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Anyone watching this court stuff about the hot car kid death? (1 Viewer)

MC Gas Money said:
The Commish said:
krista4 said:
Why the hell would anyone have life insurance on a two-year-old??
Both my kids are covered. They are 6 and 2 :oldunsure:
Idk why people think its odd to have health insurance on their small childten. Its wise to have it for every family member. Its not just that funerals are expensive but there could also be substantial medical bills if the death follows a prolonged illness
Its odd because most people don't carry insurance on anyone. Insuring children seems like a luxury.
It is beyond the means of most and is an uncommon luxury, but I dont think its in any way odd to insure as many family members you can regardless of age.

 
MC Gas Money said:
The Commish said:
krista4 said:
Why the hell would anyone have life insurance on a two-year-old??
Both my kids are covered. They are 6 and 2 :oldunsure:
Idk why people think its odd to have health insurance on their small childten. Its wise to have it for every family member. Its not just that funerals are expensive but there could also be substantial medical bills if the death follows a prolonged illness
Its odd because most people don't carry insurance on anyone. Insuring children seems like a luxury.
It is beyond the means of most and is an uncommon luxury, but I dont think its in any way odd to insure as many family members you can regardless of age.
I admire anyone who can afford to insure their children. I work my ### off to feed, clothe, and shelter mine.

 
I have two kids and could afford to have insurance on both. I do not and have never even considered the idea.

 
I have two kids and could afford to have insurance on both. I do not and have never even considered the idea.
Im sure its not somethimg a psrent would want to think about.Now that you have will you get them life insurance?
Probably not.
Why not?

Do you think it brings a bad omem?

If unforunatly one of your children passed away because of a prolonged illness tjat left large medical bills wouldnt you rather not have that affect your ability to provide as much as possible to the sibling by having life insurance?

 
I have two kids and could afford to have insurance on both. I do not and have never even considered the idea.
Im sure its not somethimg a psrent would want to think about.Now that you have will you get them life insurance?
Probably not.
Why not?Do you think it brings a bad omem?

If unforunatly one of your children passed away because of a prolonged illness tjat left large medical bills wouldnt you rather not have that affect your ability to provide as much as possible to the sibling by having life insurance?
We have good health insurance. I'm not really worried about medical bills.

 
I have two kids and could afford to have insurance on both. I do not and have never even considered the idea.
Im sure its not somethimg a psrent would want to think about.Now that you have will you get them life insurance?
Probably not.
Why not?Do you think it brings a bad omem?

If unforunatly one of your children passed away because of a prolonged illness tjat left large medical bills wouldnt you rather not have that affect your ability to provide as much as possible to the sibling by having life insurance?
We have good health insurance. I'm not really worried about medical bills.
You have 100% complete coverage for any medical scenario?

 
↑ someone saif earlier that it was much less expensive to insure children
How many children do you insure?
Insurance through my work offers $10K child policy for about 10 cents per paycheck. I insure both of my kids.
My workplace automatically ensures any child that you have on the company healthcare plan for free. So I have insurance on my son that lives with his mother. I did nothing, nor paid anything, for the policy other than list him as a dependent for medical insurance purposes.

 
krista4 said:
bigbottom said:
krista4 said:
Sorry to the detour on insurance, which as I pointed out I didn't find damning.

One thing I don't understand is that they seem to be simultaneously arguing that this is, as someone mentioned, a "Scott Peterson" type case where the guy wanted to ditch his wife and kid, but at the same time they had testimony that the wife said "You didn't say too much, did you", implying she might be in on it as well (along with the searches she had done as previously reported). I guess the answer at this point is just that the prosecutors don't have to prove a motive and are just throwing out anything that might look damning? I can't get much read on what the chances are she was involved, too.
Yeah, it sounds like she may have been in on it. I'm seriously praying that there's a reasonable explanation for all of the evidence being discussed. Because it would really suck to live in a world where this kind of unspeakable evil exists.
:goodposting:
Sorry guys but this likely isn't even close to the most unspeakably evil thing that happened that day. Humans are not really all that awesome to each other.

 
krista4 said:
Why the hell would anyone have life insurance on a two-year-old??
I have a whole life policy on my 7 yr old that we got awhile ago. helps cover costs if anything would happen, and gives him options when he turns of age to buy stuff himself. cheap to add on to existing policies.eta: sorry, this was answered about 15 times.

 
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krista4 said:
bigbottom said:
krista4 said:
Sorry to the detour on insurance, which as I pointed out I didn't find damning.

