Yo Mama
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Neither was drafter by Detroit.
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2025-26 NBA Thread: manager at job site annoyed Kawhi hasn't shown up again (7 Viewers)
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jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Ahh—my bad. Didn’t realize that was a pre-requisite. Was thinking it was just an all time Pistons roster by position. Needless to say—I’m not a Drummond fan either—so there was also that. lol
SWC
Bromigo
milwaukee bucks
guard ray allen hof and sidney moncrief hof
back up guard kris middleton 3x all star nba champ and brandon jennings just because of bucks in 6
centers kareem abdul jabar hof and giannis anteaternintendo will be hof
forward alex english hof and bobby dandrige hof
back up forwards marques johnson 5x all star 3x all nba all rookie and terry cummings 2x all star 2x all nba all rookie and roy
This would be a pretty damned good team take that to the bank bromigos
guard ray allen hof and sidney moncrief hof
back up guard kris middleton 3x all star nba champ and brandon jennings just because of bucks in 6
centers kareem abdul jabar hof and giannis anteaternintendo will be hof
forward alex english hof and bobby dandrige hof
back up forwards marques johnson 5x all star 3x all nba all rookie and terry cummings 2x all star 2x all nba all rookie and roy
This would be a pretty damned good team take that to the bank bromigos
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
It may be difficult for some to understand that when you quickly glance at that GSW lineup 
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Chris Mullin:It may be difficult for some to understand that when you quickly glance at that GSW lineup
SWC
Bromigo
well in fairness the all timers at their current ages might be better than what the bucks roll out this year take that to the bank shot bromama
Yup - Pistons is pretty much the current roster and has a gaping hole at PF. Bruce Brown and KCP would probably still slip in there. Is Khris Middleton still a decent player?
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Rick Barry, Wilt, ParishChris Mullin:It may be difficult for some to understand that when you quickly glance at that GSW lineup
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
Wanna draft Kobe Bryant? noRick Barry, Wilt, ParishChris Mullin:It may be difficult for some to understand that when you quickly glance at that GSW lineup
Wanna draft Larry Bird? no
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Luke Kornet?
Jayrod
Footballguy
Oh snap, forgot he wasn't with them initially.
Center is a problem for Boston in real life as well.
I'm most bummed about losing Holiday, but Kornet is #2. They should have done more to keep him.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Updated Boston
PG - Terry Rozier, Peyton Pritchard
SG - Aaron Nesmith, Marcus Smart
SF - Jaylen Brown, Sam Hauser
PF - Jayson Tatum, Grant Williams
C - Robert Williams, Daniel Theis
Center is a problem as TimeLord can't stay healthy (played only 61 games over last 3 seasons) and Theis is a shell of the average player he once was.
ETA: I do like the depth at the other positions, though. That's a really nice bench at the 1-4 positions.
Capella
Footballguy
Same to you! Fantasy draft this weekend so I can fail to win for the 16th year in a row.
I may try to cobble that together for the Magic. Dwight at PF?
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Pistons don’t have Bird rights. Looks like the most they can offer is $7.2 million. Other teams could beat that.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Money available more than DET apparently:
BKN: $15M in cap space
CHA: $14.1M NTMLE
CHI: $14.1M NTMLE
IND: $13.5M of NTMLE
MIA: $7.3M of NTMLE
OKC: $8.5M of NTMLE
SAC: $7.3M of NTMLE
WAS: $14.1M NTMLE
BKN: $15M in cap space
CHA: $14.1M NTMLE
CHI: $14.1M NTMLE
IND: $13.5M of NTMLE
MIA: $7.3M of NTMLE
OKC: $8.5M of NTMLE
SAC: $7.3M of NTMLE
WAS: $14.1M NTMLE
Kev4029
Footballguy
With everything that is going on in his life, I would be blown away if anybody offers him more than a one year contract. One of the teams might offer him a little more next season in a one year deal but I think long term (which is probably not the way he is looking at it because of his... issues), Detroit is such a great fit for him. Next offseason he would have early-bird rights and that could (if they so chose) give him a little more than the non-tax MLE.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Good points. I was thinking a bad team could sign him and flip him to a good team at the deadline. However, not having Bird rights for the following year could be an issue.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I had forgotten about his money problems. I just reread some of that stuff. It would be hard from him to turn down multiple millions more this year to stay with Detroit if such an offer comes.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
At this point, who?
