2025 College Football Thread: James Franklin decides losing big games wasn’t quite enough (6 Viewers)

[bigbottom]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Not common but it happens more than you think.

Like Illinois with an S.

 

[Zeppelin]

After reading these last few pages, I can't wait for the football games to start.

 

[bigbottom]

After reading these last few pages, I can't wait for the football games to start.

This sentiment has been raised multiple times in this thread. It’s the off-season. There’s really nothing to talk about college football wise. So people talk about NIL or high school commitments or college football rivalries. We’re basically just killing time until the season starts.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

Duke is definitely hated in basketball but only partly for the success. A lot of it is the walmart fan that adopts them and talks trash. Their actual students are just fine and nothing like that group. The other part of it is Coach K's history of bullying and berating officials and his holier than thou attitude that he was better than everyone else. Also excusing and tolerating nonsense like Christian Laettner stomping a player. I don't sense the same hate for Jon Scheyer and his program whatsoever.

Alabama hate is definitely the success under Saban. And the S-E-C S-E-C crowd that thinks their programs should get propped up because of Alabama's success. That's the primary reason the entire SEC is hated.

Notre Dame's hate goes back years when playing on TV mattered (everyone is on TV now) and their NBC media deal. I think Lou Holtz was a big factor too. I don't think ND has been hated in the last 20 years nearly as much but that's probably because they've had plenty of down years.

I've never sensed USC was hated. But I'm not close enough to them to really know. Same for Texas or A&M. I know they hate each other but never sensed either was hated nationally.

I feel like right or wrong Ohio State is hated because they are seen as more dirty than even the dirty programs. At least before all this stuff is now out in the open. Now the hate is probably because they win so much. Never felt like Michigan was hated on an equal level but Harbaugh tried.

Clemson gets hate especially when they are in the top 5 because Dabo puts his faith out there and can get preachy and people don't like that.

Colorado has been hated because of Deion and his style. Nothing to do with the school or team history.

As a Florida fan i can dispute the bolded. We hated alabama waaaay before Saban ever got there. Id say it's more rooted in the fan base.
And the SEC-SEC chants didn't start until the B1G whining started about the SEC bias. Is there bias? Sure. Its money driven. But i will absolutely (sort of cheer) for alabama against Ohio state.

Nothing you mentioned but re: admissions standards....
My mom was UF alumni, my grades and SAT weren't horrible but I am out of state. Didn't even sniff getting admitted. Athletes absolutely get relaxed standards of admittance. Everywhere.

During my recruiting visits for soccer, coaches admitted that schools wanted me due to raising their program GPA and scores. I could've gotten a scholarship as a semi-fast, kinda skilled soccer player just to boost some lower D1 or D2's overall scores. I'm certain there is a decent correlation to kickers getting scholarships....if they have a 3.75 or higher.

 

[Zeppelin]

After reading these last few pages, I can't wait for the football games to start.

This sentiment has been raised multiple times in this thread. It’s the off-season. There’s really nothing to talk about college football wise. So people talk about NIL or high school commitments or college football rivalries. We’re basically just killing time until the season starts.

I was referring to the Notre Dame academics part.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

If you think about it there are many good reasons why a coach isn't going to outright say "I am going to LSU because I can't recruit the players I want to get at ND and academics is a big part of that." as you are basically pooing on your new University's academics.

This is the interesting part to me. If you're an alumni, fan or booster, why do you care about high academic standards for your football players? You want these kids to win games, not nobels. I don't mean to call you out personally because I appreciate your perspective, but when I hear someone bragging on how rigorous their academic standards are and how smart their football players are, I want to say - why don't you give up your scholarships and NIL and then see if you can beat Harvard?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I have little doubt that ND has among the toughest academic standards of top football programs. I am somewhat skeptical that it is to the extent being applied here, and several of the hardline stances on that front are either verifiably false or very misleading.

For instance, Chadstromas statement that Notre Dame has minimum standards that they will not bend for athletes.

