Oh come on.Rhythmdoctor said:Why is she crazy? Because her claims seem outlandish?
After Chris Hardwick and James Franco faced accusations of sexual improprieties, they each contended with a raft of dismayed think pieces, social-media brickbats, and a backlash of public opinion; anyone who suggested the possibility of a comeback was immediately upbraided. Some months later, it’s clear that just not the case. AMC announced the end of Chris Hardwick’s suspension after investigating an abuse claim from his former girlfriend. Collider reported that James Franco is circling his first directing project since five women accused him of sexual harassment. (Franco had already been granted reentry to HBO’s second season of “The Deuce”). Meanwhile, Johnny Depp — accused of physically and verbally abusing ex-wife Amber Heard — was the biggest attraction at last week’s Comic-Con.
As the movement continues, different post-scandal fates have started to emerge. As a Vox headline noted this week, “Mel Gibson has set the blueprint for a #MeToo comeback. Expect other men to follow it.” The article delved into Gibson’s behavior (remember when Oksana Grigorieva said he knocked out her teeth?), with key strategies for returning to the public eye (don’t discuss the incident, let your friends do the talking, let time pass, and return in a mode slightly different than the one for which you were known).
However, looking at a dozen men who faced #MeToo accusations in the last year suggests that it may not be that complicated. TJ Miller will again voice Tuffnut for the next installment of the “How To Train Your Dragon” franchise. Harassment accusations against John Lasseter may have lasting impact on the former Disney and Pixar Animation Studio CCO’s career, although he currently remains on the companies’ payroll until the end of the year as a consultant.
Not all accusations are the same. Some, like the one made against Academy president John Bailey, were deemed baseless. At the other extreme, two people that the Academy elected to expel — Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby — will likely always be unwelcome; the third, Roman Polanski, continues to collaborate with the world’s top stars.
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What about Anzari? any update with him? master of none?Chris Hardwick's reinstatement hasn't yet been mentioned in this thread?
Any cultural movement has to operate within constraints else they get conflated with largely baseless panics (e.g. Salem Witch Trials, modern Satanists, 1980s day care abuse scares). The boundaries around #metoo are being formed gradually after the initial societal lurch.
Personally ... I could see Ansari starting work on either more Master of None or a new show altogether within a year from now. Laying low seems to work miracles for men facing the less-serious #metoo accusations.Regarding future seasons, Ansari told Vulture, "I don’t know if we’re going to do a season three. I wouldn’t be surprised if I needed a looonng [sic] break before I could come back to it [...] I’ve got to become a different guy before I write a third season, is my personal thought, I’ve got to get married or have a kid or something. I don’t have anything else to say about being a young guy being single in New York eating food around town all the time."
Is this the stuff Dodds believes?Ditkaless Wonders said:Tom Hanks hypnotized me, removed my ####, and replaced them with pentacles upon one of which was his likeness from his Bosom Buddies days and the other of which had a likeness of Wilson from his castaway movie.
Please share your tales of your violation(s) by Tom Hanks.
Being mental is like a box of chocolates....Rhythmdoctor said:Why is she crazy? Because her claims seem outlandish?
I read where he was back last night and he was on AGT. Good for himChris Hardwick's reinstatement hasn't yet been mentioned in this thread?
Any cultural movement has to operate within constraints else they get conflated with largely baseless panics (e.g. Salem Witch Trials, modern Satanists, 1980s day care abuse scares). The boundaries around #metoo are being formed gradually after the initial societal lurch.
So strange. Makes you wonder what was really going on for Anthony Bourdain to do what he did.Asia Argento photo with her accuser comes out - https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/entertainment/asia-argento-jimmy-bennett-photo/index.html
Seems kind of difficult to explain that photo if you Ms. Argento. I don't follow this stuff that closely but happened to see this link - crazy that's she's heavily involved in the metoo movement and this is happening.
She has come out and blamed the payment to this guy as Anthony’s idea. Nothing like throwing a dead guy under the bus.So strange. Makes you wonder what was really going on for Anthony Bourdain to do what he did.
wowShe has come out and blamed the payment to this guy as Anthony’s idea. Nothing like throwing a dead guy under the bus.
She also admits in a text message to a friend that she had sex with him.Asia Argento photo with her accuser comes out - https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/entertainment/asia-argento-jimmy-bennett-photo/index.html
Seems kind of difficult to explain that photo if you Ms. Argento. I don't follow this stuff that closely but happened to see this link - crazy that's she's heavily involved in the metoo movement and this is happening.
I'm still waiting for the rest of the facts to land... but yugh.She also admits in a text message to a friend that she had sex with him.Asia Argento photo with her accuser comes out - https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/entertainment/asia-argento-jimmy-bennett-photo/index.html
Seems kind of difficult to explain that photo if you Ms. Argento. I don't follow this stuff that closely but happened to see this link - crazy that's she's heavily involved in the metoo movement and this is happening.
Tony never had a chance once he entered into a relationship with her. Might as well of just started smack againI'm still waiting for the rest of the facts to land... but yugh.
so- if all true, does this change your (collective your) view of her accusations against weinstein?
I'll take that as "no".Tony never had a chance once he entered into a relationship with her. Might as well of just started smack again
No. These items don't cancel each other out. Plus, there's too much with Weinstein to ignore. The fact that some of his accusers may also be abusers doesn't discount that he (HW) was.I'm still waiting for the rest of the facts to land... but yugh.
so- if all true, does this change your (collective your) view of her accusations against weinstein?
It's possible for her to be a victim AND a bad person. They're not mutually exclusive.No. These items don't cancel each other out. Plus, there's too much with Weinstein to ignore. The fact that some of his accusers may also be abusers doesn't discount that he (HW) was.