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I guess that’s who…
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Charlotte, Brooklyn, Washington and okc seem pretty unlikely to make an offer and he does not seem like a heat culture kind of guy.
Maybe sac would be an intriguing option considering the pistons already got Robinson, but if the money is the same, seems like it would not worth getting into that cluster****
You would know better than me if Chicago would be interested . I guess it’s possible, so they seem like the only real threat to me.
Maybe sac would be an intriguing option considering the pistons already got Robinson, but if the money is the same, seems like it would not worth getting into that cluster****
You would know better than me if Chicago would be interested . I guess it’s possible, so they seem like the only real threat to me.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Forgot the Kings brought in Schroeder who wouldn’t directly overlap, but their backcourt is pretty jammed, so seems unlikely they would be interested unless they ended up swinging that monk for Kuminga deal. And still not sure that situation makes much sense for Beasley if the money is the same
Kev4029
Footballguy
He does seem like a Charlotte culture kind of guy... They probably wouldn't want to bring him in over Knueppel though.
Sacramento is looking to dump a better version of a similar player (Monk) and they are probably going to pay Westbrook more than the minimum because they are stupid, so I don't think it'll work out there at all.
Of the others....
BKN: $15M in cap space - They are looking to lose. The only way they are involved is if somebody is paying them to use their cap space for one year to make room for the other team to sign Beasley.
CHI: $14.1M NTMLE - as you said, this is the one that kind of makes some sense. He'd be a big upgrade on Huerter.
IND: $13.5M of NTMLE - They actually don't have this full 13.5 available because they are $6m from the tax and they definitely aren't going over.
MIA: $7.3M of NTMLE - $2m from the tax and overlaps way too much with Powell and Herro
OKC: $8.5M of NTMLE - $1m from the tax and a bad fit culturally.
WAS: $14.1M NTMLE - no reason to sign him other than to flip him at the deadline.
If Detroit offers a one year $7m contract, I think its incredibly likely that is where he ends up. If he gets his life in order, he'll be 29 next offseason and would be a reasonable 3/45 type contract guy.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
He was cleared of gambling charges. He still has some other stuff going on.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Same as day one. The dude was a mess before he got to Detroit. If the Browns were a basketball team, they would have already signed him to a big contract.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Bulls are $38.6 under the tax line. They could go after Beasley and still have enough money for Giddey. They would be out of roster spaces but cutting Jevon Carter wouldn't be a big deal.
My gut tells me they wouldn't be interested due to off-court stuff and questionable long-term fit. Plus, it does add to payroll. However, I could certainly make the case that they should -- particularly with an eye on flipping him. Overall, I'd say it's possible but probably not likely.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Not same as day one. He is getting worse, a lot worse. I wouldn't want him around a young team.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
He’s technically not cleared, the statement was that he is not the target, so it seems like there is at least a non-zero chance that the gambling thing still lingers in some way
the moops
Footballguy
Mine is better
Marcus Smart, Payton Pritchard
Aaron Nesmith, Sam Hauser
Jaylen Brown, Grant Williams
Jayson Tatum, Guerschon Yabusele
Robert Williams III, Kelly Olynyk
identikit
Footballguy
In kind of NBA news, Rusillo looks to be leaving the Ringer for Barstool:
frontofficesports.com
Ryen Russillo Leaving Ringer, Dave Portnoy to Invest in New Biz
Portnoy and Barstool Sports are expected to invest in Russillo's new digital company. Sources tell FOS the deal is on the "five-yard line."
frontofficesports.com
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I was thinking about this. Can you name an NBA player under 30 years old who is considered a good midrange shooter but not good at threes? I'm sure there are some but nobody comes to mind immediately.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I assume the Charlotte space is just waiting to pick up a salary dump in Jan/Feb.
Kev4029
Footballguy
The first name that came to mind for me is SGA - takes over half of his shots outside of the restricted zone and inside of three. He's more okay from three than either good or bad, so maybe that disqualifies him from this discussion. Morant and Fox are kind of in that prototype as well. There are probably a couple other PGs that are something of that type.
