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2025 Masters Thread - Was: Collin Morikawa will TIE FOR 14th at The Masters (1 Viewer)

What's the reasoning behind why everyone is so hyped on him?
Best ball striker, 2x major champion, playing great, only got better at augusta every year and supposedly has "fixed" the putting. Plus Scotty not playing the way he was going into the masters last year. I think Rory's odds dropping are more indicative of Scotty's play than Rory's play.
 
6-Tiered Pool (18th of 200 at TPC):
Rory / Cantlay / Straka / Keegan / Spaun / Glover

Leaning on strong iron play and fading LIV in general, other than maybe Rahm or Koepka straight up...also taking Scottie and JT straight up.
back to back hasn't happened since Tiger in 2000/2001, Scottie has 2 in 3 years but I don't think he makes it 3 in 4.

current bets are

$50 Morikawa at +1600
$2 on Day +8000
$1 Scott +15000, $1 McCarthy and English +20000
$10 Cam Smith +5500
$10 Fletwood +4000
$10 Koepka +3500
$10 JT +2000

I don't have a gambling problem....
You only bet 93 bucks! How can you have a gambling problem? :p
 
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So check this out, I texted a buddy in Vegas 1/2 hour ago to see if he can get me down on Xander. He says sure and that his book had X at 20-1. I took it right there and in a matter of minutes he sent a copy of the play. But at 25-1 (not 20-1)!

That is rare. 1.) For odds to change that much that fast (25%). 2.) IN my favor. 3.) On golf?

I mean what could have possibly occurred to make that happen? This isn't a sport where you get some phantom plunger coming in with a large sum on one that causes others to drop. The sheer size of the field doesn't present those scenarios. And bookmakers certainly aren't going to lower odds dramatically to align with "true" odds, or at least not by that amount.

The only thing I can figure is X simply didn't take much money leading up and we happen to just get lucky that this book was trying to fetch more money on him and whomever else was they had low exposure to.
For the majors, you usually see movement on the Sunday or Monday before the tournament, when the book shifts from futures to live odds. They typically improve at that point, then tighten at the top as the week goes on.
 
Guys, if Morikawa shoots 76 tomorrow I'm going to add "eventually" to the end of the thread title. Just letting you know now.
 
So check this out, I texted a buddy in Vegas 1/2 hour ago to see if he can get me down on Xander. He says sure and that his book had X at 20-1. I took it right there and in a matter of minutes he sent a copy of the play. But at 25-1 (not 20-1)!

That is rare. 1.) For odds to change that much that fast (25%). 2.) IN my favor. 3.) On golf?

I mean what could have possibly occurred to make that happen? This isn't a sport where you get some phantom plunger coming in with a large sum on one that causes others to drop. The sheer size of the field doesn't present those scenarios. And bookmakers certainly aren't going to lower odds dramatically to align with "true" odds, or at least not by that amount.

The only thing I can figure is X simply didn't take much money leading up and we happen to just get lucky that this book was trying to fetch more money on him and whomever else was they had low exposure to.
My guess is the bold.

Last I read, they are exposed on Bryson.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me in the least. Annoying word, but he is "trending" for sure, on multiple levels, so you knew this was coming from the masses. He went for 8K in this Calcutta. Some here might be in said Calcutta, btw.

Here's right around where some of the others went (pays out top 4):

Scheffler went for 13K
Rory 9
Colin 7
Rahm 6
Aber 6
Turner 4.2
Brooks 3.8
X 3.8
 
i do like Bhatia. that's a right to left golf course
One of the talking heads came on -- dude with the thick porn stache, former pro -- and was super high on Bhatia. I tried to get a piece of him, thinking he'd be overlooked, but no, people were onto him. Lefty must've helped and probably that analyst as well.
 
Whittled down my LIV guys to Koepka because he's done it and he can tune out the noise. And Niemann who just has a feathery short game I like; just love the way he swings 'em.

Got a tiny play on Bryson to be the 1st round leader at +2800. He's had nice starts here before and I've always found him interesting.

Same here with Koepka.