One thing I don't understand is that they seem to be simultaneously arguing that this is, as someone mentioned, a "Scott Peterson" type case where the guy wanted to ditch his wife and kid, but at the same time they had testimony that the wife said "You didn't say too much, did you", implying she might be in on it as well (along with the searches she had done as previously reported). I guess the answer at this point is just that the prosecutors don't have to prove a motive and are just throwing out anything that might look damning? I can't get much read on what the chances are she was involved, too.
Yeah, it sounds like she may have been in on it. I'm seriously praying that there's a reasonable explanation for all of the evidence being discussed. Because it would really suck to live in a world where this kind of unspeakable evil exists.
:goodposting:
Sorry guys but this likely isn't even close to the most unspeakably evil thing that happened that day. Humans are not really all that awesome to each other.
To my point. A 16 year old Palestinian boy was kidnapped and burned alive in retaliation for the death of 3 Israeli teens. Not sure which is worse really but this is a sick evil world populated by sick evil people.

 
krista4 said:
bigbottom said:
krista4 said:
Sorry to the detour on insurance, which as I pointed out I didn't find damning.

One thing I don't understand is that they seem to be simultaneously arguing that this is, as someone mentioned, a "Scott Peterson" type case where the guy wanted to ditch his wife and kid, but at the same time they had testimony that the wife said "You didn't say too much, did you", implying she might be in on it as well (along with the searches she had done as previously reported). I guess the answer at this point is just that the prosecutors don't have to prove a motive and are just throwing out anything that might look damning? I can't get much read on what the chances are she was involved, too.
Yeah, it sounds like she may have been in on it. I'm seriously praying that there's a reasonable explanation for all of the evidence being discussed. Because it would really suck to live in a world where this kind of unspeakable evil exists.
:goodposting:
Sorry guys but this likely isn't even close to the most unspeakably evil thing that happened that day. Humans are not really all that awesome to each other.
To my point. A 16 year old Palestinian boy was kidnapped and burned alive in retaliation for the death of 3 Israeli teens. Not sure which is worse really but this is a sick evil world populated by sick evil people.
OTOH, I found a loose dog today and returned it to its home.

 
krista4 said:
bigbottom said:
krista4 said:
Sorry to the detour on insurance, which as I pointed out I didn't find damning.

One thing I don't understand is that they seem to be simultaneously arguing that this is, as someone mentioned, a "Scott Peterson" type case where the guy wanted to ditch his wife and kid, but at the same time they had testimony that the wife said "You didn't say too much, did you", implying she might be in on it as well (along with the searches she had done as previously reported). I guess the answer at this point is just that the prosecutors don't have to prove a motive and are just throwing out anything that might look damning? I can't get much read on what the chances are she was involved, too.
Yeah, it sounds like she may have been in on it. I'm seriously praying that there's a reasonable explanation for all of the evidence being discussed. Because it would really suck to live in a world where this kind of unspeakable evil exists.
:goodposting:
Sorry guys but this likely isn't even close to the most unspeakably evil thing that happened that day. Humans are not really all that awesome to each other.
I dont know. my feeling is there better be a special place I hell for people who harm kids, and an even worse place for people who do it to their own children. this has to be a horrible way to die. makes me cry and I had to go hug my son after reading about these #######s.

 
krista4 said:
bigbottom said:
krista4 said:
Sorry to the detour on insurance, which as I pointed out I didn't find damning.

One thing I don't understand is that they seem to be simultaneously arguing that this is, as someone mentioned, a "Scott Peterson" type case where the guy wanted to ditch his wife and kid, but at the same time they had testimony that the wife said "You didn't say too much, did you", implying she might be in on it as well (along with the searches she had done as previously reported). I guess the answer at this point is just that the prosecutors don't have to prove a motive and are just throwing out anything that might look damning? I can't get much read on what the chances are she was involved, too.
Yeah, it sounds like she may have been in on it. I'm seriously praying that there's a reasonable explanation for all of the evidence being discussed. Because it would really suck to live in a world where this kind of unspeakable evil exists.
:goodposting:
Sorry guys but this likely isn't even close to the most unspeakably evil thing that happened that day. Humans are not really all that awesome to each other.
To my point. A 16 year old Palestinian boy was kidnapped and burned alive in retaliation for the death of 3 Israeli teens. Not sure which is worse really but this is a sick evil world populated by sick evil people.
OTOH, I found a loose dog today and returned it to its home.
I am sure his family was very happy, nice of you to do,

 
This may sound horrible so bare with me....

