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2025 Miami Dolphins - 1-6, Currently hold the #2 pick in the draft. (7 Viewers)

Omar Kelly got this started...

It appears that the Miami Dolphins are indeed interested in signing free agent J.C. Jackson when the market officially opens on Wednesday. Can they is the question.

Imagine the Dolphins secondary with two Pro Bowl corners on the roster? J.C. Jackson is the up and coming big name while Xavien Howard has been consistent the last few years. Both will eat up $20 million in cap space and after that, the Dolphins have to figure out what to do with Byron Jones.

Could the Dolphins move Jones back into a safety role with Jevon Holland? That would be an incredibly interesting and perhaps lethal secondary. Maybe if you can’t be one of the teams with a top ten QB in the AFC then have the best secondary to beat them.

Earlier today, Omar Kelly confirmed the rumors when he said the Dolphins are in play for Jackson but we are a long way from it happening. The Chargers and Raiders are also pursuing the top corner on the market.

Miami has the most available cap space but we need to realize that the cap is not really a set in stone number. Teams have figured out how to manipulate the numbers and while the Dolphins won’t need to do that, other teams can and will so Jackson could be in play for a number of other teams.

 
Man In The Box said:
Looks like Cedrick Wilson has signed a 3 year deal. 
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Great. He's young, 26, and has improved every year. I wouldn't call him a rising star, but his contract is reasonable for a 2nd or 3rd WR by the Kirk standard. The Bridgewater contract should be cheap. We still have money for an OT and ILB. And our cap for 2023 and draft capital are good, if Tua fails to improve.

>>Details of the Cedrick Wilson Jr. contract with the Dolphins: 3 years up to $22.8M. $12.75M is fully guaranteed at signing. Miami gets a rising star at WR.<<

https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1503469414011842565?s=20&t=Ufl0cAcJrBh8Ywq8FNIXEg

 
Again, nothing to complain about so far… although the bengals going harder on o line than miami bothers me a little.  Ced Wilson is a gamer. 
 

infante said that miami was in the jcj hunt but as soon as they caught wind he was closing in somewhere else miami resigned ogbah. Smart money move. 

 
Gatorman said:
Again, nothing to complain about so far… although the bengals going harder on o line than miami bothers me a little.  Ced Wilson is a gamer. 
 

infante said that miami was in the jcj hunt but as soon as they caught wind he was closing in somewhere else miami resigned ogbah. Smart money move. 
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Also possible guys would rather play for the Bengals than the Dolphins if the money is close.

Wilson was a neat little pick up. He's possibly every bit the WR Christian Kirk is(which is a fine #3) at a fraction of the cost. 

ETA: I wonder if they are gonna play Gesicki more as a traditional TE with Wilson's signing? 

 
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Gatorman said:
Again, nothing to complain about so far… although the bengals going harder on o line than miami bothers me a little.  Ced Wilson is a gamer. 
 

infante said that miami was in the jcj hunt but as soon as they caught wind he was closing in somewhere else miami resigned ogbah. Smart money move. 
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jcj is good, but that's alot of dough at a position where we've already spent money. Also, he might be slightly over-rated. 5 of his 8 INTs last year were versus Wilson and Darnold. Ogbah is peaking, good move.

Waiting for the Armstead signing!

 
La'el Collins is very much in play if released by Dallas, he would be a Right Tackle. 

Armstead is interesting but will be 31 years old before the start of next season. 

 
Ced Wilson is a pretty good under the radar wr signing. 
 

lost in this, but not by me, is that the type of skill player they are targeting are the “returner” type players that can lineup ala deebo or c Patterson on those toss sweeps. Both Wilson and Edmonds are kick returners for their previous teams. 

 
My take on the news from yesterday:

Cedric Wilson - Love this signing, hungry young WR that flashed some last year when he was given a bigger role. Parker never stays healthy so while he will be the #3 going into the season but will likely get plenty of time.

Emmanuel Ogbah - Needed to get this done IMO and I think they got a fair market deal. I like the 4 year deal instead of given his age and the dead money in year 3 and 4 especially isn't bad if they needed to get out of it. Good work by the front office and agent to get a deal that works for both.

