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The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
I always wear a baseball cap everywhere.....been a cap cripple since I lost hair at 30.....will switch to Derby hats at weddings and nice restaurants
Excluding models, celebrities and a few other professions dependent on appearance, the same can be said for just about everyone, especially in the FBG demographic. Some might argue it’s important for dating, but would you really want a partner who prioritizes your fashion sense?The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
No, but I wouldn't want to embarrass her either.Excluding models, celebrities and a few other professions dependent on appearance, the same can be said for just about everyone, especially in the FBG demographic. Some might argue it’s important for dating, but would you really want a partner who prioritizes your fashion sense?The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
And married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
And married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Laws? That is a ridiculous statement. Take that to the bank whatever.americans are funny because the same people that will start a thread like this complaining about how people dress would be the same people to complain if there was actually any type of a law about a dress code i think really most americans just like to complain take that to the bank brohans
I mean if I'm going to a funeral or somethingAnd married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Well, if you don’t dress like a slob, and dress properly for the occasion at hand, then I don’t think the OP really applies to you. Yes, it’s veered into discussions re expensive footwear and other fashion debates, but really, we Americans are becoming increasingly slobbish in our dress compared to other countries. It’s just a fact. We can deny it or we can own it proudly.
Never understood the infatuation with hoodies. Especially wearing shorts. I can see it if it's raining. But then I never understood why people wear a knit cap in the summer or sunglasses indoors.I mean if I'm going to a funeral or somethingAnd married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Well, if you don’t dress like a slob, and dress properly for the occasion at hand, then I don’t think the OP really applies to you. Yes, it’s veered into discussions re expensive footwear and other fashion debates, but really, we Americans are becoming increasingly slobbish in our dress compared to other countries. It’s just a fact. We can deny it or we can own it proudly.
If I'm going to Italy - I'll be the awful american wearing sneakers and golf shorts...... I might look like a slob to others though.
I mean most of the time im in gym shorts, hoodie and my Olukai slides (with or without socks)......![]()
Because it keeps me warm and if it gets hot i can take it off easilyNever understood the infatuation with hoodies. Especially wearing shorts. I can see it if it's raining. But then I never understood why people wear a knit cap in the summer or sunglasses indoors.I mean if I'm going to a funeral or somethingAnd married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Well, if you don’t dress like a slob, and dress properly for the occasion at hand, then I don’t think the OP really applies to you. Yes, it’s veered into discussions re expensive footwear and other fashion debates, but really, we Americans are becoming increasingly slobbish in our dress compared to other countries. It’s just a fact. We can deny it or we can own it proudly.
If I'm going to Italy - I'll be the awful american wearing sneakers and golf shorts...... I might look like a slob to others though.
I mean most of the time im in gym shorts, hoodie and my Olukai slides (with or without socks)......![]()
I can respect that. Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?Because it keeps me warm and if it gets hot i can take it offNever understood the infatuation with hoodies. Especially wearing shorts. I can see it if it's raining. But then I never understood why people wear a knit cap in the summer or sunglasses indoors.I mean if I'm going to a funeral or somethingAnd married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Well, if you don’t dress like a slob, and dress properly for the occasion at hand, then I don’t think the OP really applies to you. Yes, it’s veered into discussions re expensive footwear and other fashion debates, but really, we Americans are becoming increasingly slobbish in our dress compared to other countries. It’s just a fact. We can deny it or we can own it proudly.
If I'm going to Italy - I'll be the awful american wearing sneakers and golf shorts...... I might look like a slob to others though.
I mean most of the time im in gym shorts, hoodie and my Olukai slides (with or without socks)......![]()
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Objection!Compared to much of the rest of the world, a greater percentage of Americans simply don’t care what others think
Sounds like we're not spending enough according to a lot of folks in this thread.Objection!Compared to much of the rest of the world, a greater percentage of Americans simply don’t care what others think
Yer honor, I have 100 years of purchases made by American consumers right here to refute the assertion of the able counsel.