Took a foursome of Brooks, Day, Hatton (value play, did not plan on it), and a cheap DJ for the hell of it.

And Xander. Still surprised by the late line change to 25 - 1.
 
Entry #2
Scottie Scheffler - Salary: $11,900
Joaquin Niemann - Salary: $8,200
Patrick Cantlay - Salary: $8,000
Robert MacIntyre - Salary: $7,600
Russell Henley - Salary: $7,600 - Bhatia
Nick Taylor - Salary: $6,600 - Scott
I'm a go with your first instinct guy, but I switched out Henley for Bhatia and Taylor for Scott this morning. :shrug:
 
So check this out, I texted a buddy in Vegas 1/2 hour ago to see if he can get me down on Xander. He says sure and that his book had X at 20-1. I took it right there and in a matter of minutes he sent a copy of the play. But at 25-1 (not 20-1)!

That is rare. 1.) For odds to change that much that fast (25%). 2.) IN my favor. 3.) On golf?

I mean what could have possibly occurred to make that happen? This isn't a sport where you get some phantom plunger coming in with a large sum on one that causes others to drop. The sheer size of the field doesn't present those scenarios. And bookmakers certainly aren't going to lower odds dramatically to align with "true" odds, or at least not by that amount.

The only thing I can figure is X simply didn't take much money leading up and we happen to just get lucky that this book was trying to fetch more money on him and whomever else was they had low exposure to.

You sure it’s to win and not 1st round leader?
 
You think somebody is hitting a button for the bird noises. Like a producer is saying “hey give me some cardinal here”. Or is it just a soundtrack loop?

Quiet voice comes over the headphones “ok cue the bluejay……….now”
 
So check this out, I texted a buddy in Vegas 1/2 hour ago to see if he can get me down on Xander. He says sure and that his book had X at 20-1. I took it right there and in a matter of minutes he sent a copy of the play. But at 25-1 (not 20-1)!

That is rare. 1.) For odds to change that much that fast (25%). 2.) IN my favor. 3.) On golf?

I mean what could have possibly occurred to make that happen? This isn't a sport where you get some phantom plunger coming in with a large sum on one that causes others to drop. The sheer size of the field doesn't present those scenarios. And bookmakers certainly aren't going to lower odds dramatically to align with "true" odds, or at least not by that amount.

The only thing I can figure is X simply didn't take much money leading up and we happen to just get lucky that this book was trying to fetch more money on him and whomever else was they had low exposure to.
My guess is the bold.

Last I read, they are exposed on Bryson.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me in the least. Annoying word, but he is "trending" for sure, on multiple levels, so you knew this was coming from the masses. He went for 8K in this Calcutta. Some here might be in said Calcutta, btw.

Here's right around where some of the others went (pays out top 4):

Scheffler went for 13K
Rory 9
Colin 7
Rahm 6
Aber 6
Turner 4.2
Brooks 3.8
X 3.8
Great deals for Xander and Brooks.
 
7 of us draft every major, randomized draft order. I took Morikawa at 4, then Koepke, Zalatoris, Min Woo, Sergio, Phil. 1 player gets cut after each round. Lowest score to par of the 3 remaining wins, with an extra side pot for picking (and not cutting the winner). Let’s GO Morikawa!
 
You think somebody is hitting a button for the bird noises. Like a producer is saying “hey give me some cardinal here”. Or is it just a soundtrack loop?

Quiet voice comes over the headphones “ok cue the bluejay……….now”
Yes, bird noises (or "bird chirping") are added to the Masters golf broadcast. CBS has acknowledged that they augment the natural sounds at Augusta National Golf Club with pre-recorded bird sounds during their television coverage of the tournament.

This practice started in the 1990s and has become a well-known aspect of the Masters broadcast. The artificial bird sounds are meant to enhance the viewing experience and create a peaceful atmosphere that complements the visual beauty of Augusta National.

While there are real birds at Augusta National, the broadcasters supplement these natural sounds to ensure consistent ambient audio throughout the broadcast, regardless of actual bird activity or microphone placement during the tournament.
 