Kids cost a ton of money (food, sports/entertainment, college savings, etc.). You could make a great argument that the savings here due to a kid passing away early offsets the need for life insurance.

Not something good to think about I know.

No need for life insurance, imo. It's usually meant to replace lost income from a working adult (spouse, parent, etc.)

 
This may sound horrible so bare with me....

Kids cost a ton of money (food, sports/entertainment, college savings, etc.). You could make a great argument that the savings here due to a kid passing away early offsets the need for life insurance.

Not something good to think about I know.

No need for life insurance, imo. It's usually meant to replace lost income from a working adult (spouse, parent, etc.)
The typical traditional funeral runs between 8-10 thousands dollars.

 
This may sound horrible so bare with me....

Kids cost a ton of money (food, sports/entertainment, college savings, etc.). You could make a great argument that the savings here due to a kid passing away early offsets the need for life insurance.

Not something good to think about I know.

No need for life insurance, imo. It's usually meant to replace lost income from a working adult (spouse, parent, etc.)
The typical traditional funeral runs between 8-10 thousands dollars.
And?

 
This may sound horrible so bare with me....

Kids cost a ton of money (food, sports/entertainment, college savings, etc.). You could make a great argument that the savings here due to a kid passing away early offsets the need for life insurance.

Not something good to think about I know.

No need for life insurance, imo. It's usually meant to replace lost income from a working adult (spouse, parent, etc.)
Yes, lost income from a grieving parent(s) who must take time off of work. And of course, to pay for funeral costs.

We're not talking hundreds of thousands here.

It is one less pint of beer a month to have peace of mind and short term financial help should anything terrible happen.

 
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This may sound horrible so bare with me....

Kids cost a ton of money (food, sports/entertainment, college savings, etc.). You could make a great argument that the savings here due to a kid passing away early offsets the need for life insurance.

Not something good to think about I know.

No need for life insurance, imo. It's usually meant to replace lost income from a working adult (spouse, parent, etc.)
that is true, and I know I am not the typical high rolling fbg. a funeral would wipe us out financially and it would give a slight cushion for returning to work slower. add to that the cheap cost and the hopefully added benefit of him having a policy that he can take over or borrow against as an adult, etc. there are a lot worse things to spend money on a month.

 
This may sound horrible so bare with me....

Kids cost a ton of money (food, sports/entertainment, college savings, etc.). You could make a great argument that the savings here due to a kid passing away early offsets the need for life insurance.

Not something good to think about I know.

No need for life insurance, imo. It's usually meant to replace lost income from a working adult (spouse, parent, etc.)
The typical traditional funeral runs between 8-10 thousands dollars.
And?
That's what the insurance is for. Glad you have ten k laying around. I wouldn't. Most people don't.

 
I have two kids and could afford to have insurance on both. I do not and have never even considered the idea.
Im sure its not somethimg a psrent would want to think about.Now that you have will you get them life insurance?
Probably not.
Why not?Do you think it brings a bad omem?

If unforunatly one of your children passed away because of a prolonged illness tjat left large medical bills wouldnt you rather not have that affect your ability to provide as much as possible to the sibling by having life insurance?
We have good health insurance. I'm not really worried about medical bills.
There are some pretty good investment vehicles in insurance policies as well. Mine is both for protection against the unthinkable and the beginnings of a nest egg for the kids.

 
This guy needs to fry. I watched yesterday and he is guilty as hell. It was 30 seconds from chickfilet to make the turn toward the daycare. You forgot about your kid after strapping him in his car seat 30 seconds later??!! He's shown to go to his car in the afternoon to put something in there, cops say that there was a strong stench in the car--- I mean there's a ton of things that point that way but then again, it will probably be a Casey Anthony case where he will walk.

I couldn't get over the wife's reaction in court, I mean lack of. No emotion. She was heard asking him if he talked too much. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a group effort. And to boot, he was checking out websites about being childless. Just sounds like they wanted out of being parents.

The defense lawyer yesterday when questioning the cop couldn't get anything to help his case. It was funny.

I hope he gets his for killing his child, even if it happens to be an accident which I can't see it being one.

 
$10k funerals? Jesus. Screw that.

Cremate me, put me on the mantle for a while, spread my ashes in San Francisco Bay, buy a keg of good beer, put on good music. Tell stories. Have fun.

 
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The defense lawyer yesterday when questioning the cop couldn't get anything to help his case. It was funny.
Cases like this maybe the defense does "just enough" to defend his client but the attorney knows it's a lost cause anyway. Lawyer has to tell him,"no matter what I do, you're going to fry." So, he makes it look good and by the end of the trial everyone calls it a day.

