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A-List Celebrity To Be Outed As A Sexual Predator (4 Viewers)
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massraider
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I work an an office with almost all women. There are two other males total. I get low grade harassment quite a bit. I just roll with it.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Judge Kozinsky out. We'll always have that opinion where he just quotes movies and the great concluding line, "The parties are advised to chill."
massraider
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
jabarony
Footballguy
Nooooooooo!!!!! Not Stan the Man!!!!!
I don't want to think about him whipping out his junk to some nurse as he exclaims "Excelsior!!!!" But now that thought is in my mind, forever.
The loungewear lacking Lee likes leering lustily at leary lovely ladies
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kentric
Footballguy
Michael Douglas tries to nip accusations in the bud.
http://deadline.com/2018/01/michael-douglas-sexual-harassment-allegation-defends-himself-1202239676/
http://deadline.com/2018/01/michael-douglas-sexual-harassment-allegation-defends-himself-1202239676/
saintfool
Dead sexy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Posted this in a different thread in the politics forum, but:
Not sure the appropriate thread - but the woman who created the "Sexual Assault" spreadsheet has outed herself. I had read recently that she feared that Harper's was running an article that was going to name her in March - so she jumped ahead of the game and published her own essay on the topic - accepting that the concept spiraled out of her control, albeit the genesis had good intentions.
https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/moira-donegan-i-started-the-media-men-list.html
I am not sure where I stand on this - I understand the need to report and out people who sexually assault others; but, I am not sure that an anonymous whisper campaign is the right tool for the job.
Not sure the appropriate thread - but the woman who created the "Sexual Assault" spreadsheet has outed herself. I had read recently that she feared that Harper's was running an article that was going to name her in March - so she jumped ahead of the game and published her own essay on the topic - accepting that the concept spiraled out of her control, albeit the genesis had good intentions.
https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/moira-donegan-i-started-the-media-men-list.html
I am not sure where I stand on this - I understand the need to report and out people who sexually assault others; but, I am not sure that an anonymous whisper campaign is the right tool for the job.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
There have been some silly ones since day 1. On network news early in this process one of the networks ran the story of an up and coming actress who was claiming assault. She met a producer for a "business" dinner at a hotel restaurant. After dinner he suggested they continue the meeting in his hotel room, which she agreed to do (she did not come to this meeting with an agent mind you). Once up in the hotel room, he asked her for sex. She said no and left.
That's her complaint. It makes the criticism of the movement (most notably for me by that group of French women) make a wee bit of sense. Stick to the truly vile and criminal complaints (which I'm sure there are enough of to keep this story going) and stop trying to make a victim out of any woman who has ever been asked for sex by someone she wasn't attracted to.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Is this where we get into the "well, you're wearing the uniform" part of the program? It seems a bit early regarding a pretty serious problem, but it was always waiting. The shameless gratuity of the world's hottest pretendy girls gathering at an awards ceremony to celebrate the "heroinism" of their wolf-whistleblowing after a century of auctioning their pulchritude to the highest bidder on Sunset does rush us to second-level judgement, however.
kentric
Footballguy
I constantly live in fear that some of the women in my past are going to charge me for assault because I like to slap the ole butt while doing doggy. Forget the fact that they all seemed to enjoy it.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
One day, we'll have to file sex returns where we can amortize coital "Yes"clamations for their tacit consent value
dhockster
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
most fist tweets usually do.
eta:dammit- it was low-hanging fruit that's already been sampled.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
Consensual sex... months later "I felt pressured"
This bs has to stop. Its starting to become noise which sucks for the real victims.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm generally loathe to question the accusations, but when they seem to amount to "I didn't enjoy it and gave non-verbal cues"...well, that's pretty weak sauce.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
pantherclub
Footballguy
pantherclub
Footballguy
I dont know about a specific strategy per se but like I have said tons of times the shift was so quick and so dramatic that this type of mindless crap was bound to happen and it takes away from the really heinous actions of guys. Its borderline criminal to lump Aziz and others under this sexual assault umbrella.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
You have my 1974 Apprentice Associate Degree from the Hunter S Wordson Institute for Gonzo Opinions & M*A*S*H* Scriptwriting to thank for that!
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
SeePretty decent article on Ansari that starts to get to the heart of why this is so difficult and messy now. In situations described by "Grace", she was admittedly struck by and chasing celebrity. She gave plenty of signals that she was interested in him and, from all appearances, had the ability to say no and leave at any point, but chose not to. I'm not so sure that women are really that powerless today.
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/550541/?__twitter_impression=true
Of course, the flip side of her argument is that young men who are looking for casual sexual encounters put themselves at risk of being targeted by these types of accusations. And the more encounters they have, the more risk that they take on. If you don't want to be accused of sexual harassment or assault/date rape, then stop sleeping around.
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/550541/?__twitter_impression=true
Of course, the flip side of her argument is that young men who are looking for casual sexual encounters put themselves at risk of being targeted by these types of accusations. And the more encounters they have, the more risk that they take on. If you don't want to be accused of sexual harassment or assault/date rape, then stop sleeping around.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Doug B
Footballguy
Neil deGrasse Tyson's turn in the barrel. Very little in the way of detail, though -- single accuser, 33 years ago.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Disagree on this one. There are LOADS of reports on Reddit of NDT attending speaking engagements at colleges and putting full court presses on young females during more exclusive access events. To the point of ignoring all the male students and making the girls really uncomfortable.
He's a well known jerk who has a known history of using his status to lure young women. That's obviously not evidence for a criminal trial, but I think it's a good indicator for how he views women and how he views those beneath his status.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
This is utter bull ####. Should married men stop screwing their wives too? Just in case she decides to rewrite history down the road at some point? How about we penalize people for false accusation. Good friend of mine got accused of rape after a one nighter. Had his life turned upside down. Turned out to be a false claim. But as far as we've heard not a single thing happened to her. There should be a penalty for placing another in harm's way (even only legally).
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Politician Spock
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
It's not
at all. If you're married and having sex with just your wife, your chances of being accused of sexual assault are incredibly low. If you are sleeping with many women, often without knowing enough to judge their temperament and mental/emotional stability, then you are putting yourself in a lot of jeopardy. The case of your friend being falsely accused is prime proof of that.I'm in no way implying that women who make false accusations shouldn't be held accountable. But having sex with someone you barely know, or having sex with a lot of women, absolutely increases the odds of being falsely accused, especially in an age where the definition of consent seems awfully murky. I'm not sure how that's even debatable.
I am 100% confident that my wife will never accuse me of sexual assault because I know who she is very well and know that it's not something she would do. And, if by chance I were wrong about that, the evidence in my favor would be incredibly powerful due to length of our relationship/nature of our relationship/other people's observations of our relationship/etc.
It's similar to women who dress sexily and then walk by themselves in dark dangerous areas. It is absolutely not their fault if they are assaulted and not something that they deserve, but they certainly increased the chances that something bad would happen to them by making risky choices. We all have opportunity to decrease the odds of something unjust happening to us by making less risky choices. It does not eliminate that chance, it does not justify the actions of bad actors who take advantage of risky choices, and it does not mean that the individual who made risky choices is to blame. But it's simple logic that increasing your risky behavior increases the potential for bad outcomes.
