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A-List Celebrity To Be Outed As A Sexual Predator (1 Viewer)

So did IFC always have Se7en scheduled for multiple showings today or are they just playing the news cycle?

Also extra creepy to listen the Spacey talk about pederasts with such disdain

 
E-Z Glider said:
This is my guess. I have a friend of a friend (straight maie) who claims to have had a very creepy run-in with him one time. Says Spacey wanted to have his way with him and was very aggressive and made it super uncomfortable to be around him. I think about it every time I see him. 

I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Travolta, Cruise, etc swing both ways, but that doesn't make them a sexual predator. Spacey seems more like that type to me.
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The dynamite, it goes boom.  

 
Epic Problem said:
So did IFC always have Se7en scheduled for multiple showings today or are they just playing the news cycle?

Also extra creepy to listen the Spacey talk about pederasts with such disdain
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Hanrahan?

 
btw... just a reminder that spacey isn't the guy. I dont think :oldunsure:  

from post #1:

Hollywood is poised to out the A-list star who raped tragic ’80s child starCorey Haimand has brazenly gotten away with the abuse for almost three decades. RadarOnline is choosing not to name the superstar sexual predator at this time, but can reveal that he is one of the most recognizable faces in the industry. In what would be the biggest development yet in exposing the seedy underbelly of organized pedophilia at the heart of Tinseltown, people close to the late Haim — who died in 2010 of a drug overdose at the age of 38 — are threatening to out the pedophile who raped the teen prodigy. If they do, it would inevitably become one of the biggest pedophile scandals in America’s history.  The closeted perv has never come out as gay — and even has children of his own. But in truth, the star behind the family-man facade is an evil monster who has led an extraordinarily twisted double-life. He was the “kingpin” of a child sex ring that ensnared Haim and Corey Feldman, multiple sources have told Radar over the span of a gut-wrenching, four-year investigation into the Hollywood scandal and cover up. “This dirty little secret is an open secret among so many in the biz,” revealed one showbiz insider. Reporters from Radar have spoken to dozens of sources, who have revealed how Haim pinpointed his depraved abuser in the final years of his troubled life.
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I heard one report where someone was accused of putting his hand on someone's knee ~10 years ago.  Don't remember the names.  That one is laughable IMO.

 
hollywood is finished.   

this is just the first major setback.   There will be many, many more.    In ten years we'll look back at this as just the tip of the spear.

 
tommyboy said:
hollywood is finished.   

this is just the first major setback.   There will be many, many more.    In ten years we'll look back at this as just the tip of the spear.
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Are you kidding?  They are going to now make movies about these monsters and then make money off of them.

 
These rich Hollywood guys are idiots, if you want to get your kink on just go with high end hookers. You can work out ahead of time whatever it is you want to do to them and sometimes they let you do  stuff you didn't discuss and won't even charge you extra for it. 

 
Snickers said:
These rich Hollywood guys are idiots, if you want to get your kink on just go with high end hookers. You can work out ahead of time whatever it is you want to do to them and sometimes they let you do  stuff you didn't discuss and won't even charge you extra for it. 
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Experienced?  

 
Hov34 said:
Are you kidding?  They are going to now make movies about these monsters and then make money off of them.
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they will probably try to keep making movies but the making money off them will be the hard part going forward.   what's happening to the movie industry now has already happened in the music biz.

things like digital piracy, ease of production, new platforms of distribution, younger generations abandoning movie theaters, politicization and blowback against it, the moral rot of hollywood itself, high cost of movie tickets  etc etc  etc  is going to ruin hollywood as we've known it.

people will start their own studios, make their own movies, companies such as Amazon and Netflix have already entereed the production and distribution game, others will follow 

we'll end up with a highly fragmented and diverse movie industry where hollywood will be a minor player.

 
tommyboy said:
they will probably try to keep making movies but the making money off them will be the hard part going forward.   what's happening to the movie industry now has already happened in the music biz.