Sure, while technically true, this is also true for most universities. Further, Notre Dame's minimum standards are not particularly high. They publish this info readily on their website. Freshmen have to maintain a GPA of 1.7, and Sophomore and above have to maintain a 2.0 or better.

This is not particularly rigorous, nor unusual. For instance, it is Florida law that athletes can't participate in sports at public universities unless they maintain a 2.0 GPA. So right off the bat schools like Florida, FSU, UCF, etc actually have a slightly more rigorous minimum GPA for athletes than ND.

Of course, that doesnt' account for the actual majors etc. I'm sure at Florida or FSU they're more than willing to take on an academically challenged recruit that they can privately tudor to a 2.1 GPA in some BS major. Maybe ND is less apt to do that kind of thing, and it wouldn't surprise me, but I can't comment for sure. Nonetheless the statement that they have minimum standards they won't bend for athletes is not particularly meaningful nor uncommon.

As to active student GPA, these are what AI could dig up for them below. These are specific to the football team unless otherwise noted (some universities only report for all athletes and not just football). Of course notable that these are all self-reported, and again don't account for majors, where ND kids may be required to take on more serious ones rather than "get the football kid an A paths".

Unsurprisingly, ND is up at the top, 2nd overall for football teams specifically among the teams that actually report that.

Florida: 3.48
South Carolina: 3.45 (all sports, not just football)
Notre Dame: 3.40
Oregon: 3.37 (all sports)
Florida State: 3.31
Texas: 3.31
Michigan: 3.31 (all sports)
Alabama: 3.29
Penn St: 3.28 (all sports)
Miami: 3.28
Ohio State: 3.24
Tennessee: 3.18
Clemson: 3.18
Oklahoma: 3.06
Georgia: 3.02

I think a big difference is that a lot of the other schools (but not all of them) have majors they've developed specifically for academically challenged athletes (like "General Studies"). Notre Dame does not offer these majors and has a much more traditional majors list to select from that doesn't seem to include any that were created with the intent of getting an athlete on the field. Florida also does not have loophole majors but scanning through the student athletes the football players are a lot more likely to be in the easy/generic ones like Business and Sports management whereas with ND you see a lot more in engineering, etc.

But the notion that they are hamstrung from being able to bring on a top recruit that struggles academically doesn't appear to have merit, as limping along with a 2.1 GPA in Marketing or "Management & Organization" is still within the bounds of their requirements, and there are probably a few doing it as ND's self reported metrics are that 25% of their football roster has a sub-3.0 GPA.

 

[WDIK2]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Goes back to the Big 8. Probably farther.

OU
NU
CU
MU
OSU
ISU
KSU
KU

At one time or another, they all probably had that on their helmets.

 

[Joe Bryant]

The grade point average is interesting.

There seems to be an assumption that an athlete having a 2.0 average at Notre Dame or Stanford requires the same ability and effort as a 2.0 average at Ohio State or Texas.

I don't know that's the case. I've always thought some schools were more difficult than others to keep similar grade point averages.

 

[JohnnyU]

The grade point average is interesting.

There seems to be an assumption that an athlete having a 2.0 average at Notre Dame or Stanford requires the same ability and effort as a 2.0 average at Ohio State or Texas.

I don't know that's the case. I've always thought some schools were more difficult than others to keep similar grade point averages.

You would be correct in that line of thinking.

 

[Chadstroma]

The grade point average is interesting.

There seems to be an assumption that an athlete having a 2.0 average at Notre Dame or Stanford requires the same ability and effort as a 2.0 average at Ohio State or Texas.

I don't know that's the case. I've always thought some schools were more difficult than others to keep similar grade point averages.

NCAA requires 2.3 average in core classes to play.

ND requires 12 unit course load in Fall... others like Ohio St requires only 9 units along with SEC schools (all maybe?).

 

[CletiusMaximus]

The grade point average is interesting.

There seems to be an assumption that an athlete having a 2.0 average at Notre Dame or Stanford requires the same ability and effort as a 2.0 average at Ohio State or Texas.