Chase Edmonds - Not a name I was really thinking of but he seems to fit the mold of the San Fran backs that Coach had success with. Unfortunately that includes the injury part that seemed common with SF backs as well. If he stays healthy I think he will be successful and fits what they want to do. Wouldn't be surprised if they still draft a RB at some point.

Teddy Bridgewater - Big improvement at backup QB and a guy that seems like he can be a mentor to Tua and a good voice in his ear.

Mike Gesicki - One year deal on the franchise tag when we have the cap space and a chance for him to prove he can fit in this offense (ie. finally make an effort to block). If he can't at least work and become a serviceable blocker that he can be on the field on running plays then I think he is let go next year.

Keion Crossen -  Don't know much about him. Seems like a decent depth guy but also has been traded twice and now not resigned so that begs some questions.

 
Thanks for the write up on these guys, makes it easy to post back and comment on your quick takes. 

Cedric Wilson - Love this signing, hungry young WR that flashed some last year when he was given a bigger role. Parker never stays healthy so while he will be the #3 going into the season but will likely get plenty of time.

Waddle-Wilson-Parker for a 1-2-3 and they are looking better already. Gesicki which we will get to, Edmonds adds a lot of versatility and there is a pretty good look at what they are likely to roll out in their passing situations. They are going to line up at times with a true Fullback and I don't always expect to see Edmonds for that package but he can be part of anything they want to try. The Draft doesn't have a lot of skill players that wow folks and then you look at Kirk getting $84M and you see Wilson who hasn't totally peaked yet, yeah i get it that Wilson might not blow folks away but people doubted Joe Horn when he left Kansas City for New Orleans because he simply hadn't been a starter yet. Miami will give Wilson a chance to increase his number of targets, I think I like this signing a lot although he's not a rock star receiver but he has good hands and can be a drive extender for our Offense. Good job Miami but we'll see how the camp reports play out during summer. 

Emmanuel Ogbah - Needed to get this done IMO and I think they got a fair market deal. I like the 4 year deal instead of given his age and the dead money in year 3 and 4 especially isn't bad if they needed to get out of it. Good work by the front office and agent to get a deal that works for both.

Agree, he was needed and these contracts are really about half of what you see. 4 years but really it's a 2 year deal and I think he is worth the money and plays as hard as anyone on that defense. Love him. 

Chase Edmonds - Not a name I was really thinking of but he seems to fit the mold of the San Fran backs that Coach had success with. Unfortunately that includes the injury part that seemed common with SF backs as well. If he stays healthy I think he will be successful and fits what they want to do. Wouldn't be surprised if they still draft a RB at some point.

I think for the money he was another nice piece to give Tua at least a threat out of the back field. 96 receptions while missing chunks of time last 2 years, he hasn't completely hit his ceiling, in fact he could challenge for reception leader on the team, might look at him as a 3rd WR at times. 

Teddy Bridgewater - Big improvement at backup QB and a guy that seems like he can be a mentor to Tua and a good voice in his ear.

Why do I get this feeling I am going to see Teddy taking snaps at different points of the season for a variety of reasons?

Mike Gesicki - One year deal on the franchise tag when we have the cap space and a chance for him to prove he can fit in this offense (ie. finally make an effort to block). If he can't at least work and become a serviceable blocker that he can be on the field on running plays then I think he is let go next year.

I think they will be signing him to a long term deal as the season unfolds if not sooner. He was drafted high 2nd round, Top 40 pick and I think Grier wants him to be one of the long term pieces he put here. Grier has whiffed badly on some but this is one he can point to as a success. 

Keion Crossen -  Don't know much about him. Seems like a decent depth guy but also has been traded twice and now not resigned so that begs some questions.

3 yr/$10M, special team ACE they say, 7th Rd pick New England in 2018, just 25 years old, has some versatility in the secondary. Mostly going to play on Special Teams though. 

 
Just FYI...in 12 months we will be handing over a new contract to Tua with an ungodly signing bonus and a pay range of about $35-$40M according to his market value and projections on Spotrac.

