Mavs box score lists 12 players (7 that have played so far).

 

[Yo Mama]

I don't know who is banged up or isn't (or who normally would be on the roster). But the Mavs box score lists 12 players (7 that have played so far).

I think they got a couple back tonight from their 8 the other night.

 

[the moops]

So what happens when the Mavs don't have 8 players to field a team?

I would think it would have to be a forfeit. I would prefer if they did what the NHL does with the reserve goalies and grab someone from the stands to suit up.

Suit up one of the 50 year old fat former player coaches. Let's get Jared Dudley out there.

Saw that dude on the bench the other night. Damn he must be almost twice as heavy as he was when he came out of college.

 

[General Malaise]

I think Nico needs to just stew in this miasma. He created it, there should be a camera on him 24/7 to witness the catastrophe he created.

 

[mr. furley]

Giannis 6th youngest to 20,000 on Wednesday night. Needs to celebrate by going out for fish fry tonight.

do non-Wisconsinites get this?

 

[Moe.]

Westbrook and Ibaka isn’t too bad from the same draft. One of the better ones this century for sure.

 

[Courtjester]

31 pt 21rb 22 as for Joker unreal

 

[Yo Mama]

31 pt 21rb 22 as for Joker unreal

Yeah that’s crazy

 

[Kev4029]

31 pt 21rb 22 as for Joker unreal

First player ever with a 30-20-20 game. The Suns were beating him up defensively in a drop coverage then at the end of the forth and OT they brought him up to the level of the screen and they looked pretty good defensively.

Gordon hit 7 threes which I find to be nearly as crazy of a stat as Jokic's line, with the context of Gordon being a mediocre shooter and Jokic being maybe the best offensive basketball player ever. He is shooting the hell out of the ball this year.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I’m not sure if it was all roses for the Nuggets last night. Sure Joker had an amazing stat line that will go down as one of the more impressive ones in history, but the Nuggets seemed to do almost everything they could to give a game away that they frankly should have ran away with easily. Jokic has a 30-20-20 game, Gordon turns into Reggie Miller, they Nuggets go up by 20+ points to a team that is a mess, Braun goes for 25 points on 8-11 from the field—and the Nuggets needed overtime to win? Jokic is the best player in the world, but he had the worst plus/minus out of the Denver starters last night—and what he did defensively against the Suns big men is being massively overlooked. Nick Richard’s and Mason Plumlee combined to go for 36 points and 16 rebounds on 16-21 from the fiield. Effectively, the center position for the suns (which is arguably the position where they have the least offensive talent) outscored the center position against a team that has the best center/player in the world. Even though the Nuggets won, and Jokic had a beautiful stat line, Gordon+Braun+Murray all played well—-they still barely beat a Suns team that is in disarray in Denver.

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[Dr. Octopus]

After further research, the Celtics also didn't draft Cousy and Sharman.

Other than that…

 

[Major]

31 pt 21rb 22 as for Joker unreal

First player ever with a 30-20-20 game. The Suns were beating him up defensively in a drop coverage then at the end of the forth and OT they brought him up to the level of the screen and they looked pretty good defensively.

Gordon hit 7 threes which I find to be nearly as crazy of a stat as Jokic's line, with the context of Gordon being a mediocre shooter and Jokic being maybe the best offensive basketball player ever. He is shooting the hell out of the ball this year.

That play by PHX to send it to OT was a thing beauty. Great pass by Booker and Durant with the finish.

 

[the moops]

Westbrook and Ibaka isn’t too bad from the same draft. One of the better ones this century for sure.

Draymond Green and Harrison Barnes is pretty good.

Joel Embiid and Jerami Grant

Also I never realized that Denver drafted Donovan Mitchell but traded him for Trey Lyles and Tyler Lydon. Ooof

 

[Kev4029]

Westbrook and Ibaka isn’t too bad from the same draft. One of the better ones this century for sure.

Draymond Green and Harrison Barnes is pretty good.