 
Billy Bats said:
Meanwhile, when the boys mother, Leanna Harris, arrived at a day care center to pick the boy up, employees there told her Cooper had never been dropped off, the detective said.

Ross must have left him in the car, she replied, according to Stoddard. Witnesses said they tried to tell her many other things could have happened, but Leanna Harris insisted that Ross Harris must have left him in the car, Stoddard said.
Is that anyone else's first thought? Not even oh I hope he didn't, almost sounds like she's implying oh today's the day.He also received a general info email from the daycare that day. Now if you drop off your kid every morning as a normal routine, then receive an email from the daycare center, at that point wouldn't something click if you had simply forgotten? This whole think stinks to high heaven, hopefully they find more on her if she was in cahoots and go after her too.
Only reason she would jump to that conclusion and search about hot car deaths is her husband had made the same mistake before but the kid survived the last incident. But if that had happened then the story would have come out by now, and the parents do not seem bright enough to fake this defense.
 
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bigbottom said:
krista4 said:
Sorry to the detour on insurance, which as I pointed out I didn't find damning.

One thing I don't understand is that they seem to be simultaneously arguing that this is, as someone mentioned, a "Scott Peterson" type case where the guy wanted to ditch his wife and kid, but at the same time they had testimony that the wife said "You didn't say too much, did you", implying she might be in on it as well (along with the searches she had done as previously reported). I guess the answer at this point is just that the prosecutors don't have to prove a motive and are just throwing out anything that might look damning? I can't get much read on what the chances are she was involved, too.
Yeah, it sounds like she may have been in on it. I'm seriously praying that there's a reasonable explanation for all of the evidence being discussed. Because it would really suck to live in a world where this kind of unspeakable evil exists.
The police definitely noticed something suspicion before they investigated the family.

 
MC Gas Money said:
The Commish said:
krista4 said:
Why the hell would anyone have life insurance on a two-year-old??
Both my kids are covered. They are 6 and 2 :oldunsure:
Idk why people think its odd to have health insurance on their small childten. Its wise to have it for every family member. Its not just that funerals are expensive but there could also be substantial medical bills if the death follows a prolonged illness
Life and health are two different things.
 
MC Gas Money said:
The Commish said:
krista4 said:
Why the hell would anyone have life insurance on a two-year-old??
Both my kids are covered. They are 6 and 2 :oldunsure:
Idk why people think its odd to have health insurance on their small childten. Its wise to have it for every family member. Its not just that funerals are expensive but there could also be substantial medical bills if the death follows a prolonged illness
Life and health are two different things.
Well the part of the life insurance you don't use on the funeral you may just use to pay things like a large deductible. Or costs that weren't covered. Maybe your mortgage because you used up your vacation and were on unpaid leave. Just to mention a few things.

 
↑ someone saif earlier that it was much less expensive to insure children
How many children do you insure?
Insurance through my work offers $10K child policy for about 10 cents per paycheck. I insure both of my kids.
My workplace automatically ensures any child that you have on the company healthcare plan for free. So I have insurance on my son that lives with his mother. I did nothing, nor paid anything, for the policy other than list him as a dependent for medical insurance purposes.
My company takes out life insurance on me and they collect if I croak.

 
↑ someone saif earlier that it was much less expensive to insure children
How many children do you insure?
Insurance through my work offers $10K child policy for about 10 cents per paycheck. I insure both of my kids.
My workplace automatically ensures any child that you have on the company healthcare plan for free. So I have insurance on my son that lives with his mother. I did nothing, nor paid anything, for the policy other than list him as a dependent for medical insurance purposes.
My company takes out life insurance on me and they collect if I croak.
Is that key man insurance?

 
This guy needs to fry. I watched yesterday and he is guilty as hell. It was 30 seconds from chickfilet to make the turn toward the daycare. You forgot about your kid after strapping him in his car seat 30 seconds later??!! He's shown to go to his car in the afternoon to put something in there, cops say that there was a strong stench in the car--- I mean there's a ton of things that point that way but then again, it will probably be a Casey Anthony case where he will walk.

I couldn't get over the wife's reaction in court, I mean lack of. No emotion. She was heard asking him if he talked too much. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a group effort. And to boot, he was checking out websites about being childless. Just sounds like they wanted out of being parents.

The defense lawyer yesterday when questioning the cop couldn't get anything to help his case. It was funny.