You have to ask the question with so much cap space right now....would you rather have Tua at $35M a year or DeShaun Watson? Because that is the REALITY of the situation and there's a chance you could change the arc of the franchise forever. 

I have to post this because this is exactly what is unfolding right now. Franchise QBs are changing teams and we are sitting here trying to build around a QB we know has a weak arm...just feels like we are watching the NFL World pass us by once again. We couldn't tank right, that's partly why we're in this mess and then the inability to take Herbert over Tua. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Just FYI...in 12 months we will be handing over a new contract to Tua with an ungodly signing bonus and a pay range of about $35-$40M according to his market value and projections on Spotrac.

You have to ask the question with so much cap space right now....would you rather have Tua at $35M a year or DeShaun Watson? Because that is the REALITY of the situation and there's a chance you could change the arc of the franchise forever. 

I have to post this because this is exactly what is unfolding right now. Franchise QBs are changing teams and we are sitting here trying to build around a QB we know has a weak arm...just feels like we are watching the NFL World pass us by once again. We couldn't tank right, that's partly why we're in this mess and then the inability to take Herbert over Tua. 
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Yeah, BUT, its not just that...  It's Tua vs watson and a crapload of picks, compensation, etc, all the while with a weak draft class at the position so the bidding war is going to be UGLY.  As for the "second" contract, well, we did that with Tannyhill and I don't think it panned out perfectly (and the two situations seem to be almost mirror images).  Tua has his "prove it" coach.  Guy who has his back and it going to put a system in place to make him excel... Or not.  If Miami fixes their line and their skill positions and Tua gets hurt or plays like crap, then there is likely no second contract and he becomes baker mayfield south...

 
Signed Connor Williams (Dallas G).  I read that he ranked 11th for OGs on PFF which is great, but Dallas fans all saying that he takes a ton of holding penalties - Twitter fanboys being my source for both of these claims.  2 years, I think $13.5M.  May not be the answer we need, but should still represent an upgrade to the practice squad fodder we put out there week after week last season.  

 
ChuckLiddell said:
Signed Connor Williams (Dallas G).  I read that he ranked 11th for OGs on PFF which is great, but Dallas fans all saying that he takes a ton of holding penalties - Twitter fanboys being my source for both of these claims.  2 years, I think $13.5M.  May not be the answer we need, but should still represent an upgrade to the practice squad fodder we put out there week after week last season.  
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I think I saw 10 penalties his first 3 seasons combined and then 11 last year. 8 in a stretch then benched. 

 
Wonder if they’ll be in the market for Tretter, C released by Cle. 

They’re running out of cap space once you allocate for the draft pics…  

 
=Smackdown= said:
Where are the Tackles they so desperately need? Hoping it's Eichenberg?

They have a ton of Gackles but sorely need ORT and/or OLT.
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Armstead, Trent Brown, and Collins are all still homeless.  I think as long as we get one of them (2 would be amazing but unlikely) it will be a success.  

 
Miami sits at $27M Under the Cap as they are standing right now. 

LB-Duke Riley has been brought back on a 1 yr/$3M deal, he's mostly special teams and pretty good at it. 

WR-Preston Williams, the Unicorn is back on a 1 year deal to try and compete. 

 
S-Eric Rowe only played about 57% of the snaps and is making $5M, they save $4.5M if they let him go. 

Why is Jesse Davis-OT still on the roster? $3.5m they save if they release him.

DT-Adam Butler $4M they save with his release

PK-Jason Sander $3M they save if they cut him

WR-Allen Hurns is another $2.5M when they release him

Dieter, Clayton F and Cethan Carter make up roughly another $7M if they decide to move on from these guys

That's almost $25M added to $27M under the cap, Miami can still be about $50M under the cap when Free Agency starts.