Joel Embiid and Jerami Grant

Also I never realized that Denver drafted Donovan Mitchell but traded him for Trey Lyles and Tyler Lydon. Ooof

Context for the Denver trade that kind of makes it worse - their target was OG who would have been a great fit for the team. They thought they could trade back, pick up a distressed asset in Lyles (something of a second draft guy, he was AWFUL in his sophomore year with Utah), and still grab OG. The Raptors sniped him the pick before Denver.

The Nuggets gifted Utah probably their 3rd and 4th best players in franchise history in Mitchell and Gobert (Mitchell is debatable but Gobert is better than Dantley or Pistol Pete). The last first round pick that was straight up sold for cash was that Gobert pick in 2013 (technically Erick Green was included but he was overseas at the time after being a mid-2nd rounder the year before).

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Just saw this stat breakdown about Joker’s performance last night:

At 10:22 left in the 3rd quarter, Jokic logged his 29th triple-double of the season.

He had 13/10/10 at that moment in time.

THEN...after logging that triple-double...

He had ANOTHER triple-double!

18/11/12 the rest of the game.

 

[Kev4029]

31 pt 21rb 22 as for Joker unreal

First player ever with a 30-20-20 game. The Suns were beating him up defensively in a drop coverage then at the end of the forth and OT they brought him up to the level of the screen and they looked pretty good defensively.

Gordon hit 7 threes which I find to be nearly as crazy of a stat as Jokic's line, with the context of Gordon being a mediocre shooter and Jokic being maybe the best offensive basketball player ever. He is shooting the hell out of the ball this year.

That play by PHX to send it to OT was a thing beauty. Great pass by Booker and Durant with the finish.

And a bad defensive plan. As that shot was going in, Gordon was under the hoop all alone. Most fun game I've been to this year BUT it didn't have to be that fun.

 

[Major]

Westbrook and Ibaka isn’t too bad from the same draft. One of the better ones this century for sure.

Draymond Green and Harrison Barnes is pretty good.

Joel Embiid and Jerami Grant

Also I never realized that Denver drafted Donovan Mitchell but traded him for Trey Lyles and Tyler Lydon. Ooof

Sengun and Jalen for sure

 

[the moops]

Jokic obviously had a ridiculous game. But it should'd have been 22 assists. Some of these are way too generous of scorekeeping.

Shouldn't be an assist

Nor this

And this

Another

 

[Uncle Leo]

Just saw this stat breakdown about Joker’s performance last night:

At 10:22 left in the 3rd quarter, Jokic logged his 29th triple-double of the season.

He had 13/10/10 at that moment in time.

THEN...after logging that triple-double...

He had ANOTHER triple-double!

18/11/12 the rest of the game.

MVP

 

[Kev4029]

Jokic obviously had a ridiculous game. But it should'd have been 22 assists. Some of these are way too generous of scorekeeping.

Shouldn't be an assist

Nor this

And this

Another

I would say #4 is 100% legit - the pass lead to Murray being open for a drive directly to the hoop. The MPJ one is probably an assist but up to the score keeper. The other two, especially the Westbrook assist ,are questionable at best.

 

[Yo Mama]

Jokic obviously had a ridiculous game. But it should'd have been 22 assists. Some of these are way too generous of scorekeeping.

Shouldn't be an assist

Nor this

And this

Another

I would say #4 is 100% legit - the pass lead to Murray being open for a drive directly to the hoop. The MPJ one is probably an assist but up to the score keeper. The other two, especially the Westbrook assist ,are questionable at best.

I’ve seen clips from a few games with these “assists”, where the guy Jokic passes to has 3-4 dribbles including a pause or change in direction. Denver must have hired the Memphis scorekeeper who gave JJJ all those “blocks” to help him get DPOY. Jokic is a great player having an all-time great season - he doesn’t need the stat padding.

 

[Navin Johnson]

Jokic obviously had a ridiculous game. But it should'd have been 22 assists. Some of these are way too generous of scorekeeping.

Shouldn't be an assist

Nor this

And this

Another

I would say #4 is 100% legit - the pass lead to Murray being open for a drive directly to the hoop. The MPJ one is probably an assist but up to the score keeper. The other two, especially the Westbrook assist ,are questionable at best.