Who decides what “dress properly” means?And married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Well, if you don’t dress like a slob, and dress properly for the occasion at hand, then I don’t think the OP really applies to you. Yes, it’s veered into discussions re expensive footwear and other fashion debates, but really, we Americans are becoming increasingly slobbish in our dress compared to other countries. It’s just a fact. We can deny it or we can own it proudly.
Who cares?I can respect that. Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?Because it keeps me warm and if it gets hot i can take it offNever understood the infatuation with hoodies. Especially wearing shorts. I can see it if it's raining. But then I never understood why people wear a knit cap in the summer or sunglasses indoors.I mean if I'm going to a funeral or somethingAnd married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Well, if you don’t dress like a slob, and dress properly for the occasion at hand, then I don’t think the OP really applies to you. Yes, it’s veered into discussions re expensive footwear and other fashion debates, but really, we Americans are becoming increasingly slobbish in our dress compared to other countries. It’s just a fact. We can deny it or we can own it proudly.
If I'm going to Italy - I'll be the awful american wearing sneakers and golf shorts...... I might look like a slob to others though.
I mean most of the time im in gym shorts, hoodie and my Olukai slides (with or without socks)......![]()
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Just curious.Who cares?I can respect that. Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?Because it keeps me warm and if it gets hot i can take it offNever understood the infatuation with hoodies. Especially wearing shorts. I can see it if it's raining. But then I never understood why people wear a knit cap in the summer or sunglasses indoors.I mean if I'm going to a funeral or somethingAnd married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Well, if you don’t dress like a slob, and dress properly for the occasion at hand, then I don’t think the OP really applies to you. Yes, it’s veered into discussions re expensive footwear and other fashion debates, but really, we Americans are becoming increasingly slobbish in our dress compared to other countries. It’s just a fact. We can deny it or we can own it proudly.
If I'm going to Italy - I'll be the awful american wearing sneakers and golf shorts...... I might look like a slob to others though.
I mean most of the time im in gym shorts, hoodie and my Olukai slides (with or without socks)......![]()
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Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?
Yep. My son has social anxiety and wears a hoodie when he feels uncomfortable, even in warm weather.Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?
By the way many wear them in stifling heat -- hood up and partially hiding the face -- it's kind of as a "shield" from the outside world. There's some psychology at work with hoodies sometimes.
Very very interesting statement. I would like to learn more.Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?
By the way many wear them in stifling heat -- hood up and partially hiding the face -- it's kind of as a "shield" from the outside world. There's some psychology at work with hoodies sometimes.
Could this be tied to less social interaction face-to-face? The younger generation seem to want all their social interaction via their devices. Not sure really.Yep. My son has social anxiety and wears a hoodie when he feels uncomfortable, even in warm weather.Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?
By the way many wear them in stifling heat -- hood up and partially hiding the face -- it's kind of as a "shield" from the outside world. There's some psychology at work with hoodies sometimes.
There's an old saying among poor people:Sounds like we're not spending enough according to a lot of folks in this thread
When did this become more prevalent and why? I don't recall this being a thing for most of my life.People don't want to be recognized......and or intimidating
1980s early 90sWhen did this become more prevalent and why? I don't recall this being a thing for most of my life.People don't want to be recognized......and or intimidating
When did this become more prevalent and why? I don't recall this being a thing for most of my life.
The unibomber started the trend.1980s early 90sWhen did this become more prevalent and why? I don't recall this being a thing for most of my life.People don't want to be recognized......and or intimidating
I believe it originated in black culture and white guys took hold like they normally do. Same with hat fashion and the straight bill and tags on the hat before that.The unibomber started the trend.1980s early 90sWhen did this become more prevalent and why? I don't recall this being a thing for most of my life.People don't want to be recognized......and or intimidating
Well yeah, admittedly I'm going to clean up for a wedding or something. And even when I'm just out and about, I don't really dress like a "slob," just as an unfashionable middle-aged guy.And married for 23 years...... I'm not a slob but i wear whatever i like....... i also will dress for an occasion properly -------The nice thing about being a 50 year old dad is that I can dress the way I like and it doesn't matter whether anybody else approves or not. What do I care if some European guy thinks I'm not dressed stylishly enough?