things like digital piracy, ease of production, new platforms of distribution, younger generations abandoning movie theaters, politicization and blowback against it, the moral rot of hollywood itself, high cost of movie tickets  etc etc  etc  is going to ruin hollywood as we've known it.

people will start their own studios, make their own movies, companies such as Amazon and Netflix have already entereed the production and distribution game, others will follow 

we'll end up with a highly fragmented and diverse movie industry where hollywood will be a minor player.
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Not saying you're wrong, but Amazon already fired the dude heading up their production arm for sexual harassment/assault. This #### is systemic across all industries. 

 
tommyboy said:
hollywood is finished.   

this is just the first major setback.   There will be many, many more.    In ten years we'll look back at this as just the tip of the spear.
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by "Hollywood" do you mean the entertainment industry?

or "Hollywood" as the equivalent of a dictator being toppled and the resulting fallout of small factions fighting for what remains (youtube, etc.) and building something anew?

eta: nm, you answered it already

 
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tommyboy said:
they actually decided to do that just today

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/925417618990948352
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Wow.  Now that is surprising (although refreshingly so).  Clearly the cast and crew expressed a bunch of concerns.  Netflix has to pay the actors; hopefully, if they end the series entirely (which looks pretty likely), they will pay all crew members, not just those with whom they have a contractual obligation to do so.  

Looks like Spacey's career is probably over.  

 
Seems odd there is much fervor surrounding allegations against the guy PRETENDING to be the President. Didn't the actual President have an audio tape confessing that he grabbed women by their.....? Almost half the country voted for him anyway. 

 
Aerial Assault said:
Wow.  Now that is surprising (although refreshingly so).  Clearly the cast and crew expressed a bunch of concerns.  Netflix has to pay the actors; hopefully, if they end the series entirely (which looks pretty likely), they will pay all crew members, not just those with whom they have a contractual obligation to do so.  

Looks like Spacey's career is probably over.  
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I've got mixed feelings on this.  I'm not condoning what he did, but getting drunk and "laying down" on a 14 year old kid 30 years ago - for which he has apologized - seems like a lot to ruin someone's life over.

 
lakerstan said:
I've got mixed feelings on this.  I'm not condoning what he did, but getting drunk and "laying down" on a 14 year old kid 30 years ago - for which he has apologized - seems like a lot to ruin someone's life over.
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Sounds like that may just be the first shoe to drop on him.  

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Not saying you're wrong, but Amazon already fired the dude heading up their production arm for sexual harassment/assault. This #### is systemic across all industries. 
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My guess it is endemic to many type-a personalities that tend to rise to the top of their chosen field by bullying their way to the top.

The President is example A of someone who engaged in inappropriate behavior, simply because he could.  But he is more the norm, than the exception.

 
lakerstan said:
I've got mixed feelings on this.  I'm not condoning what he did, but getting drunk and "laying down" on a 14 year old kid 30 years ago - for which he has apologized - seems like a lot to ruin someone's life over.
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i'm not sure molesting kids is something you say "yeah, but that was in his past" about

maybe it's me

 
Norman Paperman said:
What is the appropriate level of punishment/outrage?
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I'm sure people will have different levels of tolerance and that it will be up to each person individually on whether they will continue to support his career or not. 

Ultimately we may not be able to make that decision, because it sounds like Netflix and studios may make it for us (which is absolutely their right to do).

 
lakerstan said:
I've got mixed feelings on this.  I'm not condoning what he did, but getting drunk and "laying down" on a 14 year old kid 30 years ago - for which he has apologized - seems like a lot to ruin someone's life over.
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If that's all he did, then maybe it's excusable.... maybe.

But he, a 26 year, befriended a 14 year old, and then invited him to a party he hosted where he was the only non-adult there. Seems premeditated.... like a predator. 

 
Aerial Assault said:
Wow.  Now that is surprising (although refreshingly so).  Clearly the cast and crew expressed a bunch of concerns.  Netflix has to pay the actors; hopefully, if they end the series entirely (which looks pretty likely), they will pay all crew members, not just those with whom they have a contractual obligation to do so.  