I don't know that's the case. I've always thought some schools were more difficult than others to keep similar grade point averages.

One thing is certain - maintaining a 2.0 at any of these schools is far easier as a scholarship athlete as compared to a normal student. If a starting QB is sitting on a D at midterm I’m sure he’ll get personal tutoring and the professor will likely be having a discussion with someone from the athletic department about how the grade can be improved.

 

[Sparky Polastri]

I'll celebrate when the first football is kicked off. Until then, rename this the "Notre Dame signed a guy" thread and wake me up, when the summer ends

Recruitment stuff was a bit more interesting when you thought the guys would at least stick around a couple of years.

Yeah, now it's not "who did I get?", it's "who can I keep?" It just seems pointless.

I can't wait until they professionalize the conferences into a league and have a clear salary cap with standard contracts.

People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice.

There are some cool ways to do it too. Promotion relegation, multiple tiers of league. Ways that if a higher tier wants the player transfer is ok, but there's no breaking a contract to go from Ohio St to Alabama.

And if you and the school will only commit to two years, then after two years move wherever you want.

Hard habit to break for boosters though. Even if there is a formal rules and all that other crap, are boosters gonna stop greasing the palms of the dynamos?

 

[Chadstroma]

And here we go.... the completion of the three days of commits I was expecting.

Four-star WR Brayden Robinson commits to Notre Dame over Miami, goes in depth on decision

Red Oak (Texas) High class of 2026 wide receiver Brayden Robinson announced his commitment to Notre Dame on Sunday evening.

www.on3.com

 

[Chadstroma]

Sure, while technically true, this is also true for most universities. Further, Notre Dame's minimum standards are not particularly high. They publish this info readily on their website. Freshmen have to maintain a GPA of 1.7, and Sophomore and above have to maintain a 2.0 or better.

That are the minimum retention standards for the general student body. You don't do that then you get kicked out of the school.

The NCAA requires 2.3 from core classes to play. I can't say that ND has a set standard above that but they certainly would not be playing if they did not make the NCAA standard.

“There are standards, there are high expectations, and you’ve got to meet them. That’s not for everybody.” — Brian Kelly

“There are rules you have to follow in an environment like Notre Dame. And you can’t cross those lines..” —Brian Kelly

In a Sports Illustrated article, Bryan Driskell wrote:

“During Kelly's tenure he constantly talked about how winning was so hard at Notre Dame, and how stumbling block after stumbling block kept his program from being successful... It was the academic standards that forced those decisions.”

“The caliber of player one must be to get a scholarship offer to play for Notre Dame is much higher than it has ever been.” —Sports Illustrated

According to Bleacher Report:

“For every success story you find on the gridiron at Notre Dame, you seem to find just as many surrounding the stars who wanted to play for Notre Dame but couldn’t get in.”

 

[Chadstroma]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Not common but it happens more than you think.

Like Illinois with an S.

There is no noise in Illinois.

 

[Instinctive]

I'll celebrate when the first football is kicked off. Until then, rename this the "Notre Dame signed a guy" thread and wake me up, when the summer ends

Recruitment stuff was a bit more interesting when you thought the guys would at least stick around a couple of years.

Yeah, now it's not "who did I get?", it's "who can I keep?" It just seems pointless.

I can't wait until they professionalize the conferences into a league and have a clear salary cap with standard contracts.

People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice.

There are some cool ways to do it too. Promotion relegation, multiple tiers of league. Ways that if a higher tier wants the player transfer is ok, but there's no breaking a contract to go from Ohio St to Alabama.

And if you and the school will only commit to two years, then after two years move wherever you want.

Hard habit to break for boosters though. Even if there is a formal rules and all that other crap, are boosters gonna stop greasing the palms of the dynamos?

"People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that, but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice."

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Sure, while technically true, this is also true for most universities. Further, Notre Dame's minimum standards are not particularly high. They publish this info readily on their website. Freshmen have to maintain a GPA of 1.7, and Sophomore and above have to maintain a 2.0 or better.

