Hoart Petterson
Footballguy
I guess I should read the rules next time.
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- Thread starter Doug Drinen
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Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
Donsmith753
Footballguy
kardplayer
Footballguy
19th overall. Not bad.
My stats by day of pick:
Thursday - 51.1%
Friday - 53.5%
Saturday - 66.7%
Wondering how that compares - did the questions get "easier" or was I just on fire
My stats by day of pick:
Thursday - 51.1%
Friday - 53.5%
Saturday - 66.7%
Wondering how that compares - did the questions get "easier" or was I just on fire
Doug Drinen
Moderator
Yes and no. While it's true that 53.3% isn't that much higher than 50%, it is enough higher (given the sample size) that it's clearly better.
If you flipped a coin 38267 times, there is no way you'd get 20388 heads or more. If everyone in the world flipped a coin 38267 times, there is now way anyone would get 20388 heads or more*.
* - unless I made a mistake. It's early and I'm in a hurry. I get that 20388 is more than 12 standard deviations away from the mean. Someone please double-check.
On the ranking page (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/wdis/rankings.php?pos=qb) can we get the opponent for each player listed as well?
Doug Drinen
Moderator
Unless there's a bug, the answer should be no.
Doug, FYI, I got an error today when I entered my picks. The last defense question had "Detriot vs. - "I clicked on Detriot and submitted, then it told me I was submitting an illegal entry. I refreshed and filled in the questions again and it worked.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I hope not, considering I came in lastYou sure they weren't all just cheating off of Modog's paper?-QG
Hoart Petterson
Footballguy
Serious question: qualify for what?
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
You still haven't read the rules?
apalmer
Footballguy
$$$$$$$$$$$
Hoart Petterson
Footballguy
I think I have. Based on the results seems like a lot of people were confused. I just saw a bunch of questions and answered them. Aside from that i guess I thought "qualify" meant qualify to move forward. I'm doing like 8 things at once, that's probably why I'm struggling here.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
You need to answer X number of questions per week to qualify. I think now it's 60, last week it was 125 or something like that.
baconisgood
Footballguy
It is also week 1- the week with the least information. In general I would expect this to have been the worst week.
inyoutees
Footballguy
Fun times. 14th in week 1, which I expect to be my high point of the season. Not bad for basically going from the gut to see how it played out.
One suggestion: on the results page, perhaps add a space between the scores? I thought there was a bug with my win:
Fri Atlanta Falcons - ATL over Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT win 7.40--7.50
Until I realized it was really:
Fri Atlanta Falcons - ATL over Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT win 7.40 vs -7.50
Point being that negative numbers don't display particularly well. Not a big deal.
One suggestion: on the results page, perhaps add a space between the scores? I thought there was a bug with my win:
Fri Atlanta Falcons - ATL over Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT win 7.40--7.50
Until I realized it was really:
Fri Atlanta Falcons - ATL over Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT win 7.40 vs -7.50
Point being that negative numbers don't display particularly well. Not a big deal.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
FWIW the first one of these i tried to submit had an error. in the Defense category one of the options only had CHI vs NO and the second slot was blank.
However, when I tried to submit it, it wouldn't accept it, asking "are you trying to submit an illegal entry?"
I went back and refreshed, it gave me a new set of choices, and then took those.
In the first one I actually typed 5-6 comments, did none in the second.
You should actually give some kind of bonus pts/credit for those submitting comments, as that takes a lot longer than just clicking through a set of data pts.
However, when I tried to submit it, it wouldn't accept it, asking "are you trying to submit an illegal entry?"
I went back and refreshed, it gave me a new set of choices, and then took those.
In the first one I actually typed 5-6 comments, did none in the second.
You should actually give some kind of bonus pts/credit for those submitting comments, as that takes a lot longer than just clicking through a set of data pts.
apalmer
Footballguy
But then you have to decide whether to give credit for comments like "McNabb stinks". If you do, you'll get a bunch of worthless comments (just enough to get the extra credit). If you don't, all you do is start disputes about what's a worthless comment and what isn't.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Agree this should be pinned so people can find it
Doug Drinen
Moderator
I think an email was sent to the list on Tuesday night, but there may have been some issues with it, because I don't think I got that email. We certainly don't want to exclude anyone.