@=Smackdown=

 
ChuckLiddell said:
Signed Connor Williams (Dallas G).  I read that he ranked 11th for OGs on PFF which is great, but Dallas fans all saying that he takes a ton of holding penalties - Twitter fanboys being my source for both of these claims.  2 years, I think $13.5M.  May not be the answer we need, but should still represent an upgrade to the practice squad fodder we put out there week after week last season.  
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TripleThreat said:
I think I saw 10 penalties his first 3 seasons combined and then 11 last year. 8 in a stretch then benched. 
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We're pretty sure Hunt will remain at RG, Connor will start at LG, that's what they are paying him for. If he doesn't hit he'll be gone as early as next season. 2nd round pick out of Texas, has to be about 26-27 so he's in his prime. 

Eich-Connor is your new 1-2 on the Left side of the line.

Eich-Connor-Center-Hunt-Jackson...yes Austin Jackson will now likely try and start at Right Tackle and assume Jesse Davis is gone. Alternative is flip Eich to Right Tackle and try Jackson once again at left Tackle.

-Connor coming on board leads me to believe they are not going to sign a high priced Tackle right now. I could be wrong but otherwise Austin Jackson is on his way out of here for whatever they can get.  You're not going to keep that guy around as a Mid 1st round pick if he isn't starting somewhere on your OL by Year 3 and this front office doesn't like to admit mistakes. 

Quick thoughts on this signing. Underwhelming? 

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
We're pretty sure Hunt will remain at RG, Connor will start at LG, that's what they are paying him for. If he doesn't hit he'll be gone as early as next season. 2nd round pick out of Texas, has to be about 26-27 so he's in his prime. 

Eich-Connor is your new 1-2 on the Left side of the line.

Eich-Connor-Center-Hunt-Jackson...yes Austin Jackson will now likely try and start at Right Tackle and assume Jesse Davis is gone. Alternative is flip Eich to Right Tackle and try Jackson once again at left Tackle.

-Connor coming on board leads me to believe they are not going to sign a high priced Tackle right now. I could be wrong but otherwise Austin Jackson is on his way out of here for whatever they can get.  You're not going to keep that guy around as a Mid 1st round pick if he isn't starting somewhere on your OL by Year 3 and this front office doesn't like to admit mistakes. 

Quick thoughts on this signing. Underwhelming? 
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I'm not sure about the penalties on Connor, but he's 24.8 years old and his last 4 pff grades are trending up: 60, 61, 71, 76. Major improvement at the LG position. There will be another tackle signed to start. Let Jackson and Eich compete for the other Tackle position. 

Like Barry Jackson wrote today, this sets us up for BPA with picks 1.29 in a draft with late first round depth. Maybe LB Nakobe Dean, or IOL Zion Johnson, or a WR who drops, Williams of ALA or London of USC.

Tua won't get the big bucks unless he improves significantly when under pressure. Next year is deep at QB and we have 2 1st and 2 3rd round picks. IIRC.

 
SoBeDad said:
I'm not sure about the penalties on Connor, but he's 24.8 years old and his last 4 pff grades are trending up: 60, 61, 71, 76. Major improvement at the LG position. There will be another tackle signed to start. Let Jackson and Eich compete for the other Tackle position. 

Like Barry Jackson wrote today, this sets us up for BPA with picks 1.29 in a draft with late first round depth. Maybe LB Nakobe Dean, or IOL Zion Johnson, or a WR who drops, Williams of ALA or London of USC.

Tua won't get the big bucks unless he improves significantly when under pressure. Next year is deep at QB and we have 2 1st and 2 3rd round picks. IIRC.
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Eich is going to get another shot at Left Tackle in my opinion. Jesse Davis should be gone, maybe they bring Collins over from Dallas as well. 

We need a Center 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
We're pretty sure Hunt will remain at RG, Connor will start at LG, that's what they are paying him for. If he doesn't hit he'll be gone as early as next season. 2nd round pick out of Texas, has to be about 26-27 so he's in his prime. 

Eich-Connor is your new 1-2 on the Left side of the line.

Eich-Connor-Center-Hunt-Jackson...yes Austin Jackson will now likely try and start at Right Tackle and assume Jesse Davis is gone. Alternative is flip Eich to Right Tackle and try Jackson once again at left Tackle.