That are the minimum retention standards for the general student body. You don't do that then you get kicked out of the school.

The NCAA requires 2.3 from core classes to play. I can't say that ND has a set standard above that but they certainly would not be playing if they did not make the NCAA standard.

“There are standards, there are high expectations, and you’ve got to meet them. That’s not for everybody.” — Brian Kelly

“There are rules you have to follow in an environment like Notre Dame. And you can’t cross those lines..” —Brian Kelly

In a Sports Illustrated article, Bryan Driskell wrote:

“During Kelly's tenure he constantly talked about how winning was so hard at Notre Dame, and how stumbling block after stumbling block kept his program from being successful... It was the academic standards that forced those decisions.”

“The caliber of player one must be to get a scholarship offer to play for Notre Dame is much higher than it has ever been.” —Sports Illustrated

According to Bleacher Report:

“For every success story you find on the gridiron at Notre Dame, you seem to find just as many surrounding the stars who wanted to play for Notre Dame but couldn’t get in.”

The NCAA 2.3 is for core classes only I believe.

Regardless, I don't understand why you're implying that would make that particular point better, instead of worse. Yes it is semantically true that ND holds their athletes to the same minimum standards of the rest of the student body, but if the rest of the student body's standards are well below the minimum standard required by the NCAA to play anyway, then that has no real effect. The NCAA's minimum standard will prevent the player from playing long before ND's minimum standards do, whether they're a ND player or an Alabama player.

As to Brian Kelly, again I don't doubt that ND tends towards the high end of academics, but it's worth noting that Kelly (in addition to being a whiner/excuse maker in general) is using a point of comparison of LSU, who is way over on the low end even relative to the other teams being compared here. LSU's team GPA is 2.8. You can compare that to the list above. It's likely that Kelly would be whining about the same thing if he were at Florida or Texas or a bunch of those other schools, who all generally seem to have much higher academic standards than LSU.

The Sports Illustrated quote only compares ND to themselves, not anyone else. It's talking about their standards relative to scholarship offers to play for Notre Dame. Yet here is a list I found of the overlap of scholarship offers by school with the nation's top recruits (granted, from 2 years ago). ND is at 98%, up near the top, meaning they were making scholarship offers to all of those guys just as much as any of the other big schools were.

Again, I don't doubt that ND's academic standards are near or even at the top. And seemingly in pretty much every category, no less. It just seems like the amount is being exaggerated, and quite a few of the points meant to be big gotchas that prove how much harder it is seem to be very debunkable, some of them pretty openly.

It's very plausible and probably likely that ND does have stricter standards for initial admission than most of the other football schools, as that is all private so extremely difficult to compare empirically. Though they do certainly lower standards on initial admission relative to their regular student body (or else would not have such high overlap on scholarship offers to recruits with all of the other top schools who do the same).

One major difference is that ND does require new admissions to generally pass the admissions requirements of the admissions office, though with lowered requirements for athletes and also the allowal of coach intervention in the admissions process (IE coaches can advocate for the incoming student with the admissions board, who can make exceptions beyond even the lowered standards if they choose to).

Texas, Ohio State, Florida, etc usually have a completely separate admissions board specifically for athletes, which is much more lenient compared to ND's process.

However there is a complete other level to that with schools like Stanford, as the athletes there essentially have to apply as regular students through the regular admissions process without any exceptions or different standards, and no advocation from coaches. They basically have to be able to get in as a regular student all on their own first, which is just a completely other level.

 

[Schmeabs]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Not common but it happens more than you think.

Like Illinois with an S.

There is no noise in Illinois.

Oregon hasn't gone anywhere

 

[Sparky Polastri]

I'll celebrate when the first football is kicked off. Until then, rename this the "Notre Dame signed a guy" thread and wake me up, when the summer ends

Recruitment stuff was a bit more interesting when you thought the guys would at least stick around a couple of years.

Yeah, now it's not "who did I get?", it's "who can I keep?" It just seems pointless.