I’ve seen clips from a few games with these “assists”, where the guy Jokic passes to has 3-4 dribbles including a pause or change in direction. Denver must have hired the Memphis scorekeeper who gave JJJ all those “blocks” to help him get DPOY. Jokic is a great player having an all-time great season - he doesn’t need the stat padding.

You gotta see some of the Caitlin Clark assists. Passes the ball to wing, jab, pump fake, receives ball screen, takes the dribbles and finishes on the other side of the lane

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Jokic obviously had a ridiculous game. But it should'd have been 22 assists. Some of these are way too generous of scorekeeping.

Shouldn't be an assist

Nor this

And this

Another

He also gave up 36 points and 16 rebounds to Nick Richards and Mason Plumlee combined. They shot a combined 16-21 from the field (nearly 80%). Jokic is arguably the best player on the planet (I’m totally on board with that)—but there are ugly aspects that involve him in last nights game that are being overlooked because of statistical tunnel vision. He had the worst plus/minus out of all of Denver starters even with that godly stat line. As great as he is offensively for a big man, he’s a defensive sieve. Phoenix should not have even been in that game last night based solely on how well Gordon, Murray, Braun and Porter played—and they barely pulled it off. The Nuggets need to step things back up on the defensive end as they aren’t going to win many games giving up 140+ points.

 

[NewlyRetired]

John Salley and Dennis Rodman was the same draft I believe. Rodman went in the second round, Salley in the first.

 

[Kev4029]

Jokic obviously had a ridiculous game. But it should'd have been 22 assists. Some of these are way too generous of scorekeeping.

Shouldn't be an assist

Nor this

And this

Another

He also gave up 36 points and 16 rebounds to Nick Richards and Mason Plumlee combined. They shot a combined 16-21 from the field (nearly 80%). Jokic is arguably the best player on the planet (I’m totally on board with that)—but there are ugly aspects that involve him in last nights game that are being overlooked because of statistical tunnel vision. He had the worst plus/minus out of all of Denver starters even with that godly stat line. As great as he is offensively for a big man, he’s a defensive sieve. Phoenix should not have even been in that game last night based solely on how well Gordon, Murray, Braun and Porter played—and they barely pulled it off. The Nuggets need to step things back up on the defensive end as they aren’t going to win many games giving up 140+ points.

Plumlee had 10 points in the last minute of overtime as the Nuggets were phoning it in. One of those baskets was a putback on an airball as well as a basket in the 4th quarter.

Regarding Richards, he had a few of his baskets on putback dunk (which Jokic could have done better on but hard to blame a dude that grabbed nearly 50% of available defensive rebounds), at least three jumpers (which is something a team would absolutely give him), and a couple other that were either lazy Jokic or a product of them selling out against Durant/Booker/Beal.

When the Nuggets were dialed in defensively last night, putting Jokic at the level of the screen and switching behind him, they looked really good. When Jokic was in drop, it was a problem as it always is. Defending at the level of the screen is too much work to consistently do with Jokic for an entire game in a relatively meaningless mid-season game. This was true the last few years as well which is why they switch to put Jokic at the level of the screen in the playoffs.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Jokic obviously had a ridiculous game. But it should'd have been 22 assists. Some of these are way too generous of scorekeeping.

Shouldn't be an assist

Nor this

And this

Another

He also gave up 36 points and 16 rebounds to Nick Richards and Mason Plumlee combined. They shot a combined 16-21 from the field (nearly 80%). Jokic is arguably the best player on the planet (I’m totally on board with that)—but there are ugly aspects that involve him in last nights game that are being overlooked because of statistical tunnel vision. He had the worst plus/minus out of all of Denver starters even with that godly stat line. As great as he is offensively for a big man, he’s a defensive sieve. Phoenix should not have even been in that game last night based solely on how well Gordon, Murray, Braun and Porter played—and they barely pulled it off. The Nuggets need to step things back up on the defensive end as they aren’t going to win many games giving up 140+ points.