You think somebody is hitting a button for the bird noises. Like a producer is saying “hey give me some cardinal here”. Or is it just a soundtrack loop?

Quiet voice comes over the headphones “ok cue the bluejay……….now”
Yes, bird noises (or "bird chirping") are added to the Masters golf broadcast. CBS has acknowledged that they augment the natural sounds at Augusta National Golf Club with pre-recorded bird sounds during their television coverage of the tournament.

This practice started in the 1990s and has become a well-known aspect of the Masters broadcast. The artificial bird sounds are meant to enhance the viewing experience and create a peaceful atmosphere that complements the visual beauty of Augusta National.

While there are real birds at Augusta National, the broadcasters supplement these natural sounds to ensure consistent ambient audio throughout the broadcast, regardless of actual bird activity or microphone placement during the tournament.
Do you have a link for that? I have a buddy who must think all the trees are mic’d up for the birds or something.
 
Amazing what this place means to these guys. JT...a future Golf HOF'er...and playing well...looks like a nervous wreck starting the front on Thurs.
 
What's the reasoning behind why everyone is so hyped on him?
Best ball striker, 2x major champion, playing great, only got better at augusta every year and supposedly has "fixed" the putting. Plus Scotty not playing the way he was going into the masters last year. I think Rory's odds dropping are more indicative of Scotty's play than Rory's play.

Current live odds:

Scottie +280
Rory +600
Morikawa +1300

And while the current leader is probably not going to be the one donning the Green Jacket, German Stephan Jäger is at +4500 at the moment.

Courtesy DKNG.
 
You think somebody is hitting a button for the bird noises. Like a producer is saying “hey give me some cardinal here”. Or is it just a soundtrack loop?

Quiet voice comes over the headphones “ok cue the bluejay……….now”

Dude, it's probably way less elaborate than that. It's probably akin to those fake bird noises my mom would put in our Christmas trees growing up.
 
You think somebody is hitting a button for the bird noises. Like a producer is saying “hey give me some cardinal here”. Or is it just a soundtrack loop?

Quiet voice comes over the headphones “ok cue the bluejay……….now”
Yes, bird noises (or "bird chirping") are added to the Masters golf broadcast. CBS has acknowledged that they augment the natural sounds at Augusta National Golf Club with pre-recorded bird sounds during their television coverage of the tournament.

This practice started in the 1990s and has become a well-known aspect of the Masters broadcast. The artificial bird sounds are meant to enhance the viewing experience and create a peaceful atmosphere that complements the visual beauty of Augusta National.

While there are real birds at Augusta National, the broadcasters supplement these natural sounds to ensure consistent ambient audio throughout the broadcast, regardless of actual bird activity or microphone placement during the tournament.
Do you have a link for that? I have a buddy who must think all the trees are mic’d up for the birds or something.
I broke the cardinal sin of using ChatGPT and didn't verify.

I'm still not sure people ask the right question surrounding this.

Does Augusta pipe in sounds? Probably not
Does CBS enhance it's broadcast with recorded bird sounds? Probably
 
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So check this out, I texted a buddy in Vegas 1/2 hour ago to see if he can get me down on Xander. He says sure and that his book had X at 20-1. I took it right there and in a matter of minutes he sent a copy of the play. But at 25-1 (not 20-1)!

That is rare. 1.) For odds to change that much that fast (25%). 2.) IN my favor. 3.) On golf?

I mean what could have possibly occurred to make that happen? This isn't a sport where you get some phantom plunger coming in with a large sum on one that causes others to drop. The sheer size of the field doesn't present those scenarios. And bookmakers certainly aren't going to lower odds dramatically to align with "true" odds, or at least not by that amount.

The only thing I can figure is X simply didn't take much money leading up and we happen to just get lucky that this book was trying to fetch more money on him and whomever else was they had low exposure to.