I can't wait until they professionalize the conferences into a league and have a clear salary cap with standard contracts.

People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice.

There are some cool ways to do it too. Promotion relegation, multiple tiers of league. Ways that if a higher tier wants the player transfer is ok, but there's no breaking a contract to go from Ohio St to Alabama.

And if you and the school will only commit to two years, then after two years move wherever you want.

Hard habit to break for boosters though. Even if there is a formal rules and all that other crap, are boosters gonna stop greasing the palms of the dynamos?

"People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that, but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice."

So, the way it was before the transfer portal then. That worked well, especially for the athletes. Don't know why we think doing the same thing again is going to produce a different result.

 

[kupcho1]

So in the interest of not losing my mind in all of the recruit and academic standards discussion, I took a look at the opening day schedule. Didn't there used to be a marquee game? Here's what I found for opening day (Aug 23)

Idaho State @ UNLV
Iowa State @ Kansas State
Fresno State @ Kansas
Sam Houston @ Western Kentucky
Stanford @ Hawai'i

No offense to the fine teams listed above, but where's the sizzle?

 

[Idiot Boxer]

August 23 really isn't traditional opening day. Labor Day weekend has the sizzle.

 

[Instinctive]

I'll celebrate when the first football is kicked off. Until then, rename this the "Notre Dame signed a guy" thread and wake me up, when the summer ends

Recruitment stuff was a bit more interesting when you thought the guys would at least stick around a couple of years.

Yeah, now it's not "who did I get?", it's "who can I keep?" It just seems pointless.

I can't wait until they professionalize the conferences into a league and have a clear salary cap with standard contracts.

People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice.

There are some cool ways to do it too. Promotion relegation, multiple tiers of league. Ways that if a higher tier wants the player transfer is ok, but there's no breaking a contract to go from Ohio St to Alabama.

And if you and the school will only commit to two years, then after two years move wherever you want.

Hard habit to break for boosters though. Even if there is a formal rules and all that other crap, are boosters gonna stop greasing the palms of the dynamos?

"People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that, but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice."

So, the way it was before the transfer portal then. That worked well, especially for the athletes. Don't know why we think doing the same thing again is going to produce a different result.

I feel like you didn't read my post at all. I'm not gonna keep trying.

 

[General Malaise]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

 

[General Malaise]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

 

[Joe Bryant]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

How do they say it?

 

[JohnnyU]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

"buh-luck-see". not "buh-lox-see"

 

[General Malaise]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

How do they say it?

Johnny U has it right. I worked with a gal who went to Northwestern and she argued with me that I was the one pronouncing it incorrectly. I had to tell her that I've been there and heard the locals pronounce it the way I was saying it. She swore up and down it was "Bil-LOOK-see".

 

[JohnnyU]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

How do they say it?

Johnny U has it right. I worked with a gal who went to Northwestern and she argued with me that I was the one pronouncing it incorrectly. I had to tell her that I've been there and heard the locals pronounce it the way I was saying it. She swore up and down it was "Bil-LOOK-see".

I'm originally from Kentucky and people not from there mispronounce Louisville. It's "Lu-a-vul", not "Louie-ville", or less mispronounced "Louis-ville".

 

[Chadstroma]

"I can't stand this talk about commitments and academics.... let's get to the real college football conversation of how you correctly pronounce states and cities."

 

[General Malaise]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

How do they say it?

Johnny U has it right. I worked with a gal who went to Northwestern and she argued with me that I was the one pronouncing it incorrectly. I had to tell her that I've been there and heard the locals pronounce it the way I was saying it. She swore up and down it was "Bil-LOOK-see".

I'm originally from Kentucky and people not from there mispronounce Louisville. It's "Lu-a-vul", not "Louie-ville", or less mispronounced "Louis-ville".

Yeah, my dad was born there and so I'm well versed on the pronunciation but it's easy to see how people mess it up.

 

[General Malaise]

"I can't stand this talk about commitments and academics.... let's get to the real college football conversation of how you correctly pronounce states and cities."