Plumlee had 10 points in the last minute of overtime as the Nuggets were phoning it in. One of those baskets was a putback on an airball as well as a basket in the 4th quarter.

Regarding Richards, he had a few of his baskets on putback dunk (which Jokic could have done better on but hard to blame a dude that grabbed nearly 50% of available defensive rebounds), at least three jumpers (which is something a team would absolutely give him), and a couple other that were either lazy Jokic or a product of them selling out against Durant/Booker/Beal.

When the Nuggets were dialed in defensively last night, putting Jokic at the level of the screen and switching behind him, they looked really good. When Jokic was in drop, it was a problem as it always is. Defending at the level of the screen is too much work to consistently do with Jokic for an entire game in a relatively meaningless mid-season game. This was true the last few years as well which is why they switch to put Jokic at the level of the screen in the playoffs.

You can paint it all you want—but Richards is a 9 point per game scorer on average this season and plumlee is a 4-5 point a game scorer this season. They combined for 36. The center position is arguably the position that the Suns have the least talent in—and the center position that the Nuggets have the best player in the world in. The Suns outscored them at that position on nearly 80% shooting on what everybody is touting as some sort of historic performance by Jokic. He played exception on the offensive end but nobody that watched that game (even the biggest fan of his) can try to claim that he was remotely impressive on the defensive end. If he puts that kind of defensive effort during the playoffs against teams that aren’t a mess—it is going to be very hard to trust the Nuggets. I think he can and will do better, but I think he’s getting glazed waaaay too much for his performance last night.

 

[SayWhat?]

Imagine being mad about praise being heaped on a player that put up a stat line that no player in the history of the NBA has ever put up, in a game that his team won. Guess he didn’t do enough. Should’ve blocked 10 shots too for the quad.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Imagine being mad about praise being heaped on a player that put up a stat line that no player in the history of the NBA has ever put up, in a game that his team won. Guess he didn’t do enough. Should’ve blocked 10 shots too for the quad.

When did I ever say I was mad. I’d like to see Denver do things in the playoffs in the West and giving Jokic nothing but praise for that performance is disingenuous. James Harden was putting up massive offensive stat lines in Houston and EVERYBODY gave him a hard time for his performance on the defensive end. The same thing can be said about Trae Young, and Luka Doncic. Everybody always tempers their elite offensive outputs with their defensive shortcomings. How come when somebody even mentions that about Jokic—it’s somehow hating? Is he immune from any and all criticism?

 

[Zeppelin]

When did I ever say I was mad. I’d like to see Denver do things in the playoffs in the West and giving Jokic nothing but praise for that performance is disingenuous. James Harden was putting up massive offensive stat lines in Houston and EVERYBODY gave him a hard time for his performance on the defensive end. The same thing can be said about Trae Young, and Luka Doncic. Everybody always tempers their elite offensive outputs with their defensive shortcomings. How come when somebody even mentions that about Jokic—it’s somehow hating? Is he immune from any and all criticism?

People seem to be looking for something to criticize Jokic for. Jokic won a championship, the others didn't.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

When did I ever say I was mad. I’d like to see Denver do things in the playoffs in the West and giving Jokic nothing but praise for that performance is disingenuous. James Harden was putting up massive offensive stat lines in Houston and EVERYBODY gave him a hard time for his performance on the defensive end. The same thing can be said about Trae Young, and Luka Doncic. Everybody always tempers their elite offensive outputs with their defensive shortcomings. How come when somebody even mentions that about Jokic—it’s somehow hating? Is he immune from any and all criticism?

People seem to be looking for something to criticize Jokic for. Jokic won a championship, the others didn't.

Championships don’t mean that a player is perfect or cannot improve. Ben Wallace won a championship. He was offensively terrible. Giannis won a ring—his perimeter shooting could use improvement. Jokic is a champion and he’s offensively elite. That doesn’t mean that he can’t be criticized when he lets two bums score 36 points on him from nearly 80% from the field. He had an offensively elite game and objectively he had a defensively pathetic one. Sorry if that’s hating, that’s just reality. Lebron has multiple rings and has a better resume than Jokic —that tdoesn’t seem to stop many people in here from being objective about his shortcomings.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Am I foolish to think Golden State might also pose some problems in the West or are they an afterthought?