Looks like Spacey's career is probably over.  
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Like a house of cards collapsing. 

 
lakerstan said:
I've got mixed feelings on this.  I'm not condoning what he did, but getting drunk and "laying down" on a 14 year old kid 30 years ago - for which he has apologized - seems like a lot to ruin someone's life over.
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His show was cancelled. Is that ruining someone's life?

 
shadyridr said:
His show was cancelled. Is that ruining someone's life?
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I was responding to the statement that his career was over.  If you’re career, after 40 years in the business, is over, and you have been publically called out as a child molester and will spend the rest of your days with that hanging over you - I’d say your life is pretty much toast.

 
lakerstan said:
I was responding to the statement that his career was over.  If you’re career, after 40 years in the business, is over, and you have been publically called out as a child molester and will spend the rest of your days with that hanging over you - I’d say your life is pretty much toast.
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He's in the liberal protected class of gay.

 
lakerstan said:
I've got mixed feelings on this.  I'm not condoning what he did, but getting drunk and "laying down" on a 14 year old kid 30 years ago - for which he has apologized - seems like a lot to ruin someone's life over.
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One thing you’ll typically find in life, people that assault children rarely only do it once.

 
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lakerstan said:
I was responding to the statement that his career was over.  If you’re career, after 40 years in the business, is over, and you have been publically called out as a child molester and will spend the rest of your days with that hanging over you - I’d say your life is pretty much toast.
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Is he a child molester?  Is he guilty of sexual assault?  If so, his life deserves to be over.

To be fair, he deserves the chance to fight the charges if they are untrue.

His first attempt was basically the worst possible response you can imagine.

 
sublimeone said:
How many more of these stories are going to come out?

Neil Degrasse Tyson accused of rape
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There are quite a lot of stories out there about how big of an arrogant jerk Tyson is and about how when he attends paid speaking engagements at colleges he focuses almost exclusively on the women when in smaller group settings.

That doesn't mean he's guilty of what he's being accused of, but his general attitude and behavior reported previously would be consistent with what we know about most serial harassers/abusers.

 
BoltBacker said:
Seems odd there is much fervor surrounding allegations against the guy PRETENDING to be the President. Didn't the actual President have an audio tape confessing that he grabbed women by their.....? Almost half the country voted for him anyway. 
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I'm not sure where you're going with this. Are you saying we should ignore the behavior in both cases?

 
As usual, everyone overreacts and now everyone's guilty until proven innocent.  There's some kind of line set up for people Spacey "molested" to report in on?

What in the hell is going on in this country?  The pendulum is really swinging way too far to the left.  For real, I'd be concerned about asking a girl out or making any kind of move on the first date were I single.  We have so many other huge problems to worry about but this bs is taking center stage.

 
James Daulton said:
As usual, everyone overreacts and now everyone's guilty until proven innocent.  There's some kind of line set up for people Spacey "molested" to report in on?

What in the hell is going on in this country?  The pendulum is really swinging way too far to the left.  For real, I'd be concerned about asking a girl out or making any kind of move on the first date were I single.  We have so many other huge problems to worry about but this bs is taking center stage.
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Harvey Weinstein repeatedly raping women and getting away with it because he was a powerful Hollywood figure is BS? 

Spacey, a guy that has a known reputation among a fair amount of Hollywood insiders for predatory behavior,    finally is called out for it and it is BS?

Strange take.

 
James Daulton said:
As usual, everyone overreacts and now everyone's guilty until proven innocent.  There's some kind of line set up for people Spacey "molested" to report in on?

What in the hell is going on in this country?  The pendulum is really swinging way too far to the left.  For real, I'd be concerned about asking a girl out or making any kind of move on the first date were I single.  We have so many other huge problems to worry about but this bs is taking center stage.
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Kevin Spacey: More allegations of sexual harassment surface

The Old Vic has set up a confidential complaints process for anyone connected to the 200-year-old theatre to come forward.

Its rarely an isolated incident with this type of predatory behavior 

 
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