Could this be tied to less social interaction face-to-face? The younger generation seem to want all their social interaction via their devices. Not sure really.Yep. My son has social anxiety and wears a hoodie when he feels uncomfortable, even in warm weather.Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?
By the way many wear them in stifling heat -- hood up and partially hiding the face -- it's kind of as a "shield" from the outside world. There's some psychology at work with hoodies sometimes.
While what you say is probably true, I think it's more of a fashion statement than hiding socially. Just like wearing a hot wool knit hat in hot weather. Now that one takes the cake, LOL.Could this be tied to less social interaction face-to-face? The younger generation seem to want all their social interaction via their devices. Not sure really.Yep. My son has social anxiety and wears a hoodie when he feels uncomfortable, even in warm weather.Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?
By the way many wear them in stifling heat -- hood up and partially hiding the face -- it's kind of as a "shield" from the outside world. There's some psychology at work with hoodies sometimes.
There's always been plenty of shy and socially anxious people. We just have a name for it now.
I'm also a hat guy but I haven't done the backwards hat thing in probably 15-20 years.I always wear a baseball cap everywhere.....been a cap cripple since I lost hair at 30.....will switch to Derby hats at weddings and nice restaurants
Thats OK, just not backwards I hope.
I do when shooting pool. The bill gets in the way.I'm also a hat guy but I haven't done the backwards hat thing in probably 15-20 years.I always wear a baseball cap everywhere.....been a cap cripple since I lost hair at 30.....will switch to Derby hats at weddings and nice restaurants
Thats OK, just not backwards I hope.
Sounds like you do have thoughts on that. I’ll just say my experiences are that shoes- especially sneakers- are very important in the Black community.I don’t either. But considering Black women make up like 7% of the US population, I doubt there are huge numbers of them who are into high-end sneakers.I was talking in the Black community. I don’t think I’m able to make any sort of comment on how Black women feel about expensive shoes like Jordans, Yeezys, etc.Exactly my point. All style is subjective, but the high-end sneaker niche is especially limited to young dudes in cities, and those trying to emulate them.That's probably a cultural thing though.Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messengerI think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?
I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.
What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?
I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.![]()
My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.
My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.
ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.
The rest of the world isn’t impressed, including most members of the opposite sex.
One comparison is high end purses. Some women fawn over them, but nearly no guys care. And despite costing hundred-thousands of $, many look pretty silly to the untrained eye.
Difference is, high end purses are appealing to a much larger segment of the female population.
It does reflect their population and their social circles. It’s all cultural. Like we said, expectations now are different than 30 years ago. Expectations for Philly are different from Key West too,To young males? Sure. I don’t know about AA women, but even if they all love Air whatevs, their opinion doesn’t reflect that of the general population. IMO, the vast, vast majority of people are indifferent to high-end sneakers, at best.Sounds like you do have thoughts on that. I’ll just say my experiences are that shoes- especially sneakers- are very important in the Black community.I don’t either. But considering Black women make up like 7% of the US population, I doubt there are huge numbers of them who are into high-end sneakers.I was talking in the Black community. I don’t think I’m able to make any sort of comment on how Black women feel about expensive shoes like Jordans, Yeezys, etc.Exactly my point. All style is subjective, but the high-end sneaker niche is especially limited to young dudes in cities, and those trying to emulate them.That's probably a cultural thing though.Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messengerI think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?
I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.
What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?
I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.![]()
My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.
My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.
ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.
The rest of the world isn’t impressed, including most members of the opposite sex.
One comparison is high end purses. Some women fawn over them, but nearly no guys care. And despite costing hundred-thousands of $, many look pretty silly to the untrained eye.
Difference is, high end purses are appealing to a much larger segment of the female population.
With such a small percentage of the population falling for the marketing, it’s hard to call them particularly stylish. Doesn’t mean they aren’t big business though.