I knew you'd come around, Shad.

 

[massraider]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

 

[Instinctive]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I always thought it was like or-again. Or-again.

 

[General Malaise]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I always thought it was like or-again. Or-again.

Yup, that's it! For some reason, I tell folks it's like saying "More Again". But when my wife's family says it wrong in their thick Michigan accents I just find it adorable and chuckle inside.

 

[Instinctive]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I always thought it was like or-again. Or-again.

Yup, that's it! For some reason, I tell folks it's like saying "More Again". But when my wife's family says it wrong in their thick Michigan accents I just find it adorable and chuckle inside.

You mean their Meeshigan accents??? I'm up in the UP right now it may as well be a foreign land.

 

[JohnnyU]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I've always pronounced it "Or-a-gun".

 

[General Malaise]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I always thought it was like or-again. Or-again.

Yup, that's it! For some reason, I tell folks it's like saying "More Again". But when my wife's family says it wrong in their thick Michigan accents I just find it adorable and chuckle inside.

You mean their Meeshigan accents??? I'm up in the UP right now it may as well be a foreign land.

Accents as thick as the mosquitos up there.

 

[Chadstroma]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I've always pronounced it "Or-a-gun".

Where you seeing an A in that?

 

[JohnnyU]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I've always pronounced it "Or-a-gun".

Where you seeing an A in that?

no, just how I pronounce it. The "e" sounds like a an "a". I wouldn't pronounce it "Or-e-gun". Maybe I'm pronouncing it wrong for all I know.

 

[Joe Bryant]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

"buh-luck-see". not "buh-lox-see"

Wow. I've never heard it buh-lox-see. But I'm close enough geographically people should get it right.

 

[JohnnyU]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

"buh-luck-see". not "buh-lox-see"

Wow. I've never heard it buh-lox-see. But I'm close enough geographically people should get it right.

Yeah, maybe I'm on those opiods they're talking about in that other thread

 

[Chadstroma]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I've always pronounced it "Or-a-gun".

Where you seeing an A in that?

no, just how I pronounce it. The "e" sounds like a an "a". I wouldn't pronounce it "Or-e-gun". Maybe I'm pronouncing it wrong for all I know.

You are.

 

[JohnnyU]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I've always pronounced it "Or-a-gun".

Where you seeing an A in that?

no, just how I pronounce it. The "e" sounds like a an "a". I wouldn't pronounce it "Or-e-gun". Maybe I'm pronouncing it wrong for all I know.

You are.

alrighty then

 

[WDIK2]

Side note for the OU fans, why is it OU when the name is University of Oklahoma?

So weird we were just talking about that.

I've never understood. Oregon, as I understand it, is UO.

The University of Kansas is also KU.

With zero actual knowledge, my assumption is that is just sounds better off the tongue.

Yep, we Oregon fans do not like it when others call Oregon OU. It is U of O.

People call is anything other than Oregon? They really should just change the name to Knight University though. Imagine the uniform possibilities.....

The other thing that annoys us is when pronounce Oregon wrong. It is pronounced Oregun, not Oregone.

I don't think I've heard many pronounce it Oregone. Is that a common thing?

Al Michaels can't pronounce it correctly. He is as good as there is in the world of sports' announcing and he's an 'OreGONE' guy. You'd think he'd know better.

My wife's family in Michigan can't pronounce it correctly either, but it's so darn adorable when they say it incorrectly that I don't have the heart to correct them. Just so Midwest nice that I would feel wrong to try and tell them how to pronounce it.

Everyone i knew in Mass said 'gone'. It's how I say it i think

I've always pronounced it "Or-a-gun".

Same.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

How do they say it?

Johnny U has it right. I worked with a gal who went to Northwestern and she argued with me that I was the one pronouncing it incorrectly. I had to tell her that I've been there and heard the locals pronounce it the way I was saying it. She swore up and down it was "Bil-LOOK-see".

I'm originally from Kentucky and people not from there mispronounce Louisville. It's "Lu-a-vul", not "Louie-ville", or less mispronounced "Louis-ville".