Somewhere in between. Really depends on Steph. If he can stay on/recreate the heater he’s on now, they certainly will be dangerous.

 

[Stoneworker]

The best stat about Jokic is the one that measures how much he cares about everyone arguing over his stats. Exactly zero

 

[Kev4029]

Imagine being mad about praise being heaped on a player that put up a stat line that no player in the history of the NBA has ever put up, in a game that his team won. Guess he didn’t do enough. Should’ve blocked 10 shots too for the quad.

When did I ever say I was mad. I’d like to see Denver do things in the playoffs in the West and giving Jokic nothing but praise for that performance is disingenuous. James Harden was putting up massive offensive stat lines in Houston and EVERYBODY gave him a hard time for his performance on the defensive end. The same thing can be said about Trae Young, and Luka Doncic. Everybody always tempers their elite offensive outputs with their defensive shortcomings. How come when somebody even mentions that about Jokic—it’s somehow hating? Is he immune from any and all criticism?

If you were watching that game, I don't think you would have the same criticisms, both because most of the post scoring wasn't necessarily his fault (or like I said, Plumlee scoring 10 points when they were down more than 10 in the last minute of overtime), and because his fault is usually in containing ball handlers in the drop. Last night that wasn't a huge problem as the Suns were resorting to a lot more iso but they were doubling more than usual.

And it is also disingenuous to think that any player in modern basketball could be both an offensive fulcrum to the level that Jokic is AND be a defensive stalwart. More than any player in the history of the NBA (due to his skill offensively and the reliance on pick and roll in the NBA, defensively), he is the focus of nearly every possession on the court. That's why they play drop for most of the game, which he is not as good with - saves his energy while letting him play 37 minutes a game or whatever.

When the game matters, the Nuggets have been somewhere between good and elite defensively for a while now. In the clutch, this season they are 12th in the NBA defensively, last year they were second, title year they were third.

 

[General Malaise]

Am I foolish to think Golden State might also pose some problems in the West or are they an afterthought?

Somewhere in between. Really depends on Steph. If he can stay on/recreate the heater he’s on now, they certainly will be dangerous.

Well, they still play good defense, right? Or is that a hallmark of yesteryear teams?

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Imagine being mad about praise being heaped on a player that put up a stat line that no player in the history of the NBA has ever put up, in a game that his team won. Guess he didn’t do enough. Should’ve blocked 10 shots too for the quad.

When did I ever say I was mad. I’d like to see Denver do things in the playoffs in the West and giving Jokic nothing but praise for that performance is disingenuous. James Harden was putting up massive offensive stat lines in Houston and EVERYBODY gave him a hard time for his performance on the defensive end. The same thing can be said about Trae Young, and Luka Doncic. Everybody always tempers their elite offensive outputs with their defensive shortcomings. How come when somebody even mentions that about Jokic—it’s somehow hating? Is he immune from any and all criticism?

If you were watching that game, I don't think you would have the same criticisms, both because most of the post scoring wasn't necessarily his fault (or like I said, Plumlee scoring 10 points when they were down more than 10 in the last minute of overtime), and because his fault is usually in containing ball handlers in the drop. Last night that wasn't a huge problem as the Suns were resorting to a lot more iso but they were doubling more than usual.

And it is also disingenuous to think that any player in modern basketball could be both an offensive fulcrum to the level that Jokic is AND be a defensive stalwart. More than any player in the history of the NBA (due to his skill offensively and the reliance on pick and roll in the NBA, defensively), he is the focus of nearly every possession on the court. That's why they play drop for most of the game, which he is not as good with - saves his energy while letting him play 37 minutes a game or whatever.

When the game matters, the Nuggets have been somewhere between good and elite defensively for a while now. In the clutch, this season they are 12th in the NBA defensively, last year they were second, title year they were third.