In any event, there are links to all of it on the weekly content page:
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2011/11week2.php
Top of the right-hand column.
In any event, there are links to all of it on the weekly content page:
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2011/11week2.php
Top of the right-hand column.
thatguythere
Footballguy
So everyone is still in and the season starts now? I didn't read them well either and picked once.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Doesn't seem to be working for me, I don't get a text box next to "or this guy:" so I can only enter one player.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Enter a guy, Iggy. When you start typing a pull-down box appears and you select dude #1. Once you do this, the 2nd box will appear.-QGDoesn't seem to be working for me, I don't get a text box next to "or this guy:" so I can only enter one player.
Tickle Monster
Footballguy
Jayrok
Footballguy
What do the columns mean? 85 135 0 62.9662% and 0 ties, but what is the 85 and 135? And how do we know how we did each week, by a link on the subscriber home page? Or do we check for your post in this thread?
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
85 = number correct135 = total answered-QG
Doug Drinen
Moderator
Right now, the standings and results pages are admittedly very bare-bones, as I've been working on making sure all the other stuff is running smooth. At some point I'll make those results pages more functional, perhaps even with sorting and filtering and such. Feel free to post requests here.
Doug Drinen
Moderator
Just over 200 people eligible this week. Another 250 or so could become eligible if they answer some questions today.
I don't think you should allow folks to "strategize" by not answering the K or D questions. As set up, I could answer questions all four days and avoid the hardest questions each day.
If the goal is a "contest", then contestants should be able to take advantage of the rules, etc.
But if the goal is to create a WOC output that is valuable to subscribers and reward those for participation, then make everyone answer every question they get. Otherwise, the K and D rankings will be subpar and we don't get the WOC on the real hard decisions each week. It also reduces the skill involved (the better contestant can figure out Ks as well as QBs).
I also liked the 50 questions a week to get more data for the rankings. It didn't take much time. Go with your gut.
The rules should also have some factor for rewarding for more questions answered. Again, this inentivizes more data for the WOC rankings.
If the goal is a "contest", then contestants should be able to take advantage of the rules, etc.
But if the goal is to create a WOC output that is valuable to subscribers and reward those for participation, then make everyone answer every question they get. Otherwise, the K and D rankings will be subpar and we don't get the WOC on the real hard decisions each week. It also reduces the skill involved (the better contestant can figure out Ks as well as QBs).
I also liked the 50 questions a week to get more data for the rankings. It didn't take much time. Go with your gut.
The rules should also have some factor for rewarding for more questions answered. Again, this inentivizes more data for the WOC rankings.
apalmer
Footballguy
If people aren't making a choice, it means they don't have the necessary confidence level to do so. Forcing them to flip a coin doesn't help the validity of the WOC rankings. It only gives a false impression of how many people thought kicker A was a better choice than kicker B. I'd rather see an accurate measure of a smaller sample size than a bogus measure of a larger sample size.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Umm you know that the 'hours of calculation' are done for you if you just wait.So ten minutes making picks gives me 3rd place and pays me almost double what I got for the hours of calculations and 16 weeks of watching scores in last year's Subscriber contest? I like it.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I just answer them all, though I must've skipped one by accident cuz I have 99 entries. That and I think I missed a whole day. I think people should have to answer the entire block of questions personally, as the last poster was right. If K/D are harder to predict you know some schmuck is gonna skip those ones...
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
since the FBG rankers don't get to pass on anyone in a given week, I don't think we should either. They are forced to make the same calls even when they don't like the outcome Like when I had Kerry collins vs luke mcknown :X
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
are the individual results listed? What kind of % did it take to 'place' last week.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
FWIW I posted a link to it in the "pinned threads" thread
apalmer
Footballguy
The hours of calculations were before Week 1. I don't think anyone was going to do them for me. Thanks anyway.Umm you know that the 'hours of calculation' are done for you if you just wait.So ten minutes making picks gives me 3rd place and pays me almost double what I got for the hours of calculations and 16 weeks of watching scores in last year's Subscriber contest? I like it.
apalmer
Footballguy
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