I found a pair of Oakley hybrid shorts at Goodwill. Bought them not knowing what they actually were but figured it out. Love them. Look dressy, are super comfortable, and can double as swim trunks.Those are reasonable but IWhat I landed on was THESE for a change of pace. I have couple different colors now.I agree with most of that. A good simple boot works well for me. Also, clean and plain “tennis shoes” are totally acceptable with dress pants now. This is good for the summer.Shoes are always the sticking point for me and where I struggle the most. This was the issue for me in other threads like the driving shoes thread and others. I think most shoes are UGLY, and I just write it off as a me problem. I am sure those shoes are comfy and are the style now, but you couldn't get me to wear them out, let alone pay $150-200 for them. If I am being honest, it's the socks/shoes part that prevents me from doing more than my jeans and Opeth shirts on a daily basis because I can just wear my tennis shoes. I put on brown pants, I have to worry about what else to wear and it's eitherIf I am within sprinting distance of a body of water, flip flops are OK for me. Otherwise, I would never. Flip flops in any restaurant are, to me, like wearing Crocs to a wedding.
I won't wear them out. I have nice soft leather sandals, that look great with linen or khaki pants.
I also have a pair of SWIMS, and man these are a guilty pleasure. Waterproof, you can walk along the beach, hose them down, and wear them to dinner.or
when I see what I am "supposed to" wear with it. I am not going full Dad/old man and wearing tennis shoes with Dockers, I hate most other shoes, so....
just a little at $150 swim trunks
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@Aaron RudnickiI always wear a baseball cap everywhere.....been a cap cripple since I lost hair at 30.....will switch to Derby hats at weddings and nice restaurants
Thats OK, just not backwards I hope.
Not much. Swap out that Eagles hoodie for a Tommy Bahama, and I think you're ready to roll.Expectations for Philly are different from Key West
Pretty sure the Chinese have surpassed us there. Their cultural background is very different where things like taking turns, waiting in line, being respectful of those around you, etc aren’t really a thing in a lot of areas. But with a rapidly growing upper and middle class, they are traveling a lot now.Is Europe the entire rest of the world?
Ok, well I would dress differently for a nice dinner out in the city than I would in a beach town.Not much. Swap out that Eagles hoodie for a Tommy Bahama, and I think you're ready to roll.Expectations for Philly are different from Key West
It might be a statement for some people. I can assure you that my son — who has zero sense in general, much less fashion specific — is not making a statement.While what you say is probably true, I think it's more of a fashion statement than hiding socially. Just like wearing a hot wool knit hat in hot weather. Now that one takes the cake, LOL.Could this be tied to less social interaction face-to-face? The younger generation seem to want all their social interaction via their devices. Not sure really.Yep. My son has social anxiety and wears a hoodie when he feels uncomfortable, even in warm weather.Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?
By the way many wear them in stifling heat -- hood up and partially hiding the face -- it's kind of as a "shield" from the outside world. There's some psychology at work with hoodies sometimes.
There's always been plenty of shy and socially anxious people. We just have a name for it now.
Thus the reason why used the words "more of a fashion statement", not that your son is. I didn't mean to insinuate otherwise. I get it, some people use it as you described.It might be a statement for some people. I can assure you that my son — who has zero sense in general, much less fashion specific — is not making a statement.While what you say is probably true, I think it's more of a fashion statement than hiding socially. Just like wearing a hot wool knit hat in hot weather. Now that one takes the cake, LOL.Could this be tied to less social interaction face-to-face? The younger generation seem to want all their social interaction via their devices. Not sure really.Yep. My son has social anxiety and wears a hoodie when he feels uncomfortable, even in warm weather.Why do people wear a hoodie on their head when it's 90 degrees outside?
By the way many wear them in stifling heat -- hood up and partially hiding the face -- it's kind of as a "shield" from the outside world. There's some psychology at work with hoodies sometimes.
There's always been plenty of shy and socially anxious people. We just have a name for it now.
I BET YOU ARE A BLAST AT PARTIES.Exactly the response I expectedWho cares?
I think they also cut the lining out. Think it’s a comfort thing I guess?Ok since bathing suits has come up. You guys don’t wear anything under your suits right? Every guy under 30 seems to wear boxer briefs or basketball shorts under their suit. It’s weird. Has anyone noticed this?