I watched the game from start to finish. I saw Richards scoring with ease with little to no resistance. I’m not expecting Jokic to be a defensive stallwart—I’m expecting the best big man in the game (a guy that has size and decent quickness) to at least be somewhat of a force on the defensive end. You can say all you want—but Richards and Plumless have no business scoring 36 points on nearly 80% from the field under any circumstances. The only way they put up that kind of production is if there is little to no resistance from the person defending them. We watched the same game—and that’s what I saw. Also, for everybody in this forum—I’m not a Jokic hater. I think he’s the best player in the league, and even if he retired at the end of this season—I’d probably have him top 10ish of all time if he won a second ring—and he’s still top 15-20ish all time for me even if he didn’t win a second one. If he wins more than 3 rings—I’d probably have him Mount Rushmorish. If the Nuggets are going to win a ring this season—they are going to need more defense from Jokic. This is not the same team that had KCP and Bruce Brown that was able to cover up some of his defensive deficiencies. In any case, I’ve derailed the thread enough. If you all want to continue to glaze him and put him above criticism—that’s fine.

 

[msudaisy26]

Am I foolish to think Golden State might also pose some problems in the West or are they an afterthought?

Somewhere in between. Really depends on Steph. If he can stay on/recreate the heater he’s on now, they certainly will be dangerous.

I love the Warriors and follow them closely. I would be surprised if they won a series and stunned if they made any type of noise.

I love Curry and thought he had an argument for greatest PG ever, but these last few years have put a damper on that and need to be held against him.

 

[Desert_Power]

Feels like they got Luka defending the shooter on pretty much every shot down the stretch to the end the half.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Am I foolish to think Golden State might also pose some problems in the West or are they an afterthought?

Somewhere in between. Really depends on Steph. If he can stay on/recreate the heater he’s on now, they certainly will be dangerous.

I love the Warriors and follow them closely. I would be surprised if they won a series and stunned if they made any type of noise.

I love Curry and thought he had an argument for greatest PG ever, but these last few years have put a damper on that and need to be held against him.

Huh? How have they put a damper? He won a title 3 years ago with Wiggins as the 2nd best player on the team.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Just saw this stat breakdown about Joker’s performance last night:

At 10:22 left in the 3rd quarter, Jokic logged his 29th triple-double of the season.

He had 13/10/10 at that moment in time.

THEN...after logging that triple-double...

He had ANOTHER triple-double!

18/11/12 the rest of the game.

This should count as his 29th and 30th.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

The ESPN studio group is so bad. The TNT guys have made it impossible for anyone else trying to do that job.

 

[Desert_Power]

The ESPN studio group is so bad. The TNT guys have made it impossible for anyone else trying to do that job.

ESPN doesn't have to spend millions on people like Perkins though (just a guess)

 

[Frostillicus]

falling down after shooting a 3 when you aren't touched needs to be a tech. call it the "Jayson Tatum Rule"

 

[GOB]

Wait, Jrue Holiday is playing? I thought he had hammer finger or something

 

[brun]

falling down after shooting a 3 when you aren't touched needs to be a tech. call it the "Jayson Tatum Rule"

Maybe I missed it but I can't remember seeing Tatum do this. I know I've plenty of other players do it though.

 

[msudaisy26]

Am I foolish to think Golden State might also pose some problems in the West or are they an afterthought?

Somewhere in between. Really depends on Steph. If he can stay on/recreate the heater he’s on now, they certainly will be dangerous.

I love the Warriors and follow them closely. I would be surprised if they won a series and stunned if they made any type of noise.

I love Curry and thought he had an argument for greatest PG ever, but these last few years have put a damper on that and need to be held against him.

Huh? How have they put a damper? He won a title 3 years ago with Wiggins as the 2nd best player on the team.

Look at all the years around it. They are barely 500 and have missed the playoffs in a league where over half the teams make the playoffs andvthe other half tank and don't try.

It isn't a good look.

Edit: just because Wiggins sucks before and after 2022 doesn't change the fact he was awesome that year.

 

[msudaisy26]

Luka seems too young to have back problems all the time.