That's what I was trying to say. Thanks for making it clearer than my dumb ### could.It's possible for her to be a victim AND a bad person. They're not mutually exclusive.
That's what I was trying to say. Thanks for making it clearer than my dumb ### could.
also heard that he may have been the one to actually pay it.She has come out and blamed the payment to this guy as Anthony’s idea. Nothing like throwing a dead guy under the bus.
This is certainly true but it would seem to help Harvey that one of his accusers has engaged in the same behavior she is accusing him of. Additionally, I read they have several emails from another of his accusers where she speaks fondly of him and seems to indicate the relationship was consensual.It's possible for her to be a victim AND a bad person. They're not mutually exclusive.
He paid $200k up front and then $10k a month.DA RAIDERS said:also heard that he may have been the one to actually pay it.
I could see the issue if he was 12. But 17? C’mon. I was living on my own at 17.I hate this dude so much. Why not just keep your mouth shut instead of looking like a dbag? Poor you kid, poor you, friendly reminder the kid was 17 when this went down.
"Many brave women and men have spoken out about their own experiences during the #metoo movement, and I appreciate the bravery that it took for each and every one of them to take such a stand. I did not initially speak out about my story because I chose to handle it in private with the person who wronged me. My trauma resurfaced as she came out as a victim herself. I have not made a public statement in the past days and hours because I was ashamed and afraid to be part of the public narrative. I was underage when the event took place, and I tried to seek justice in a way that made sense to me at the time because I was not ready to deal with the ramifications of my story becoming public. At the time I believed there was still a stigma to being in the situation as a male in our society. I didn't think that people would understand the event that took place from the eyes of a teenage boy. I have had to overcome many adversities in my life, and this is another that I will deal with, in time. I would like to move past this event in my life, and today I choose to move forward, no longer in silence."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/entertainment/jimmy-bennett-statement/index.html
I hate this dude so much. Why not just keep your mouth shut instead of looking like a dbag? Poor you kid, poor you, friendly reminder the kid was 17 when this went down.
"Many brave women and men have spoken out about their own experiences during the #metoo movement, and I appreciate the bravery that it took for each and every one of them to take such a stand. I did not initially speak out about my story becauseI chose to handle it in privateI was paid a ####load of money by the person who wronged me. My trauma resurfaced as she came out as a victim herself. I have not made a public statement in the past days and hours because I was ashamed and afraid to be part of the public narrative. I was underage when the event took place, and Itried to seek justicemade out like a bandit in a way that made sense to me at the time becauseI was not ready to deal with the ramifications of my story becoming public$200K and then $10k/month. At the time I believed therewas still a stigmaawesomeness to being in the situation as a male in our society.I didn't think that people would understand the event that took place from the eyes of a teenage boy. I have had to overcome many adversities in my life, and this is another that I will deal with, in time. I would like to move past this event in my life, and today I choose to move forward, no longer in silence.But now someone else is paying me more, so...here I am!!"
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/entertainment/jimmy-bennett-statement/index.html
What if the sexes were reversed?Lmao at adversity. 17 years old sleeping with a hot 37 year old. Whatever
what evidence?There is so much we don’t know but based on limited information I’ve concluded this broad is a POS. Evidence to suggest her stepping out on Anthony contributed to his tailspin. Who knows the deal with the 17 year old but she had to know if it ever comes out that she paid him off it looks awful for her. And it always comes out.
What if the sexes were reversed and the guy had been working with the 17yo girl since she was little?shadyridr said:Big deal
A little weird but not egregiousWhat if the sexes were reversed and the guy had been working with the 17yo girl since she was little?
You better believe that the women in Hollywood would certainly be the marching through the streets calling for justice for the girl and they would want the man’s head on a lance. It’s funny that I haven’t heard a peep from the ladies nowA little weird but not egregious
Not really but this broad has quite a set of balls or she is just a complete moron. Probably both.El Floppo said:I'm still waiting for the rest of the facts to land... but yugh.
so- if all true, does this change your (collective your) view of her accusations against weinstein?
I hope he didn't hurt himself with all that virtue signaling.pantherclub said:I hate this dude so much. Why not just keep your mouth shut instead of looking like a dbag? Poor you kid, poor you, friendly reminder the kid was 17 when this went down.
"Many brave women and men have spoken out about their own experiences during the #metoo movement, and I appreciate the bravery that it took for each and every one of them to take such a stand. I did not initially speak out about my story because I chose to handle it in private with the person who wronged me. My trauma resurfaced as she came out as a victim herself. I have not made a public statement in the past days and hours because I was ashamed and afraid to be part of the public narrative. I was underage when the event took place, and I tried to seek justice in a way that made sense to me at the time because I was not ready to deal with the ramifications of my story becoming public. At the time I believed there was still a stigma to being in the situation as a male in our society. I didn't think that people would understand the event that took place from the eyes of a teenage boy. I have had to overcome many adversities in my life, and this is another that I will deal with, in time. I would like to move past this event in my life, and today I choose to move forward, no longer in silence."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/entertainment/jimmy-bennett-statement/index.html
This is a good article examining the parallels between Asia as victim and victimizerWhat if the sexes were reversed and the guy had been working with the 17yo girl since she was little?
yeah, they call that groomingWhat if the sexes were reversed and the guy had been working with the 17yo girl since she was little?
That one didn’t gain traction, but two more women are accusing DeGrasse Tyson of inappropriate behavior. NatGeo is investigating.
Seems to have dried up and blown away.
His responses seem reasonable. These don't rise to "sexual assault" to me - not even close.Doug B said:Bumping for the weekday crowd.
The latest Degrasse Tyson stuff -- if nothing further comes out -- probably is not going to end up amounting to much in the end. Here's the original accusation details for those interested. And here is Tyson's response.