-Connor coming on board leads me to believe they are not going to sign a high priced Tackle right now. I could be wrong but otherwise Austin Jackson is on his way out of here for whatever they can get.  You're not going to keep that guy around as a Mid 1st round pick if he isn't starting somewhere on your OL by Year 3 and this front office doesn't like to admit mistakes. 

Quick thoughts on this signing. Underwhelming? 
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First thought is "Miami is doing a very good job so far not overpaying for anyone".  This guard signing is just another example of that.  He put up a bad tape last year and that is likely why we got him at a good price, but who knows what he may have been dealing with (1), and he is still young (2).  

As for all the other signings: we still have holes to fill.  The good news on all those rookie contracts on the o line is that they are cheap so we can spend on the line (still) and the "back fills" on the roster are cheap.  Also, multiple centers and tackles are still out there as are LBs and even some edge rushers.  Dolphins have added, what, 6 players already and are just starting to creep into the "pick one up, drop a roster guy" cap ramifications.  

So:

QB: solved for 2022 (like it or not)

RB: Player added, position still in flux

WR: Same as RB, but a little more settled

TE: Settled

O Line: Unsettled

D Line: Bringing back last years group.  Settled depth in draft?

LBs: Settled, but we could use a ILB to free up baker a little more

CB: Settled at the moment

Safety: Settled for years to come

K and P: settled?

Not bad for 48 hours...  Miami seems positioned for BPA at every pick this year.

 
Don't assume DeVante Parker makes it to the opening day roster. 

The WR has not really shown a connection with Tua, partly because both of them are injured at times but even when they are together it's not the best combo or strike team. The last coaching staff liked Parker and extended him once or twice redoing his contract as he had 1 strong season at WR in the 6 or 7 years since we drafted him 1st round. 

Parker is the 5th Highest paid player on Miami, but as a veteran WR his salary of almost $9M when you look around the league, isn't all that costly for a team well under the Cap at the moment and can make additional cuts. Guys like Kirk are making North of $15M. 

Miami would save $6M on their cap if they release him after June 1st and if a WR falls into Miami's lap at #29 which could happen like Drake London from USC, you could see Parker released at some point. I am not assuming he will be here and I also am not sure how I feel but I know his connection with Tua isn't great so i kinda want another WR or body to match up with Tua and see if things get better.

Waddle cannot continue to have less than a 10 yd avg per catch, Miami needs to stretch the field. 

 
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This next move I am going to suggest is more about being ahead and when or if it happens you won't be caught off guard. 

CB-Bryon Jones 

Byron is the Highest paid player on the team with almost a $16.5M salary and after June 1st would cost $8M in dead cap to send him on his way. Do we keep him 1 more year? Try and trade him for a Day 2 pick if we can get it? Some teams out there are desperate for Secondary help and while he hasn't lived up to his salary here, he is better than a lot of other options for teams. 

I'm also OK if they take it on the chin and let him go. Take the hit but then he is off the books. Not sure how you all feel about him. 

 
Gatorman said:
First thought is "Miami is doing a very good job so far not overpaying for anyone".  This guard signing is just another example of that.  He put up a bad tape last year and that is likely why we got him at a good price, but who knows what he may have been dealing with (1), and he is still young (2).  

As for all the other signings: we still have holes to fill.  The good news on all those rookie contracts on the o line is that they are cheap so we can spend on the line (still) and the "back fills" on the roster are cheap.  Also, multiple centers and tackles are still out there as are LBs and even some edge rushers.  Dolphins have added, what, 6 players already and are just starting to creep into the "pick one up, drop a roster guy" cap ramifications.  

So:

QB: solved for 2022 (like it or not)

RB: Player added, position still in flux

WR: Same as RB, but a little more settled

TE: Settled

O Line: Unsettled

D Line: Bringing back last years group.  Settled depth in draft?

LBs: Settled, but we could use a ILB to free up baker a little more

CB: Settled at the moment

Safety: Settled for years to come

K and P: settled?