Guilty. I'm a Louie-ville guy and I know it's wrong.

 

[JohnnyU]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

How do they say it?

Johnny U has it right. I worked with a gal who went to Northwestern and she argued with me that I was the one pronouncing it incorrectly. I had to tell her that I've been there and heard the locals pronounce it the way I was saying it. She swore up and down it was "Bil-LOOK-see".

I'm originally from Kentucky and people not from there mispronounce Louisville. It's "Lu-a-vul", not "Louie-ville", or less mispronounced "Louis-ville".

Guilty. I'm a Louie-ville guy and I know it's wrong.

Actually, most of the country pronounces it like that. Lu-a-vul is mostly a Kentucky thing.

 

[General Malaise]

People in the midwest also can't pronounce "Biloxi" correctly.

How do they say it?

Johnny U has it right. I worked with a gal who went to Northwestern and she argued with me that I was the one pronouncing it incorrectly. I had to tell her that I've been there and heard the locals pronounce it the way I was saying it. She swore up and down it was "Bil-LOOK-see".

I'm originally from Kentucky and people not from there mispronounce Louisville. It's "Lu-a-vul", not "Louie-ville", or less mispronounced "Louis-ville".

Guilty. I'm a Louie-ville guy and I know it's wrong.

Actually, most of the country pronounces it like that. Lu-a-vul is mostly a Kentucky thing.

When my dad says it, it's 2 syllables.

 

[Sparky Polastri]

I'll celebrate when the first football is kicked off. Until then, rename this the "Notre Dame signed a guy" thread and wake me up, when the summer ends

Recruitment stuff was a bit more interesting when you thought the guys would at least stick around a couple of years.

Yeah, now it's not "who did I get?", it's "who can I keep?" It just seems pointless.

I can't wait until they professionalize the conferences into a league and have a clear salary cap with standard contracts.

People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice.

There are some cool ways to do it too. Promotion relegation, multiple tiers of league. Ways that if a higher tier wants the player transfer is ok, but there's no breaking a contract to go from Ohio St to Alabama.

And if you and the school will only commit to two years, then after two years move wherever you want.

Hard habit to break for boosters though. Even if there is a formal rules and all that other crap, are boosters gonna stop greasing the palms of the dynamos?

"People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that, but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice."

So, the way it was before the transfer portal then. That worked well, especially for the athletes. Don't know why we think doing the same thing again is going to produce a different result.

I feel like you didn't read my post at all. I'm not gonna keep trying.

I read it. I don't share the belief that any of the rules you came/come up with will outweigh "follow the money" as history has taught us time and time again.

 

[Instinctive]

I'll celebrate when the first football is kicked off. Until then, rename this the "Notre Dame signed a guy" thread and wake me up, when the summer ends

Recruitment stuff was a bit more interesting when you thought the guys would at least stick around a couple of years.

Yeah, now it's not "who did I get?", it's "who can I keep?" It just seems pointless.

I can't wait until they professionalize the conferences into a league and have a clear salary cap with standard contracts.

People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice.

There are some cool ways to do it too. Promotion relegation, multiple tiers of league. Ways that if a higher tier wants the player transfer is ok, but there's no breaking a contract to go from Ohio St to Alabama.

And if you and the school will only commit to two years, then after two years move wherever you want.

Hard habit to break for boosters though. Even if there is a formal rules and all that other crap, are boosters gonna stop greasing the palms of the dynamos?

"People can pay whatever they want booster wise on top of that, but contracts that are real and limit the ridiculous amount of transfer movement would be so nice."

So, the way it was before the transfer portal then. That worked well, especially for the athletes. Don't know why we think doing the same thing again is going to produce a different result.

I feel like you didn't read my post at all. I'm not gonna keep trying.

I read it. I don't share the belief that any of the rules you came/come up with will outweigh "follow the money" as history has taught us time and time again.

Yeah. I guess that's why all other professional sports leagues the players randomly move willy nilly. You're surely right.


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