Devin Booker is kind of like SGA in that he is probably more of decent than bad three point shooter but a great midrange dude. Kind of more Kobe than Derozan in that sense.
Paolo Banchero's stats don't particularly reflect that he is a great mid range guy, but I think in reality he is while shooting 32% for his career from three. Outside of SGA, I think he fits the idea the best.
identikit
Footballguy
Doris Burke demoted from the ESPN finals announcing:
www.si.com
ESPN Makes Decision on Doris Burke's Role in NBA Finals Coverage
Doris Burke has been demoted from ESPN's NBA Finals broadcast team, with Tim Legler set to replace her.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I've been a big Burke supporter through the years but she was not good last season. I don't know if it was because she was just trying too hard, has gotten too old, had something else going on personally or what. I was expecting her to do well but she was just awkward way too often.Doris Burke demoted from the ESPN finals announcing:
ESPN Makes Decision on Doris Burke's Role in NBA Finals Coverage
Doris Burke has been demoted from ESPN's NBA Finals broadcast team, with Tim Legler set to replace her.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
I think her pairing with Richard Jefferson didn’t work well. She is all substance and no style and RJ is basically the opposite.I've been a big Burke supporter through the years but she was not good last season. I don't know if it was because she was just trying too hard, has gotten too old, had something else going on personally or what. I was expecting her to do well but she was just awkward way too often.Doris Burke demoted from the ESPN finals announcing:
ESPN Makes Decision on Doris Burke's Role in NBA Finals Coverage
Doris Burke has been demoted from ESPN's NBA Finals broadcast team, with Tim Legler set to replace her.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I'm generally not a fan of three person booths for in game. It becomes a competition for attention which doesn't serve the viewer. It devolves into sound bytes instead of analysis or insight, which tends to emphasize whatever weaknesses the announcers have.I think her pairing with Richard Jefferson didn’t work well. She is all substance and no style and RJ is basically the opposite.I've been a big Burke supporter through the years but she was not good last season. I don't know if it was because she was just trying too hard, has gotten too old, had something else going on personally or what. I was expecting her to do well but she was just awkward way too often.Doris Burke demoted from the ESPN finals announcing:
ESPN Makes Decision on Doris Burke's Role in NBA Finals Coverage
Doris Burke has been demoted from ESPN's NBA Finals broadcast team, with Tim Legler set to replace her.
identikit
Footballguy
I think her pairing with Richard Jefferson didn’t work well. She is all substance and no style and RJ is basically the opposite.I've been a big Burke supporter through the years but she was not good last season. I don't know if it was because she was just trying too hard, has gotten too old, had something else going on personally or what. I was expecting her to do well but she was just awkward way too often.Doris Burke demoted from the ESPN finals announcing:
ESPN Makes Decision on Doris Burke's Role in NBA Finals Coverage
Doris Burke has been demoted from ESPN's NBA Finals broadcast team, with Tim Legler set to replace her.
Funny I think the the reverse for those two
Kev4029
Footballguy
I'm happy for Denver Nuggets legend, Tim Legler.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Yeah, it really is this. Been saying it for a while. It molds guys like Jefferson or Riddick (who obviously know tons about their game) into more of a yelling hot-take artist. They're completely unbearable in my ears. Really is the ESPN model though.I'm generally not a fan of three person booths for in game. It becomes a competition for attention which doesn't serve the viewer. It devolves into sound bytes instead of analysis or insight, which tends to emphasize whatever weaknesses the announcers have.I think her pairing with Richard Jefferson didn’t work well. She is all substance and no style and RJ is basically the opposite.I've been a big Burke supporter through the years but she was not good last season. I don't know if it was because she was just trying too hard, has gotten too old, had something else going on personally or what. I was expecting her to do well but she was just awkward way too often.Doris Burke demoted from the ESPN finals announcing:
ESPN Makes Decision on Doris Burke's Role in NBA Finals Coverage
Doris Burke has been demoted from ESPN's NBA Finals broadcast team, with Tim Legler set to replace her.
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