Not bad for 48 hours...  Miami seems positioned for BPA at every pick this year.
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QB: solved for 2022 (like it or not)

Solved in what sense? They have who they have, stop watching Watson updates, Teddy Bridgewater is the cure, what does solve mean? I know we are going to start Tua like it or not, is that what you meant? I know Teddy Bridgewater will be starting at least a game or two this year for a variety of reasons like it or not, is that what you meant by solved?  :boxing:   

RB: Player added, position still in flux

-Agreed but I like the 1st piece they added, injuries are a concern but low mileage and 96 catches the last 2 seasons for Chase, he might net 60-70 balls out of the backfield and operate as almost a 3rd WR for Tua. 

WR: Same as RB, but a little more settled

-Wilson signing is looking better by the minute I gotta say. I am not a huge Gage fan and he got a lot from the Bucs as a No 3 WR. I like Wilson much better for our offense and I think he will use this opportunity to carve out a nice NFL career going forward for himself. Forget Parker right now, Waddle-Wislon-Gesicki-Edmonds and we're not done. 

TE: Settled

-Wouldn't mind Smythe coming back but we have this dude named Hunter Long a TE and I am eager to see what this coaching staff can do with him. Most rookie TEs suck so the fact he didn't play much last year doesn't deter me from wanting to see him and Gesicki BOTH being used a lot in this offense and decent TE play will help a questionable OL. 

O Line: Unsettled

-I like Connor Williams as a small 1st step to pair with Hunt. LG-RG is solved I would say. We need a Center and we need a dynamic Tackle to come in and where that leaves Austin Jackson and Liam Eichenberg is anyone's guess. 

D Line: Bringing back last years group.  Settled depth in draft?

-Miami is going to be looking at some nice additions along the DL/edge if they choose to go that way early. You can never have enough of them. 

LBs: Settled, but we could use a ILB to free up baker a little more

-Not settled IMHO, think there is room for one guy to come in and complete a package with Baker and Van Ginkel. 

CB: Settled at the moment

-I wrote about Byron Jones and I also think Eric Rowe could be on his way out. I see Miami going DB as a strong possibility at #29 as well.  Lot of options in the late 1st. 

Safety: Settled for years to come

Brandon Jones and Jevon Holland are going to be the team back there unless something fals into Miami's lap. There are some nice Safeties again this year that can be had in the 2nd-3rd-4th, maybe shift Byron Jones to a Nickelback, slide Needham around assuming he stays for the $4M tender Miami gave him. 

K and P: settled?

-I don't think so, I can see a new Punter and Kicker. 

-I wanted to take the time to answer you back, again i like when there is a template and i can just go behind and write in my thoughts. I believe we are all on the same general page here in terms of the early moves. I know they can't get it all fixed in a day and Free Agency is an expensive way of building a team. 

-Miami has a lot of options if they aren't pigeon holed in the upcoming Draft. There are lots of good looking Offensive Tackles if they opt not to overpay in free agency BUT if they don't sign one then they telegraph their move potentially. At the same time they have Jackson and Eichenberg, Coach M&M will talk those guys up and tell everyone they will be fine. Then he could go draft one anyways because he's smooth like that. We do have to show a little patience right now even though that isn't my strong suit as we all know. 

Cheers Gator, thanks!

 
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Don't assume DeVante Parker makes it to the opening day roster. 

The WR has not really shown a connection with Tua, partly because both of them are injured at times but even when they are together it's not the best combo or strike team. The last coaching staff liked Parker and extended him once or twice redoing his contract as he had 1 strong season at WR in the 6 or 7 years since we drafted him 1st round. 

Parker is the 5th Highest paid player on Miami, but as a veteran WR his salary of almost $9M when you look around the league, isn't all that costly for a team well under the Cap at the moment and can make additional cuts. Guys like Kirk are making North of $15M. 

Miami would save $6M on their cap if they release him after June 1st and if a WR falls into Miami's lap at #29 which could happen like Drake London from USC, you could see Parker released at some point. I am not assuming he will be here and I also am not sure how I feel but I know his connection with Tua isn't great so i kinda want another WR or body to match up with Tua and see if things get better.