You sure it’s to win and not 1st round leader?
Just saw this, you made me nervous. Yeah, definitely to win. He texted a pic of the ticket. From Green Valley Ranch Casino (local spot). First one was done from his app but he only had 100 in his acct. Second is an actual ticket. That's why we know the odds changed, he first checked / screenshot the app. After all this, watch, Xander won't make the cut.
 
What's the reasoning behind why everyone is so hyped on him?
Best ball striker, 2x major champion, playing great, only got better at augusta every year and supposedly has "fixed" the putting. Plus Scotty not playing the way he was going into the masters last year. I think Rory's odds dropping are more indicative of Scotty's play than Rory's play.

How's his putting been so far today? Haven't been able to watch. This is my chief concern with him but agree with your points overall. Just curious if those following closer have any reports here...
 
So check this out, I texted a buddy in Vegas 1/2 hour ago to see if he can get me down on Xander. He says sure and that his book had X at 20-1. I took it right there and in a matter of minutes he sent a copy of the play. But at 25-1 (not 20-1)!

That is rare. 1.) For odds to change that much that fast (25%). 2.) IN my favor. 3.) On golf?

I mean what could have possibly occurred to make that happen? This isn't a sport where you get some phantom plunger coming in with a large sum on one that causes others to drop. The sheer size of the field doesn't present those scenarios. And bookmakers certainly aren't going to lower odds dramatically to align with "true" odds, or at least not by that amount.

The only thing I can figure is X simply didn't take much money leading up and we happen to just get lucky that this book was trying to fetch more money on him and whomever else was they had low exposure to.
My guess is the bold.

Last I read, they are exposed on Bryson.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me in the least. Annoying word, but he is "trending" for sure, on multiple levels, so you knew this was coming from the masses. He went for 8K in this Calcutta. Some here might be in said Calcutta, btw.

Here's right around where some of the others went (pays out top 4):

Scheffler went for 13K
Rory 9
Colin 7
Rahm 6
Aber 6
Turner 4.2
Brooks 3.8
X 3.8
Great deals for Xander and Brooks.
Agree, we got Brooks but completely spaced on Xander. Wanted him but the auction for him closed early and we simply missed it. That's why I took him individually (would suck if he won and got nothing for it).

Ironically enough, guess who else was a great deal? Scottie. Sounds crazy, the number, but not when you compare his actual odds and the corresponding payouts. Keep in mind they pay for 2-4th, so that kind of "insurance" is huge.
 
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I'm still shocked that the Masters can present itself as one of the biggest tourneys of the year and we can't get damn full field coverage from the start (n)
 
I'm still shocked that the Masters can present itself as one of the biggest tourneys of the year and we can't get damn full field coverage from the start (n)
It's by far the biggest...which drives your point more...but I will say the Featured Groups have been great today.
 
over the past year i can only surmise from viewing that jon rahm has stolen all of as. bhatia’s meals. bhatia looks to be about 67 pounds.
 
Whittled down my LIV guys to Koepka because he's done it and he can tune out the noise. And Niemann who just has a feathery short game I like; just love the way he swings 'em.

Got a tiny play on Bryson to be the 1st round leader at +2800. He's had nice starts here before and I've always found him interesting.

Good start, but he's about to enter unfriendly terrain....

One stretch of the golf course has been particularly daunting for him at Augusta. DeChambeau is a combined 22-over-par on Holes 3, 4 and 5 in 28 career Masters rounds. Excluding past champions, that’s the second-worst score on those holes by any player since his debut in 2016.
 
The Watch Live feed for the "My Group" option is not good. Or should I say refined? They need another year.

The mundane AI voice on it will get the players wrong at times. As well as the shots (#) they're taking. And it's way behind. If you've seen the leaderboard, it's basically like watching replays of your players, not live shots, or even recent. It also tends to show the same players that weren't in the 4 I selected. I get there will be gaps in play and to show other action but it's the same guys, who were random and not the leaders, which makes no sense.

At least go back to leaders or interesting holes, not Harris English for the 7th time.
 
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Freddie going from 1 over to 1 under on 14, and staying/finishing there, was awesome.

His reaction was great, too, kept kissing his hybrid like they were in 3rd grade.
 

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