I hope he gets his for killing his child, even if it happens to be an accident which I can't see it being one.
He first forgot to turn at the traffic light to drive to the daycare center. Then he forgot about his son. If it's truely an accident, he probably was in a hurry to start his day of sexting.
 
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↑ someone saif earlier that it was much less expensive to insure children
How many children do you insure?
Insurance through my work offers $10K child policy for about 10 cents per paycheck. I insure both of my kids.
My workplace automatically ensures any child that you have on the company healthcare plan for free. So I have insurance on my son that lives with his mother. I did nothing, nor paid anything, for the policy other than list him as a dependent for medical insurance purposes.
My company takes out life insurance on me and they collect if I croak.
Is that key man insurance?
I forgot what they call it. The part that I don't fully understand is they get to collect on the policy even if I leave the company. Do I need to worry? :oldunsure:

 
↑ someone saif earlier that it was much less expensive to insure children
How many children do you insure?
Insurance through my work offers $10K child policy for about 10 cents per paycheck. I insure both of my kids.
My workplace automatically ensures any child that you have on the company healthcare plan for free. So I have insurance on my son that lives with his mother. I did nothing, nor paid anything, for the policy other than list him as a dependent for medical insurance purposes.
My company takes out life insurance on me and they collect if I croak.
Is that key man insurance?
I forgot what they call it. The part that I don't fully understand is they get to collect on the policy even if I leave the company. Do I need to worry? :oldunsure:
That does seem odd. What reason did they give for taking out the policy? You usually only see that with people who have ownership stakes or are the inventor of what they sell, something like that.

 
↑ someone saif earlier that it was much less expensive to insure children
How many children do you insure?
Insurance through my work offers $10K child policy for about 10 cents per paycheck. I insure both of my kids.
My workplace automatically ensures any child that you have on the company healthcare plan for free. So I have insurance on my son that lives with his mother. I did nothing, nor paid anything, for the policy other than list him as a dependent for medical insurance purposes.
My company takes out life insurance on me and they collect if I croak.
Is that key man insurance?
I forgot what they call it. The part that I don't fully understand is they get to collect on the policy even if I leave the company. Do I need to worry? :oldunsure:
That does seem odd. What reason did they give for taking out the policy? You usually only see that with people who have ownership stakes or are the inventor of what they sell, something like that.
I'm just a regular, disposable employee. I received a confidential mail from the company explaining that it is legal and I have option to sign up or not. The consent form said the face amount of the policy will not exceed $7.5 mil.

 
↑ someone saif earlier that it was much less expensive to insure children
How many children do you insure?
Insurance through my work offers $10K child policy for about 10 cents per paycheck. I insure both of my kids.
My workplace automatically ensures any child that you have on the company healthcare plan for free. So I have insurance on my son that lives with his mother. I did nothing, nor paid anything, for the policy other than list him as a dependent for medical insurance purposes.
My company takes out life insurance on me and they collect if I croak.
Is that key man insurance?
I forgot what they call it. The part that I don't fully understand is they get to collect on the policy even if I leave the company. Do I need to worry? :oldunsure:
That does seem odd. What reason did they give for taking out the policy? You usually only see that with people who have ownership stakes or are the inventor of what they sell, something like that.
I'm just a regular, disposable employee. I received a confidential mail from the company explaining that it is legal and I have option to sign up or not. The consent form said the face amount of the policy will not exceed $7.5 mil.
I wouldn't sign up for that. If anyone is going to get paid for plotting my death it will be my wife as nature intended.

 
This guy needs to fry. I watched yesterday and he is guilty as hell. It was 30 seconds from chickfilet to make the turn toward the daycare. You forgot about your kid after strapping him in his car seat 30 seconds later??!! He's shown to go to his car in the afternoon to put something in there, cops say that there was a strong stench in the car--- I mean there's a ton of things that point that way but then again, it will probably be a Casey Anthony case where he will walk.

I couldn't get over the wife's reaction in court, I mean lack of. No emotion. She was heard asking him if he talked too much. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a group effort. And to boot, he was checking out websites about being childless. Just sounds like they wanted out of being parents.

The defense lawyer yesterday when questioning the cop couldn't get anything to help his case. It was funny.

I hope he gets his for killing his child, even if it happens to be an accident which I can't see it being one.
He first forgot to turn at the traffic light to drive to the daycare center. Then he forgot about his son. If it's truely an accident, he probably was in a hurry to start his day of sexting.
Ah yes, let us not forget his priorities. Seems he spend a decent amount at work taking care of his other business. That probably won't be admitted in the trial, but the other stuff should.

 

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