Waddle cannot continue to have less than a 10 yd avg per catch, Miami needs to stretch the field. 
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I don't think Miami releases Parker, but the stats speak for themselves as posted by Barry Jackson multiple times. Parker had the 2nd worst separation among WRs in 2021 (Golladay was worse), but the most contested catches. In 16 games with Tua, Parker has averaged 46 yards with a grand total of 3 TDs. Parker is a presence over the middle (game winning 3rd down conversion in gm 1 vs NE), and on the sidelines. Similar skill set to Gesicki. Cedrick Wilson provides more speed and moves than Parker. Don't forget about Lynn Bowden, who may provide Tua with good slot opportunities, freeing up Waddle for more deep passes.

I think G Wilson, Olave, Burks, and London will be gone at 1.29. Does Miami bite on Jameson Williams, if he's available, knowing he might not play the entire year, but could be a stud in 2023, perhaps with another QB? No, I think there will be an impact OL or LB at 1.29 available and Miami selects a speed WR in the 3rd or 4th round.

 
SoBeDad said:
I don't think Miami releases Parker, but the stats speak for themselves as posted by Barry Jackson multiple times. Parker had the 2nd worst separation among WRs in 2021 (Golladay was worse), but the most contested catches. In 16 games with Tua, Parker has averaged 46 yards with a grand total of 3 TDs. Parker is a presence over the middle (game winning 3rd down conversion in gm 1 vs NE), and on the sidelines. Similar skill set to Gesicki. Cedrick Wilson provides more speed and moves than Parker. Don't forget about Lynn Bowden, who may provide Tua with good slot opportunities, freeing up Waddle for more deep passes.

I think G Wilson, Olave, Burks, and London will be gone at 1.29. Does Miami bite on Jameson Williams, if he's available, knowing he might not play the entire year, but could be a stud in 2023, perhaps with another QB? No, I think there will be an impact OL or LB at 1.29 available and Miami selects a speed WR in the 3rd or 4th round.
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This Lynn Bowden talk has to stop, you and everyone else in here likes to throw his name in to your posts like salt into a soup, I'll believe it when I see it. The guy has done largely nothing since he got here but has taken on the Back Up QB fan favorite roll. I'm not a fan and nor am I hanging my hat that Lynn Bowden ever makes an impact here but I hope I'm wrong.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
This Lynn Bowden talk has to stop, you and everyone else in here likes to throw his name in to your posts like salt into a soup, I'll believe it when I see it. The guy has done largely nothing since he got here but has taken on the Back Up QB fan favorite roll. I'm not a fan and nor am I hanging my hat that Lynn Bowden ever makes an impact here but I hope I'm wrong.
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I saw some skills in the slot late in 2020, at a new position for Bowden. FWIW, his 2020 pff grade on 36 targets and 28 receptions was a respectable 68.8. Yes, he needs to prove it in 2022. Barry Jackson pointed out a mistake by Grier & Flores in 2021 - they put Bowden on season-ending IR cause of a glut of WRs at the time, when a better move was to see what they had when he got healthy halfway through the season. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
This Lynn Bowden talk has to stop, you and everyone else in here likes to throw his name in to your posts like salt into a soup, I'll believe it when I see it. The guy has done largely nothing since he got here but has taken on the Back Up QB fan favorite roll. I'm not a fan and nor am I hanging my hat that Lynn Bowden ever makes an impact here but I hope I'm wrong.
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Don't disagree that Bowden, Parker, Williams, hurns, that tree over there and whatever else hasn't shown anything needs to not really be factored in until they show something, BUT, all the practice vids Tua posts is with Bowden catching the balls. If it was Rodgers or Brady doing that with him i would be news....

 
Gatorman said:
Don't disagree that Bowden, Parker, Williams, hurns, that tree over there and whatever else hasn't shown anything needs to not really be factored in until they show something, BUT, all the practice vids Tua posts is with Bowden catching the balls. If it was Rodgers or Brady doing that with him i would be news....
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Those vids show Tua put on some mass and is working on slinging it.

 
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